Really like how you showed off how fast you can run a pump. Pump Actions are still plenty capable and still are excellent home defense options. Keeps Paul Harrell's teachings alove.
Dude great video. As a smaller channel myself I only watch other small channels because they have better content and this video proves that point. I have several of each type and cant really say that i prefer one over the other hands down but every in the world knows that unmistakable click sound. Just subbed. Keepmit up
I have both and like both, however all weapons can jam and it's been my experiance that a pump is generally easier to clear than a semi. Also in the rare chance you have a failure to fire with a semi you have to take one hand off the weapon and manipulate the charging handle/bolt., with a pump it's just another stroke. These are just my observations, not judgments, nor gospels. Thanks for the infomative video!
@@cgrable8342 you’re right about that, but it’s no different than clearing a FTF on an AR. Plus, some malfunctions with a pump do require two hands, like when you get a double feed onto the lifter. Maybe I’ll do a video about malfunctions… hmmm…
Having both is best, I love my Remington 870 Express Tactical Magpul, and I also love my Benelli M4 H20, there is no reason to not have both as options for the woods, home defense, or hunting.
Hey, you never mentioned you had a UA-cam channel. I used to be range staff at the Lakewood location you trained at (I left during Covid). Great video, I hope you to see more!
I started doing shotgun classes with a Mossberg 590 pump 20 gauge ($500), because the 12 gauge recoil was a bit much (60 yr old weaker man). Now they make a 12 gauge 590s which does shorties. Federal buckshot shorties inside of house distances are good and recoil is less and capacity is more. However, I tried a semi-auto 12 gauge MAC 1014 clone of a Benelli M4 instead ($400). The recoil was very reduced, and I shot 230 high velocity buckshot and slugs in a single setting with 0 failures or shoulder pain. I am very impressed with the semi-auto 12 gauge platform in terms of recoil reduction. Not everyone can afford a 2k 1301, nor do I think they have to, especially now that the M4 gas system patent expired. I think of the semi-auto platform as an alternative platform allowing me to shoot full power defensive loads without the pain!
I think he’s trying to say, according to other reviews, the A300 performs basically the same as the 1300 for 6-700 dollar less. The maverick 88 is the Honda civic of shotguns. It’s the smartest investment in firearms. Great review sir. Love your channel.
Got a pump for my first one. Benelli Supernova, and it wasnt the right gun for me. I rarely shot it, so eventually sold it. Got a Beretta A300 UP, love the thing. Regularly train with it, and it's my designated HD gun. If you like shooting it, you will simply want to train with it more.
I have both, i prefer semi auto, i too have the 1301 and an M4 , for my wife and kids the semi auto is easy because of a stressfull situation all though we do practice with pumps also.. 1301 tried and tru for me..i love it
I have had good luck with the Esstac cards and crap luck with all the cheaper ones. If you get a chance, check out the Buck Kicker choke for the 1301. It is not for use with slugs, but it really tightens up Buck and Bird shot groups. I had a 500 for years and my eldest son had the 88 for about the same time. The 88 is great on a budget, but the 500 is available with ghost ring sights.
@@brianclevenger5521 yeah the Esstac ones are pretty much the best, but even then I’ve had shells fall out if I’m running the gun really hard. I’ll check out that choke. Thanks!
@@RicoMags-j5u pump guns rarely fail. Also, I haven’t cleaned or lubed my 1301 in probably 600 rounds. It cycles like a sewing machine. If SHTF, I’ll grab it cause it lives next to me
Maverick 88 is really something you can't beat for the price. It's going to go bang. In my state you have to be 18 for a shotgun and 21 for handgun or rifle, so for a broke 18 year old an 88 is really a fantastic home self defense option.
I do have my 870 cruiser ready 1 in the pipe and 7 in the tube safety on but I do prefer my two 1100's with their 11 shot capacity at the ready and safety on !!! So I guess I'm a big time vintage Remington fanboy !!!
@@jeffreyelliott622 I don’t recommend storing a shotgun with one in the pipe, but as long as your gun doesn’t get moved around, it should be just fine. Cruiser ready is a full mag tube, but nothing in the pipe. On an auto, you can “ghost load” one on top of the lifter.
I would say at least 500 for a shotgun at close range, but the more the better. What really matters is lumens in conjunction with candela. I run a Surefire M640DF on the end of my home defense shotgun.
3 types of people like pumps. 1: the manual transmission car driver. 2: the never cleans a gun person. 3: the I have other financial priorities person.
I understand that, but I teach people with all different backgrounds and financial situations. I don't believe the right thing to tell a single mother who lives in the ghetto and just got a fresh protection order against her baby daddy is "just save up and buy this $2000 gun because it's better". Like I said, some people can only afford the $250 pumper.
Good video but one thing about me and what I talk about is “tachticool”. So for lights on a firearm, you shouldn’t need one. The best defense is to deter a home invasion. All windows and doors are locked at night, blinds closed, and just keep exterior lights on. As far as inside for light, keep one light on downstairs at night. A light that is in a central part of your downstairs. It’s another deterrent and will provide you with a lit downstairs. Never keep your house or property in darkness. That’s the house I’d go for if I were a criminal 😎👍🏽
@@kineticenergy1085 as a guy that kicked a lot of doors, I have to disagree. Being able to positively identify something or someone in the dark, regardless of ambient lighting is paramount. Every defensive firearm needs a light, full stop.
@ your video wasn’t about being a door kicker in Iraq. Too many combat veterans bringing combat in war into the civilian world and isn’t actual or practical. Hats off to you if you are a combat vet, as I wasn’t. I’m a marine and went through SOI, but not a combat vet. In the civilian world, we will never be in such a situation that’s why i make vids on practical actual possible civilian encounters where you are in your house and can lock your doors keep light on and know your surroundings. A light on your gun is not full stop. If that light is “full stop” to you…… you aren’t improvising or adapting to your surroundings or properly trained.
@kineticenergy1085 why wouldn’t you want a light on your gun to PID possible threats? Please explain why police, military, and everyone else has a light on their gun. I’m sure you were issued a light on your rifle if you were infantry. Tell me why everyone doing this professionally is wrong.
@ because they are taking about combat situations where your surroundings, entry point, and threats are all unknown. Again, civilian situations will never compare to some SWAT team, or combat situation. YOU know your house, surroundings, neighborhood, neighbors, etc. if you want to teach civilians, teach practical civilian situations. Don’t get civilians, confused with military operations and combat situations. They are not going to understand and they will prepare for things and add accessories that don’t matter, add weight, and require more muscle memory. Your video was about home defense, not kicking doors in Somalia looking for Bin Ladin. Teach what you know to military, not civis. And you have a heavy focus on this light. Now, you are in a combat situation and your light malfunctions….. how do you negotiate this fight now? 💁🏽♂️ the light is not full stop
Man… you have a HUGE disconnect from the reality of home defense. Obviously you have never trained for HD, or have taken serious HD classes. On top of that, you don’t have any real world experience. Leave this stuff to the professionals, and please stop telling people lights on firearms are superfluous. You’re doing a disservice to your fellow man. Go get some good training and change your mind.
If you use either one of those Shotguns and something happens most of the time the police are going to keep that Gun. Do you want to give them a gun that costs Thousands or $200/$300? I use the Maverick 88 for my home defense.
@@johnbrandonberg4257 that is a good way of looking at it and makes a lot of sense. The way I see it is, I want the best I can afford to protect my family. I can afford it, so I’m gonna use it. Sometimes I grab the 870 or the 88 when I’m out back and need a gun I can throw in the truck though. They all have their purposes!
I couldn't imagine spending almost 2K on a shotgun. Not saying anything's wrong with what you did. I just personally could never spend that kind of money.
The 1301 has rightfully stole the market in HD style semi autos. Then they released their own competition for the 1301 with the A300 series. I run a pump for hunting and sports shooting and while I’m quite fast and maybe even as fast in terms of accurate shots on target, I still have a 1301 as the bedside gun because others in the household can use it efficiently and not so much the pumps. Plus it’s just an awesome gun
A pump is all you really need. You don’t need a $2,000 shotgun for home defense. Is it cool? Hell yeah! Should you be able to own one because of your 2A rights? Absolutely! But do you really need an expensive semi-auto? Get yourself a $250 Mossberg Maverick 88, save the rest for ammo and training, and call it a day.
You say 'uh' and 'um' seemingly every other word. Not trying to be a dk, just a constructive criticism, especially because I really enjoyed the rest of the video. Your information & presentation are great. I would just suggest dropping the uh umming. You would never idly point your gun at someone on the range right? So just think of uh umming as verbal flagging. And then you will notice it all the time & never do it again. Ha! Again not trying to be a hater. Quite the opposite. Just a helper. And far from perfect myself. Anyway cheers. Good video.
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Really like how you showed off how fast you can run a pump. Pump Actions are still plenty capable and still are excellent home defense options. Keeps Paul Harrell's teachings alove.
RIP Paul!
Maverick 88s are awesome 😎
@@ricardogoodman1750 yeah I love that thing. It’s cheap and is a workhorse!
I sold mine cuz in 25 rounds the firing pin failed twice. And not from short stroke.
You need both. Simplest answer ever.
@@hughchen9683 this is the way
@@BlackRingTactical this is the way
Dude great video. As a smaller channel myself I only watch other small channels because they have better content and this video proves that point. I have several of each type and cant really say that i prefer one over the other hands down but every in the world knows that unmistakable click sound. Just subbed. Keepmit up
@@MedicUp2024 thank you!! I watched a couple of your videos and gave you a sub. Great job
@blackringtactical9682 thanks. Keep your videos coming
In the market for a semi auto to pair up with my 870. My mindset has been why not have both readily available.
@@Hebets_Arts you should have both. This is America, after all!
@ damn straight!!🇺🇸🔫🤘🏼
I think the usually 2k true M1014 civilian issue is on sale for like 1600 on PSA, at least it was last night
After intensive searching & reviews, i got the Mossberg 940 pro. Flawless, perfect & only $1,000
@@88kaa65 awesome! Those are great guns.
Mine is a lemon and bought it used so no warranty. Buyer beware
I have both and like both, however all weapons can jam and it's been my experiance that a pump is generally easier to clear than a semi. Also in the rare chance you have a failure to fire with a semi you have to take one hand off the weapon and manipulate the charging handle/bolt., with a pump it's just another stroke. These are just my observations, not judgments, nor gospels. Thanks for the infomative video!
@@cgrable8342 you’re right about that, but it’s no different than clearing a FTF on an AR. Plus, some malfunctions with a pump do require two hands, like when you get a double feed onto the lifter. Maybe I’ll do a video about malfunctions… hmmm…
Having both is best, I love my Remington 870 Express Tactical Magpul, and I also love my Benelli M4 H20, there is no reason to not have both as options for the woods, home defense, or hunting.
@@offworlder1 exactly!
My home defense shotty is a Mav. 88, 12g, loaded with nmb. 4 buck. Ultra reliable!
@@TeamJesusOutdoors they don’t quit
@BlackRingTactical i trust it with my life
Hey, you never mentioned you had a UA-cam channel. I used to be range staff at the Lakewood location you trained at (I left during Covid). Great video, I hope you to see more!
Hey man it’s good to know you’re still around!
I started doing shotgun classes with a Mossberg 590 pump 20 gauge ($500), because the 12 gauge recoil was a bit much (60 yr old weaker man). Now they make a 12 gauge 590s which does shorties. Federal buckshot shorties inside of house distances are good and recoil is less and capacity is more. However, I tried a semi-auto 12 gauge MAC 1014 clone of a Benelli M4 instead ($400). The recoil was very reduced, and I shot 230 high velocity buckshot and slugs in a single setting with 0 failures or shoulder pain. I am very impressed with the semi-auto 12 gauge platform in terms of recoil reduction. Not everyone can afford a 2k 1301, nor do I think they have to, especially now that the M4 gas system patent expired. I think of the semi-auto platform as an alternative platform allowing me to shoot full power defensive loads without the pain!
Same here, 68 and loving my Mac 1014
😂 My SHTF shotgun is also a safe queen in my vault. A pump-action is my choice.
@@michaellee5960 how often do you train with it?
Just get a A300 Ultima Patrol and call it a day!
Send me money so I can buy one and compare the two!
I think he’s trying to say, according to other reviews, the A300 performs basically the same as the 1300 for 6-700 dollar less. The maverick 88 is the Honda civic of shotguns. It’s the smartest investment in firearms. Great review sir. Love your channel.
Got a pump for my first one. Benelli Supernova, and it wasnt the right gun for me. I rarely shot it, so eventually sold it. Got a Beretta A300 UP, love the thing. Regularly train with it, and it's my designated HD gun. If you like shooting it, you will simply want to train with it more.
@@DPham1 those Berettas are nice, aren’t they?
@BlackRingTactical very nice, my A300 is in storage right now and sorely missed
Awesome video! Been in the market for a new shotgun for a while. Just the info I needed! Thank you!🙏
@@randyholbrook9604 what are you gonna buy?
@ I’ve been leaning towards the Panzer M2.. but not sure if I just hold off for a bit and get the real thing.
I have both, i prefer semi auto, i too have the 1301 and an M4 , for my wife and kids the semi auto is easy because of a stressfull situation all though we do practice with pumps also.. 1301 tried and tru for me..i love it
Yeah the semi auto is definitely easier! It’s my preferred blaster, too.
I have had good luck with the Esstac cards and crap luck with all the cheaper ones. If you get a chance, check out the Buck Kicker choke for the 1301. It is not for use with slugs, but it really tightens up Buck and Bird shot groups.
I had a 500 for years and my eldest son had the 88 for about the same time. The 88 is great on a budget, but the 500 is available with ghost ring sights.
@@brianclevenger5521 yeah the Esstac ones are pretty much the best, but even then I’ve had shells fall out if I’m running the gun really hard. I’ll check out that choke. Thanks!
I already have both and still want more of both
@@Wumy1080 I know I want ALL the shotguns
It's the only way to fly!
Great video! Thank you for sharing the knowledge. What brand of ear protection are you using?
@@joejohnson3145 I have Sordins. I LOVE them.
Just found your channel, good stuff. Just subscribed, keep the videos coming!
@@bradthornton6953 thank you! I just got a new mic, so I plan on making a lot more
I need them both pump and semi auto
@@asimplepessimist8790 everyone does
That was a very informative video. I really want a semiauto, but they're so pricey.
@@gh0zt5 thank you! There are cheaper options out there that work very well compared to the 1301.
@@BlackRingTactical What are some less-expensive alternatives to the 1301 that you would recommend? Cheers.
keep up the good work 💪
@@jeremysnider7407 thank you! Have you shot my 1301 yet?
mosberg 590 a1. when shit hits the fan you need reliability!
@@RicoMags-j5u pump guns rarely fail. Also, I haven’t cleaned or lubed my 1301 in probably 600 rounds. It cycles like a sewing machine. If SHTF, I’ll grab it cause it lives next to me
Very informative.
@@1982PRODUCTIONS thank you!
I got the m4 but the mosberg 490 I think I would like to have also
That Travis is so dreamy
Awwww you’re so sweet!
Maverick 88 is really something you can't beat for the price. It's going to go bang. In my state you have to be 18 for a shotgun and 21 for handgun or rifle, so for a broke 18 year old an 88 is really a fantastic home self defense option.
@@tempest-523 this is EXACTLY the point of the video. Thank you!!
Yes of course😊
I need both just because they soO much fun.
@@carlrobinson8177 yes, yes you do!
Yes. The answer is yes.
I say get both and practice with both.
@@wizardofahhhs759 definitely
I do have my 870 cruiser ready 1 in the pipe and 7 in the tube safety on but I do prefer my two 1100's with their 11 shot capacity at the ready and safety on !!! So I guess I'm a big time vintage Remington fanboy !!!
@@jeffreyelliott622 I don’t recommend storing a shotgun with one in the pipe, but as long as your gun doesn’t get moved around, it should be just fine. Cruiser ready is a full mag tube, but nothing in the pipe. On an auto, you can “ghost load” one on top of the lifter.
Yea that's not cruiser ready
how many lumens should the weaponss light be?
I would say at least 500 for a shotgun at close range, but the more the better. What really matters is lumens in conjunction with candela. I run a Surefire M640DF on the end of my home defense shotgun.
@@BlackRingTactical k thanks man appreciate it ✌
Great vid
@@Todd-r6t thank you! I’m putting more up!
it's not that hard to change out the forearm on the mossberg maverick 88 I have 3 different ones
@@ernestohernandez66 I haven’t tried, but that’s good to know! Thank you!
Nice video!
@@CounterSurveillance thank you! Give me a subscribe, cause there’s lots more to come
@@BlackRingTacticalI already did💪🏾
Simple answer. No you don’t need an expensive gun for home defense!
@@bluebeastsrt not every problem needs to be solved with more money.
3 types of people like pumps. 1: the manual transmission car driver. 2: the never cleans a gun person. 3: the I have other financial priorities person.
@@CreationGrid yup pretty much
LOL you nailed every single point!!!
IT'S SAID THAT A SEMI AUTO SHOTGUN DO NOT LAST LONG BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH STRESS ON THE FIREARM.
@@EXPALIDOTIOUS HAVE YOU CHECKED OUT THE BLINK SYSTEM THAT THE 1301 RUNS ON?
Don't believe everything you hear, there is a lot of BS in the gun culture, do your research.
With modern shotguns and quality buckshot theres no reason not to use a semi auto. I do enjoy a good pump recreationally tho
@@Sunflowercowboy some people can’t afford a semi auto, or don’t want to spend that much
@@BlackRingTactical I'm with Clint smith on this. It's a life saving tool, I'm going to save up if I have to, to get what I want.
@@BlackRingTactical you do you, I personally believe my life is worth as much as I can save for the best tool I can get
@@BlackRingTactical I saved up because I felt I and my family are worth it
I understand that, but I teach people with all different backgrounds and financial situations. I don't believe the right thing to tell a single mother who lives in the ghetto and just got a fresh protection order against her baby daddy is "just save up and buy this $2000 gun because it's better". Like I said, some people can only afford the $250 pumper.
Why not both? Benelli M3, 2in1 solution ;)
🇦🇺😎👍Pump action shotguns & semiautomatic shotguns were banned in Australia in 1997 for the greater good , apparently .
@@bigtrev761 it’s for the best…….
I believe that’s because of the Port Arthur Massacre in Tasmania.
I'm sure you feel SO much safer...
Take your damn country back and stop complying with gun laws that the elite don’t abide by themselves!
👊
@@MossbergCorp 🤘🏻
@@MossbergCorp so can I get one of those new 940 Pro SPX guns to test, or nah?
Both, you need both! Duh!
@@kmrtnsn absolutely!!
yes
@@granitejeepc3651 yup
One will make you buy the other
Good video but one thing about me and what I talk about is “tachticool”. So for lights on a firearm, you shouldn’t need one. The best defense is to deter a home invasion. All windows and doors are locked at night, blinds closed, and just keep exterior lights on. As far as inside for light, keep one light on downstairs at night. A light that is in a central part of your downstairs. It’s another deterrent and will provide you with a lit downstairs. Never keep your house or property in darkness. That’s the house I’d go for if I were a criminal 😎👍🏽
@@kineticenergy1085 as a guy that kicked a lot of doors, I have to disagree. Being able to positively identify something or someone in the dark, regardless of ambient lighting is paramount. Every defensive firearm needs a light, full stop.
@ your video wasn’t about being a door kicker in Iraq. Too many combat veterans bringing combat in war into the civilian world and isn’t actual or practical. Hats off to you if you are a combat vet, as I wasn’t. I’m a marine and went through SOI, but not a combat vet. In the civilian world, we will never be in such a situation that’s why i make vids on practical actual possible civilian encounters where you are in your house and can lock your doors keep light on and know your surroundings. A light on your gun is not full stop. If that light is “full stop” to you…… you aren’t improvising or adapting to your surroundings or properly trained.
@kineticenergy1085 why wouldn’t you want a light on your gun to PID possible threats? Please explain why police, military, and everyone else has a light on their gun. I’m sure you were issued a light on your rifle if you were infantry. Tell me why everyone doing this professionally is wrong.
@ because they are taking about combat situations where your surroundings, entry point, and threats are all unknown. Again, civilian situations will never compare to some SWAT team, or combat situation. YOU know your house, surroundings, neighborhood, neighbors, etc. if you want to teach civilians, teach practical civilian situations. Don’t get civilians, confused with military operations and combat situations. They are not going to understand and they will prepare for things and add accessories that don’t matter, add weight, and require more muscle memory. Your video was about home defense, not kicking doors in Somalia looking for Bin Ladin. Teach what you know to military, not civis. And you have a heavy focus on this light. Now, you are in a combat situation and your light malfunctions….. how do you negotiate this fight now? 💁🏽♂️ the light is not full stop
Man… you have a HUGE disconnect from the reality of home defense. Obviously you have never trained for HD, or have taken serious HD classes. On top of that, you don’t have any real world experience. Leave this stuff to the professionals, and please stop telling people lights on firearms are superfluous. You’re doing a disservice to your fellow man. Go get some good training and change your mind.
If you use either one of those Shotguns and something happens most of the time the police are going to keep that Gun. Do you want to give them a gun that costs Thousands or $200/$300? I use the Maverick 88 for my home defense.
@@johnbrandonberg4257 that is a good way of looking at it and makes a lot of sense. The way I see it is, I want the best I can afford to protect my family. I can afford it, so I’m gonna use it. Sometimes I grab the 870 or the 88 when I’m out back and need a gun I can throw in the truck though. They all have their purposes!
The answer is .....yes
@@Juan-qq1rb absolutely
I use a fanny pack to hold my shells, keep 70 rounds in it
@@bobg3633 I also have a fanny pack for shells during class. I’m not gonna throw that on in the middle of the night though hahaha
I couldn't imagine spending almost 2K on a shotgun. Not saying anything's wrong with what you did. I just personally could never spend that kind of money.
@@LTCEZIO I’m sure you spend good money on stuff I never would. To each their own.
Do you need a pump or auto shotgun? The answer is Yes!
@@agent_smith... boffum
The 1301 has rightfully stole the market in HD style semi autos. Then they released their own competition for the 1301 with the A300 series.
I run a pump for hunting and sports shooting and while I’m quite fast and maybe even as fast in terms of accurate shots on target, I still have a 1301 as the bedside gun because others in the household can use it efficiently and not so much the pumps. Plus it’s just an awesome gun
A pump is all you really need. You don’t need a $2,000 shotgun for home defense. Is it cool? Hell yeah! Should you be able to own one because of your 2A rights? Absolutely! But do you really need an expensive semi-auto? Get yourself a $250 Mossberg Maverick 88, save the rest for ammo and training, and call it a day.
@@KC51-q6w yup that’s a good summary of the video hahaha
Thourough.
@@MrFmccarty thank you. Give me a subscribe!
You say 'uh' and 'um' seemingly every other word. Not trying to be a dk, just a constructive criticism, especially because I really enjoyed the rest of the video. Your information & presentation are great. I would just suggest dropping the uh umming. You would never idly point your gun at someone on the range right? So just think of uh umming as verbal flagging. And then you will notice it all the time & never do it again. Ha! Again not trying to be a hater. Quite the opposite. Just a helper. And far from perfect myself. Anyway cheers. Good video.
@@CormacBride um ok uh thanks man!
@ No wurries! Somday u wil be as prefect as I ame