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The Business of War
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
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As the Ukrainian conflict drags on, the U.S. continues to send weapons to Ukraine whilst American arms dealers profit. "The Business of War ", a 30-minute CGTN special, explores the history of U.S. arms dealers and how they benefit from conflicts. The special will focus on 4 chapters - Profit from Conflict, The Military Industrial Complex, Wars & American interests, and American Leadership or Hegemony. Tune in to get a glimpse of the other side of the story...
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A call to our Chinese brothers from a small western european country: Please persist and persevere in your peaceful and humane approach despite the inhumanity, aggression and absolute recklessness of our current collective leadership. I know you got to do what you have to do but, hopefully we can change them soon and we can together save the planet and live in peace and co-operation. Thank you for protecting humanity with a responsible stance.
Crack the imperialists, free the people. The humaniky and the workers movement see you comrads. Only a people nation can win the imperialists....
Nice and wise
Bullshit, don’t call us Chinese your brothers, we will fight a war to reunite the renegade province of Taipei to the fatherland and continue to cross the pacific and finally defeat the evil American empire, we give them a war of so much death and destruction that they will see he’ll on earth
Totally agree bro 💯 👌
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Finally the full version is uploaded! Thank you CGTN for such a great production, has been waiting it for a week~
I thought it is reuploaded only. so the first one uploaded shorter video.
More US politicians *_are visiting Taiwan_*
Ukraine are helping USA test its latest weapons on the battlefield ,and are potential customers too. While the acting/comedian is directing a war for the world to see him.
Ukrainians and Russians and also dying and our weapons makers keep hustling their evil products.
So what about Russia and china?....
@@favourmicheal9501 China is watching on the sideline and learned the Russia, the U S and her allies latest weapons in the Ukraine battle fields.
@@themiddlekingdom9121 I bet you china knows nothing about warfare more than America nor Russia...
Infact with the rapid evolution in science and technology, constant real combat experience and the ever growing desire of the American people to be the top global arms supplier, China will continue to sit and watch from the corner for the century..
Sitting and watching is not the way war works....
Wars are decided in the battle Field and not by watching from the corner....
@@favourmicheal9501 Both Russia and China have had far longer periods of peace in their history than the U.S. I agree that the more a government resorts to violence the more it is going wrong and against its own interest. War whether one is an aggressor or a defender consumes the resources that society needs in order to live a wholesome productive life. Ukraine and Russia both are asserting that the answer to their particular problem is the violence of war. We in America have only known actual peace for just 17 years our of a 250+ year history. We seem to be the world's greatest suckers for war.
We should always keep in mind that:
1. The U$ hasn't been at war for just 17 years out of the 246 years since its foundation.
2. The U$ is by far the most aggressive nation on the face of the planet responsible for the vast majority of the conflicts after the WWII.
3. The major beneficiary of the U$ never-ending wars is its military industrial complex. Which is also by far the biggest war profiteer in the world.
The strategy has always been the same:
Creating a problem -> Start arming and selling weapons to one of the sides -> Profit for its military industrial complex.
They did that in Korea, they did that in Vietnam, they did that in Iraq, Syria, Libya and they're now doing it in Ukrainе.
I remember back in the day, around 2002, when the US invaded Afghanistan, as a kid i didn't know what was going on, i only know that the Americans are fighting terrorists and that Americans were sent to HELP and support Afghanistan, thats what the news said. 20 plus years later, i realized that was a complete bullshit, what a joke.
@@williamppl3624 Indeed. The other excuse was that they were also after Оsama, who they еliminated, interestingly enough, in Pakistan. And whom, btw, they portrayed as a 'Freedom Fighter' just a decade prior. It's all about making money for MIC and expanding the U$ imperial interest. The rest are just lies and excuses.
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Catonpillow I need to correct you for one US was in the war in Afghanistan, Syria Kuwait etc so never been take a pause for the war since founding.
World peace... Is the DEATH of warmongering america,/Israel. No MORE Bloody Dollars
My wish is for the world to be one day liberated from American brutality.
That will happen after China becomes democratic 😃
The sufferings pains hunger cries of those victims of wars and conflicts pushed caused by US should be able to expedite the collapse of US. We just have to wait for the Gates of Hell to release the ghosts and sufferings of yesterday to come forth to feast on US.
So not one day but soonest possible.
@Meme Memeson Ameen
You mean instead of today where so many nations have united with the US to stop the aggression and bulling of China and Russia?
Liberated by American brutality replaced by either Russian or Chinese brutality brother!😎
What is troubling is that 90% of the U.S. general population do not know what its own government is doing. There are only two political parties running for Congress and the Presidency. While these two political parties represent the public facet of the government every few years, the CIA and the Military Industrial Complex people run the business side of the U.S. government. These people are the same year after year. They do not change unless they choose to retire. So in essence, no matter who is President, the same foreign policies are used. The CIA and Military Industrial Complex laundered tax payers money through endless wars. Billions of dollars and weapons to Ukraine. But U.S. weapons companies are benefitting because they make those weapons. The Military Industrial Complex people are investors of these weapons companies. That's how these people make money by transferring tax payers money into their pockets in the name of "freedom and democracy".
Spot on.
More US politicians *_are visiting Taiwan_*
Because it was keeped out them only 15% of US people Knows what they are doing and try to talk the other 90 that both sides are evil but we're going to be call liers and tritors for it unless the truth is spill out to them this will never stop.
another great documentary from CGTN
CGTN, Please reupload the documentary entitled The Human Toll of us meddling. And kindly make it downloadable. Otherwise, youtube is goinf to make them not watchable. Thanks very much in advance.
Yes! They should use number table to show what US claim vs. the victimised country / UN claim..
More US politicians *_are visiting Taiwan_*
BRICS - OUR HOPE
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@@Gop101 It would be great if India & China could get along. I heard somewhere USA & India plan to conduct military stuff in the Himalayas. So much history
@@Gop101 : Who care about India. It should smart up. As Henry Kissinger said " to be an enemy of US is dangerous but to be a friend of US is fatal."
Independence for Texas
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Independence for Hawaii. Hawaiians want their country back.
It's funny USA, he's clearly doing double standards for the separatists in Luhansk and Donetsk who want to separate from Ukraine backed by Russia, they reject it, but for the separatist government in Taiwan, which wants to secede from China, it supported, which is actually the opposite of what he himself said was agreeing to the "one China policy". When viewed from a geopolitical perspective, China highly values wisdom to become the strongest new superpower in Asia by taking responsibility for its role in setting an example for other superpowers such as the United States, whether to immediately use violence, which means military. operation or not. other options keep in mind that china is even economically far ahead of russia so if china really wants to attack taiwan it might be very easy for him like russia did to ukraine but china chooses another option which is possible from china perspective if he declares war now then inflation is guaranteed will also increase along with the price of food needs and their derivatives to various countries in the world because I still remember that Russia has a very strong influence in the energy sector such as natural gas, they have money, thus making supply chains in European countries all shout it's a secular state effect . As Russia, if it has used its economic power and felt its impact on European countries, which actually needs Russia's presence, especially if we compare China's economic influence in the world, it clearly far exceeds that of Russia, because maybe in a matter of seconds China will decide whether this should be done. with the choice of military aggression against Russia. Taiwan, do you see the impact after using this option, I think President Xi Jinping has received a lot of input from his advisers to be more concerned with the global impact that will arise if China conducts military aggression against Taiwan now?
For me, it is not surprising that Pelosi insisted on making a provocative visit to Taiwan because the whole world already knows America's character, namely "WHERE THERE IS WAR THERE IS AMERICA" because of the fact that almost 60% of America's GDP is contributed by their arms sales sector, so America would be quite happy if there was one. other clown countries like Ukraine want to be sacrificed as America's battlefield even though in the Ukrainian war it is clear America's role does not match reality, America only looked firm at first but when war broke out from Russia America's actions were only limited to sending weapons, this is very funny because actually I feel sorry for ukraine people because of their president's comedic policy of entering nato which was provoked by america they are now a country that will disappear from the map I hope Taiwan doesn't follow in the footsteps of a clown country like Ukraine.
Couldn’t more than agree ….. united states already become small as Uncle Sam couldn’t hold ‘standard’ anymore, not double standard BUT only united states standard
I don't agree with you that Ukraine will disappear from the map, but it will probably be smaller than before and possibly landlocked.
Howsoever you construed it is always for NATIONAL INTEREST.
The white man lies when his mouth is open he is lying
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_'They were dying, we were dancing'_ is another related video worth watching.
interesting title. would love to watch that. I am tearfully emotional on the crimes committed by the US
@@bill4056 Btw, Bill.. You posted a couple of comments here if am not wrong, but unfortunately they were YT censored. How to find out? Log off and look for them. If you can't see them, then it's censored. YT algorithms are very askew these days, and liberally censors a lot.
@@hotpotato7392 thanks. how did you know I had many comments here. I can not find and remember where my comments are anymore
@@bill4056 Because before engaging with anyone, will check up their profile and comment history first. Even though all of them are fakes, except mine 😅. Just tap on your pink 'b' icon. Good luck!
@@hotpotato7392 what I noticed in you tube is when I am trying to share a url that is censored in you tube, at first it appeared as comment, but when you left you tube and log in again it disappeared.
The American people needs to gaurd against the Military Industrial Complex.
It is too late now, already expanded into a Military-Media-Congressional-Industrial Complex.
@Eric Liu More US politicians *_are visiting Taiwan_*
Warlike nation America, James Carter!
Good work, CGTN!
The "aid to the xyz country " will be paid back to the USA in lend and lease accounts, and if the country is broke, then minerals or oil from that country become USA property.
If this level of energy expenditure was made to create a smart grid and alternative energy sources we would already have most of that infrastructure already built. The F35 takes jobs and funding needed for environmental remediation which would help people in the U.S. and abroad, and save, not take lives.
You are right but splitting up russia into several amount of pieces and exploiting their natural recourses are way more profitable, also if russia is gone or split into pieces, attacking china will be way easier. The main goal is to stop china and china knows that. To bring china to its knees the USA needs Russia, but not a Russia on eye level which can veto US adventures but a split up exploited weak russia which wont be able to support chinas ressistance against the USA which has been preparing a war against china for a long time...
War coming!
Normal public: Run~😱😱😱
The military-industrial complex of the US: Cheers~😁😁😁
@@abdalabi3617 One little (?) problem for the U.S. and NATO. Russia is prevailing. Stop imagining what is NOT HAPPENING.
"then minerals or oil from that country become USA property." - Please give us an example where the US used "lend/lease accounts" and when said nation didn't repay as you claim, the US took assets such as minerals or oil or anything else... provide examples. You know, like how Sri Lanka couldn't make payments to China and China took Sri Lanka's new port and 15 thousand acres of their land. Go ahead.... give up some American examples of this neo-colonialism.
...900,000 plus ki!!ed 335,000 of whom where civilians, and they say this is a great country...
China should help Russia. Russia should ask China for assistance. Russia is going against All those European countries and America combined. That is so unfair. Not to mention all those countries combining their spending is humongous just against just Russia who is alone. I know China said they don't intervene in other countries internal affairs but it's different when our country asks for help. So I hope Russia can ask China for assistance.
well Russia choose to fight start a war. Ukraine didn't fire the first shot
@mystic traveler: No worries! I heard Xi and Putin talk practically daily. Some stuff cannot be released publicly. They had a one on one meeting with no interpreters when Putin was in Beijing for the Olympics. I am sure they have confidential agreements. Russia is winning in Ukraine. Soon, Ukraine will cease to exist. If you want to know the truth in the battles in Ukraine, go to Duran, Alexander mercouris, new atlas, Patrick Lancaster, military summary channel, etc.
Russia should be fine because USA is too scare to send any her troops to fight against Russians. Other reason is that the American moms can’t handle to see their sons and daughters came back in the body bags.
Freight between China to Russia is up 60% this year. So something is going on.
@@wisdomtony3512 it depends. If you look at 2014 coup engineered by the US government, I say the US fired the 1st shot since this mess started from that point.
Great work CGTN team! Please keep the fair and subjective view....you need to be better than Fox or CNN, intelligence of the citizens of the world can never be underestimated!
Waw now you are talking guys and doing amazing jobs 💯.
Thanks for your full Truth DOCUMENTARY 💯.✌🏾
"How will the world achieve peace" when the USA and other countries continue to have and relish hegemonic ambitions? People of the world unite for peace, compassion, benevolence, productivity and prosperity. Fight against greed, avarice, arrogance, hegemony and exploitation.
Z - love, peace and harmony. Thank you for the analysis.
I PRAY GOD DOES SOMETHING ABOUT THE US AND NATO
blame the west for this warmongering…
War coming!
Normal public: Run~😱😱😱
The military-industrial complex of the US: Cheers~😁😁😁
Thank you for making this available to everyone on UA-cam!
Russia is the force of balance in a new world order , India will e smart to join Russia and China economically , at first ! They are all in the same location , same people , they should unite ! Africans are the high priests of the world ! Why do you think they are never motivated to create weapons of mass destruction?
Respect African , the only way we will find peace on earth !!
It cost about $40,000/hour to fly a F35. A replacement F35 seat cover cost $400.
A clear and precise documentary 👏 👌
Brilliant!
By the way, what happened to Libya's gold reserves?
Murica stole it
@@clarencesolomon137 The US is a pirate.
@@Larkinchance the USA is legendary for piracy
What is the percentage the US military weapon manufacturing form part of its GDP? If it were not included, would its GDP still remain biggest?
60%
@@Splashmesplash no, its about 7%..
@@juchou2983 I doubt you can account for it, US military industrial complex is multinational and many transactions are done in the shadows or through shell companies backed by US lobbyists.
@@sergevtorino I just divided the revenue of mic companies by total GDP.
@@juchou2983 Those amounts are never declared. Therefore it's hard to give an estimate. I think you overestimate the transparency of this industry.
We are doing everything we can as the United States working around the clock to deliver our own weapons, organizing and coordinating the delivery of weapons from many other countries. "Another forever war", America's GDP and economy is entangled in Russia's special military operations and Ukraine conflict. If their was peace and no war the military industrial complex would war with politicians, weapons manufacturer's would slash their work force, unemployment would be up and inflation would continue to sky rocket. How many politicians own stocks in American weapons manufacturing companies?
US support to Ukraine in total during 1,5 years amounts to 0,2% of US annual GDP.
Replenish the old, out of date existing stock with new versions. What a smart way to get rid of old stock.
@Lin Emily: These countries pay full price for them. . .not discount price.
Agree but the million dollar question is : Is it moral? To create the conflict on foreign shores, then make tons of money from arms sales. Proxy wars using foreign nationals to fight and die for you?
Likely to more than full price since these countries are in no position to bargain.
Who is paying for all this ?
The American proud tax payers .
What a bunch of fools .
China, this is exactly what I mean by the phrase: " the best defense is offense." Very informative.
from millions to billions of dollars...why not use those money to help your own country's domestic problems? smh
The leadership of Russia and China should make a brave country like Iran a nuclear power as soon as possible and give Iran nuclear weapons as soon as possible. 🇷🇺🇨🇳🇮🇷
That is a bad idea and it won't happen.
The Acceleration and Expansion of DE-DOLLARIZATION of USD is vital and important to Curb and Prevent USA from spreading WAR, DESTRUCTION and SUFFERING all over THE WORLD.
The US Dept.of Defence should
be renamed Dept.of War.
Thank you!!!!
sick
I have a question? With all these weapons,why is Ukraine getting waxed?
Superb
It is unsurprising to me that the people of China no longer regards the United State as a role model (Why China‘s people no longer look up to America. The two countries’ national narratives are vivid accounts of their country’s past, present and future that can be a source as well as a reflection of state power. The Communist Party of China has outlined a clear story of Chinese ascendancy, which has largely been realised, economically and militarily. Conversely, the traditional narrative of American exceptionalism stands at odds with the present reality of dysfunction. Americans have voiced frustration at their country’s diminishing performance on socio-economic indices and tarnished international standing. Preoccupied with outdated notions of incumbency and spinning the yarn of Chinese threat, US leaders have unfortunately neglected to craft a new story for their own nation , one more befitting America’s present challenges and future priorities. It is not too late for the US to look in the mirror.
Stock listed arm company is disgusting
Also, the goals are lands, natural resources, cheap labor, money flows.
Stocks of Lockheed Martin was starting to rise since the beginning of 2013. And at the end of 2013, the first phase of the war was beginning.
Well, i was looking into hegemony as I've seen more and more presence of Chinese in the U.S. society as well as the partnership in the International Arbitration and IP court in Singapore and Chicago and what i don't understand is WHY the U.S. keeps SAYING that China is our Enemy when, one looks hard enough time and again I'm finding that's simply not true and that Chinese Culture under XI appears to be happy and good but for the part of them mirroring what the u.s. does in the Trafficking of Children for job creation and security for adults and that it's tearing the u.s to pieces and will eventually not turn out good for us. I know China is here but for the love of humanity please help STOP THE SEIZING OF CHILDREN!
Westinghouse and nuclear plants of Ukraine is interesting topic too.
Google did not switch back to this video! Instead Google switches to same next video of DW that was in the the sequence Google proposes.
It's no free. Ukraine will pay for them for the next 40 years.
I wonder why Russia did not used electromagnetic weapon to fight war in Ukraine
Evil as usual knows no bounds but for some manufacturers that just spelled huge profits.
I think that saying people make war to gain money is backward. The profits are more like a side effect of the whole thing.
Money is just paperwork, and capitalism is just the management process.
Talking about money and business dresses it up too much. Conquest through war is the naked ambition of the empire.
If people believe in the justifications for the war, as many probably do, then they can justify giving money to people who execute the war.
Whether people make money off it could be good or bad, depending on whether the war is just or not.
Instead of connecting war to money, you should stick to attacking the lies and false justifications for the war itself.
Wars commited by the USA are not really about protecting democracy. They are about domination and control. That is the story that needs to be told.
clouds are cloudy
there will always be war. is a thousand year conflict from religion more acceptable as long as money isn't involved? do you have an issue existing in a zero sum paradigm? the only reason you live a day more is something died to nourish you. is your world solely composed of black and white? would you be at peace if war stems from a just cause?
@@McCarthyism_by_UA-cam Did you even read what I wrote? Are you replying to me or the original video?
I don't kill conscious beings to survive. If you do, you can speak for yourself. Either way, no one has to kill people to survive. No one has to subjugate people to survive.
I am not a pacifist, but imperial war is unnecessary and unjust.
People can live in peace together without war. If you can't see that, you are blind. I probably cannot help you by something I write here.
@@pinedrone2550 um yeah don't eat people...prions n stuff... right then
Doesn't China supply The United States with the materials for This Industrial Complex 🤔🤔🤔?
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Yes, but that could soon be on hold if US does the unthinkable with Taiwan.
“all warfare is based on deception.” "deception is the key to gaining a military advantage over your opponent." “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”
Indeed, China is the main financial backer of the US!
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Time for this war reaches American soil, and give them a taste of their criminal all wars.
If a new war breaks, it is important that the decision makers of the war and their committed allies in the war are also targeted in their cities and homes and not only in the proxies' countries.
If wheat is still the strategic bait to sell arms, the military industrial complex argument backfires during any conflict such a resource is the crux of the conflict itself.
Upholding war in exchange for hegemony and profit.
I don't think so why you only covering the US and not talking from Russia country that start the war of Ukraine
America's hegemony has been a disaster. Time for a change. Come on China, time to step up. For your first act, please end the Cuban embargo.
Given that America is an elected democracy, the American people cannot absolve themselves of the wrongs of their successive governments. It's up to the American people to rid themselves of the Republican-Democratic duopoly
Warmonger
An F35 fighter jet cost almost $80 billion to $140million dollars and the US dod has 450 of them, planned to reach 2500. The expected life time cost of the F35 programme is "currently" estimated at almost $1.03 trillion; but probably will cost much more. Note: $20 billion would eradicate homelessness in America but the homeless cannot make huge donatations to political parties/individuals and compete for just a fraction of the government hand outs received by the IMC hence they remain poverty stricken. The Washington/Wall Street corporate regime has run up a $30 trillion, and still mounting, national debt. Virtually all of this cash went to the IMC.
What is the ROI in weapon trade? Is the weapons business a boon to the economy and feeding the citizens? From I perceive from the news and social media, US seems to be donating weapons to Ukraine and most other military conflicts. Can anybody please help to explain?
Ask other people die for them.....Us no sham!!!
the world really chaos what democracy creative around the world for American news generation to
Serving the beast, with blood sweat and tears
How fucked up our little world is
the map and after China because of jealously China successful economic the second large ?
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the young president of Ukraine also follow a bad foot step or want to be part of NATO another perfected
put to used each generation to follow ? or still have chance put down Russia second times good or wide out off
and military ?
because of decline power don,t sit tight see other countries successful future ? panic future own stupidity ?
the superior dominant super power of hegemony to the world got to do better than these not
The real question is why won't Russia use nuclear weapons?
This video is produced by CGTN, it must be misinformation and conspiracy theory LOL 😆😆😆 The US cares for everyone of us and our freedom!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Jokes aside, it's a really well-made, informative video.
around the glob witch many country don,t want any to do and go with in the first place
I don’t watch tv or Hollywood movies .
I wonder if Chinese people had issues with business of war in USA when USA supported China in its fight against Imperial Japan in WW2? I have the distinct feeling that they were all for that support. But somehow helping Ukraine is problematic.
thats the difference, one was expansionism of Japan in WW2, but with Ukraine, its regime change and threat to Russia from NATO expansion, in last decade even after collapse of Soviet Union, NATO expanded to Russianborders in 5 waves. NATO had to be disbanded, instead it was expanded, the only option that was left for Russia was to have neutral buffer Ukriane. With regieme change (2009-14) USA even did not give russia this option. So Russia is protecting itself. I want peace but that can happen if both NATO and Russia stop expansion, you cant expect Russia to chill when you have NATO missiles right next to its border (thats my opinion)
@@RohankrishnaB NATO has attacked Russia 0 times. Russia has attacked neighbors 5 or 9 times, depending if you count repeats. Why do you think countries want to join NATO?
As for "bufffer zones", that's straight imperialist talk from the likes of Hitler and Stalin.
Don't forget to include them who are in cahoots : western media, to rationalize lies upon lies
The U.S. fighting wars just to maintain its military industrial complex overcapacity production well consumed. A war/ political and war engineering powerhouse of the world has been transforming America and Europe over 70+ years. Their productions too were spread throughout Europe to ensure European supports in all manner of war, presence and future. Both Japanese and Korean’s economies and work forces are tied to the war engineering machinery as well. The bottom line is money…a death factory. . Is that the new moral of the Western civilization? What chance does the global south have? What chance does the humanity have? Are those well funded meal and vacation lifestyles enough trade off for a long future in hell? Truly our demise aren’t greatly exaggerated.
A lion Roar over Lion Never. over the weak,Iraq and Afghan,
Gosh.
It's almost as if my country back in 1775 declared war against "every form of tyranny"
Hello, Dictatorship. Not capable of self-reforming? 改革开放太难吗？
safe for all of us news generation , not an assassination weaponize of mass murder ?
On when Humans face threat from another planet will they be united
it is impossible to build true sustainable prosperity & peace on others' misery, suffering & death meaning all decision makers involved are directly o indirectly responsible. even a worker who is simply hired by any of these companies feeding wars is indirectly involved. but of course this is not so obvious at all. greed & cruelty expressions like these we are seeing will have a huge price to pay, everything comes back to us in different ways at different times. that's why the law of karma is something all these people are missing out. just look at America's overall health & mental health, consumerism, addictions, violence levels, it is definitely not a prosperous but a decaying society, but i do hope the disempowered people globally are truly seeing this & rising. the problem is global not local. truth is coming out & people will stop this global political corruption system
yeah! print some more money. money you don't have
How would you justify your actions when you are crossing the bridge to the other side when you are responsible for the loss of lives of millions of innocent women , men and children around the world and the misery and pain you have caused .
Don't you understand ?
But anything else you need to buy you'll need to get it from China
China
rip usa
I'm praying for a Gort to return and destroy the planet for real. It seems to be a predetermined outcome for us to self-destruct thru wars so I'd rather it happen in a flash.
The Lump sum Trillions $ by LORDS OF BLOODS and TEARS .
Soon all arm dealer in US will pay the highest tax they will surpass Elon musk
A perfected end one continent because Ukraine war and Taiwan independent , first step Ukraine war ,
carry on ? wow ! ! ! asked for another 200 years superior dominant super power look at the mirror