Thank you Cody & Brad for the videos on your recent deployment. Having been a volunteer FF here in NY for 23 years & working many wildland fires in the Adirondacks it is fascinating to me to see how you do it out west. Great work brothers!
A quick tip to make bucking large logs a bit safer from a fellow C Faller: "Cut your offside first". Dawg in at the top center and cut, pivoting down from dawgs until bar is vertical, then finish as you did here with kerf on top followed by an undercut. Cutting your offside first reduces the width of the tree by half so you won't need to lean in so close when finishing your undercut. This allows you to be further from the log when it releases.
I was just going to suggest that- but thought there must be someone who has already done so. Just means less wood to cut and less chance of nipping the bar- you can stand further back too!
Yeah. All wanna be loggers. Actually doing and just flapping your gums are two different things. But this is the age of social media where you can type any bs answer and sound like a stuck up know it all. Its sure getting old
Coming from a guy that's worked in the tree industry for years, notch the top and just under cut. Keep your saw sharp. Seen too much dust and not enough shavings. Too much wedge work.
It's refreshing to watch someone, other than a logger, that knows how to run a saw. Keeps the rpms constant, never bogging it. Good job. And from the camera angle, it looked like you were using the tree on your left for protection from the log jumping back at you. Great job.
Yeah I can relate. Trimming for the power company I have done some really dangerous trees especially after a storm. FYI you don't want to start that chain moving when somebody's hands are near the end of it and you got it in the log 👍
Interesting to witness the differences in techniques in breaking a stressed logs back to get it on the ground safely, where you use wedges to keep the top relief cut open, us Brits don't, we may even cut out a shallow gob on top so we can watch it close in on the under cut relieving the tension a bit slower (once the risk assessment had been completed of course) Hats off to all you guys fighting these fires, you have my deepest respect. keep up the sterling work. Stay safe 👍
Nice to see someone who can actually use a chainsaw safely! Well done. Just a tip that I learned when dealing with trees that are leaning like that, instead of just doing your first cut on the compression side and then putting in wedges, I always put a V gob on that side (similar to the one used for felling). Then when you do the cut on the tension side, instead of the tree breaking at some random moment, you will see your cut opening (just like felling) and you more time to control the tree and to move out of the way when it's ready to break. It's also a lot quicker as you don't need the wedges and it's a lot kinder on your nerves! Have a go and let me know what you think. It's got me out of some pritty scary spots over the years :-)
No need to wedge. Start the top cut until you feel it start to pinch just slightly, and then bring it from bottom up. 1/4 the time and even easier(those wedges keep bottom cut from opening more.
Yes but it's bound to happen, people need to understand the area they live in.. whether it be prone to hurricanes and tropical storms, or high heat and little humidity for fires. It's all just part of nature, and just because most of us have I been around long enough to see huge storms and disasters, does not mean they have never occurred before. Humans are very adaptable, and while it's tragic and inconvenient for a lot of people. Again, you need to understand the area and know when and how to deal with the situations of the region.
They said it was to dangerous to cut! Cody replied, "Fear not! I have a UA-cam channel!" For a momment there I could see the disappointment when you thought the wood was pinched and then the relief once it broke free. Respect on your chainsaw skills! Stay safe down there!
Don't pay no attention to any of the negativity in the comments, you where there and you got it cut in the way you thought best and no one got hurt, I am new to your videos and have enjoyed them so far. Good job and be safe!!!!
I felt bad for the guy but it looked like that handle was about 60 degrees from vertical grain orientation. Bending it sideways doomed that handle--straight grain might have done a bit better.
Too bad there's no metal alternative with acceptable weight and balance, though producing one is probably feasible. Then it could have the exceptional leverage of a halligan bar.
Handles sold at most hardware and home improvement centers are generally of a lower grade with the best going to more knowledgeable buyers. Try ordering from a good logging supplier, Baileys, Madsons, and let them know that you want the best. The orientation of the rings is critical.
In an area where it could catch everything else on fire. Had fallen into an unburned area - would have laddered up and caught fire and threatened homes after we had left
I wasn't tense only because of his 'friend' standing there. Without that friend, that would be a dangerous little trap. I also had to factor in Wrangle. Clearly this was not the first time he has seen and done this. The angle and degree of tension is also pretty shallow. Wrangle is close enough to also assess that split we don't get a sense of until afterwards. Overall, Cody aint going out there to get hurt, or hurt another, but he dropped all his excuses at the junk pile. Now, it's just doing the work.
tbh the wedges were unneeded as well as the top cut could have just came up from the bottom making sure to not be under the log and let gravity keep the saw from being pinched
Zackary Denson the top cut was very well needed so the tree would separate cleanly. If he would only cut from the bottom, it would eventually break but stay connected by bent wood fibres under VERY high tension. This way, the physics helps ripping the last fibres that connect the parts apart.
When I was in (I think) 9th grade, we supposed to do a speech about who we admired. One friend chose Dennis Miller ) this was circa 1989/90'. And I chose a smoke jumper. Got few claps/acclaims, but this video took me back. Almost 30 years. Still proud of you (not just 'jumpers, but all you folks ...)
Hi Cody. I love your channel. There are special technics to cut logs like that under tension. You cut leaving a triangular shape pointing towards the presireside inside. Then when cutting from below, the log will drop calmly and controlled.
I cut up thousands of blow down White Pine and Norway log trees. I never used a wedge , when you know what your doing wedges are a waste of time. But you do need a longer bar, so you can reach both sides. This is how i made a living for 36 yrs, felling and bucking up timber.
Been there and done that many times. Very dangerous indeed. Not always so lucky to keep the chainsaw from getting bound up by the tree collapsing around it.
I hate tell you guys this but I can tell that he is NOT a timber faller. I fell timber for a living. You guys need real training from a timber faller that has worked in the woods for years. That job would have been done in less than a minute. I would like to know who trains you guys.
Here is a list of everything you and your crew did wrong, that I noticed. 1) No chain break use when there should have been, multiple times 2) Pushing the saw back and forth while cutting 3) Swinging the blade too close to self with no chain break and hand on trigger 4) Walking on top of a burning log that has a cut it in 5)Using the chainsaw you hoist self over the burning log 6)Too much dust. Chain not sharp. 7) Should do a pie cut. 8) Wedge use is unnecessary 9) Log still on fire. They should scape it thoroughly with shovels, McCleods, and bury the smolders first before the chainsaw even starts 10)Cutting log with an ax inside of it 11) cutting longways into a hot log 12) Crew man with no gloves on placing his bare hand on a hot log 13) Leaves saw in a sketch position at 6:39 14) crew man uses ax to pry and breaks the handle 15) Drops a log on own leg because he is bucking on the downhill like a fool 16) Bucks a log loose with a hatchet inside 17) adjusting footing while reving saw during the stump cut 18) crew man places hand on stump inches away from a spinning chain 19) sitting on downed log during stump cut 20) putting a wedge in a cut while a reving saw is still cutting the cut You and your crew should be embarrassed to call this "good work." You are a danger to yourself and everyone you work with. Seek help. I love that you uploaded this video, because now I have a fine example of what not to do to show to my sawyers.
Here I though it was a national emergency and all these guys were trying to save a forest, and here he was just trying to get a piece of cedar for his woodshop at home. Ya gotta love it!!!
I'm 61 and have been running a chain saw since I was 14. If he knew what he was doing he wouldn't need those wedges. I've cut hundreds of trees that were in worst condition than this. I've never used a wedge at no time in my life to cut a tree.
oh wranglerstar my hero... the way he climbed that tree and placed those wedges is amazing! he even has his little pounder holder on his belt😂 i cant stop laughing then they clapped at the end 😭
As a mill worker, and someone who misses the outdoors.... Ive really thought about looking into this line of work. Ive ran a small barker machine for years and before I turn 40 Id like to get into something more active. Thanks for these videos they are inspiring.
Nice video Wrangler very professional seems like your granddad taught you alot and i like the old school feeling you bring off i like how you have very little gear and still get job done with every one else i see them wearing all kinds of stuff.
FFS, I buck logs for a living. Just looking at the way the tree is lying, you can tell if it is under pressure downward or up ward. Cut into it from the top and it will show you this by the cut trying to close up. As it closes up, pull the bar out and cut up from the bottom. I guarantee the bottom cut will open up and the log will drop. HOWEVER, if you are dumb enough to drive wedges in from the top, you will open the top cut AND, in the process, close the bottom cut. Do you see how you are using wedges incorrectly and working against yourself???
@@wranglerstar you are wrong. I've made the same cut thousands of times. Compression wood first. Which you did. Then tension wood. There was no need to hold the top cut open . It's going close when you under buck. When you under buck the cut is opening. How is it going to pinch your saw? It can't .
Put a face cut in the top. Then plunge in just above the bottom all the way through. Cut to within 1 to 2 inches of your top cut then go back to the bottom cut from below to meet your plunge cut. The log will release slowly with resistence from the hinge. Safe and no need for wedges. I have performed this technique dozens of times. Very safe for the cutter.
Cody- I just got home from the Boundary Waters Canoe Area last weekend. You would have a ball cutting trees there- they had a decent blowdown last year that left lots of large trees like that one laying about!
Omg. Chopping tools and digging tools should not be used as prying tools. I was just waiting to see the handles break. But I guess that's why structural fire firefighters are the best.
Well done fella. I have faced soooo many Danger trees and live chimneys over my falling carreer. Live long bud. Looks to me like you know what to do to go home tonight fella !
Lots of negative "I could've done it better" comments on here. Point is....tree needed to be cut, he did the job he aimed to complete safely and effectively. Enough said.
Wasnt a bit of safety in here just scared. Had he been safety minded he would not have been cutting while his guy was tapping in that wedge. Had that saw kicked his buddy would have been dead.
I was the one doing the video and was about 30 or so feet back and zoomed in. So there was no danger to me. The tree was also on a steep slope which was never shown in the video. Hence the reasoning behind the caution by Cody and the distance I kept.
@@Bouzsi just another green horn that thinks he knows something. I don't know what he considers steep ground is. But that ain't it. Follow me around and I'll show you where the big boys play.
Cut the off side first , an finish your cut on the safe side, no need for wedges here, you were working against the wedges. Finish your cuts too, don't stop an wait for it to splinter, keep the saw going
That's a small log. No need for dancing around. Cut compression wood first, which he actually did, then cut tension wood. Done. I also thought it was funny how mr. Safety climbs up on the tree to put totally unnecessary wedges in the cut.
Someone is going to get hurt around this JACKWAGON... Simple log bucking 101... From one side of the log working from the top Cut the far side of the log first... Come back across the top and before the log pinches your bar move to underside of the log and back bar the holding wood... If the pinch point is on the top... If the pinch point is on the bottom start there...
Tommy Donovan and whats with all this guys back & forth sawing action? Use tose dawgs man! It doesnt help to use a chainsaw like a hacksaw ya big ole group of "pros"...
Pro timber fellers do cuts like that all day. No wedges needed. To do correctly one would cut almost half the wood away on the back side. Powerhead would end up at 12 o'clock. If cutter does not have a lot of experience cut out a 3-6 inch face on top although not necessary. Start under cut. This would take about 1 minute. That looks like Western Red Cedar near a road. Save the thing and make shakes or boards out of.
Which means you have no idea of its structural integrity, nor if the temperature at any point deep in the log is enough to get very exciting if the saw drags fresh air in. Watching you calm confidence and the smooth teamwork of the crew was a rare pleasure. There is also the fact that you cannot be certain of the ground beneath your feet and ever present risk of voids half full of burning root.
It's only dangerous because your standing on the low side hoping that the cedar with the roots burnt out is going to save you...and sharpen that dam saw
Heres my take on it , if you have a bunch of forestry workers or others, of whom are not willing to take on such a task but willing to fold arms and watch someone who will, with all the possibility of injury or worse , takes pride and carries out that task in a safe manner , I'm on board ! Wranglestar , AWESOME.
Great job,use to cut and climb for 20 years.If you don;t have wedges you can make a wide pie cut,or face cut on top,and when you come up from the bottom the log will have that room to keep from pinching the bar.
Looks like a routine buck. You could probably ream through that whole log from the top cut with no plastic necessary. I could see it being scary for someone who doesn't cut too much. But im probably just trolling. God bless you far fighters, your really doing the lords work out there. Sooooo heroic! 😍
The readon it took so long is that the wedges held the log in tension. Do the top cut ,withdraw to about a wuarter diameter cut down undet and up and it will drop away from you. U just made it harder for yourself
Why did he climb on the log (dangerous) to set/attempt to drive the wedges (which do not serve much purpose to begin with)???? In such a situation i was taught to cut 1/3 way down then come up from underneath. This guy is a showboat..............
I think he made initial cut on camera wedged it and cut from the other side down a lot deeper but that was never shown in the edit we see, that’s why he’s stepping back over the log before he cuts up from the bottom.
@@em0_tion Where I’m from, that famous story is known as “the Turtle and the Bunny.” It’s a great lesson about foot races, and what it takes to be a winner. It teaches us that it really makes no difference if we are fat and slow. There’s no reason to get in shape, train, or work hard at getting faster, because in the end, being faster and more athletic will just cause you to lose, anyway. Slow and steady always wins the race. It works out that way any time the faster person takes a nap in the middle of the race, and doesn’t wake up until after you cross the finish line, so basically always, pretty much.
25 inch bar. unfortunately there was a theft at the volunteer fire dept I volunteer at and chainsaws were stolen so this was what the fire station could afford.
Let me get this straight. Wildfire. Firefighting crew. Everyone supposed to be fighting the fire. However, instead of fire fighting you take 12+ minutes out to film. Real responsible.
1 guy working, 9 guys chillin, and 2.5 million guys sittin and criticizing 😂
Guys just want to run saws on fires, their wasn't a real reason to cut it. Happens all the time.
My thoughts exactly :)
Reuben I love that comment. Rofl
Facts
That's right lol
Thank you Cody & Brad for the videos on your recent deployment. Having been a volunteer FF here in NY for 23 years & working many wildland fires in the Adirondacks it is fascinating to me to see how you do it out west. Great work brothers!
A quick tip to make bucking large logs a bit safer from a fellow C Faller: "Cut your offside first". Dawg in at the top center and cut, pivoting down from dawgs until bar is vertical, then finish as you did here with kerf on top followed by an undercut. Cutting your offside first reduces the width of the tree by half so you won't need to lean in so close when finishing your undercut. This allows you to be further from the log when it releases.
^ this.
Eli Lehmann exactly! Use bridging technique for this, much safer and faster
I'm glad someone here knows what they are talking about!
I was just going to suggest that- but thought there must be someone who has already done so. Just means less wood to cut and less chance of nipping the bar- you can stand further back too!
Far as the downed tree that was leaning....He made a routine 30 sec cut into 5 minutes. all pays the same.
Every group work ever:
1 Guy working
9 Guys chillin
😂
Govt. workers.
I cut timber for 27 years. I've never seen anyone make such a big production bucking a little cedar like that!
Lol, that chain was also throwing dust.
That’s this guy’s whole M.O. He really must work for the Forest Service. They are all into big shot style grandstanding.
@@heydudeyahbro5492 lol not even, homeboy is a contractor. Forest service shot crews would run circles around these guys
The title has me busting out laughing!! Lol talk about being dramatic!
It's how government works.
I see this has been up for a while but I just found it...wow, the UA-cam expert-arazzi are out in force on this one. Brutal.
Probably because it's so painful to watch hahahahahaha
Yeah. All wanna be loggers. Actually doing and just flapping your gums are two different things. But this is the age of social media where you can type any bs answer and sound like a stuck up know it all. Its sure getting old
My favorite part is the guy who snapped his Pulaski handle using it as a pry bar, You just take your broken tool and go back and stand on the road.
After hearing how underpaid these guys are it’s obvious this is a labor of love. Respect
There is one man working and 8 are standing around. Those 8 are overpaid.
Coming from a guy that's worked in the tree industry for years, notch the top and just under cut. Keep your saw sharp. Seen too much dust and not enough shavings. Too much wedge work.
That's what I was going to say
@@mathiasholmin7855 what does that do????
Where is your video to show the “correct way” to do this?
Keep the chain sharp! It'll save time in the end, and it's safer. And I'm just a keyboard jockey most of the time.
Yep. A shallow but wide top notch, cut up thru the bottom.
It's refreshing to watch someone, other than a logger, that knows how to run a saw. Keeps the rpms constant, never bogging it. Good job. And from the camera angle, it looked like you were using the tree on your left for protection from the log jumping back at you. Great job.
Yeah I can relate. Trimming for the power company I have done some really dangerous trees especially after a storm. FYI you don't want to start that chain moving when somebody's hands are near the end of it and you got it in the log 👍
Kind of like local government road crews - one guy working, 15 guys "supervising".
Cody is the only qualified sawyer they had.
Yeah, just what I was thinking??????? You get qualified by doing! Not by standing around joking about it!
Peter Quodling and none wearing proper ear protection?
Peter Quodling it's more so that you only need one or two people for certain tasks. Too many just puts lives at risk for no reason
:-D same in Germany
Interesting to witness the differences in techniques in breaking a stressed logs back to get it on the ground safely, where you use wedges to keep the top relief cut open, us Brits don't, we may even cut out a shallow gob on top so we can watch it close in on the under cut relieving the tension a bit slower (once the risk assessment had been completed of course)
Hats off to all you guys fighting these fires, you have my deepest respect. keep up the sterling work.
Stay safe 👍
Nice to see someone who can actually use a chainsaw safely! Well done.
Just a tip that I learned when dealing with trees that are leaning like that, instead of just doing your first cut on the compression side and then putting in wedges, I always put a V gob on that side (similar to the one used for felling). Then when you do the cut on the tension side, instead of the tree breaking at some random moment, you will see your cut opening (just like felling) and you more time to control the tree and to move out of the way when it's ready to break. It's also a lot quicker as you don't need the wedges and it's a lot kinder on your nerves!
Have a go and let me know what you think. It's got me out of some pritty scary spots over the years :-)
No need to wedge. Start the top cut until you feel it start to pinch just slightly, and then bring it from bottom up. 1/4 the time and even easier(those wedges keep bottom cut from opening more.
Hmmm, driving his wedges into the wrong crack.
Weird how west side of US is on fire and the east side of the US is drowning
Chuckyboi123 and the Midwest is just right
Chuckyboi123 and Alaska is to damn cold for this time of the year. Down in the 30s at night.
Yes but it's bound to happen, people need to understand the area they live in.. whether it be prone to hurricanes and tropical storms, or high heat and little humidity for fires. It's all just part of nature, and just because most of us have I been around long enough to see huge storms and disasters, does not mean they have never occurred before. Humans are very adaptable, and while it's tragic and inconvenient for a lot of people. Again, you need to understand the area and know when and how to deal with the situations of the region.
nateman10 we're smelling smoke clear down in Nebraska!!
See Newton's third law: Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
They said it was to dangerous to cut! Cody replied, "Fear not! I have a UA-cam channel!" For a momment there I could see the disappointment when you thought the wood was pinched and then the relief once it broke free. Respect on your chainsaw skills! Stay safe down there!
YOOO your my hero man I watch all your vids! So cool to see you checking out same videos as me.
Thanks!! Much appreciated!
UPNORTHOF60 bb b
Cody"s labb ? that cody?
LMAO... "I have a UA-cam Channel"... classic!
LOL.... you caught him breaking his tool!
Very satisfying to watch the saw cut through the wood so quickly and cleanly - what pros! Fun to see the road crew standing around and watching!
That saw was dull as hell. Cutting through charcoal has
that effect.
Don't pay no attention to any of the negativity in the comments, you where there and you got it cut in the way you thought best and no one got hurt, I am new to your videos and have enjoyed them so far. Good job and be safe!!!!
Who said it was too dangerous to cut, a band of desk jockeys? We give that shit to the rookies here in BC
"Hey, does anybody know how to re-handle a pulaski?"
"Funny you should ask..."
I felt bad for the guy but it looked like that handle was about 60 degrees from vertical grain orientation. Bending it sideways doomed that handle--straight grain might have done a bit better.
PsychoStuey ok
Too bad there's no metal alternative with acceptable weight and balance, though producing one is probably feasible. Then it could have the exceptional leverage of a halligan bar.
Handles sold at most hardware and home improvement centers are generally of a lower grade with the best going to more knowledgeable buyers. Try ordering from a good logging supplier, Baileys, Madsons, and let them know that you want the best. The orientation of the rings is critical.
Who knows the Pulaski story? Please replie.Its a wonderful story
The only thing that made this difficult was the inexperience of the crew working on it.
BINGO! Bunch Of Amateurs!
Yep, he may be more used to using a Pulaski than a saw but I've seen worse.
No
The only thing Lol? whole family of loggers, cut since i was a kid and your wrong. Thats a razors edge with experience. But cool story.
As he said, what a shame about a beautiful piece of cedar! It's nice to know these folk appreciate the medium they work with!
If you keep the saw sharp the tree wont catch fire when you try and fall it.
:-)
are you splitting the burned wood so it doesn't potentially set off another fire from burning inside out?
yes.
In an area where it could catch everything else on fire. Had fallen into an unburned area - would have laddered up and caught fire and threatened homes after we had left
I'm surprised you didnt split that log with a giant froe......
???
All it takes is one lightning strike or a flicked cigarette into a pile of dry leaves
I'll admit to being tense while you were cutting that log under tension. Well handled.
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I wasn't tense only because of his 'friend' standing there. Without that friend, that would be a dangerous little trap. I also had to factor in Wrangle. Clearly this was not the first time he has seen and done this. The angle and degree of tension is also pretty shallow. Wrangle is close enough to also assess that split we don't get a sense of until afterwards. Overall, Cody aint going out there to get hurt, or hurt another, but he dropped all his excuses at the junk pile. Now, it's just doing the work.
tbh the wedges were unneeded as well as the top cut could have just came up from the bottom making sure to not be under the log and let gravity keep the saw from being pinched
Zackary Denson the top cut was very well needed so the tree would separate cleanly.
If he would only cut from the bottom, it would eventually break but stay connected by bent wood fibres under VERY high tension.
This way, the physics helps ripping the last fibres that connect the parts apart.
Marco Tedaldi being that it obviously wasnt a cut for anything that needs perfect cuts all of that is a non issue
dont see anything dangerous there, only if you would lie under it
When I was in (I think) 9th grade, we supposed to do a speech about who we admired. One friend chose Dennis Miller ) this was circa 1989/90'. And I chose a smoke jumper. Got few claps/acclaims, but this video took me back. Almost 30 years. Still proud of you (not just 'jumpers, but all you folks ...)
Hi Cody. I love your channel. There are special technics to cut logs like that under tension. You cut leaving a triangular shape pointing towards the presireside inside. Then when cutting from below, the log will drop calmly and controlled.
Now that is a job i'd be excited to wake for in the mornings.
You need to understand the physics of the situation. Which part is in tension and what is in compression.
I come here to read the comments every time this video pops up in my recommended tab
Same
I cut up thousands of blow down White Pine and Norway log trees. I never used a wedge , when you know what your doing wedges are a waste of time. But you do need a longer bar, so you can reach both sides. This is how i made a living for 36 yrs, felling and bucking up timber.
Am I missing something? I didn't see anything that would have concerned me there, nor cause me to even think about a wedge
Been there and done that many times. Very dangerous indeed. Not always so lucky to keep the chainsaw from getting bound up by the tree collapsing around it.
Watching that log being cut was painful as all could be.
Pass the aspirin Victor
I hate tell you guys this but I can tell that he is NOT a timber faller. I fell timber for a living. You guys need real training from a timber faller that has worked in the woods for years. That job would have been done in less than a minute. I would like to know who trains you guys.
it's a video done for money by an amateur know-it-all, not!
You got that right I fell trees for 22 years and this is a very easy cut no wedges needed these gov workers don’t know what they are doing
Pathetic wasn't it.
That wedge doesn't do anything anyway in that place.
Simple cut , I've cut all my life, never saw anything so stupid as this.
Here is a list of everything you and your crew did wrong, that I noticed.
1) No chain break use when there should have been, multiple times
2) Pushing the saw back and forth while cutting
3) Swinging the blade too close to self with no chain break and hand on trigger
4) Walking on top of a burning log that has a cut it in
5)Using the chainsaw you hoist self over the burning log
6)Too much dust. Chain not sharp.
7) Should do a pie cut.
8) Wedge use is unnecessary
9) Log still on fire. They should scape it thoroughly with shovels, McCleods, and bury the smolders first before the chainsaw even starts
10)Cutting log with an ax inside of it
11) cutting longways into a hot log
12) Crew man with no gloves on placing his bare hand on a hot log
13) Leaves saw in a sketch position at 6:39
14) crew man uses ax to pry and breaks the handle
15) Drops a log on own leg because he is bucking on the downhill like a fool
16) Bucks a log loose with a hatchet inside
17) adjusting footing while reving saw during the stump cut
18) crew man places hand on stump inches away from a spinning chain
19) sitting on downed log during stump cut
20) putting a wedge in a cut while a reving saw is still cutting the cut
You and your crew should be embarrassed to call this "good work." You are a danger to yourself and everyone you work with. Seek help. I love that you uploaded this video, because now I have a fine example of what not to do to show to my sawyers.
Ok man I see u over there sir what u know about a real Chainsaw God
Here I though it was a national emergency and all these guys were trying to save a forest, and here he was just trying to get a piece of cedar for his woodshop at home. Ya gotta love it!!!
I'm 61 and have been running a chain saw since I was 14. If he knew what he was doing he wouldn't need those wedges. I've cut hundreds of trees that were in worst condition than this. I've never used a wedge at no time in my life to cut a tree.
Ok old timer things change like safety procedures and such
oh wranglerstar my hero... the way he climbed that tree and placed those wedges is amazing! he even has his little pounder holder on his belt😂 i cant stop laughing
then they clapped at the end 😭
Not how I’d have done it, but. You didn’t die, so there’s that...
Keith Thorne not how I’d have done your mom, but. You came, so there’s that...
How would you have done it?
Nice watching a guy enjoying his work...
As a mill worker, and someone who misses the outdoors.... Ive really thought about looking into this line of work. Ive ran a small barker machine for years and before I turn 40 Id like to get into something more active. Thanks for these videos they are inspiring.
Kid in Orange helmet gets shut down just for trying to help his friend. 5 minute mark. from guy, "I'm using my wedges" LOL
I think he was signaling for him to stop prying the trunk open cause he was "losing" his wedges.
A professional logger deals with trees like that every day.
"They Said It Was Too Dangerous To Cut"
Who said that?
@Michael Gagne 3:48
lmao this guys legit the guy you dont hire to cut prune plant anything at ur house
The Forest Service is a joke! This guy was there only “qualified” sawyer.
B. Oppegaard His mama.
he did lol
Nice video Wrangler very professional seems like your granddad taught you alot and i like the old school feeling you bring off i like how you have very little gear and still get job done with every one else i see them wearing all kinds of stuff.
It's all possible. Experience + Intellect will get the job done. Fabulous demonstration.
Why did you think you could get those wedges in there any further? You had already applied a force to them by cutting the underside. Or am I wrong?
can pinch when cutting up - then can't get chainsaw and be very dangerous mrsw
He has no idea of what he is doing.
Should have a wedge cut at the top and final under cut you looked scared not sure of what your doing.
FFS, I buck logs for a living. Just looking at the way the tree is lying, you can tell if it is under pressure downward or up ward. Cut into it from the top and it will show you this by the cut trying to close up. As it closes up, pull the bar out and cut up from the bottom. I guarantee the bottom cut will open up and the log will drop. HOWEVER, if you are dumb enough to drive wedges in from the top, you will open the top cut AND, in the process, close the bottom cut. Do you see how you are using wedges incorrectly and working against yourself???
@@wranglerstar you are wrong. I've made the same cut thousands of times. Compression wood first. Which you did. Then tension wood. There was no need to hold the top cut open . It's going close when you under buck. When you under buck the cut is opening. How is it going to pinch your saw? It can't .
Put a face cut in the top. Then plunge in just above the bottom all the way through. Cut to within 1 to 2 inches of your top cut then go back to the bottom cut from below to meet your plunge cut. The log will release slowly with resistence from the hinge. Safe and no need for wedges. I have performed this technique dozens of times. Very safe for the cutter.
Never seen so many steps for cutting a tree
The applause at 3:50 says it all. Priceless!
Cody- I just got home from the Boundary Waters Canoe Area last weekend. You would have a ball cutting trees there- they had a decent blowdown last year that left lots of large trees like that one laying about!
They:
Wranglerstar: They said it was too dangerous to cut!
There mamas
Omg. Chopping tools and digging tools should not be used as prying tools. I was just waiting to see the handles break. But I guess that's why structural fire firefighters are the best.
I felt like I was watching road work being done... one man working and about 20 watching
So you don't understand road work either... What use are you?
Well done fella. I have faced soooo many Danger trees and live chimneys over my falling carreer. Live long bud. Looks to me like you know what to do to go home tonight fella !
I applauded at the same time the crew did. Great skills.
Was it your first day
Lots of negative "I could've done it better" comments on here. Point is....tree needed to be cut, he did the job he aimed to complete safely and effectively. Enough said.
Rick Alwaysprepared I know.. this negativity is credible🤦♂️
Wasnt a bit of safety in here just scared. Had he been safety minded he would not have been cutting while his guy was tapping in that wedge. Had that saw kicked his buddy would have been dead.
Hate to be that guy, but if your saw kicked while that guy was tapping those wedges...yikes
Yeah, pretty much everyone would hate to be that guy.
I was the one doing the video and was about 30 or so feet back and zoomed in. So there was no danger to me. The tree was also on a steep slope which was never shown in the video. Hence the reasoning behind the caution by Cody and the distance I kept.
SOVT exactly and he runs his own sawmill
@@windycurrent you were also making some seriously stupid and ignorant comments from behind the camera... Not sure your input is valuable here, chief.
@@Bouzsi just another green horn that thinks he knows something. I don't know what he considers steep ground is. But that ain't it. Follow me around and I'll show you where the big boys play.
All that fire hardened cedar... bet you'd find some nice pieces. Just keep looking Cody!
truly wonderful to watch you work Sir.
Cut the off side first , an finish your cut on the safe side, no need for wedges here, you were working against the wedges. Finish your cuts too, don't stop an wait for it to splinter, keep the saw going
Those wedges could have easily fallen onto the blade of his chainsaw... Amateurism at best :P
@@Yourebeautyfull I'm not even a logger and I was saying why does he have wedges above his chainsaw on a vertical cut!!!
That's a small log. No need for dancing around. Cut compression wood first, which he actually did, then cut tension wood. Done. I also thought it was funny how mr. Safety climbs up on the tree to put totally unnecessary wedges in the cut.
Next time make an open faced notch on the top side where the bind is, then as you cut from the bottom the log will drop gradually.
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Tommy Donovan exactly. Delt with lots of trees laid down up against other trees. Works everytime
Someone is going to get hurt around this JACKWAGON... Simple log bucking 101... From one side of the log working from the top Cut the far side of the log first... Come back across the top and before the log pinches your bar move to underside of the log and back bar the holding wood... If the pinch point is on the top... If the pinch point is on the bottom start there...
Tommy Donovan and whats with all this guys back & forth sawing action? Use tose dawgs man! It doesnt help to use a chainsaw like a hacksaw ya big ole group of "pros"...
MrPaullywogg theyre amatures, possibly volunteers that are weekend warriors. Spick & span clothing...GREEN.
Nice targets :P
That was a nasty problem, solved with great patience and care. Beautifully done.
Pro timber fellers do cuts like that all day. No wedges needed. To do correctly one would cut almost half the wood away on the back side. Powerhead would end up at 12 o'clock. If cutter does not have a lot of experience cut out a 3-6 inch face on top although not necessary. Start under cut. This would take about 1 minute. That looks like Western Red Cedar near a road. Save the thing and make shakes or boards out of.
nice work, but a pretty basic cut for an arborist or logger with any time on a saw lol
It was on fire from the inside - most don't deal with that.
Which means you have no idea of its structural integrity, nor if the temperature at any point deep in the log is enough to get very exciting if the saw drags fresh air in. Watching you calm confidence and the smooth teamwork of the crew was a rare pleasure. There is also the fact that you cannot be certain of the ground beneath your feet and ever present risk of voids half full of burning root.
It's only dangerous because your standing on the low side hoping that the cedar with the roots burnt out is going to save you...and sharpen that dam saw
3:50 It's just like any road construction job. One guy working, 8 guys watching.
Call Guinness! That was the worlds largest Swedish fire torch!!!
Heres my take on it , if you have a bunch of forestry workers or others, of whom are not willing to take on such a task but willing to fold arms and watch someone who will, with all the possibility of injury or worse , takes pride and carries out that task in a safe manner , I'm on board ! Wranglestar , AWESOME.
in this line of business every cut is dangerous but I got to hand it to you you sure made that one look mighty mighty dangerous
This is why it cost so much to fight fires! Just look at these simple souls!
I've cut many trees like that. Felt like he was a little over worried about it.
my favorite was the chief leaning over the bar as hes cutting. NOT! pretty dangerous
Great job,use to cut and climb for 20 years.If you don;t have wedges you can make a wide pie cut,or face cut on top,and when you come up from the bottom the log will have that room to keep from pinching the bar.
Looks like a routine buck. You could probably ream through that whole log from the top cut with no plastic necessary. I could see it being scary for someone who doesn't cut too much. But im probably just trolling. God bless you far fighters, your really doing the lords work out there. Sooooo heroic! 😍
I been in the tree bis for 30 years and never put a wedges on top ..should have just put a box on top and then a under cut been done with it ...
Wedge or box...agreed
Used to watch this all the time,something has changed, now it irritates the hell out of me. Probably just me. I am gone.
Ditto
What has changed is that you think you know better than him
Cow muscle Many people do.
The readon it took so long is that the wedges held the log in tension. Do the top cut ,withdraw to about a wuarter diameter cut down undet and up and it will drop away from you. U just made it harder for yourself
Simple job handled cleanly. Cool beans boys
I live on a farm in Saskatchewan with no trees worth cutting at all and I can’t stop watching these videos
Why did he climb on the log (dangerous) to set/attempt to drive the wedges (which do not serve much purpose to begin with)???? In such a situation i was taught to cut 1/3 way down then come up from underneath.
This guy is a showboat..............
Wedge kept the cut open.
I think he made initial cut on camera wedged it and cut from the other side down a lot deeper but that was never shown in the edit we see, that’s why he’s stepping back over the log before he cuts up from the bottom.
i mean if your the only one doing the work you should get the right to
@@john_duncan no need because that is the compression side. Keep it open for what? I can tell you too have no clue how to buck a log.
who else felt like he was giving lessons on tree cutting to the other guys?
he should have never put the wedges in the top, it having the opposite effect. The guy is afraid to use the saw.
I didn’t understand that either. 😣🤷🏻♂️
They weren't needed period
They prevented the log from binding on his blade when he was making the top cut
He could have done it, one would be enough to go through the whole thing. He was afraid.
@@ikemancan Right. And then he should have knocked them out
Im learning more from the comments on this vid than i would from all the perfect vid .
Dont be so harsh .
Your videos are so amazingly different. You're sure to stand out and gain a huge following from it
“First you get good, then you get fast.”. Basic rule for most skills. Give ‘en a break guys.
And "final" lesson we learn is slower is faster :D
@@em0_tion Correct is faster but not necessarily slower
@@thehungryhunter3454 it's a saying, like from the story about the tortoise vs the rabbit ;)
Agree 100% but you know everyone's a pro at everything on UA-cam . same folks would be completely lost out there .
@@em0_tion Where I’m from, that famous story is known as “the Turtle and the Bunny.” It’s a great lesson about foot races, and what it takes to be a winner. It teaches us that it really makes no difference if we are fat and slow. There’s no reason to get in shape, train, or work hard at getting faster, because in the end, being faster and more athletic will just cause you to lose, anyway. Slow and steady always wins the race. It works out that way any time the faster person takes a nap in the middle of the race, and doesn’t wake up until after you cross the finish line, so basically always, pretty much.
Too much drama. Just cut a wedge on top and a normal back cut from the bottom. Done it hundreds of times. Safer with better control.
Yes, for all its good intentions, this video is a primer for what it looks like when a bureaucracy undertakes an otherwise simple task.
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That being said in my opinion i would have bore cut it, cut down. Cut up a little leaving holding wood and then offset the cut up top
That awkward moment when you miss the punch 2 times in a row
Winter will b over by the time he gets that cut!
Thanks for your help on the Jolly Mountain fire I live here in Roslyn and enjoy your videos
Lol. The additude every time he sticks the ax in the wood
It looks like you are using a shorter bar than normal. Is that the case or is the tree so massive it makes the bar look tiny?
Scott Donovan comparing the bar to him, looks normal and the tree is just massive to me!
looks like a 28" bar to me.
I think he uses a 32", as he has mentioned a while ago.
25 inch bar. unfortunately there was a theft at the volunteer fire dept I volunteer at and chainsaws were stolen so this was what the fire station could afford.
That is upsetting. I keep hearing about thefts targeting firefighters this season in the PNW.
Let me get this straight. Wildfire. Firefighting crew. Everyone supposed to be fighting the fire. However, instead of fire fighting you take 12+ minutes out to film. Real responsible.
Very skilled and done well, thanks for sharing.
Excellent viewing and result.... *Well done*