The Evolution of Angel Dust
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Angel’s gone through a lot of changes over the years, but no matter what, we all still love him. Below are pretty much all of the links to each picture that I used on Viv’s original portfolio blog.
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I believe the evidence for Angel being genderfluid is still in a speedpaint of Angel that Viv did on her UA-cam. I recall her mentioning it in that video's description as saying something to the effect of "I just don't see him as genderfluid, just a guy who likes drag and feminine clothes". It should still be up for anybody who wants to look for it, I came across the information while binging her speedpaint content in mid 2020.
FOUND IT: ua-cam.com/video/bzww_9DNl40/v-deo.html
@@topazbennett95 Thanks so much! I appreciate you dug this up for me. It gets a little tough to sift through all of the info after a while.
@@topazbennett95 owah thanks for enlightening me to this video >:] i dont rlly check through vivzie's channel so i feel glad to know she has many banger videos
I mean a whole essay could be written about how problematic it is that flamboyant men or masculine women are PRESUMED to be some other gender, rather than just being a dude who's feminine or a chick who's masculine. But that's a whole other topic.
Angel is just a dude that likes dressing up, and he's not any less of a guy because of it, nor is he a guy in spite of it.
@@jadecoolness101 See, I'm all for the genderfluid rep, but I think it was a wise choice to distinguish the idea of Angel as a drag performer vs Angel doing drag to express his gender fluidity. There are gender fluid people who do drag, but there is a certain bias among cishet audiences that doing drag is just what being gender fluid just is in its entirety, and I think Viv wanted to avoid that potentially harmful messaging.
I think the current set up we have in the Hazbin cast is perfectly servicable, since we have a range of characters who express at all different points on the gender spectrum and have a large diversity of orientations on top of that. That way if a character is more stereotypically feminine and also gay like Angel we have characters who still buck that trend, so the representation comes off as more authentic since its not just one gay character embodying all the gay tropes.
Proto angel: chaotic bugs bunny
Angel now: sad clown
He isn’t a sad clown... what? His life is sad yeah he in hell but he an upbeat person in other things
That’s just it though; his carefree demeanor is all just an act to protect himself
@@lizaramirez-garcia5944 sad clown.
@@lizaramirez-garcia5944 Bruh, you just showed the definition of sad clown.
But we love him for that.
Also Angels chest used to have a skull but now it’s a heart which is interesting
Yeah, the character changed alot
Angel went really went through a "It's not a phase mom!" phase.
@@totallycheckers6494 lol, he went through an emo phase.
@@liviwaslost I wish I was there when he went through his emo phase, that would of been such an amazing journey while going through my emo phase 😂
He went from beint more murderous to being more sexual in a way
does anybody remember that angel and vaggie we're supposed to be a couple?
Yeah me too
Hehehehe..... 69-
Also yeah- I kinda wanted to see it tho-
and he was bi
I realise that too.. In wiki
2013 Viv: " I don't really like the idea of involving drugs with characters"
Me in 2021: Oh how the turn tables..
Nobody :
Automatic captions : This is Korean.
maybe with the use of the Wayback Machine we can see Vivs old work before it was all wiped out. I don’t know exactly what I would look up but i definitely think it could be a helpful resource
Fun fact about past angle, apparently he was going to be cherry’s DAD yea crazy right.
Running around and screaming like a madman- sound like inosuke XD
Lol, yea it does
I remember Viv confirming Angel was genderfluid in the past. I only remember it because some people got pissy about it.
I wasn’t around for any of the early character concepts for hazbin (I was too young to even know what tumblr was XD) so it’s rly interesting to see how long it’s been in the works and how much the characters have changed! I love angel as he is now, but theres just somethin about 2014 feral angel that’s just *chefs kiss*
Despite Angel being gay now....I still think he has great chemistry with Vaggie.
Ultimate mlm and wlw solidarity (after Team Rocket).
The old design of Angel Dust makes me think about a Dr. Seuss character...
0:17 ace candle ace candle ace candle
8:54
Ha! (Viv)idy
Please don't make my nightmare kill me, I can barely stand what vaggie saw of Alistair in that one video.......
T-T
hey so having been dealing with frequent crashes, I know how to handle a window crashing taking all tabs with 'em
ctrl+shift+t opens the last closed tab, meaning you can keep pressing it until you've restored all the closed tabs (assuming you use chrome, idk if it works on other search engines)
I wanna see a Hazbin/Demon Slayer mashup
3:07 pause your video I found Alastor and old husk
O my god now i know why angel only have two eyes unlike his brother, i was thinking in spiders then i realized he may be inspired in the jumping spider or de ogre faced spider that hace 2 giant eyes with other little 4 in the side maybe that was the idea it makes sense at least for me
if ur window crashes and its chrome then on the tab bar right click and click restore closed windows!
"I don't like the idea of involving drugs with characters-"
HAAAAAAAAAAHAHAhahahahaaha he he he...Yeah... that statement aged like a twitter post
Ok, where can I see the hazbin hotel series. All I can find is the pilot.
It's still in production with the studio A24. It hasn't officially come out yet.
I love Angel but does anybody remember Tyco?
Isn't he goosworkz character?
No, not at all. Goosworkz made his theme song though.
@@MoonBunniess oohh! That makes alot of sence! Thanks for clearing that up :)
I imagine it probably won't be an absolute factor in the show, but I really hope she still uses the feral/creature-like forms for some scenes in Hazbin. It can create some REALLY interesting scenes and build up to really show just how demonic these demon characters can get.
Plus, terrifying animated creatures are a plus in my book.
I think they'll keep that. The pilot and Alastor's prequel comic hint to it with Alastor having a clearly more demonic secondary form that he can morph in and out of at will. Similar for Charlie, with her temporarily growing horns, having red scleras, and all of her teeth becoming sharp for a moment during her musical number.
I would love to see a feral sir pent. Im a sucker for snakes
yea I definitely agree! I also think it could create rly interesting emotional scenes since it was mentioned that they turn into those forms when scared/excited? If they keep that concept that is
Viv already put a creature/final demon form transformation in Helluva Boss episode 6 (with Stolas), so it's likely that we'll see more of it in the future at some point
I don’t remember the originally website but I do remember the post with vivzie saying that she’s changing angel from gender fluid to cis
Glad to know I wasn't the only one who caught it. It doesn't really bother me either way, but I like knowing at least SOME of my memory is still good. lol
Angel Dust being a feminine male gives me so much validity as a masculine female
Cis? I am not familair to that term. ^ ^"
@@AngelCnderDreamer cis is a shortening of the term cisgender. Cisgender is the opposite of transgender, it is a person who identifies with the gender associated with their sex (ie a girl who is not trans; a cis girl)
@@Sinc3r3ly Ah I see. o: Thank you for answering my question. ^ ^
I do like Angel’s cream white and wine colour palette.
I remember being a really big fan of Angel Dust a few years ago when I first found his concept stuff. one thing I found really interesting about his character was that, originally, the duller the pink in his fur appeared, the soberer he was; so this meant that Angel was almost never sober. I just thought that was kinda a fun concept but understand if it was changed before Hazbin Hotel's pilot
I think she only toned him down a little bit by the time Hazbin Hotel rolled around. Not a whole lot.
He's still got some interesting things about him, just look at the "Addict" music video.
I agree with that sentence of trying to balance old Angel dust with him constantly pranking and always screaming is pretty difficult anyways im glad that Vivz toned down Angel's character.
Angel’s current design is the best design of him, OF ALL. 👌. I had NO IDEA he had looked SO DIFFERENT at first. 😲😲
7:10 I like the current one and all, but.. my favorite is this version.
@@redpanda6497 same
As a really old fan of vivz the 2016 one probably is the best one considering he actually had more detail than now hes simplified to fit animation. With the hat the gun his suit
@@geeswithane7yrago303 , Yeah, everybody has their preferences. :). I’m actually not a fan of the design you mentioned because to me it looks far too plain. It gives Angel a boring type of look. His current design is bright and looks good on him. 👌. I just prefer his current design’s coloring. I haven’t known of Vivziepop until pretty recently. I very recently looked at her old stuff, but I prefer her newest stuff. The designs are better and the drawing talent is better. In my opinion.
In speaking of evolutions, I kinda miss Vaggies darker emo design. You really got a feel for her character
Yeah, I personally liked that design better. If anything, she's the one who's gone through the most changes.
Yeah now she has a generic looking outfit and her color palette is no different from anyone else's, I can understand why because animation is hard as hell but still, I liked her pilot design better :(
What’s cool, they do confirm on multiple occasions that he is gay throughout the pilot, but address the elephant in the room with his sex work through the comics that he COULD sleep with women but it’ll be an extra cost. Otherwise, he’s an entirely gay character. I appreciate Viv’s details, lots of show don’t tell, especially in the representation department 😁👌🏼
I remember her website so vividly because I was like in middle school and obsessed with her art as a 12 year old
@mercury_stuck_in_1984 your bad at math I’m 17 💀
@mercury_stuck_in_1984 I’ll have it marked 😁
I love your channel and this video, and I was surprised when I saw that you don’t have a lot of subs!
Thank you so much! It might be because I split my attention between two different channels.
5:45 I'm crying over how easily Arackniss just murders and flat out doesn't care I hope that he's like that in the show tiny baby badass man
I remember the old site, it featured a lot of her zoophobia characters too, it was character bios and the pictures of the characters often had an animated blinking motion
I remember Viv’s old website
I was only ever on it for maybe an hour but yeah
I miss it a lot
Basically Angel just became an actual character, the original version is veeeeeeery edgy and has that very distinct 2010-2015 feel to it somehow, exactly the kind of character my edgy ass would have adored back then
The picture from 8:09 was also used in Gooseworx’s song.
damn angel dust at 4:55 and 5:01 looks extremely badass ngl
I knew about viv since like 2013 or 14 hard to say, but I used to look at ALL of her art stuff whenever I had the chance, hazbin hotel, zoophobia. But I never expected angel to come so far, she did a great job with his growth but still keeping him as chaotic from when I first saw his sketches
“I very VIVidly remember-“ omg I might be dumb but was that intentional????
It wasn’t intentional. But it’s pretty funny
Angel’s scared form looks SIIIICK i want it in the show one day
i think being gender fluid is best for angeldust
Yes it is both too.
I really, REALLY hope the secondary demon form thing is going to be used, I'd have such a good time designing my own hazbin ocs
This is a very elaborate and well-made video on the history of Angel Dust, but...
4:45 Is anybody going to mention Beta!Alastor munching on bunnies here!? XD
That's not a beta Alastor. It's another character, but I usually forget his name. He's brothers with the other 3 characters
@@MegaEXD Was the green guy supposed to be Baxter, or something? I wonder who the red guy was!
@@KindredKeepsake I don't think any were Baxter. All of the brothers are dragons
@@MegaEXD Oh right, the dragon thing! XD I forgot!
The red character is Hatchet, he did cameo in the Hazbin Hotel pilot as one of the background demons watching the televisions.
I remember seeing all of angels past designs on Vivzie’s deviantart around 2016 before she nuked her account, she has a few stray art pieces she left up, but the majority is deleted. Really sad.
Well he is so handsome xD
Here before this channel may/may not blow up.
Original Angel Dust would definitely FUCK UP Valentino because Angie is more grumpy when bothered and more insane, I kind of like OG Angel Dust
God do I hope there’s a episode of Hazbin hotel where we go through angel’s old family photos or something and having him get embarrassed by his “Emo phase”
That’d just take the cake
I remember a point when he and vaggie were a thing and that cherri and him were gonna be dad and daughter. Glad they changed this but I wish they didn't change cherri and angel not being related since they got this family like bond
4 minutes and 36 seconds in. Blitzo seems to have gained possession of that box of spiders. Did he steal it? Did he buy it off him? Did Angel lose the box and Blitzo found it? So many unanswered questions.
God, I’d love a gag in the show where people assume that Vaggie and Angel are a couple and the two would just gag at the comment in disgust. It would be a fun little reference to the fact that they were a couple during early development.
Angle dust is actually male
I never said he wasn’t. He USED to be genderfluid
It's amazing how much Angel has changed, and how many of the images you managed to find of him! It's genuinely impressive =0 And his scared form looks so cool!
Am i the only one who noticed that the candles on the fireplace look like the asexual flag?
If I had to associate one char with vivziepop nowadays, it'd have to be Angel Dust tbh.
I don’t like Angel now. Not really his personality or design but it isn’t that bad. Nothing wrong with being feminine, but when he was more crazy and masculine, I liked him more. Especially this design. 7:13
I like it alot too cause it should who he was before he died. He was born into the mafia. Now you can't see that anymore.
#AngelDustspinoff
#Angle Dust spinoff too.
I agree with most of this. I can't confirm the gender fluid fact, but I got turned onto HH from my Cousin way back (the same design time period that you said you got into it). I really liked the idea of (what I heard at the time was he was male and gay) an openly gay male character that was crazy and violent (he seemed very fun, kinda Joker like). So seeing the evolution of my first and favorite HH character as a reminder (with some things I didn't know too) was really cool. Great video.👍
I think It's impressive you dug up all those drawings, and I thought I knew it all Hazbin Hotel lmao
hmm, I think I'm in the wrong place
thank you :)
How do I have more subs than you?! Your videos are amazing and you need A LOT more subs!😳
All these artworks bring so much nostalgia for me, back when I used to read her Zoophobia comics, and watch her quick sketch videos. Good times
You sound kinda like Vaggie >.
8:54 was that a pun I sense
The candles on the fireplace mantle are black, grey, white, and purple…
Any significance there?
Edit: The ace flag perhaps?
Keep up the great work!
Dear lord 666 subscribers
You can't spell tumblr without *BUM*
No seriously, you can't.
It would just be tlr.
I still think of him with Vaggie just because, even though their relationship was never truly animated, what we did see has so much chemistry. Pan, bi, whatever, I love him with Vaggie.
a angel fish
It kinda sucks that the characters got watererd down to basic L G and B. It feels like she took representation away, Angel has always been a fan favorite and it would have been awesome to see a genderfluid pansexual person in the lead cast of protagonists.
its midnight and its dark and when the "owo wat dis" emoji came on it burned into my f....king retinas
very cool! angel dust is my favorite character
Angel was originally pan Vaggie was originally straight but know Vagatha is lesbian and Angie is gay
I had it all screenshot on my phone but bring the idiot I am I broke my phone
DeviantArt?
Maybe MySpace?
Angels demon for is horrifying I am beyond scared
*I have memory loss to! And brain damage*
Now angle dust has an Evolution.?
No se que decis (._.
Solo vine por la evolucion de Angel que pude descifrar en la portada del video :>
No me puedo imaginar a Angle junto a Veggie xD
Tim burton angel as the thumbnail
Angel Dust is a character I'd go gay for.
Let’s gooo
0:13 ctrl+shift+t and thi are back
I discovered Viv’s work in 2017. And I personally prefer the old canon where Vaggie was supposed to be his love interest. I feel like his old design made sense to me.
Maybe it would have been better for some. But I really like his new version. Not many characters get shown like he is now. Also moxie from helluva boss. He bi but it’s not really important
@@lizaramirez-garcia5944 it’s just that his older design really stood out with the mauve purple. Now he just looks like Neapolitan ice cream. Just saying
I like him being gay, idk why I'd want another straight couple (it'd also destroy Vaggie and Charlie so also getting rid of the lesbian rep unless people expect Vivzi to pull another female love interest out of her @ss) especially with him and Vaggie, it'd also make the Valintino situation with Angel being a gay p0rnstar who f*cks his boss null and void, unless you expect Angel to ACTUALLY date someone in first place, and still be a c0cksleeve. I mean, think of how many things would have to be completely changed...
His old designs are freaky af. Also, Vaggie as a lesbian knight protecting her angelic princess >>>> Vaggie as a straight action girl who acts tsundete whenever she sees Angel Dust. If you want a straight couples, we already got Moxxie and Millie, Lucifer and Lilith. Also, we barely get nice gay reps in cartoons, please us have Angel Dust and Vaggie.
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Is it just a coincidence that the candles in the background are the asexual pride colors?
I honestly didn’t even realize I did that. I was coloring them completely randomly. But it all works out in the end, because I’m Asexual xD
Deviant Art?
Angel is canonically gay (as far as we’ve heard) but in a canon comic (I think it’s canon please correct me if I’m wrong) that shows vaggie and Charlie recruiting him to be a patron at the hotel. They pull up in the car and he says something along the lines of “I charge extra for women” meaning women most likely are not his preference. But if he had to (this could be from having to work for Val) he would take a female customer. Like I don’t 100% remember if this was a canon comic or not. Regardless of his sexuality Angel is a wonderful character and is honestly my favorite in the whole universe of vivzie. I love his whole personality and just his character in general. He also has a sister. I don’t know if she’ll be canon in the show or not once it comes in full swing but there is art of her. I’m not sure where though
Potatoes
wow
People, bounce the name from the fans, then use the way back machine, it may very well have at least some of it saved
I remember the black website with the red text and reading her zoophobia comic on it. But yeah, that's a blast from the past.
you remind me of chaos55t /pos and im immediately subscribing