As a young boy growing up on a west Texas ranch in the 1940's the Stockman was the only knife I knew. My dad carried a large Case Stockman and, therefore, I carried one too. All of our hands also carried them. Those Cases were used daily for tasks ranging from daily chores to gutting and butchering whitetail deer, hogs and small game and fish. The spey blade was used frequently for what it was designed for with the young bulls in the herd (just thinking of it makes my mouth water for calf fries!). That style is still my favorite and the one I would always select. However, I have recently acquired a Rogers Sheffield Cattle from the late 19th Century that is now with me daily-what a remarkable piece of history. The original spear blade has been sharpened so much that it more nearly looks like a Wharncliff but it will still shave! Excellent video.
Buck 307 from Santa- Clause in 1976.......... I am now 60 and miraculously still have it. It is in safe keeping now (that comes with age) it has been lost 4 times twice in the bottom of furniture, once in a catfish pond (bottom) and one time in an old junk car that my brother owned. It has been a work horse from skinning deer to work on the farm. Since the side clip come along the Stockman knives are out of style. I need a good leather side sheath so I can use a Stockman again (Buck). If anyone knows a great sheath for a Stockman, I would like to purchase one. I have a lot of memories using this knife... Great Video... BUCK 307...... Regards... Confederate Heir, Kenneth Edward Tarver
I had an Old Timer (USA) made in my early twenties that I had carried for a few years. It was use practically every day and went every where with me. One day I came home and accidentally dropped it on the hardwood floor, and it literally exploded into several pieces. I was really disappointed about that. It felt like I lost an old friend, and did. I have gone through several brands and styles of knives since. It's fun to try different ones. 😁
I have always liked the stockman patterned knives… not because I work with cattle or on a ranch. I love having 3 different blade shapes so as to use the same knife for different everyday cutting tasks.
I just recently picked up a nice one by Case (review is coming soon) It just might make me re-think my top five favorite traditional pattern knives. Just not quite sure what it's going to knock off! There's a reason the pattern has been around for so long. Thanks for watching.
My dad always carried a buck stockman. Back when a man only had one knife. Why would anyone want more, afterall you can only use one at a time anyhow. Lol.
The Stockman, in my opinion is the perfect pocket knife. i have several in my collection and I love them in all of their varities with the serpentine being my favorite. In my humble opinion the best pocket knife ever made was the American made Buck 307 large serpentine stockman. It's a wonderful and well made knife. My EDC for well over 30 years however is an American made Old Timer 34OT middle man stockman. It carries well in the pocket being smaller than the 307 Buck and it is equal to any task that would be reasonably expected of any pocket knife. I know your opinion of the scales on the Old Tmer knives but I don't hold it against you, heck I feel about the same way with white smooth bone scales. Stockman knives? Yes please.
I think we need to start a movement to encourage the knife-makers to come out with a 3 3/4" CARBON STEEL (1095?) split mainspring Stockman pattern knife with flat ground clip point, Wharncliff and small pen blades. NO STAINLESS STEEL! I see no real use for the small spey blade found on many Stockman knives and would gladly substitute a Wharncliff blade for those times when a guy finds himself sitting on the front porch and whittlin'. The small pen blade is perfect for keeping the nails in shape and the big clip point blade for bigger chores. I'd love to have one (or more!) in my collection and I'm sure many others would, too!
When I was in the Scouts (British) I used to carry a small/medium Bowie From Rodgers of Sheffied that my father gave me , but when we were 'disarmed' in the late 1960s we switched to medium Stockmans, actually far more useful. A very good video.
I can see that. I've often found a small pocket knife more handy for many day to day chores than a larger fixed blade. Thansk for watchign and your observation.
Carried a stockman in my pocket from before i can remember until my mid twenties , then i got caught up in the tacticool stuff, but as i matured ive made my way back to case and buck etc.
I carry a Buck medium Stockman as my every day carry. Buck made one larger (Wrangler) and one smaller (Cadet). Those three will do anything. The jumbo for ranch, regular for ordinary work, and the cadet for a dress knife.
I’d have to say that the quintessential stockman would be the Old Timer 8ot or the Old timer 34ot for those that prefer a smaller carry . I believe that these two models were also the number one and number two all time best sellers for Schrade USA with the number one slot going to the 34ot .
The Blade types are Clip Point - Spey and Sheepsfoot .... the knife is named after Australian Stockmen ( Analagous to American Cowboys ) - these blades were the Aussie Bushcraft Blade for over 150yrs among my ancestors and were suited for all jobs required on the land. The Spey blade is for Neutering livestock safely without a sharp point to potentially cut an artery or other vital organs thus causing unwanted death to the animal. The Sheepsfoot had a similar purpose and is essentially a Safety Blade - excellent for carving or cutting materials and objects where care is needed when not wanting to pierce an item you are working on. The British Army Clasp Knife of WW2 were issued with the Sheepsfoot blade for this very reason and are superb carving blades. The Clip Point would cover all other activities where piercing the target ... ie skinning ... was acceptable.
Glad you enjoyed it. My next effort is going to be looking at its cousin, the Whittler. That's going to be a tad trickier. Some knife experts claim the Whittler isn't even a pattern!
Just yesterday I made a trade. And I'm getting the large Case stockman 6375! I'm so glad with this video! I am feeling very good about it now I've seen this video! Your opinion and history and specs information, really eases my mind! 🤩
Thanks for watching and I'm glad you found it informative. The Stockman is a very practical knife. I can see why so many people rate it highly among traditional pattern knives.
Great review of the Stockman/cattle knife! Your description as a "family of knives" is the best way I've heard them explained. The patterns are quite cool as you have so many choices. It is one of the most important traditional knife patterns IMO as there is quite a bit of history, like the Scout and Barlow patterns. Thank you for another great traditional knife history lesson!
I was raised on a hog farm, so always carried a stockman for the spey blade. Just gave my large Buck Stockman to my son last week. Miss it now even though I have plenty of modern folders.
I can’t believe I did not comment on my favorite pattern. Great history lesson with fine examples. I have several stockmans but my favorite is a Case 6347 in Amber jigged bone my wife bought me for Christmas several years ago when the cost of the knife was a stretch to our budget. It will always be my favorite but hasn’t kept me from adding more to the collection.
Excellent history video. The stockman is my favorite knife pattern. I also love a sod buster for a work knife. I am carrying a case medium stockman 3318 with yellow scales and cv steel. I modified the long clip point into a wharnclife which is better suited for whittling. I also do not hunt anymore so I do not have any need for a Spey blade. I modified my Spey blade into a coping blade and I keep that blade extra sharp and rarely use it. The Sheepsfoot blade is a perfect working blade shape so I leave that one. For my uses it is the perfect knife with about 5 minutes of modifications to the blades. I love a 3 5/8 stockman. It just feels good in the hand for whittling and carving. I like square bolsters and round.
Just picked up a serpentine Schatt & Morgan #49 Large Stockman Orange Burl (4-3/8"). I also have a 3-1/2" sleeveboard with a punch and cocobolo covers, and a 3-1/2" equal end with a spey and autumn gold jigged bone covers. I like multi-blades. But so far, haven't ventured into four or five blades. Maybe a camp knife someday. A good presentation. Thanks.
Another great video. You've got a nice selection of Stockman's in your group. I carried an original Uncle Henry's 3 5/8" Stockman for almost 40 years. It served me well and has since been handed down to my daughter. I've found, for my own particular needs, a Stockman pattern-knife will cover just about any situation I'm likely to come against in my daily travels.
gemstateguy, I know what you mean. I need to find a decent made one with a sheepfoot and punch at a decent price. I can easily see it being my choice for EDC. Thanks for watching. Also, I think it’s fantastic that you were able to pass down your EDC to your daughter.
my first knife was old timer small stockman, used it many a time in early 1970s to castrate our bull calves on the farm. also have a uncle Henry stockman small from same era, just got a new medium case stockman, have a soft spot for the stockman.
Really liked the video. I find it fascinating how a knife or different blades can make up a knife. Not only that but all the different frame types. I hope to find more history related videos on the channel. Love the way you present the material as well.
Nice video and great overview of the stockman family. What I love about stockmans is how versatile they are and how many varieties they come in. All of my stockmans are the standard configuration--the clip-point, sheepsfoot and spey blade, which I like because one of those three will work most tasks. Of the one's I have, I think I prefer the medium to large ones. For smaller knives, I prefer single or two blade patterns, like a barlow.
Very good video! I have three Case Stockmans, One of each size, my father has two of the large stockmans and I agree that they are a family of knives that change over time. I personally would like to see a Case Large Stockman with the Spay blade replaced with a pair of scissors. I currently carry a Victorinox Pioneer X because the scissors and punch are very handy while Im doing things in a days time but I love the clip point and sheepsfoot blade on the stockman line.
Boker USA 98185 ; I was gifted this 3 bladed knife,as someone who usually carries a Gerber 06 Auto and a CS 6" Ti - lite ; it is quite the change. What year was the Boker USA 98185? Anything you can share would be much appreciated. 😄
I've always been more into modern folders and fixed blades, but recently have become interested in traditional style knives, so your videos are very helpful to me. So far, I only have a few of them, couple saks, a Buck 110, and a couple cheaper no name ones, but recently picked up a beautiful aqua camel bone GEC Toothpick, which I've fallen in love with. I'm definitely going to get a stockman, and likely at least one if not more of each of the different styles.
I have a small, medium and large stockman. The medium gets used the most because it is very pocket friendly but big enough to be usefull. Will get one in a better quality one day.
Lars Buskkraft, I tend to agree with you. A medium stockman is probably the best choice for EDC these days. I think the large stockmans are probably more useful for an actual ranch hand ( don’t know for sure as I don’t work on a ranch.). Thanks for watching and thanks for your thoughts and opinions on the Stockman
Really interesting video 😁 as an Englishman who collects traditional knives I am fairly ignorant of the beginnings of most of these knife patterns and this type of info really helps 👍😁 please continue with such great content
I grew up on a ranch in SE NM my grandpa gave me a Boker medium stockman when I was 13yrs old just like one he and my dad edc I felt like a man it was cool now I carry edc a leathermen 300 with a 3-1\2 fix blade and still on the ranch
.... Just found this great video, so informative! .... I'm not a collector as such, I have 16 knives, all of which are used at some point, .... perhaps surprisingly my 2 favourites are the least expensive 2, ... an Opinel carbon no.8, ... and my very favourite is a Rough Rider carbon classic yellow sowbelly which is a fantastic everyday knife.
Dad pretty much always carried a small stockman when I was a kid. I never really understood what all the different blades were for. I'm not sure if he knew what their intended purposes were, but he would use them for different things. He'd usually use the sheepsfoot for stripping wire. I usually carry an auto opener just for convenience. Good thing about living in a free state I suppose. I have a Boker Kalashnikov I carry at work and a Boker Strike I carry on my own time. I've had a few auto opening Benchmades I've lost. But I have several stockmans of various sizes. The stockman is still the first thing that comes to mind when I hear "pocket knife."
Great review and history lesson! Really enjoyed watching it. My collection of traditional pocket cutlery is growing, and I carry one or two traditionals every day, but I don't have a stockman. I may have to do something about that. Thank you for sharing. 👍
After doing this video, I've really had second thoughts on my top five slipjoints. I just don't know which one I'm going to kick off the list. Glad you enjoyed the video. For me, the stockman, not the Trapper, is the true American Workhorse knife! It really come down to the blade options, which can be quite varied. Thanks for watching. I appreciate your input.
The Canoe is really gaining in popularity. I think Case introduced it back in the 1920's and just kind of laid their like a dead fish. And then again in the 1960's they pushed it hard but it just would find the sales they had hoped for. But then Frost and other companies started selling them for cheap and there has been no looking back. It remains a constant steady seller. The Canoe is really a great knife for the pocket.
My EDC is a CASE medium stockman in chestnut jig.It has square bolsters and chrome vanadium blades.It has a spear blade,a sheep foot blade,and a pen blade.You really can’t go wrong with a CASE for an everyday use knife.They are also very beautiful.All my friends want to trade knives with me.Does anybody trade knives anymore?
Case is catching a lot of flak these days,much of it unjust. Stockmans make for a great everyday carry and you are correct. You can't go wrong with a Case. As for knife swapping, I know there are few folks out there that do it but it isn't like it used to be. Swap meets are more often than not "Buy and Sell"
@@KnifeChatswithTobias It well a very unique knife I mean, I'm always looking forward to trying new types of food, like I found out maple syrup is just honey so why not, still if I can cut open and skin a rabbit with my first pocket knife then why not get one.
The sheepsfoot was used for saddle/tack repair and cutting leather. If you've ever seen a leather plane (a tool used for cutting leather into strips) the blade in it is a sheepsfoot.
Very informative about the evolution of the stockman knife. In my ignorance I thought they were all just pocket knives, nice to find out the different blade types and uses. It did occur to me that cleaning a cattle hoof and cutting your chewing tobacco with the same blade might be seen as unhygienic in today’s world. 😄
A "Stockman" is varied like the cowboy independent and free thinking. I like. The spear point, sheep shank, and spay, on a large (5 inch) frame. I also carry a hobo knife and a Buck 110 lockblade folder.
I'm not sure which one you mean. Was it the Backwoods Bushcrafter (Black blades and a sawcut bone handle) or the Moonshiner Sowbelly with the blade etch and corncob jig bone, or some other Stockman. Can you approximate the time in the video.
April 9, 1865. One digit off at (2:13). Obvious typo error, but I don't want our non-American subscribers to think we were killing each other that recently. LOL
Good info. I have a Marbles sowbelly, and the blades don’t open out straight, but curve downward. Is this a common variation? It looks weird, but handy for hard work.
The standard stockman is 3 and 5/8 with clip spey and sheepfoot blades the pattern became popular not because shefeild needed to find a knife to sell its because cattle movement increased and ranches became larger the ranch workers needed their own knife that could be easily carried
I guess I could've phrased things better. The early cattle knives were made in Sheffield. From what I understand the pattern was developed for the American market with input from the cattle industry. The cattle knife evolved into the Stockman. As for the standard, I think you will have plenty of people who will argue with both your blade choices and size. That might be the standard for one company but not for other makers.
Can a stockman have just two blades? I’m trying to pin down what this one is that I inherited from a grandfather. It has a large clip blade and a smaller spade, both of them on the same end of the knife. The body type appears to be a stockman. It’s made by Colonial and the tang says COLONIAL PROV USA.
i also wish rough ryder made more knives with tools like scissors and pliers. i'm a swiss army collector and just started getting into rough rider. i want more little tools, especially a little saw on 2.5 inch and 3.5 inch knives would be so cool.
All I'm aware of in the Blue moon Series is a Large Frame Trapper, Sowbelly, Moose, Trapper, and Five inch lockback. Its a shame they didn't do more in the series. I heard them talking about putting scissors on knives and they said scissors and saws were very difficult to get correct on pocket knives and there was just no way to do it and compete with Victorinox in pricing -- even with a knife comoing out of China! I think they did make a small "Mechanic" knife with pliers, but that might have been made by Marble's I cant remember. The Marble's Flyfisher has a decent pair of scissors!
@@KnifeChatswithTobias Yeah i've seen the rough rider mechanic with the pliers and i want it! one of my favorite swiss army knives is the mechanic junior, a rare two layer knife with pliers. nothing beats those victorinox pliers for getting out a massive splinter! i have almost every victornox/wenger i could want, so i decided to start collecting rough rider. i have some issues with rough rider which makes me hesitant to keep collecting them. first off all, they come filthy with black manufacturing grit all in the knife. i have to clean them for 15 minutes with toothpicks and q tips. i wish they would clean their parts before assembly. i also have blade wobble on around half the knives i have received by rough rider. i also notice the dye in the blade handles rubs off easily with a wet paper towel, after cleaning them multiple times with soap. i wish there was a way to not have the dye bleed on your hands. i know these issues are small, but after spending around $205 on rough rider knives, i might have to call it quits. as for Marbles, the only knife by them i own is a folding Cheetah clone, MR109. I also own a Case Cheetah with black synthetic handles. my marbles cheetah is very sturdy and has zero blade wobble, but the swing guard on it is not nearly as tight as on my Case Cheetah. my marbles handle also bleeds the color dye on wet paper towels. perhaps this is standard with bone handled knives, i don't know, i'm used to only swiss army scales. i looked up the marbles fly fisherman and i like it, i might pick one up.
I like Case quite a bit. It is one of my favorite brands. Do they have Quality Control issues? Yes, but it does seem to be getting addresses. The flip side of the coin is some people expect perfection where perfection is impossible.
More the general layout of the blades. A stock man will almost always have two blades on top and one of the bottom. Jack knives might have any number of blades but traditionally all the blades are on the one end; at least in America. The name Jack Knife started life as slang for a British Sailor's knife. "Jack" was also British slang for "Laborer"
It's hard to really hate the stockman/cattle knife pattern, but I have just come to find I won't use all 3 blades. The clip and sheepsfoot blades are really all I end up using, so a stockman is just not that useful for me.
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@@KnifeChatswithTobias yessir. That is true. I guess I was referring to the full sized giants. Also, larger knives can be put in a belt case or slip, so size really isn't (or shouldn't be) a deal breaker.
I've heard the reason Case promotes the Trapper so heavily is because it is easier to build and it has the long blades that give plenty of space for etches when making commemorative knives. To me the stockman makes more sense for an actual useful knife.
Absolutely! If I gave the impressions that Sheffield was relying on sales to the US for existence, my apologies. This was during the reign of Queen Victoria. And as the saying went, "The sun never sets on the British Empire." At the time Britain pretty much controlled the seas as well as the global economy. The United States was in the process of rebuilding after a devastating Civil War and was still very much a minor player on the global stage, even it's dealing in the Western Hemisphere! Sheffield was the biggest market for knives in the US, followed probably by Solingen. Several US importers were relying on Europe for goods. We had raw materials but the ability to actually manufacture goods cheaply had not really developed yet. Our textile industry was probably doing quite well. We also had a very promising industrial belt forming in the North East but we were far from an industry powerhouse. America's knife industry was just in its infancy. It would take heavy tarriffs on imported goods to finally give the local industries a chance to compete with low priced goods coming from Europe.
Check out Rasputin's Castle for his take on the Stockman Knife: ua-cam.com/video/6o59xVtkm8Q/v-deo.htmlsi=9HVGuIrWa9oMVanp
As a young boy growing up on a west Texas ranch in the 1940's the Stockman was the only knife I knew. My dad carried a large Case Stockman and, therefore, I carried one too. All of our hands also carried them. Those Cases were used daily for tasks ranging from daily chores to gutting and butchering whitetail deer, hogs and small game and fish. The spey blade was used frequently for what it was designed for with the young bulls in the herd (just thinking of it makes my mouth water for calf fries!).
That style is still my favorite and the one I would always select. However, I have recently acquired a Rogers Sheffield Cattle from the late 19th Century that is now with me daily-what a remarkable piece of history. The original spear blade has been sharpened so much that it more nearly looks like a Wharncliff but it will still shave!
Excellent video.
Thanks for watching and thanks for sharing your experience with the knife and how it was intended to be used!
The large stockman is my favorite and currently the USA made Schrade 8OT (carbon steel) is my #1.
Buck 307 from Santa- Clause in 1976.......... I am now 60 and miraculously still have it. It is in safe keeping now (that comes with age) it has been lost 4 times twice in the bottom of furniture, once in a catfish pond (bottom) and one time in an old junk car that my brother owned. It has been a work horse from skinning deer to work on the farm. Since the side clip come along the Stockman knives are out of style. I need a good leather side sheath so I can use a Stockman again (Buck). If anyone knows a great sheath for a Stockman, I would like to purchase one. I have a lot of memories using this knife... Great Video... BUCK 307...... Regards... Confederate Heir, Kenneth Edward Tarver
An amazing history lesson on the stockman. Very comprehensive and detailed. Thank you so much for the education!!
I had an Old Timer (USA) made in my early twenties that I had carried for a few years. It was use practically every day and went every where with me. One day I came home and accidentally dropped it on the hardwood floor, and it literally exploded into several pieces. I was really disappointed about that. It felt like I lost an old friend, and did.
I have gone through several brands and styles of knives since. It's fun to try different ones. 😁
Case knives are awesome . Stockman knives are traditionally carried by farmers in the United States
Thank you-I know the stockman well. Grew up on a farm back in the day when the stockman was used every day, several times a day!
I think the stockman is more useful than the trapper, and is probably one of the most useful of the common designs.
The Stockman is normally what comes to mind when I think "Pocket Knife." That and the Barlow.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias I concur with the Barlow. 👍
I agree, I think the Trapper would do a lot better if it had a Warnclift blade instead of the long spay blade.
Brilliant! Thanks.
The BEST video on the Stockman knife on the Internet! You sir, are a treasure!!
Thank you. I'm not sure how i missed you comment. Appreciate the kind words.
I have always liked the stockman patterned knives… not because I work with cattle or on a ranch. I love having 3 different blade shapes so as to use the same knife for different everyday cutting tasks.
Nice review of the Stockman, my Dad always carried a Schrade stockman, :)
I just recently picked up a nice one by Case (review is coming soon) It just might make me re-think my top five favorite traditional pattern knives. Just not quite sure what it's going to knock off! There's a reason the pattern has been around for so long. Thanks for watching.
The early Schrade knives were of superb quality.
My dad always carried a buck stockman. Back when a man only had one knife. Why would anyone want more, afterall you can only use one at a time anyhow. Lol.
My daily carry is a Case yellow handle medium stockman. Serves me well, I love CV steel. The date stamp places it between 2000-2009.
Good choice!
Same here.
I’m apart of that club and a yellow derlin case trapper both 70 and 1980 good tase man
The Stockman, in my opinion is the perfect pocket knife. i have several in my collection and I love them in all of their varities with the serpentine being my favorite. In my humble opinion the best pocket knife ever made was the American made Buck 307 large serpentine stockman. It's a wonderful and well made knife. My EDC for well over 30 years however is an American made Old Timer 34OT middle man stockman. It carries well in the pocket being smaller than the 307 Buck and it is equal to any task that would be reasonably expected of any pocket knife.
I know your opinion of the scales on the Old Tmer knives but I don't hold it against you, heck I feel about the same way with white smooth bone scales.
Stockman knives? Yes please.
Love your shows
I think we need to start a movement to encourage the knife-makers to come out with a 3 3/4" CARBON STEEL (1095?) split mainspring Stockman pattern knife with flat ground clip point, Wharncliff and small pen blades. NO STAINLESS STEEL!
I see no real use for the small spey blade found on many Stockman knives and would gladly substitute a Wharncliff blade for those times when a guy finds himself sitting on the front porch and whittlin'. The small pen blade is perfect for keeping the nails in shape and the big clip point blade for bigger chores.
I'd love to have one (or more!) in my collection and I'm sure many others would, too!
Take a look at rough rider, they came out with a nice one not long ago
When I was in the Scouts (British) I used to carry a small/medium Bowie From Rodgers of Sheffied that my father gave me , but when we were 'disarmed' in the late 1960s we switched to medium Stockmans, actually far more useful.
A very good video.
I can see that. I've often found a small pocket knife more handy for many day to day chores than a larger fixed blade. Thansk for watchign and your observation.
Thank you Tobias for the great history lesson on the Stockman.
Glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watching.
Carried a stockman in my pocket from before i can remember until my mid twenties , then i got caught up in the tacticool stuff, but as i matured ive made my way back to case and buck etc.
I carry a Buck medium Stockman as my every day carry. Buck made one larger (Wrangler) and one smaller (Cadet). Those three will do anything. The jumbo for ranch, regular for ordinary work, and the cadet for a dress knife.
Outstanding video. The best I have seen yet as of 4.30.2024
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Wonderful video!
Very interesting video, thanks for sharing
Really enjoyed the story behind the Stockman. Also liking stockman collection you have Tobias. That was another great video keepem coming.
Dear sir, your video is very instructive. Very interesting video. All the best!
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I’d have to say that the quintessential stockman would be the Old Timer 8ot or the Old timer 34ot for those that prefer a smaller carry .
I believe that these two models were also the number one and number two all time best sellers for Schrade USA with the number one slot going to the 34ot .
The Blade types are Clip Point - Spey and Sheepsfoot .... the knife is named after Australian Stockmen ( Analagous to American Cowboys ) - these blades were the Aussie Bushcraft Blade for over 150yrs among my ancestors and were suited for all jobs required on the land. The Spey blade is for Neutering livestock safely without a sharp point to potentially cut an artery or other vital organs thus causing unwanted death to the animal. The Sheepsfoot had a similar purpose and is essentially a Safety Blade - excellent for carving or cutting materials and objects where care is needed when not wanting to pierce an item you are working on. The British Army Clasp Knife of WW2 were issued with the Sheepsfoot blade for this very reason and are superb carving blades. The Clip Point would cover all other activities where piercing the target ... ie skinning ... was acceptable.
the sheepsfoot on my mariner knofe is my favorite carving blade
Thanks for the review of stockman knives
Glad you enjoyed it. My next effort is going to be looking at its cousin, the Whittler. That's going to be a tad trickier. Some knife experts claim the Whittler isn't even a pattern!
Just yesterday I made a trade. And I'm getting the large Case stockman 6375! I'm so glad with this video! I am feeling very good about it now I've seen this video! Your opinion and history and specs information, really eases my mind! 🤩
My favorite stockman knife is the Old Timer
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Excellent, another history lesson.
Thank you,
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Great story and information mate, really enjoyed. Thanks for you time appreciate it. Atb paddy 👍☘️😀
paddys potato peelers, thanks! Always appreciate your thoughts. Love your channel as well.
Thank you for such a detailed video. Stockman is my second favorite pattern.
Thanks for watching and I'm glad you found it informative. The Stockman is a very practical knife. I can see why so many people rate it highly among traditional pattern knives.
O.K.... we want to know! What's your favorite, Steve ?
gemstateguy
Congress. Especially one with two main sheepsfoot blades.
Have you seen my video about the Congress Pattern? ua-cam.com/video/whywU9GUAwk/v-deo.html
I picked up a smaller stockman and it was a B.M.W from solingen! I've never seen one before!
That's pretty cool!
Great review of the Stockman/cattle knife! Your description as a "family of knives" is the best way I've heard them explained. The patterns are quite cool as you have so many choices. It is one of the most important traditional knife patterns IMO as there is quite a bit of history, like the Scout and Barlow patterns. Thank you for another great traditional knife history lesson!
JJ Cahill, thanks JJ. It’s a fantastic pattern with a great history. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks, as always for your support of this channel.
I was raised on a hog farm, so always carried a stockman for the spey blade. Just gave my large Buck Stockman to my son last week. Miss it now even though I have plenty of modern folders.
Ouch !
Had to have it in my collection, love once again all the different takes on it
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I can’t believe I did not comment on my favorite pattern. Great history lesson with fine examples. I have several stockmans but my favorite is a Case 6347 in Amber jigged bone my wife bought me for Christmas several years ago when the cost of the knife was a stretch to our budget. It will always be my favorite but hasn’t kept me from adding more to the collection.
Very cool stockmans. Thank you very much for sharing this video
Excellent history video. The stockman is my favorite knife pattern. I also love a sod buster for a work knife. I am carrying a case medium stockman 3318 with yellow scales and cv steel. I modified the long clip point into a wharnclife which is better suited for whittling. I also do not hunt anymore so I do not have any need for a Spey blade. I modified my Spey blade into a coping blade and I keep that blade extra sharp and rarely use it. The Sheepsfoot blade is a perfect working blade shape so I leave that one. For my uses it is the perfect knife with about 5 minutes of modifications to the blades. I love a 3 5/8 stockman. It just feels good in the hand for whittling and carving. I like square bolsters and round.
Well done. I learned a lot!
Another great well researched video.👍
Thanks, David. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for dropping by and thanks for your input.
Videos like these brought me to your channel
Glad you found it. Tanks for all your support!
That case is my daily carry in carbon. LOVE IT!
Just picked up a serpentine Schatt & Morgan #49 Large Stockman Orange Burl (4-3/8"). I also have a 3-1/2" sleeveboard with a punch and cocobolo covers, and a 3-1/2" equal end with a spey and autumn gold jigged bone covers. I like multi-blades. But so far, haven't ventured into four or five blades. Maybe a camp knife someday. A good presentation. Thanks.
Another great video. You've got a nice selection of Stockman's in your group. I carried an original Uncle Henry's 3 5/8" Stockman for almost 40 years. It served me well and has since been handed down to my daughter. I've found, for my own particular needs, a Stockman pattern-knife will cover just about any situation I'm likely to come against in my daily travels.
gemstateguy, I know what you mean. I need to find a decent made one with a sheepfoot and punch at a decent price. I can easily see it being my choice for EDC. Thanks for watching. Also, I think it’s fantastic that you were able to pass down your EDC to your daughter.
my first knife was old timer small stockman, used it many a time in early 1970s to castrate our bull calves on the farm. also have a uncle Henry stockman small from same era, just got a new medium case stockman, have a soft spot for the stockman.
Really liked the video. I find it fascinating how a knife or different blades can make up a knife. Not only that but all the different frame types. I hope to find more history related videos on the channel. Love the way you present the material as well.
Nice video and great overview of the stockman family. What I love about stockmans is how versatile they are and how many varieties they come in. All of my stockmans are the standard configuration--the clip-point, sheepsfoot and spey blade, which I like because one of those three will work most tasks. Of the one's I have, I think I prefer the medium to large ones. For smaller knives, I prefer single or two blade patterns, like a barlow.
One, if not the most, informative knife videos i've seen . Thank you, you taught me a lot.
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Very good video!
I have three Case Stockmans, One of each size, my father has two of the large stockmans and I agree that they are a family of knives that change over time. I personally would like to see a Case Large Stockman with the Spay blade replaced with a pair of scissors. I currently carry a Victorinox Pioneer X because the scissors and punch are very handy while Im doing things in a days time but I love the clip point and sheepsfoot blade on the stockman line.
I think a pair of scissors on a Stockman might actually prove more useful in this day and age, even in some rural areas.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias I agree, I lived on a farm for 27 years and I know that I would have used scissors far more than a spay.
Fascinating content, thank you.
Boker USA 98185 ; I was gifted this 3 bladed knife,as someone who usually carries a Gerber 06 Auto and a CS 6" Ti - lite ; it is quite the change. What year was the Boker USA 98185? Anything you can share would be much appreciated. 😄
I like the large stockman knives I own several of them.
I've always been more into modern folders and fixed blades, but recently have become interested in traditional style knives, so your videos are very helpful to me. So far, I only have a few of them, couple saks, a Buck 110, and a couple cheaper no name ones, but recently picked up a beautiful aqua camel bone GEC Toothpick, which I've fallen in love with. I'm definitely going to get a stockman, and likely at least one if not more of each of the different styles.
Timbo437, thanks for the kind words. I’m glad you’re finding the videos useful. That GEC toothpick sounds really great. Hard to go wrong with a GEC!
I have a small, medium and large stockman. The medium gets used the most because it is very pocket friendly but big enough to be usefull. Will get one in a better quality one day.
Lars Buskkraft, I tend to agree with you. A medium stockman is probably the best choice for EDC these days. I think the large stockmans are probably more useful for an actual ranch hand ( don’t know for sure as I don’t work on a ranch.).
Thanks for watching and thanks for your thoughts and opinions on the Stockman
Really interesting video 😁 as an Englishman who collects traditional knives I am fairly ignorant of the beginnings of most of these knife patterns and this type of info really helps 👍😁 please continue with such great content
glad you found it helpful!
I grew up on a ranch in SE NM my grandpa gave me a Boker medium stockman when I was 13yrs old just like one he and my dad edc I felt like a man it was cool now I carry edc a leathermen 300 with a 3-1\2 fix blade and still on the ranch
.... Just found this great video, so informative! .... I'm not a collector as such, I have 16 knives, all of which are used at some point, .... perhaps surprisingly my 2 favourites are the least expensive 2, ... an Opinel carbon no.8, ... and my very favourite is a Rough Rider carbon classic yellow sowbelly which is a fantastic everyday knife.
The case pattern 75 stockman is my favorite slipjoint pattern.
It's a good one!
Dad pretty much always carried a small stockman when I was a kid. I never really understood what all the different blades were for. I'm not sure if he knew what their intended purposes were, but he would use them for different things. He'd usually use the sheepsfoot for stripping wire. I usually carry an auto opener just for convenience. Good thing about living in a free state I suppose. I have a Boker Kalashnikov I carry at work and a Boker Strike I carry on my own time. I've had a few auto opening Benchmades I've lost. But I have several stockmans of various sizes. The stockman is still the first thing that comes to mind when I hear "pocket knife."
Great review and history lesson!
Really enjoyed watching it. My collection of traditional pocket cutlery is growing, and I carry one or two traditionals every day, but I don't have a stockman. I may have to do something about that.
Thank you for sharing. 👍
After doing this video, I've really had second thoughts on my top five slipjoints. I just don't know which one I'm going to kick off the list. Glad you enjoyed the video. For me, the stockman, not the Trapper, is the true American Workhorse knife! It really come down to the blade options, which can be quite varied. Thanks for watching. I appreciate your input.
Good vid great job.i prefer the canoe design.but all the slip joints are great👍🇺🇸
The Canoe is really gaining in popularity. I think Case introduced it back in the 1920's and just kind of laid their like a dead fish. And then again in the 1960's they pushed it hard but it just would find the sales they had hoped for. But then Frost and other companies started selling them for cheap and there has been no looking back. It remains a constant steady seller. The Canoe is really a great knife for the pocket.
I like the Gunboat Canoe that has three blades, like a stockman! With a spear point main blade.
My EDC is a CASE medium stockman in chestnut jig.It has square bolsters and chrome vanadium blades.It has a spear blade,a sheep foot blade,and a pen blade.You really can’t go wrong with a CASE for an everyday use knife.They are also very beautiful.All my friends want to trade knives with me.Does anybody trade knives anymore?
Case is catching a lot of flak these days,much of it unjust. Stockmans make for a great everyday carry and you are correct. You can't go wrong with a Case. As for knife swapping, I know there are few folks out there that do it but it isn't like it used to be. Swap meets are more often than not "Buy and Sell"
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Great info thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it! Love your channel. Thanks for dropping by.
Definitely getting myself a Case Bone Large Stockman, very gentlemen blade, was never a fan of more the one blades but times change
Alexandru von Carstein Zarovich, you are correct, sir Times do change. I’m gaining a new respect for the Stockman as well.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias It well a very unique knife I mean, I'm always looking forward to trying new types of food, like I found out maple syrup is just honey so why not, still if I can cut open and skin a rabbit with my first pocket knife then why not get one.
The sheepsfoot was used for saddle/tack repair and cutting leather. If you've ever seen a leather plane (a tool used for cutting leather into strips) the blade in it is a sheepsfoot.
Thanks! Cool bit of information. Always learning!
Very informative about the evolution of the stockman knife. In my ignorance I thought they were all just pocket knives, nice to find out the different blade types and uses. It did occur to me that cleaning a cattle hoof and cutting your chewing tobacco with the same blade might be seen as unhygienic in today’s world. 😄
A "Stockman" is varied like the cowboy independent and free thinking. I like. The spear point, sheep shank, and spay, on a large (5 inch) frame. I also carry a hobo knife and a Buck 110 lockblade folder.
Great video! Love my stockmans. Which model is the Rough Ryder with the low spay blade?
I'm not sure which one you mean. Was it the Backwoods Bushcrafter (Black blades and a sawcut bone handle) or the Moonshiner Sowbelly with the blade etch and corncob jig bone, or some other Stockman. Can you approximate the time in the video.
I carry a Buck 301 from '86. Spey clip and sheepsfoot. but i also prefer my Buck 309 Companion pen knife or my 110.
Buck Knives are nothing to sneeze at. There's a lot more to Buck than just the 110!
@@KnifeChatswithTobias I collect bucks, my favorite are the 300 & 700 series of slip joints
April 9, 1865. One digit off at (2:13). Obvious typo error, but I don't want our non-American subscribers to think we were killing each other that recently. LOL
my favorite stockman knife is The large round bolster variety.
Good info. I have a Marbles sowbelly, and the blades don’t open out straight, but curve downward. Is this a common variation? It looks weird, but handy for hard work.
The standard stockman is 3 and 5/8 with clip spey and sheepfoot blades the pattern became popular not because shefeild needed to find a knife to sell its because cattle movement increased and ranches became larger the ranch workers needed their own knife that could be easily carried
I guess I could've phrased things better. The early cattle knives were made in Sheffield. From what I understand the pattern was developed for the American market with input from the cattle industry. The cattle knife evolved into the Stockman. As for the standard, I think you will have plenty of people who will argue with both your blade choices and size. That might be the standard for one company but not for other makers.
Hello Tobias.
I'm watching for a stockman from spain. I have thoth in case medium stckman patrtn 32. Do you like it?
Can a stockman have just two blades? I’m trying to pin down what this one is that I inherited from a grandfather. It has a large clip blade and a smaller spade, both of them on the same end of the knife. The body type appears to be a stockman. It’s made by Colonial and the tang says COLONIAL PROV USA.
Sheep blade was also used for castrating bull calves
Ouch !
i wish i could find more styles with the blue bone and moon badge. all that is available is the trapper.
i also wish rough ryder made more knives with tools like scissors and pliers. i'm a swiss army collector and just started getting into rough rider. i want more little tools, especially a little saw on 2.5 inch and 3.5 inch knives would be so cool.
All I'm aware of in the Blue moon Series is a Large Frame Trapper, Sowbelly, Moose, Trapper, and Five inch lockback. Its a shame they didn't do more in the series.
I heard them talking about putting scissors on knives and they said scissors and saws were very difficult to get correct on pocket knives and there was just no way to do it and compete with Victorinox in pricing -- even with a knife comoing out of China! I think they did make a small "Mechanic" knife with pliers, but that might have been made by Marble's I cant remember. The Marble's Flyfisher has a decent pair of scissors!
@@KnifeChatswithTobias Yeah i've seen the rough rider mechanic with the pliers and i want it! one of my favorite swiss army knives is the mechanic junior, a rare two layer knife with pliers. nothing beats those victorinox pliers for getting out a massive splinter! i have almost every victornox/wenger i could want, so i decided to start collecting rough rider. i have some issues with rough rider which makes me hesitant to keep collecting them. first off all, they come filthy with black manufacturing grit all in the knife. i have to clean them for 15 minutes with toothpicks and q tips. i wish they would clean their parts before assembly. i also have blade wobble on around half the knives i have received by rough rider. i also notice the dye in the blade handles rubs off easily with a wet paper towel, after cleaning them multiple times with soap. i wish there was a way to not have the dye bleed on your hands. i know these issues are small, but after spending around $205 on rough rider knives, i might have to call it quits.
as for Marbles, the only knife by them i own is a folding Cheetah clone, MR109. I also own a Case Cheetah with black synthetic handles. my marbles cheetah is very sturdy and has zero blade wobble, but the swing guard on it is not nearly as tight as on my Case Cheetah. my marbles handle also bleeds the color dye on wet paper towels. perhaps this is standard with bone handled knives, i don't know, i'm used to only swiss army scales. i looked up the marbles fly fisherman and i like it, i might pick one up.
Wonderful!
Do you prefer case?
I like Case quite a bit. It is one of my favorite brands. Do they have Quality Control issues? Yes, but it does seem to be getting addresses. The flip side of the coin is some people expect perfection where perfection is impossible.
Wonder if this also goes in the whole hunters blade class,
That's a good point. There are quite a few large knives that are all called "folding hunters" of some type or another.
I wish they had a slightly larger stockman actually.
I think Rough Rider make some that 4.25 inches and even one that is 5 inches
Is it the number of blades that constitute a stockman vs a jack?
More the general layout of the blades. A stock man will almost always have two blades on top and one of the bottom. Jack knives might have any number of blades but traditionally all the blades are on the one end; at least in America. The name Jack Knife started life as slang for a British Sailor's knife. "Jack" was also British slang for "Laborer"
@@KnifeChatswithTobias thanks for the info, I love history and the reasoning.
It's hard to really hate the stockman/cattle knife pattern, but I have just come to find I won't use all 3 blades.
The clip and sheepsfoot blades are really all I end up using, so a stockman is just not that useful for me.
I tend to agree with you. I'd prefer a punch over the spay and this is why I often end up with a Camp knife over a Stockman.
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Serious lack of Case knives in your collection. The Case 6318 is probably the most popular medium Stockman around and it’s made in the USA
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dad always had a premium stockman { schrade } for ground hog hunting.
I don't own a Stockman--yet.
If you are a suave urbanite like me (that's a joke) this pattern in a tad large.
There are stockman knives that are under 3 inches long closed. The sice and variety within the family of stockman knives is enormous.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias yessir. That is true. I guess I was referring to the full sized giants. Also, larger knives can be put in a belt case or slip, so size really isn't (or shouldn't be) a deal breaker.
It is called an awl.
It actually goes by many names. Case actually calls it a punch and others call it a reamer.
I agree. Stockman is far more popular, and useful, than the Trapper.
I've heard the reason Case promotes the Trapper so heavily is because it is easier to build and it has the long blades that give plenty of space for etches when making commemorative knives. To me the stockman makes more sense for an actual useful knife.
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Sheffield didn't just rely on you yanks, it was our empire that was the biggest market.
Absolutely! If I gave the impressions that Sheffield was relying on sales to the US for existence, my apologies. This was during the reign of Queen Victoria. And as the saying went, "The sun never sets on the British Empire." At the time Britain pretty much controlled the seas as well as the global economy. The United States was in the process of rebuilding after a devastating Civil War and was still very much a minor player on the global stage, even it's dealing in the Western Hemisphere! Sheffield was the biggest market for knives in the US, followed probably by Solingen. Several US importers were relying on Europe for goods. We had raw materials but the ability to actually manufacture goods cheaply had not really developed yet. Our textile industry was probably doing quite well. We also had a very promising industrial belt forming in the North East but we were far from an industry powerhouse. America's knife industry was just in its infancy. It would take heavy tarriffs on imported goods to finally give the local industries a chance to compete with low priced goods coming from Europe.
Correctly, the War of Northern Agression.
Don't you mean "The Unpleasantry"
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