Re: the just intonation issue - the first couple tracks in this video were in JI, which makes the last pad, in equal temperament, "out of tune" with those plucked partials. There's nothing wrong with that, of course, but it would have been cool to hear the whole thing in the same temperament. I also think it's worth it for anyone to memorize the first 16 partials of the overtone series, and their cent deviation from equal temperament. There's really only 10 pitch classes to remember, since partial 1 ("root") repeats at 2, 4, 8, and 16; and p2 ("the fifth") repeats at 3, 6 and 12; p5 ("major third") repeats at 10; and 7 ("minor 7th") repeats at 14. Once you get tuned in to a perfectly intonated major or dominant chord, it's really hard not to hear the "standard" equal tempered version as being out of tune. Bitwig gives so many options to mess with intonation, and if you're mostly staying in one key, you don't really run into the problems usually associated with just intonations. There are lots of interesting harmonies further up the overtone series - particularly among prime numbers. If the pitch starts getting too high, just raise the denominator in the ratio. (A denominator of 2 is one octave lower, 4 is two octaves lower, 8 is three octaves lower, etc.). I'm sure you're aware of all this, just expanding on some of the ideas in the video.
I had not expected such a rich and interesting sound from this setup. Thank you for sharing; it’s super inspiring and satisfying to see you operate the grid this fluently!
As always really nice! Question, at around 12:40, even when you are not playing, the spectral shows a lot of high freq noise. Is this aliasing noise? Because that is my biggest worry with the grid, in order for all these pieces to work, you would need oversampling to suppress all the aliasing, and while not an issue with a single generator, you'd expect this issue to add up with many, such as you are doing here.
When you’re in the grid here I’m wondering if you can use voice stack modulators and just go with a single unison sine oscillator in the grid… I’m suspecting it’s more processor efficient. It is in realtor at least
Re: the just intonation issue - the first couple tracks in this video were in JI, which makes the last pad, in equal temperament, "out of tune" with those plucked partials. There's nothing wrong with that, of course, but it would have been cool to hear the whole thing in the same temperament.
I also think it's worth it for anyone to memorize the first 16 partials of the overtone series, and their cent deviation from equal temperament. There's really only 10 pitch classes to remember, since partial 1 ("root") repeats at 2, 4, 8, and 16; and p2 ("the fifth") repeats at 3, 6 and 12; p5 ("major third") repeats at 10; and 7 ("minor 7th") repeats at 14. Once you get tuned in to a perfectly intonated major or dominant chord, it's really hard not to hear the "standard" equal tempered version as being out of tune. Bitwig gives so many options to mess with intonation, and if you're mostly staying in one key, you don't really run into the problems usually associated with just intonations.
There are lots of interesting harmonies further up the overtone series - particularly among prime numbers. If the pitch starts getting too high, just raise the denominator in the ratio. (A denominator of 2 is one octave lower, 4 is two octaves lower, 8 is three octaves lower, etc.). I'm sure you're aware of all this, just expanding on some of the ideas in the video.
I had not expected such a rich and interesting sound from
this setup. Thank you for sharing; it’s super inspiring and satisfying to see you operate the grid this fluently!
Absolutely golden again!
Maybe there's something wrong with me, but I love the sound of switching the ratio like in 21:55.
The bitwig grandmaster...
So this is so cool amazing sounds from the Bitwig guru, thanks alot for this tutorial cheers !
Tangerine Dream style ,very well,very interesting ;from Treviso Italy Cattarin Luciano
I learn so much from your videos - thanks!
partials are blessed* - me, a fan of additive synthesis :D
As always really nice! Question, at around 12:40, even when you are not playing, the spectral shows a lot of high freq noise. Is this aliasing noise? Because that is my biggest worry with the grid, in order for all these pieces to work, you would need oversampling to suppress all the aliasing, and while not an issue with a single generator, you'd expect this issue to add up with many, such as you are doing here.
Very cool Robert!
Great Video!
Amazing can't wait to try myself! That pad sounds a bit like boards of Canada
Thumbs up in the first 5 seconds.
When you’re in the grid here I’m wondering if you can use voice stack modulators and just go with a single unison sine oscillator in the grid… I’m suspecting it’s more processor efficient. It is in realtor at least
yea thats also a way. not sure if its less intesive on the cpu, but also cool way
20:15 EPIC bladerunner moment i soyfaced irl 👍
Thank you. How would one do this without Serum, using BW stock devices ?
not possible really. but you could bounce longer wav files as wavetables. but its not so easy and straight forward as in the serum editor
Vital also has a wavetable editor but I don’t know if you can export as wav from there easily. At least Vital is free.