Game of Thrones WHAT IF: Sansa Pushes Joffrey
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- What would happen if Sansa pushed Joffrey to his death in Season 1 of Game of Thrones? How would the television show have changed from that point on? Listen now to find out the long-term effects of this change!
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Well thank you very much man. I really appreciate that, Tekaine.
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TheBattProductions read my what ifs and I have another one as I'm rewatching the box set of got
What if arya had used jaqken to kill better people fe joff , cerci , tomommd
And had to hide in harrin hall
Hey, Can you do what if Arthur beats Ned Stark and Howland Reed's party at the tower of joy? Rhaegar is still dead just Arthur killed the party. What would happen to the baby(Jon) and what would come out of this event? I think this would be a good what if situation and video to make and discuss. Thanks.
Hey Abaddon,
I sort of did this one actually! Here you go:
ua-cam.com/video/P2zujbIlSAM/v-deo.html
Tekaine I love the idea of what would happen if Arthur Dayne beat Ned and his party. What would they do with baby "Jon"
I believe his true name is aemon
I don't think Sansa planned to live in that scene. I think she was planning on grabbing Joffrey and dragging both of them off the battlements to their deaths.
Neither do I. I don't think she was going to dive in with Joffrey, but I think she just didn't care what happened to herself really.
She was in the book it details her thoughts and she intended to grasp joffery and jump the hound was actually saving her from committing suicide
I literally screamed at the screen when I watched this scene: "Push him and throw yourself along"
I recall a "touching" speech Roose Bolton gave to Ramsay where he went into detail about how he had raped his mother. In the speech, Roose told Ramsay that he had thought of throwing his infant son into a well until he had looked into his eyes and saw the pale irises that marked him as a Bolton.
A father's fancy was the only reason Ramsay was spared, so I ask, "What if Roose killed Ramsay as a child?"
Haha, that's a great one. No one has ever suggested it before!!!
Yeah, it's a show scene (with awesome acting). It's up on UA-cam right now.
Mad Max Rockatansky Its in the books too.
@@TheBattProductions The book changes would be more interesting with Domeric still alive and being a solid person, that could change a lot of shit.
Big dick Theon remains big dick Theon
In the actual book, Sansa did have the thought to push joffery. But due to her recent loses she also thinks about falling with joffrey by tackling the boy king and falling to their deaths. But was stopped by the hound before she could do anything.
So realistically sansa would die on her own accord and not be executed or freed by our beloved clegane. Good theory tho.
What if Tyrion's mother survived his birth?
Yes, I want answers to this
The Shinedowness lmao idiot, Tyrion's attitude comes from hate and depression, his father and sister mainly caused that as they hate him and are unfair to him purely because the mother died giving birth to him
Johanna Lannister
bluewaffle74ab it seems she was nice generally, especially with how much Cersei, Jaime, and Tywin loved her. But with regard to Cersei and Jaime we can’t really know how much of that is just a lack of them having a mother for very long and it’s just childhood nostalgia or if Joanna is actually nice
That’s an interesting one. The dynamic would most definitely be different. Much like this video you’d have to put it into several possible scenarios.
1. Tyrion’s mother loves him and holds him as special.
2. Tyrion’s mother turns his nose at him and believes him unworthy because he’s an imp.
In both scenarios what stays mainly the same is that Tywin is a hard ass. And as a Lannister he expects great things from his kids who have the honour and privilege to carry the family name. Which is no different than the reality.
In the first scenario we assume the same things while they’re young. Cersei is mean to him because she’s just mean and Jamie is always looking out for him. Tywin is harder on Tyrion not because of any particular hatred or disappointment but because of the disadvantages he knows his son will face. I’d like to believe that because of his wife, Tywin is a little softer on Tyrion to an extent. Which isn’t a lot, cause he’s Tywin. After all, a lot of his distasteful attitude toward Tyrion is because he’s a drunk who spends all his time and money with whores. But would Tyrion be doing those things if he had a bit more respect and love from his mother being around? If that’s the case Tyrion may even be more respectable and proper, which could create Cersei to become jealous because maybe he gets more attention, causing conflict later on. With Jamie on the Kingsguard perhaps Tyrion may actually get to inherit Casterly Rock which maybe causes Cersei to lash out, thus resulting into some mini Lannister civil war.
Scenario 2 we will say that perhaps his mother wants to either have Tyrion as an infant killed or taken away to avoid the shame of his “deformity”. But Tywin is against this as he once said to Tyrion that “men’s laws give him the right to bear his name” since he could not prove that Tyrion wasn’t his. Which means he his a man who respects the law. But let’s pretend in one situation he is willing to try and prove or even fake that Tyrion. So Tyrion is disowned. I’m not sure what the consequences would be for adultery but we can assume it’s not good. So for this reason, we are going to say Tywin would except Tyrion is his. So Tyrion grows up with his mother even showing disdain which causes a complex of him trying to get her attention and love. This results in him either trying to be the perfect son and Lannister or someone who’s constantly getting in trouble through fights or stealing. Of course in another situation let’s say Tywin again says no we keep him because he’s a Lannister and his wife goes against him and tries to abandon or kill him, which she’s put to death for and thus Tyrion is responsible for his mother’s death and everything happens the same more or less.
What if D&D read A Song of Ice and Fire?
😂😂😂😂😂
you're surprisingly relevant, considering how D&D treated most of the Season 8 episodes
Reagan Simms did you time travel or smthn
Game of Thrones started being crap in season 5, it just got obvious in season 8.
Deltahunter this particular comment didnt age too well
Batt! You forget one thing! IF, the Hound escaped with Sansa. Hound would tell the Starks that the Lannisters didn't have Arya! Kinda awesome, right? :D
That's a great point!!!! Excellent catch, Ximen.
If Sansa would have pushed Joffrey to his death then no one would blame Tyrion killing Joffrey which would mean that Tywin would still be alive. As long as the Old Lion would be alive the Lannisters would not fall.
Also, Margaery would most likely marry Tommen because she wanted to be the Queen. Cersei would probably be a bit more sane because she would know who to blame on Joffrey´s death. As long as Tywin would be alive there would not be a power struggle between Cersei and Margaery meaning that ultimately Margaery would not be incinerated.
Petri Luosto also tyrion and the tyrells wouldn't join with dany.
Petri Luosto I think Oberyn was already well on his way to killing both Tywin and The Mountain. It's a popular theory that the reason Tywin was stuck on the shitter was because Oberyn had poisoned him.
Without Joffrey then Roberts bastards wouldn't be killed, therefore Gendry and Arya would reach Rob as no one was coming after them, therefore Jaime is killed by the Karstarks, Boltons also stay loyal, therefore the Freys aren't as necessary to assault Casterley Rock so Red Wedding never happens.
Thank you friend
I agree with your theory great work as always but one BIG thing to take under consideration if Joffrey dies than the whole killing Roberts bastards doesn't happen so Yoren doesn't get killed by the Lannister guards and succeeds in his mission to take Arya home to Winterfell. So if your 2nd theory is correct and Sansa is killed then Robb would have no reason to keep Jaime alive.
That's a really good point! Awesome post.
it's also likely that he may have the Vale side with the north to help kill the Lannisters as the with his spy's found out about Robb promise to "kill them all" in regards to the Lannisters he may have help them. something to remember is that the north was the weakest side in terms of numbers even with the North, Riverlands and the Vale they where still outnumbered by every other king in the war
And even if they did not know about Arya, they might not let Jamie go, simply because they already killed one of their hostages and they might not believe them anymore to not harm Arya.
What if the plot to marry Sansa to Loras would have occurre, what major differences would have that have been?
Would've changed a lot! I love this idea.
Thank you, Brandon.
The sex would be pretty lackluster. At least for Sansa.
Shinobi Acumen I agree. Perhaps I should reword and say political aspects.
TheBattProductions Then what if Sansa is married to Tyrells, we already how that would turn out?
What about if the show version were more faithful to the books version, then we would at least not have too many characters in the show, atleast have strong belwas, Aegon young griff, Jon connington, Daario with blue hair, Victorian greyjoys, Euron with eyepatch, arianne martell, jeyne poole, lady stoneheart and other subplots like stannis the mannis has theon and fake Arya, ser davos to white harbor then to skagos, Mance still alive, dorne plot be very different, Brienne and jaime in the riverland, tyrion wouldn't meet Dany until mid season 6?
Brandon Hatcher then the Tyrells get house Stark seat at winterfel. because Sansa would open her legs fast for loras. haha.
What if Arya went with Brienne?
Ellie Hampton they would probably go for Sansa and come back to winter fell and shit
You kinda missed out the whole fact that Tyrion wouldn't have been blamed for Joffreys murder and never would have been on trial/ killed tywin and never would have went to essos
I didn't explicitly say it, but yes that would've been inferred since no Purple Wedding happens.
Oh goodness. Seeing that wolf head on my boy Robb. It still hurts 😭
What if Sansa had run away with the Hound at the end of the Battle of the Blackwater?
No way would Jaime have been kept alive. If Sansa was killed and the Starks knew about it, Jaime's as dead as a doornail.
1. Robb is all about honor -- and would have followed through.
2. Catelyn would have assumed all was lost, and she was a woman who liked herself some revenge, too.
Sansa ‘Kingslayer’ Stark, love it.
What if Sansa was as able to manipulate Joffrey as Margeary?
Kyle Netherwood That's an interesting one, I think she definitely could have learned to do it. She was already starting, such as when she was manipulating Joffrey to ride in the vanguard, Margaery just has years and years of practice on her.
I LOVE that I just found your channel. I've ever wanted these theories. I will disagree with one tiny thing, though - Cersei wouldn't have tortured Sansa. Torture for revenge isn't a common thing in Westeros, with the exception of the Boltons, who torture people because they're into it, and that's a big no no for everyone else. Cersei tortures that asshole nun at the end of S6 because she's basically gone apeshit. Whenever a high born dies in some horrible way, it's a big deal, like the Martell lady or Lyanna Stark (except not really). The Mad King was notorious for torturing prisoners to death, which is part of the reason he was known as the Mad King. If Cersei had tortured Sansa, not for information, but for revenge, I think it would cause much greater instability in the South, and it would unite the North much stronger against the Lannisters.
What if Ellia Martell were given safe passage back to Dorne with Rhaenys and Aegon Targaryen by Tywin Lannister? Or What if Ellia Martell fled King's Landing as soon as her Husband's Death news arrived? Knowing that to the south of King's Landing are Allies of Targaryens, Ellia should be easily go through the Stormlands into the Tyrells army that's besieging Storm's End for safe passage to Dorne, or even go straight through The Reach into Highgarden then go to Dorne.
Man that changes so so so so much if Elia Martell lives and her children. I can't even begin to think of that right now. My mind will explode.
Excellent suggestion, Christian!!!
Also why Ellia Martell didn't leave King's Landing? I personally will leave court as soon as possible if i know that my husband has killed in battle, as marriage link between Martell and Targaryen is broken, also Daenerys and Viserys got shipped away, why don't they prioritise the heir to the thrones (if they're using agnatic-cognatic primogeniture succession).
Christian Djami some documents from kings landing at the time showed the mad king disinherited aegon
Mk Injustice
1. He's the MAD king, his actions can be considered as illegitimate because it's done out of madness.
2. Any Targaryens alive is a good Targaryens. Restoration Supporter would support any of them anyways.
in the books one of Elia's children lives (Aegon) and hires the golden company to help him conquer westeros
please do What if Ned accepted Renlys help to take the iron throne for him
lucas dunder
10,000 years of Peace
Jk
Sansa and Renly marriage
Tywins line is removed from power
Dornish reconsider their plot for a restoration. The Blackfyre invasion is derailed
Dany is still a wildcard but the 7 kingdoms would still be 7 kingdoms.
there is also the possibility that Baelish would have whisked Sansa away before her execution and sped up when he went to the vale
Yeah, totally. I think he would use saving Sansa as a reason for Catelyn to love him eventually. Though, I always think he had feelings for Sansa, I just dont think he wanted her in THAT way when she was THAT young .Only because Catelyn was still alive at that point.
What if Catlyn had let Brandon Stark kill Littlefinger?
If Sansa pushes Joffrey, there's no doubt that Hound would have killed Meryn Trent. Whatever happens afterwards, is to anyone's guest.
Catelyn says “there’s no mention of Arya” they’d know the Lannisters don’t have her
I always assumed Sansa would've committed a murder-suicide at that point..
It seemed more likely she wanted it to end for herself and just wanted to take Joffrey with her.
Well, given that what she actually wanted was to kill Joffrey and herself in the process... She'd be dead. Tommen would be king much earlier. If word of this reached Robb, what would he do? Father gone, sister gone, 2nd sister unnacounted for(though I'm not sure he'd know this). No way in hell Jamie gets released now. Red wedding might still happen, but maybe Brienne notices something no one else would.
Damn you Sando Clegane, why the fuck did you have to stop her... you have any idea the number of lives you could have saved right there? Idiot.
Also, as a lowkey SanSan shipper, resisting the urge to write a fanfic based around the first (agreed, unlikely) possibility.
Hahahaha. I've never heard the term SanSan before!!!! That's so awesome!
I love it
That scenario is very sweet and I had the fanfic-thought as well :D
so you ship pedophilia?
@@amsieonyeador2136 well, it´s period-acurate :/
what if the Purple Wedding hadn't happened and Joffrey was still alive when Daenerys invaded?
What if Catelyn was murdered by Bran's assassin. The direwolf still saves Bran but the idiot Catelyn removed from the story
Ohh---I haven't thought of this one! Excellent suggestion, Clown.
Cat persuaded Robb to put cautious and measured Roose Bolton in charge of the Battle of the Green Fork instead of the impulsive and hotheaded Greatjon. Without Cat, the Greatjon would have blundered into Tywin's clever trap and most of Robb's army would have been captured or killed. The Starks would have lost much sooner.
Shinobi Not really. Please check out the videos made about Catelyn by The order of green hand. You will see how much better everything would've turned out were Cat to die then.
See I question that. Man the Order of the Greenhand has been dropped on here a lot. Admittedly I haven't thought a lot about if Catelyn dies early, but do you have a synopsis as to what would've been better?
TheBattProductions pretty much everything lol
No matter how many times I re-watch, I always hope that THIS time, Sansa will send Joffrey hurtling to the pavement. Next time. It will for sure happen next time.
Insanity.
What if little finger didn't betray Ned?
So impossible :D It is against Baelish's behaviour
That changes everything! Ned seizes the Throne, Joff Cersei and Tommen are imprisoned...ahhh so much!
I think he already made a video about that. It was "what if Ned took the iron throne"
Daniel Stark well it is indeed basically it, Ned takes the throne and holds it for Stannis.
Daniel Stark I think that was if he took the throne for himself. if he wasn't betrayed he would have held it for stannis.
I love the theory but you forget one thing, if Jamie is never let go by Cat then the Karstarks don't leave Robb so they don't need the Frey Soldiers. This means the red wedding didn't occur. I don't know if Robb could have won the war but he wouldn't have been killed when he was.
What if after renlys death mageray married Robb. I think they would've been a great pair.
What if Joffrey doesn't have Ned executed but sends him to the wall
I imagine she'd instantly become everyone's favourite character but probably have been beheaded in the next episode.
Only beheaded? Cersey would have tortured her until the end of time.
Devastating thing is, with the first scenario, Sansa would probably have died at the red wedding
Man, yeah, the first one with the Hound escaping with Sansa makes me happy... it's just a good ending all around
What if.......Sansa Married Joffery?! Tell us, oh amazing one! Gotta see if my fanfics match up XD
3:03 HISHE game of thrones season 1 simplest explanation of this what if scenario.
Philip Kinga oh shit😂 I just noticed that
What if arya didn't run a way with the hound
Excellent!!!
"run away with" lol
What if robert baratheon was a faithful man and lyanna ended up falling in love with him so that the rebellion never happened?
I love your videos man! If I could throw a suggestion out there for a versus video- Khal Drogo vs The Mountain? I'd love to hear your perspective on that hypothetical match! Thanks dude!
Option 1 sounds like the beginning of a great fanfiction.
Third possiblity. The hound kills merynn trant and blames jaufre's fallon him. Sansa then marries tommen.
OMG yes please
Doesn't make sense
Isabella Ortega the hound could say Merynn killed Joffrey in an act of rebellion so the hound killed him in response
1:25, In your 1st scenario, they Both would have gone over. (which would have been AWESOME) 👌
Now that I see this video again, you made a great multi-analysis
It would have been sweet to see Joffrey go splat. Another example of why it's named King's Landing.
what if eddard killed jaime lannister in s1?
That's an awesome one!!!
thx
Then the war between Lannister and Starks begins all the same because Ned would have still been killed.
I forgot how brutal game of thrones was 😭
I cant help but think that little finger would get involved. Less about morality and more about positioning and obsession
Did you do what if Aemon didn't stay as a maester and became king yet because that's where it all goes wrong
what if King aegon the V hatches the Dragon ans sommerhall doesnt burn down
Haha, that jaggofffff......
Good call!
What if the Starks never left Winterfell?😔
They should have never left Winterfell 🥺
You deserve a lot more subs
Thanks you Michael!!!!
I'm just doing the best work I can and hopefully the subs will come.
Michael Angelo eh
I think Robb would have found out after his mother gave away Jamie and then he would have moved on kings landing
Great video! I prefer the option of the Hound saving Sansa because we can't have any more Starks die
Why thank you! :)
I prefer that option, too...but alas it isn't likely :(
WHAT IF: sansa stays with tyrion in king's landing
If joffrey would've died from getting pushed, he never would've gotten roberts bastards killed so the gold cloaks wouldnt have gone after Gendry and yoren would've taken arya to winterfell.
I think you forgot one little thing, little finger! Of course littlefinger would tell the starks that they don’t have Arya, especially since the starks had twice the men the Lannister’s did. He would’ve told her when he dropped off Neds head.
I really like your "what if" Videos :3 it's so interesting to think about all these possibilitys! Keep up the great work :D
Well thank you DeadWings :)
I appreciate it my friend!
What is danerys drank the poison wine?
I've got a kind of double what if.
Basically what if Renly accepted Stannis' terms and him and his bannermen joined Stannis? How would this have affected the Tyrell's? Would they have stuck by Renly because of Loras or would they have left? (Unlikely I know)
At the same time what if the Lannister's accepted Robb's terms on the condition that he helped them fight off the now unified Baratheon brothers. (EXTREMELY unlikely, but that's what what ifs are for)
Who would the Tyrell's side with and who would come out the winner?
I am not sure if Jon would have died cause without Sansa there never had been the Battle of Bastard's. She forced him to take back Winterfell, he did not wanna fight again
Pretty sure Sansa would just tackle Joffrey like the Hound tackled the Mountain off that tower
what if bran was never born cause that is what caused this
or what if he didnt fall
Or how about: what if jaime and cersei's relationship was as a sibling relationship should be?
What if Catelyn kills Little finger when they meet at Renly's camp ?
What if Mace followed Olenna and keep neutral during the war?
What if Robb marched full force against Tywin instead of Jaime?
Wouldn't Arya be able to make it to Rob because the night's watch recruits she was travelling with wouldn't be stopped. Joffery was the one that ordered Roberts bastards to be killed so would Arya make it safely to Rob. This would mean Jaime would die and the Freys would be less less likely to make the red wedding happen. Especially with Rob not killing Lord Karstrak because his son wouldn't die due to Jaime.
as far as the whole arya thing goes. Since Joffery is no longer King the massacre of the bastards never happens, which means that the Nights Watch caravan is never attacked and continues to the wall in good order. At the pace they were going it's likely that Arya would have made it back to the Starks before the end of season 2 which possibly averts the Red Wedding since people like Roose Bolton and Walder Frey no longer see the Starks as being so weak (assuming that Sansa got executed) the Stark faction in now in possession of the sole valuable hostage.
Then sansa demands a trial by combat, and we had Gleganebowl .. :P
We even saw Little Finger try to put the moves on Catelyn after Ned's death, only to be resoundingly rejected.
I have a couple ideas for future What If Videos!
1. What if Jeor Mormont wasn't killed in the mutiny at Craster's Keep?
2. What if Ned Stark refused to become Hand of the King?
3. What if Stannis and Melisandre didn't kill Renly Baratheon?
Tyrion also never leaves Westeros when he's accused for Joffrey's murder. This means he never meets Daenerys and doesn't help run Mereen and deal with the slavers.
Why wouldn’t Little Finger have rescued Sansa from Cersei’s torture?
It wasn't Mag that died in Winterfell, it was Wun Wun
What if....Aegon I never invaded Westeros?
I think if Sansa did push Joffrey down and Cersei tormenting Sansa until she dies than the Starks would of tormented Jaime way worse especially Greywind Robb’s dire wolf would of been cutting and biting Jaime to pieces and the Starks would of send a message to the Lannister’s, eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, love one for a love one.
One that I got to think about is if Stannis and Renly made peace and Renly supported Stannis as King.
When we're this far into the series and the storylines are so intricate, I seriously wonder about how you can make sure that you mention everything that would supposedly be affected and not miss major plot points. Well done and as always good stuff!
Loved this video, though i disagree on one detail, with Sansa dead, I don't think Jon would die in battle, mainly because he wouldn't have gone to battle in the first place, he probably would have stayed in castle black and wouldn't have fought the boltons because, as you said, it was Sansa who convinced Jon of attacking Winterfell. This means that Azor ahai would be alive to fight the dead.
Thanks Traussio!
That's very possible. I mean I tend to think Jon probably would've HAD to fight for Winterfell at some point, but it would've been futile regardless. I can't argue with you too much on this point, haha. He certainly may not've fought at Winterfell for sure!
Thanks for commenting!!!
I asked for this way back. thanks for posting
Ah did you? I'm glad I could make it happen finally at least!
You're forgetting that Tyrion was blamed for jofferys death at the purple wedding. So if there's no purple wedding, there's no tyrion trial. No trial, then Tywin doesn't die, the spider stays at kings landing, tyrion stays with the Lannisters and never joins denerys.The hound would probably be killed for letting joffery die on his watch. Without the tension of the purple wedding, the destruction of the sept would probably never happen, changeing the series completely. No sept destruction means no Tommen suicide, meaning tommen lives as king with Tywin as his hand. And Lady stark wouldn't let Jamie go for the trade if an unconfirmed daughter, meaning he would probably die at the red wedding.
I don't know if anyone's stated this, but if word gets out that Sansa dies, even in a just killing, then Robb has to keep an even tighter grip on Jaime (who irrespective of this attempts to escape), because the one-for-one bargaining chips are even more important. Also, the real Arya's probably going to find out Sansa got killed, from rumors and such, and she might name Cersei to Jaqen or might have been taken straight to the Starks by Yoren.
>When Caitlyn herself died, Littlefinger was already looking to where he could play his next piece. Littlefinger would risk a lot to be with either Sansa or Caitlyn, partly because of desire and partly for the power either marriage would bring him, but Petyr would never act on revenge. He's too self-serving for that. Littlefinger would probably plot to save Sansa from a trial if she killed Joffrey but if she died he would simply move on.
> Sansa and the Hound would not escape the city after murdering the king and I doubt the Hound, being the realist he is, would even risk it. Sansa would end up on trial.
>The Lannisters wouldn't let the king die without justice, not even for Jamie.
>Tyrion would not have been antagonised by king joffery or put on trial so he would probably still be in kings landing which is another plus for house lannister
> the city would be more peaceful under Tommens rule. The faith would not have been as aggressive and tyrion would not have made the same mistakes as cersei.
> no trial for tyrion because of death of joffery, means tywin would not have been killed either so thats noteworthy. another reason why the faith militant wouldnt have happened.
> jamie might have died at the hands of the starks but he hasnt done much for the lannisters recently other than taking riverrun which tywin or tyrion could have done if they we're still playing for house lannister
>no mad queen
> less wildfire
>no dead tyrells
>no angry tyrells
> no angry martels because tyrions trial by combat didn't happen
basically house lannister would be ruling peacefully perhaps without jamie but with a few more allies and active house members. so no sansa, don't push him
What if the night king aimed for and killed the dragon Daenerys was riding instead of Visceryon.
I can see the Hound turning a blind eye to Sansa's murder of Joffrey. But I can't imagine he would join the Starks.
Robb Stark would possibly be alive. Jamie definitely doesn’t get freed by Catelyn after getting world of Sanaa’s death. The Karstark would eventually kill Jamie, and they remain loyal to Robb.
it's most likely that in his anger he would get the vale to side with robb when his army was in the riverlands as well as letting them know arya escaped the lanisters
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Saw this in my recommendations and clicked as quick as I could...
10/10 video
Would click again!
Hahahaha. Thank you StarDust! Highly appreciated my friend!!!!
When you're early for once 😂 it's so empty
Hahahaha
His blue eyes are mesmerising
Hey my man, what if; Sansa pushed Littlefinger out the Moon Door after Lysa? There's a change in game for you. Unless of course you've already done it and I just haven't seen it.
I think I noticed, What if - Brandon Stark killed Littlefinger instead of listening to Cat.
1. What if arya had been known to have escaped ?
2. what if Kat had convinced Lisa to raise her banners as well as rob
3. What if arya had let joffrey kill mika in her protection ? ( personal note I think that would of changed a lot )
4. What if robbert had found out about the twinsest before Cece had him killed
5.what if veres freed Ned from the black cells
6 ( and personal favourite right now ) what if rob had been forced to marry a fray the day of the crossing ?
7. What if peter told Kat that arya had escaped when he and she met in renlys war camp
8 . What if Sansa took the hounds offer of getting her out of kings landing during the seage
The Starks would ask for proof of life for Arya. So Jaime's death would only be temporarily delayed. They already thought it was strange that the there was no mention of Arya in Sansa's note. The lannisters would have no proof. Even if they came up with some b.s. I'm not sure it would work. If Sansa was killed I don't think Rob would be as patient with Jaime.
I wonder if Peter would tell Cat they don't have Arya as a way of regaining her trust. He is always a wildcard in the game of thrones.
3:15 cercei can't kill the queen
In my opinion, the Red Wedding most likely wouldn't have happened, because of the sequence of events that followed if Sansa dies:
- If Sansa dies, Catelyn most likely wouldn't free Jaime, meaning he would've been hauled off somewhere (most likely Riverrun)
-If Jaime is at Riverrun (or somewhere else), he doesn't kill Rickard Karstark's son, causing him to go mad and kill Lannister prisoners that the Starks had (Willem and Martyn)
-If Rickard Karstark doesn't kill Willem and Martyn, he doesn't get beheaded by Robb and the Karstark Army would stay loyal to the Starks
-If the Karstarks stay loyal, Robb doesn't have to grovel to the Freys (even though he betrayed them by marrying Talisa instead of Roslin)
-If Tywin finds out Jaime is being held captive at Riverrun, he probably wouldn't risk the Red Wedding
Sansa, as a noble lady, would be entitled to a trial whatever her father's loyalties and with the number of people who want her alive at this point--particularly Littlefinger--she'd probably be able to push for a trial by combat that she would win. The Crown would likely pick Sandor Clegane. I think Littlefinger's pick would be someone loyal to the Tullys or the Arryns. This is still around the time of Joffrey's nameday tourney, so there would be plenty of Knights for Petyr to choose from. Considering the type of man he is, he probably has already discovered a champion who could defeat Sandor Clegane in personal combat. With Jamie gone, people actually stand a chance in a trial by combat against the crown. Also at this point, Varys would want Sansa alive meaning she would be quite safe from assassins in the black cells (which he controls) possibly even coming up missing on the day of her trial. I see Sansa changing hands after killing Joffrey, but leaving King's Landing very much alive and very much sooner. I think in Varys's hands Sansa ends up safely in Essos under Illyrio's care until a more opportune time to deliver her to the North, or else going to the Tyrells. Littlefinger, I believe, would send her to the safety of the Eyrie until he's ready to continue with his plan.
I don't think you mentioned how Joffrey would've never ordered Robert's bastards executed, so Arya and Gendry would never have been taken to Harrenhal.
William Dalbey Yea! He didnt 😂