Love it, I used to use a similar method for my first models (Iron Warriors), but the yellow contrast over the silver helps to really take it to the next level! Might have to give it another shot using yours and a couple years of experience!
I think I've been sleeping on Nazdrag Yellow, definitely gonna have to pick it up on my next paint run. Might give this method a shot on a future mini, thank you for the tutorial as always Lloyd 🙏
Indeed! My mind was blown and the Coach might have saved me some money from investing in Lib. Gold and invest in Nazdreg Yellow from my question from the last video LOL
Corporate needs you to find the differences between this picture and this picture. Slap Chop; black base and drybrush with grey and light grey and add contrasts. No Slap Chop; Black base and drybrush with silver and light silver and add contrasts. They are the same picture. But to be serious to, really good looking model, I haven't tried it on a whole model before. But on terrain it really makes it looks like metal without having to use metal spray or paint with the lumpy metal paints. Silver drybrush over military green base looked great on the Kill Team bunker terrain.
No Slap Chop, then proceeds to use "slap chop" just with metallics :D Good, concise and fast tutorial! And great tip for the trim, will have to try that Nazdreg Yellow + Agrax since I am still looking for my trim recipe.
great, iam new in painting and i will try this for my Slaves to darknes vanguard box. So u have some videos, how i can make the horses and the charoit?
I'm not too familiar with Warhammer fantasy but seeing the model makes me wonder how the slaves to darkness warriors would be as chaos marines as the paint job you have done would look really good as iron warriors
Hi. Great finish to the miniature. Can I ask, when you are painting things that are behind say a cloak or details area behind an area, do you try to paint the semi hidden area or not bother as it won't be seen once on the table? Cado Ezechiar is a good example of what I mean. Half of his armour is partially visible but difficult to get to. Thank you, kind regards Ian
It doesn´t really matter to me either way, but isn´t what you just did basically slap chop step by step but with matallics insted, going from black primer and working your way up with drybrushing with an increasing brighter color and finishing with a white/chrome highlight, and then using contrast paints and washes on top? What exactly did you think the difference was? Great looking miniature though 👍
@@herostrate Was someone pretending it was? It’s just that when you say something is “Not” something, and you follow it up with doing exactly that, then what’s the point? It’s like saying “No Zenithal painting here” and then blasting light grey instead of white paint/ink through an airbrush from above at a dark primed model, and thinking what you just did was not a Zenithial highlight because you used slightly different colors with the exact same technique to achive the exact same results.
@@TheThewhatnow I didn’t make the video but if the message was intended to be “not all drybrush underpainting is the gimmick called slap chop” then that’s what I took from it, and it’s a statement I agree with.
@@herostrate Again that’s like saying that not all bright paint applied with a rattlecan or airbrush from above, on a dark primed model to achive a “light from above” effect, is a Zenithal. If you step by step are doing the same thing as you are claiming you aren’t doing, because you think it’s a “gimmick”, then you are in fact doing the gimmick, you just don’t like the name, or you want to claim some of the credit for the great technique, because you like the effect and results from doing the thing, but wasn’t able to be the one to popularize it. So many people angry because they have at some point managed to do something similar, and now feel robbed for some reason because a smaller youtuber made a guide for it and it became popular without them getting credit for it. This goes for a lot of content creators and a portion of viewers, it just doesn’t make sense, i guarentee you that there would have been no issue if someone like squidmar or some other large youtuber was the one that made the guide first.
@@TheThewhatnow There's tons and tons of guides on youtube that use underpainting, including drybrushing, that predate "slap chop". Check out Marco Frisoni's sizeable channel for example, it's full of them. But you're right in that my personal beef is with attempting to rebrand a popular technique for the gain of your own channel - I think using marketing gimmicks rather than craft or original ideas is a cheap and cynical way to achieve growth for an art channel. That same criticism applies in part to the video we're commenting under right now (using a buzzword for traffic). I still disagree with your idea that all underpainting falls under the ideas presented in "slap chop" - it's reductive. Slap chop presents a very specific way of drybrush-underpainting with black, grey and white, and that's kind of it. Showing viewers that there are other ways (applications, colours, orders, etc) of doing something similar is... similar but not the same. It's useful to understand that difference when discussing techniques. No beef with you, by the way, I'm mostly ranting at the situation, not you.
@@ThePaintingCoach Oh yes now when I think about it I think I purchased them on ebay. They looks so great. I have the old metal once too since I was a kid and am using one of them for my dnd character.
This sort of Slapchop anyway. It's just a metallic base, highlighted with lighter metallics and then tinting parts with other colors. Solid tutorial however.
You called the video "no slapchop" but then the entire paint job is predicated on drybrushing the model with underpainting in silver instead of grey/white. I agree that slapchop is a stupid name, but doing drybrush underpainting and then sticking "no drybrush underpainting" in the title is a bit weird.
It's not like drybrush underpainting didn't exist before the "slap chop" stunt, not was the name itself even original. Voluntarily widening the term to cover all drybrush-based recipes gives it a ton more credence than it deserves.
@@herostrate Nobody is saying slap chop is a novel invention. It’s revisiting an old paint method, with new paints, with a catchy name, and presented in a light hearted way. George Moonman was saying that the video is “nO sLaPcHoP” ….but then proceeded to slapchop. It’s hypocritical and thirsty AF.
@@sal4m4nd3r I agree it's not the end of the world either way (and yes, they're all trying to profit off of cheap buzzwords), but I still don't think all drybrush underpainting is "slap chop". That's like saying all painting is washing cause the paint isn't dry.
This isn't even slapchop lol. Too many nerds sitting in reddit and youtube comments (dire) regurgitating what slapchop is and don't even know the meaning. Go touch grass, it's not even important.
The first minute and a half already gives us an awesome silver little dude! So simple yet effective, great video!
Cheers
This looks great, especially for how quick it is. I will definitely try this for my iron warriors.
The gold and silver look amazing on this model! Great job
Love it, I used to use a similar method for my first models (Iron Warriors), but the yellow contrast over the silver helps to really take it to the next level! Might have to give it another shot using yours and a couple years of experience!
Gonna use this for my Iron Warriors, thanks!
I think I've been sleeping on Nazdrag Yellow, definitely gonna have to pick it up on my next paint run. Might give this method a shot on a future mini, thank you for the tutorial as always Lloyd 🙏
Cheers Niko
Really cool. I didn't know the Nazdreg Yellow could do a such beautiful gold
Cheers!
Same!
You should watch his video on Ork Terrain, he uses contrast paints over silver to create lots of different effects. Very creative guy.
Indeed! My mind was blown and the Coach might have saved me some money from investing in Lib. Gold and invest in Nazdreg Yellow from my question from the last video LOL
I've been using a thin coat of Snakebite leather over the Nazdreg instead of Agrax to make it into a darker, burnished gold.
Really really like this way of doing gold trim, lookis great
Corporate needs you to find the differences between this picture and this picture.
Slap Chop; black base and drybrush with grey and light grey and add contrasts.
No Slap Chop; Black base and drybrush with silver and light silver and add contrasts.
They are the same picture.
But to be serious to, really good looking model, I haven't tried it on a whole model before. But on terrain it really makes it looks like metal without having to use metal spray or paint with the lumpy metal paints. Silver drybrush over military green base looked great on the Kill Team bunker terrain.
I might have to reconsider how I want to paint the Slaves army I just started painting!
Very cool! I love these models and can't wait to get some. We'll done!
Cheers mate
Yes!!!! I'm excited for this!
Enjoy!
Amazing painting Job
No Slap Chop, then proceeds to use "slap chop" just with metallics :D
Good, concise and fast tutorial! And great tip for the trim, will have to try that Nazdreg Yellow + Agrax since I am still looking for my trim recipe.
You're looking good man! Thanks for the tutorial too!
Nice and quick! Just what I was looking for :*
great, iam new in painting and i will try this for my Slaves to darknes vanguard box. So u have some videos, how i can make the horses and the charoit?
Druchai violet, guilliman flesh, fireslayer flesh, reikland fleshshade and collia green shade are all great for shading the nazdreg gold with
Very cool! 👍🏻
Thanks
Great video as usual, i might acutally get some slaves to darkness fairly soon so this will be helpful
Cheers Rob
Would also make a nice paint scheme for Stormcasts!
Top, thanks
Awesome guide mate i might have to start an StD army now lol, do you know what you done for the base? Really nice mini 👌
Cheers - off the top of my head it was one of the pre-prepared basing kits from geek gaming - you just add glue and dip it in
@@ThePaintingCoach awesome thanks mate 👍
No problem
You sir deserved a like and a new sub! :) ... short video, easy to use techniques and a great result :)
Thank you kindly Daniel
I'm not too familiar with Warhammer fantasy but seeing the model makes me wonder how the slaves to darkness warriors would be as chaos marines as the paint job you have done would look really good as iron warriors
I wonder if they could double up 🤔
Very cool! Thanks for sharing. 😎🇨🇦
Cheers
🔥🎸🔥
Beautiful!
I always have a hard time getting gold to actually look like gold, gonna try out Nazdreg over a metallic paint the next time, looks great! :)
Cheers
what brush do you use in your videos? especially in the allarus custodes one. Im using your tutorials to paint my custodes aha
I use a huge range of brushes - my work horses are Rosemary and Co Series 33
Painting Coach is a Slap Chop Hipster LOL!
Are you still gonna do a video on the gallow dark terrain ?
I ended up having to sell it unfortunately!
Hi. Great finish to the miniature. Can I ask, when you are painting things that are behind say a cloak or details area behind an area, do you try to paint the semi hidden area or not bother as it won't be seen once on the table? Cado Ezechiar is a good example of what I mean. Half of his armour is partially visible but difficult to get to.
Thank you, kind regards Ian
Cheers Ian - deoends if it is just for gaming - can't see it, don't paint it!
Mid-evil iron warriors... I like it lol
Hehe nice
Ok nice video, I assume using grey seer as a prime for a coloured armour works just as well
Over a black as a zenithal - that's the slap chop technique
@@ThePaintingCoach I’m not using black
@@ThePaintingCoach I am using grey seer only and am planning on using contrast to give my armour therefore I’m not using slap chop
Amazing job as always! Just in time for my new box set 😂
There is a way to make the metal part more darker? I mean a darker steel?
Add some more layers of nuln oil to it until you are happy 👍🏻
@@ThePaintingCoach you are my hero! Thank you so much
No problem 👍🏻
It doesn´t really matter to me either way, but isn´t what you just did basically slap chop step by step but with matallics insted, going from black primer and working your way up with drybrushing with an increasing brighter color and finishing with a white/chrome highlight, and then using contrast paints and washes on top? What exactly did you think the difference was? Great looking miniature though 👍
I mean, let's not pretend like "slap chop" was an original technique OR an original name in the first place...
@@herostrate Was someone pretending it was? It’s just that when you say something is “Not” something, and you follow it up with doing exactly that, then what’s the point? It’s like saying “No Zenithal painting here” and then blasting light grey instead of white paint/ink through an airbrush from above at a dark primed model, and thinking what you just did was not a Zenithial highlight because you used slightly different colors with the exact same technique to achive the exact same results.
@@TheThewhatnow I didn’t make the video but if the message was intended to be “not all drybrush underpainting is the gimmick called slap chop” then that’s what I took from it, and it’s a statement I agree with.
@@herostrate Again that’s like saying that not all bright paint applied with a rattlecan or airbrush from above, on a dark primed model to achive a “light from above” effect, is a Zenithal. If you step by step are doing the same thing as you are claiming you aren’t doing, because you think it’s a “gimmick”, then you are in fact doing the gimmick, you just don’t like the name, or you want to claim some of the credit for the great technique, because you like the effect and results from doing the thing, but wasn’t able to be the one to popularize it.
So many people angry because they have at some point managed to do something similar, and now feel robbed for some reason because a smaller youtuber made a guide for it and it became popular without them getting credit for it. This goes for a lot of content creators and a portion of viewers, it just doesn’t make sense, i guarentee you that there would have been no issue if someone like squidmar or some other large youtuber was the one that made the guide first.
@@TheThewhatnow There's tons and tons of guides on youtube that use underpainting, including drybrushing, that predate "slap chop". Check out Marco Frisoni's sizeable channel for example, it's full of them. But you're right in that my personal beef is with attempting to rebrand a popular technique for the gain of your own channel - I think using marketing gimmicks rather than craft or original ideas is a cheap and cynical way to achieve growth for an art channel. That same criticism applies in part to the video we're commenting under right now (using a buzzword for traffic). I still disagree with your idea that all underpainting falls under the ideas presented in "slap chop" - it's reductive. Slap chop presents a very specific way of drybrush-underpainting with black, grey and white, and that's kind of it. Showing viewers that there are other ways (applications, colours, orders, etc) of doing something similar is... similar but not the same. It's useful to understand that difference when discussing techniques. No beef with you, by the way, I'm mostly ranting at the situation, not you.
What box is this model from?
The new slaves to darkness box released last week
@@ThePaintingCoach Oh yes now when I think about it I think I purchased them on ebay. They looks so great.
I have the old metal once too since I was a kid and am using one of them for my dnd character.
Cool!
what is this model - please - chaps - any ideas of the scale - thanks in advance.
This is one of the new Slaves to Darkness chaos chosen models for warhammer - scale is 32mm I think
Isnt this slopchop but instead white/gray You used silvers?
It absolutely is
This is still Slap Chop, just using metallics as the base...
This sort of Slapchop anyway. It's just a metallic base, highlighted with lighter metallics and then tinting parts with other colors. Solid tutorial however.
It’s literally slapchop but metals 😂
You called the video "no slapchop" but then the entire paint job is predicated on drybrushing the model with underpainting in silver instead of grey/white. I agree that slapchop is a stupid name, but doing drybrush underpainting and then sticking "no drybrush underpainting" in the title is a bit weird.
It's not like drybrush underpainting didn't exist before the "slap chop" stunt, not was the name itself even original. Voluntarily widening the term to cover all drybrush-based recipes gives it a ton more credence than it deserves.
PREACH BROTHER!
PREACH! 💩's WEIRD!
@@herostrate Nobody is saying slap chop is a novel invention. It’s revisiting an old paint method, with new paints, with a catchy name, and presented in a light hearted way.
George Moonman was saying that the video is “nO sLaPcHoP” ….but then proceeded to slapchop. It’s hypocritical and thirsty AF.
@@sal4m4nd3r I agree it's not the end of the world either way (and yes, they're all trying to profit off of cheap buzzwords), but I still don't think all drybrush underpainting is "slap chop". That's like saying all painting is washing cause the paint isn't dry.
This isn't even slapchop lol. Too many nerds sitting in reddit and youtube comments (dire) regurgitating what slapchop is and don't even know the meaning.
Go touch grass, it's not even important.
Hi, can anybody explain me what the hell SlapChop is?
I see it EVERYWHERE, but can't find any explanation
It's using contrast paints over a zenithal prime, basically
so just using contrast paints as a base with a new fancy name, thanks
Have you tried searching for the term ‘slapchop’ in UA-cam lol
i believe its called underpainting.
Thank GOD I'm so sick of seeing slap chop everywhere
Im really a 💩for the peinture but for the slaves of cheos it's too much shiny for me
"speed painting" : one figure gets 24 different colours and every surface is painted and repainted 6 times lmao
not so good
How would you paint „normal“ chaos knights? Since they have a darker / blacker armour? Will definitely use this for the chaos Chosen.
Check out my Black Legion Space marine tutorial - I'd paint them exacrly the same as that 👍🏻