Still love my Trash Panda after a few thousand rounds. I am still on the fence as to whether or not buy the Erector 9 as I have seen complaints of POI shift. I guess what we need is a 9 with tapers....
Not because its 3d printed. Because its flow through. Depends on what you want. Flow through is louder down range, flash more, heat up faster, stay hot longer, and absolutely glow under nods and thermals
I think the biggest problem q has with the hux is printing the whole can and not just the baffles. Makes it a lot more expensive and not better in anyway. Flow through is another topic but generally unless you’re an agency where you’re not tuning a gun for it and shoot a lot where health is a concern, a standard can will do generally do the flash and sound suppression better. I believe q new 556 is a printed core that’s a little flow through but not as much as others to keep flash and sound down. I only worry about titanium baffles like to spark.
So I’m assuming if you don’t want to eat gas get the HUX or don’t want to tune your gun? But a standard can eat more gas and probably have to tune the gun?
Question- you mentioned that 3D printed silencers have to be all one material in order for it to be 3D printed. But, Dead Air Silencers used titanium, aluminum, and stainless steel. Would anyone in this thread mind educating me on this?
Question that has nothing to do with this video: What happens when you rifle a 12 gauge slug with a 1:3-6 twist rate? Does it hold together? Does it stabilize and improve accuracy? Is it too powerful a round for the slug to twist that fast? What about mini slugs?
Look up how to calculate a bullets RPM. Muzzle velocity x 720 / barrel twist rate = bullet rpm Typical lead core bullets start spinning apart around 300k rpm. A lead slug will spin apart and a much lower RPM than your average copper jacketed bullet.
@kirkmartin2223 Okay...so what if you heat treat the lead? Probably not...going to need a different material...I'm going to go ask KnifeSteelNerds if he knows of a steel that isn't super rare or expensive that can withstand the RPMs...
@@IvIidnightsolid copper slug. No need for steel, though any steel would survive it. The issue with normal bullets isn't the lead coming apart, it's the jacket separating from the lead core due to the high centrifugal forces. Solid lead would likely survive just fine as well.
Question for Q‼️I recently had a baffle strike to my trash panda. The silencer flew 15 feet outwards with a spark in the can when hitting the ground. Do I send it back to you guys for repair or the gun store I bought it at?
Tubeless means the baffles are stacked together and welded one by one forming the walls of the suppressor. Before KB it was a tube acting as a sleeve with the baffles stacked inside. You lose a lot of volume with the latter…
@@taylorkunz9360 hey not necessarily true lol, here in Maryland they're legal. 30rd mags aren't though among other BS.. Silencer legality doesn't mean the state doesn't still suck ass lmao
CAT is pretty clear about their warranty, they aint gonna replace your shit. Idk about cgs. But neither can be easily repaired, downside of 3d printing
They can repair 3D printed cans. The serialized part is right by the threads. They just chop it off and print on a new section. That said, my Alleycat is awesome. It sounds like a Polonium but with way less backpressure. No issues with alignment or strikes. Would highly recommend one, they are spendy and more difficult to find in stock. But they are worth it.
@brent92888 are you sure? I've never got into 3d printing, but isn't it one peice and can't be printed on a new substrate? So if you put a hole in your can, you can't repair it? I may be wrong, but just overheard that 3d cans can't be repaired so your sol if you get a baffle strike.
@mattself6078 Maybe it depends on the brand. 100% CGS and CAT silencers can be repaired. The serialized part is right next to the threads. If there is any damage they just chop it off and reprint the damaged portion back on top.
I'm assuming it's a welded baffle stack without an outer tube. Instead of a monocore in a tube or a baffle stack that slides into a tube( each baffle not welded to each other), now the tubed suppressors are usually easier to maintain, clean and take down. I do like the added volume without making a bigger can on the tubeless design.
@@sauce6092 How does Q get away with all these stupid names for guns and silencers making people sound stupid having to repeat them? For that reason alone, I refuse to buy any of their stuff!
I don't mind the names. I stopped buying their suppressors when they tool away the suppressor mounts from the whole package. The cherry bombs made them both a great system and a great deal. Then, they stopped the PVD coating and started selling flip flops, and that was pretty much it for me.
The right thing to do is to finally get silencers off the NFA. Along with SBRs. Or, just delete the NFA entirely, and abolish the ineffective and redundant BAFTE.
I can't wait for the (if they stick with the name) southpaw nd leftie to come out. Want to see how it compares to the aac m4-2000 nd the hub version of it. A no nonsense, no bs, head to head comparison.
I bought a .300 blk honeybadger from my local shop for 3 friggin grand and it doesn't cycle... supers or subs.. it's a total lemon.. Y Q? Y? It's the last Q product I'll ever buy. Too busy making their stuff look gucci instead of making sure it actually works. Then I stumble upon a video of this dude who acts like a know it all cocky prick.. build a gun that works bud.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 Reddit and youtube is crawling with people who have the same issue as me. Doesn't cycle. Not a single video or writeup online about setting headspace. maybe YOU should address it as it's YOUR product instead of blaming customers for buying guns from you that don't work.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 SN AD0778. Dover NH. I'd send it in for repair but based on the way you carry yourself my bet is you'd probably just keep it. I'd rather have my gunsmith fix it.. He makes good money fixing overpriced gucci paperweights like Q and Christensen, companies who seem to care more about looks and marketing than putting out quality products and customer service.
Sup Kevin! Wanted to let you know that pee is stored in the balls
Still love my Trash Panda after a few thousand rounds. I am still on the fence as to whether or not buy the Erector 9 as I have seen complaints of POI shift. I guess what we need is a 9 with tapers....
The erector 9 can have tapers if you use the quickie mount and a cherry bomb on a rifle.
I will tell you I have two erectors and they are my favorite can.
So is the HUXWURX Flow a bad suppressor since it’s 3D printed?
Not because its 3d printed. Because its flow through. Depends on what you want. Flow through is louder down range, flash more, heat up faster, stay hot longer, and absolutely glow under nods and thermals
I think the biggest problem q has with the hux is printing the whole can and not just the baffles. Makes it a lot more expensive and not better in anyway. Flow through is another topic but generally unless you’re an agency where you’re not tuning a gun for it and shoot a lot where health is a concern, a standard can will do generally do the flash and sound suppression better. I believe q new 556 is a printed core that’s a little flow through but not as much as others to keep flash and sound down. I only worry about titanium baffles like to spark.
So I’m assuming if you don’t want to eat gas get the HUX or don’t want to tune your gun? But a standard can eat more gas and probably have to tune the gun?
@900Redshark just depends on the gun really. Never touched a thing on my Super Duty. Other guns have adjustable gas blocks or BCGs.
Do tubeless heat up faster though? Flow throughs absolutely suck for nods and thermal use. Would tubeless be the same?
Question- you mentioned that 3D printed silencers have to be all one material in order for it to be 3D printed. But, Dead Air Silencers used titanium, aluminum, and stainless steel. Would anyone in this thread mind educating me on this?
so does this mean the south paw is available this year
Yeah right! I wish! Lol
@ I mean once the boombox started surfacing the web it became available soon after. So fingers crossed we’ll see the southpaw within q1 of 25
@rytacarms I really want it to be true, but We know Kevin lol
@ let’s give him a bit more time, now the lefty is probably the one we won’t be seeing for a while.
@@rytacarms hahahahaha 😆
Holy shit this is the most logical and non combative i think Kevin has ever been in a Why Q episode. 😂
Still waiting for the "wet" over barrel design, cools and quiets.
Question that has nothing to do with this video: What happens when you rifle a 12 gauge slug with a 1:3-6 twist rate? Does it hold together? Does it stabilize and improve accuracy? Is it too powerful a round for the slug to twist that fast? What about mini slugs?
Look up how to calculate a bullets RPM.
Muzzle velocity x 720 / barrel twist rate = bullet rpm
Typical lead core bullets start spinning apart around 300k rpm. A lead slug will spin apart and a much lower RPM than your average copper jacketed bullet.
@kirkmartin2223 Okay...so what if you heat treat the lead? Probably not...going to need a different material...I'm going to go ask KnifeSteelNerds if he knows of a steel that isn't super rare or expensive that can withstand the RPMs...
@kirkmartin2223 (Also, if you actually want someone to look something up, don't put the answer right below...😂😂😂)
@@IvIidnightsolid copper slug. No need for steel, though any steel would survive it. The issue with normal bullets isn't the lead coming apart, it's the jacket separating from the lead core due to the high centrifugal forces. Solid lead would likely survive just fine as well.
Question for Q‼️I recently had a baffle strike to my trash panda. The silencer flew 15 feet outwards with a spark in the can when hitting the ground. Do I send it back to you guys for repair or the gun store I bought it at?
That sounds like "customer service" You know Q don't do no stinkin' customer service!
Cant believe my piece of metal is still in jail 😂
Best of luck approved in 5 days yesterday
@@Alexonthetube same, 5 days after certifying I got my approval.
Aren't all silencers basically tubes with baffles??
Tubeless means the baffles are stacked together and welded one by one forming the walls of the suppressor. Before KB it was a tube acting as a sleeve with the baffles stacked inside. You lose a lot of volume with the latter…
Cool, thx
Love these videos! Happy Thanksgiving!
1:33 gas expansion louder than the bullet breaking the sound barrier? Someone call Jay @ PS, we need this corroborated.
It would be interesting to see what Q could do for a shotgun silencer
Genesis arms owns that feild with the gen 12 sbs 5 inch shot gun. Pdf with a silencer
Are silencers legal?
If your state doesn’t suck.
@@taylorkunz9360 swoosh!
@@taylorkunz9360 hey not necessarily true lol, here in Maryland they're legal. 30rd mags aren't though among other BS.. Silencer legality doesn't mean the state doesn't still suck ass lmao
-Purple weld guy.
So hows the q erector's sound reduction? Im used to the sound reduction of otter creek labs polonium 30 and the 556 version..
The q erector is modular, its loud and quiet, and not comparable to a rifle can
thers is no erector rifle can
I’m still running an Sig 556 QRD. Maybe one day Q will make a 5.56 can…
They did. Just gave one away for the mystery shirt I believe. I reckon coming to the public soon.
The southpaw nd the leftie I believe what they are making. Both dedicated 556 suppressor.
I'm ready for one also.. my 556 honey badger is ready for one
@@EthanFoster-zq7fo is this ethan from q?
@@jeremyfigueroa1683 no
Does the porq chop handle high pressure rounds like 300 win mag or 338 lapua ?
Hmmm. If only there was a way to “show” us what he is talking about…maybe markers and white cards…
Suppressors are literally just mufflers, they have seen around for over a hundred years. they are VERY basic technology.
so this means the baffles are non removable??
Yes the baffles are nonremovable, most rifle cans have baffles that are non removable
Buy it for Q looks, buy it for Q Life. Way better than Moen.
Wooooo ❤
Has anyone had an end cap strike with a CGS or CAT 3d printed can? Do you have to pay for a new can basically if that happens? Just curious.....
CAT is pretty clear about their warranty, they aint gonna replace your shit. Idk about cgs. But neither can be easily repaired, downside of 3d printing
They can repair 3D printed cans. The serialized part is right by the threads. They just chop it off and print on a new section. That said, my Alleycat is awesome. It sounds like a Polonium but with way less backpressure. No issues with alignment or strikes. Would highly recommend one, they are spendy and more difficult to find in stock. But they are worth it.
B&T they stand by there 3d products
@brent92888 are you sure? I've never got into 3d printing, but isn't it one peice and can't be printed on a new substrate? So if you put a hole in your can, you can't repair it? I may be wrong, but just overheard that 3d cans can't be repaired so your sol if you get a baffle strike.
@mattself6078 Maybe it depends on the brand. 100% CGS and CAT silencers can be repaired. The serialized part is right next to the threads. If there is any damage they just chop it off and reprint the damaged portion back on top.
Tubeless is only better because it’s how you make it and what you sell.
They all work and the differences are minimal
4+ minutes of talking about a tube with baffles and calling it tubeless... I'm still lost.
I'm assuming it's a welded baffle stack without an outer tube. Instead of a monocore in a tube or a baffle stack that slides into a tube( each baffle not welded to each other), now the tubed suppressors are usually easier to maintain, clean and take down.
I do like the added volume without making a bigger can on the tubeless design.
ummm yeah same
You’re still lost because you don’t listen.
@@SkidGear423 sorry, my ears are tubeless.
Picture welding the baffles together and not using the tube...Hope that helped
Are we going to get a steel Thunder Chicken?
i need one for 6.5 creedmoor plz
Check out the jumbo shrimp
@@sauce6092 How does Q get away with all these stupid names for guns and silencers making people sound stupid having to repeat them? For that reason alone, I refuse to buy any of their stuff!
I don't mind the names. I stopped buying their suppressors when they tool away the suppressor mounts from the whole package. The cherry bombs made them both a great system and a great deal. Then, they stopped the PVD coating and started selling flip flops, and that was pretty much it for me.
YQ? 22lr fix
Id be in
In b4 Kevin drops a 1.93" tubeless flow-through can.
The right thing to do is to finally get silencers off the NFA. Along with SBRs.
Or, just delete the NFA entirely, and abolish the ineffective and redundant BAFTE.
Love my Honey Badger suppressor !!! And it’s 2024 , not 2014 . 😂
The format of your videos can make almost any subject seems stupid
Q everything. 💯
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I can't wait for the (if they stick with the name) southpaw nd leftie to come out. Want to see how it compares to the aac m4-2000 nd the hub version of it. A no nonsense, no bs, head to head comparison.
I bought a .300 blk honeybadger from my local shop for 3 friggin grand and it doesn't cycle... supers or subs.. it's a total lemon.. Y Q? Y? It's the last Q product I'll ever buy. Too busy making their stuff look gucci instead of making sure it actually works. Then I stumble upon a video of this dude who acts like a know it all cocky prick.. build a gun that works bud.
User headspace. The HB is the most reliable pdw ever produced. Get someone to show you how the HB works.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 Reddit and youtube is crawling with people who have the same issue as me. Doesn't cycle. Not a single video or writeup online about setting headspace. maybe YOU should address it as it's YOUR product instead of blaming customers for buying guns from you that don't work.
@@adamharris7300 sure buddy. RMA your gun, if you actually own one, and we will do a video on what’s wrong with it and post it.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 SN AD0778. Dover NH. I'd send it in for repair but based on the way you carry yourself my bet is you'd probably just keep it. I'd rather have my gunsmith fix it.. He makes good money fixing overpriced gucci paperweights like Q and Christensen, companies who seem to care more about looks and marketing than putting out quality products and customer service.
@ shocker. Merry Christmas!
Getting my Thunder Chick today took 9 days to approve cmon
I need that shirt KB
Left hand.🫲 update?