The MONSTER Dad Who Did The Unthinkable - The Twisted Crimes of Timothy Jones Jr
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Hi my name is Danielle, welcome to my True Crime and Makeup series! I’ve been interested in true crime for the longest time now, what started with me watching true crime on TV with my Nan from a young age eventually turned into studying for a degree in Law & Criminology.
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After listening to so many cases about children, I've come to the conclusion that child protective services are not meant to help children at all... I would argue that people go in to this with the purest intentions and then get overwhelmed by the sheer bureaucracy that ties their hands. It's devastating. Look out for all the babies in and around your life, they are the future, protect them. The system won't.
There is really no consistency is there. My ex was reporting me to child protective services; but it was quite obvious that I was fine and needed help against him. It really just comes down to who is on the case. In my experience, the people who were there really wanted to get it right. They were bright, capable, and empathetic. Then you have stories like this…..
Honestly the longer they work, the more apathetic they become. My dad would completely not allow them in the house to investigate, and then implicate my mother who was the one who called. It's crazy
It’s also very inconsistent on when it comes to taking children from a home and fallowing up.
Exactly it's so sad they never do anything until it's too late 😪
My Mom was going to be a Social Worker until she saw how F'd the system was so she changed her major to Education. Most of these 'Child Protective Services" are really just fronts to traffic kids and teenagers. It's sick. Same for daycares.
Child Service: Oh poor children, if only someone could have done something.
Everyone who was reporting: Isn't that your job?
Child Service: Oh they were well groomed and looked fine, this abuse was very well hidden.
Everyone: 👁️👄👁️
Children services is a whole shit show honestly…. Constantly letting kids go through hell and then not taking any responsibility when it goes too far
they were starving, had cuts, but by golly, they were WELL GROOMED! Disgusting.
Sadly it happens in my town to my mom found a baby who couldn’t even talk yet just mumble near the road called the cops and the parents didn’t come looking for the child for almost an hour the cops didn’t call social services bc it was a weekend my mom kept calling for updates nothing was ever done! It’s heartbreaking
child services: oh we wish we could've done something
my brother in christ you are the ones who decide not to 💀
As a social work student hearing stories like these make me so angry. It is drilled into our brains that our clients no matter the age group are our responsibility, and it’s our job to look out for them. It blows my mind how agencies like child services don’t really give a shit about their clients, and it’s almost always the supervisors putting pressure on caseworkers to finish the cases that should not be closed.
I don’t usually cry, but the photos of the children at the end is just heartbreaking. Thanks for telling their story respectfully. May their father rot in jail, then hell.
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These children were failed SO badly, and what's so upsetting is that people around them did exactly what they should have done, the witnesses cared, reported the abuse, and tried to help, and the "system" in place that should have saved their lives, kept them in the hands of their murderer. And then you hear about how other people's kids are so easily taken away, I think of those kids who were adopted by monsters that killed them by driving a van off a cliff, and how the families of those kids WANTED then back, and those kids were taken away because of lesser offenses. Just so, so wrong.
You're so right, also the Orrin and Orson case comes to mind. It's disgusting,disturbing and all around gross. It makes me so angry when parents who have issues, don't get me wrong but do what they're being told they need to do to get their children back or not taken in the first place and yet they don't. They need to do better background checks(including childhood which may have prevented some of this BS),prior pysch evaluations,more actual in person check ins to physically see the children. Regardless, with this case specifically I feel that the first visit from DCS could have been followed up on and it wasnt and the fact that calls kept coming and some from the mother no less why wasnt it followed up on? like why?! It's so f×cking wrong. I know social workers are so burnt out, I work in the community and justice field and I get it but something has got to change. It's not just the perpetrator; it's everyone else babysitters,teachers,cps too no doubt. They're supposed to be the first line of defense. Being a bystander makes you just as guilty. He should have never gotten custody of those kids.
Sorry about the rant.
I'm so upset by this case, I'm gonna go hug my kids now🥺
Happens so much more often then they want people aware of. Where kids in ACTUAL need of protection & out of abusive homes often fall through the cracks of the system and in other situations with no bad homes or for lesser situations or unforseen circumstances, or many trying to flee DV etc. Have to fight so hard and put through tons of road blocks & circles & wrong judgment just to fight back for their child or children. It's really sad that this happens so often sadly.
The entire bloodlines been failed hell throw that shit in a dumpster fire any descendants left should not procreate they should sterilize themselves those bloodlines need to be wiped out it breads dysfunctional psychos.
@@hardyquinn9442 the way the system took the boys from the mother was dead wrong one was injured at daycare while the mom was at work and she took the children to the hospital after the babysitter called her job yet they decided to take her children when she was at work when one was injured accidentally even though she did everything right and changed the babysitter so yhe system is at fault for putting her boys in the care of those monsters that killed them when they should've never been taken from their mom in the first place they'd be alive today, CPS is abusive towards parents especially when they're poor and can't afford and probably don't know how to fight such a powerful abusive system we see this happen a lot where they place children in danger but will leave children with horrible biological parents and take kids out of good safe homes
@@hardyquinn9442 being burnt out isn't a damn excuse they had no real grounds for taking those poor babies from the bio mom where they were happy and safe, those monster adopted parents started abusing those boys immediately and cps ignored the biological mom complaints she was worried about what was already happening so many times they ignore bio parents there's so many cases where people reported the kids aren't safe yet CPS ignore them labeling them as bitter or difficult and the kids end up dead recently a friend complained about his daughter mother to CPS because he was fighting for custody they ignored him and thought he was just being bitter because they allowed the bio mom to get the child back and one week later the child was murdered shot in the head at point blank range now they're covering their ass lying saying they receive no complaints prior when the entire family was crying for help because the mom was threatening to get revenge on him and moved to another state with the child illegally. Sad an 8 year old is no longer here and my poor friend he went crazy in shock he's literally been walking the streets in he's not even himself he just left his job and disappeared and everyone is worried asking him to seek therapy I couldn't imagine I would lose my mind too if something so tragic like that happened to my only child.... Thankfully the bitch is awaiting trial she tried to make her son lie and say he pulled the trigger by accident but the detectives knew it was a lie.
the part where he choked the younger children with a belt because HIS HANDS WERE TOO BIG literally broke my heart. i’m tearing up about this case. may those angles rest in peace.
Bailey Sarian was the only person I listened to true crime stories on UA-cam. Until I have recently discovered you and been binge watching your videos. I love the way you go into very detail describing the cases.
Same!
Same here!
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I'm the same! I found this lovely lady suggested in bailey's feed and now I'm hooked!
i recommend you also give a listen to Stephanie Soo's podcast "Rotten Mango". She's very thorough with her research and always talks about the victims with the utmost respect.
As a teacher in SC, this case makes my blood boil. I’ve had the same things happen when I’ve reported abuse of my students. After reporting that one of my students was telling me “my mom is going to kill me” (a kid who came to school with bruises and had a lot of emotional needs) I was literally told by dss “what do you expect us to do about it”. I ended up having to call the police to do a wellness check. It absolutely breaks my heart and infuriates me.
This is so heartbreaking. Thank you for doing your part to help even if the powers that be arent
I know a daycare worker who went through that and the baby ended up dying because of neglect. Also in sc btw.
I’m confused why nobody called the police on Timothy? Would that not have been somewhat more immediate?
@@neptune4ngel in my situation, (with this same child) we did call dss and the police when the child showed us bruises all over their legs. We were told by the police “we can’t control how they choose to parent”. It was almost like they were absolutely not going to help this child no matter what was happening.
However, in other situations, I’ve had the child be removed from school immediately and placed in to foster care.
From my experience, it’s almost like it either depends on the child’s gender if they will get support, or maybe it’s just the people who get chosen to handle each case. But I have noticed a huge difference in reactions & actions when I report that it’s a male student being abused. :(
Had a friend followed an harassed by a DSS worker because they'd lived in the same neighborhood as the case until about a year ago ad the worker thought that "They know something." and the case had been closed for months. Friend literally left because they'd gotten their first apartment and job after college. DSS in SC is the literal worst.
Honestly DSS employees should be held accountable to some extent. This is just unacceptable
Amber moved to New York I think it was she paid child support and called the children regularly I saw the whole court trial when he went on trial
Maybe that way they'd start caring about the kids. If they actually get punished for failing to do something and properly report.
Absolutely 💯
@@milacruz3970 Just do their jobs.
Yes thank you.
I knew the family back when Tim was going to college in MS. We all went to the same Apostolic Pentecostal church together for approximately a year. Amber is one of the sweetest people you could ever meet who loved her children, but Tim gave me the creeps. There was absolutely no emotion in his eyes and I felt very uncomfortable around him. At the time, they only had the three children, Eli, Merah and Natahn. Those children were so special and I loved them the moment I met them. Once, a little while after they started going to church, Amber had to have gallbladder surgery, so I was asked to babysit while Amber went through the surgery. I agreed. It was during this time that I started learning about Tim's abuse towards Amber and got a first hand look for myself at Tim's anger issues. I met Tim at the hospital before Amber's surgery to get the kids and thought it would be a good idea for the kids to see Amber before surgery. So, I mentioned it to Tim. He agreed, so we went into the hospital. We were greeted by a lady who worked there and she explained to us that we would have to wear a visitor's badge and Tim refused. When the lady explained that it was hospital policy he went into a rage. He yelled at her a racial slur and told her he would not wear the badge and stormed off. I was in shock and completely embarrassed. The poor lady and I just stood there in disbelief and all I could do at that point was apologize. I had to explain to her that I'd only just gotten to know Amber, Tim and the kids and was only there to babysit. I was horrified. After seeing Amber off to surgery, I took the kids home with me thinking I would be taking care of them throughout the night as well since Amber wouldn't be able to pick the children up after her surgery. However, I received a call from Tim saying I could bring the kids back home that night, but was asked if I could come back the following day to help Amber with the kids. I said yes and went the next day to help Amber. I got to their apartment the next day to help with the kids only to find her up and cooking. I was like, omg Amber, let me do that! She said she could do it and that Tim would be upset if he found out she hadn't cooked for the kids. Tim wasn't anywhere around, but she was scared of him finding out she didn't do what he told her to do. I found out during this visit that she didn't have a license to drive and that Tim would prefer her barefoot and pregnant. I was appalled. I asked her if she was OK with that and she responded back that she just wanted to please Tim. She was scared of upsetting him. Amber is just a little younger than myself by maybe a year and I remember feeling so sad for her. Here was a young mother (22 at the time I believe) who obviously loved her children, but was stuck in a terrible situation. I didn't know what to do except just be her friend. I had to go over to the apartment once more a while after the surgery (I don't remember why) and noticed that the phone and been ripped off the wall. I asked Amber if everything was OK, and she explained Tim had gotten mad at her and ripped the phone off the wall. It was during this visit I found out he'd also shut down her Facebook account so she couldn't have interaction with friends or family. There came a point in time where Amber told me Tim hit her in the face, so I decided to go to my pastor and explain what happened and that I was worried for Amber and the kids. I asked him if there was any way possible he could talk to Amber alone (I didn't want Tim to known anything was up) and he said he would see what he could do. The next service, I noticed Tim, Amber and the kids weren't there. So, I asked my pastor what happened. He, to my horror, said he'd talked to both of them together and that Amber (trying to protect herself) told him none of it was true. He said Amber was a drama queen and to not believe a word that comes out of her mouth. I was angry and in disbelief he would say something like that. (I am no longer affiliated with the Pentecostal church in any way btw) I immediately tried to call Amber, but got no answer. Her Facebook account was closed, so I had no way of reaching her. My thoughts were that I'd just gotten her beaten or worse. I was truly terrified for her safety. I found out from a lady in the church who was also friends with Amber that they'd packed over night and left. I felt sick. My instinct was to call the cops, but since I had no idea where they'd gone, I really didn't know if my calling would help. Throughout the years, I never forgot about them and tried to find where they'd gone, but no with no luck. I believe it was a year before the incident that I happened to come across a picture on a friend's page of some children and was excited to see it was a picture of Eli and Merah. I immediately contacted my friend and asked if she knew where they were and she said that they up and disappeared one day. So, once again, I was at a dead end road. Then, one night when I was at work, the news came on with Tims picture and what he'd done. The shock and horror I felt was just unbearable. I had always had a gut feeling he would try to kill Amber, but I never thought he would kill the children. Tim is and has ALWAYS been a monster. He's destroyed so many lives in so many ways. And I'll say this now, Amber was the best mother. I know the media made her out to be someone who didn't care, but those children were very much loved by her and I have no doubt she tried everything she could to keep them. DSS should be prosecuted because of how they handled this case. Amber and the kids were not only failed in SC, but in MS as well. I often wish I could go back all those years and try to help Amber get out of that situation, maybe things would have ended differently..😭
Thank you for this video btw! Also, thank you for not attacking Amber and for taking time to get accurate information.
Thank you for this perspective! I can’t even imagine the feeling you must have gone through when seeing the news. I am baffled by how the pastor handled the situation. He didn’t believe amber and he didn’t believe you either when you said you had witnessed these red flags. Pastors are supposed to be their for their community, what a disgrace.
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We all live with different situations and experiences that leave us wondering…..what if? I believe that everything happens for a reason and it’s ultimately Gods plan. It might seem bizarre when considering the seriousness of this case. But what if you were successful in helping Amber get her children? I strongly believe Tim would not sit back and allow that. Odds are good he would have killed Amber along with all the children. For my own peace of mind when hearing these devastating stories I like to think that God had important plans for these beautiful souls in Heaven. I pray you and all the surviving loved ones, can find peace and leave any guilt you feel behind.
@@easyveganfoodie men protecting men 😢
what church? & what county or town?
Can’t believe I hadn’t heard of this one until now. I feel so sorry for those poor babies and their mom. I can’t imagine the guilt she must carry for feeling like she had no choice but to hand over custody to that awful man. I won custody of my son without a lawyer, without a job and with no family support, because I was able to provide a mountain of evidence of what evil things my son’s father was capable of. Today we’re doing great and I’m so proud of the young man he’s becoming. I wish so badly that these horrible crimes stopped happening to kids from the hands that are supposed to love them most.
Give me some strength pls hun. I’m going for a relocation order against an abuser who has controlled my life years after the break up. Won’t follow legal orders so pls pray. Reading ur comment gave me hope
@@LunnaJannah good luck dear 🙏 wishing you only the best
@@PRIVATEME2013 not everyone is abusive to begin with, sometimes people who aren’t meant to or capable of handling children have it happen after, or women with untreated post partum depression. I wish it was something we could pin down then at least we’d be able to make an attempt to stop it. 😞
it kills her every day Amber's my friend since high-school
@@LunnaJannah You absolutely have all the strength you need already within you, love. You don’t have to be perfect and you don’t have to always win, just don’t give up. My heart goes out to you.
I was abused when I was younger by my father, he also thought I was bullying him and conspiring against him. It’s really heartbreaking to hear cause you start doubting yourself
Danielle is seriously the only UA-camr where I’ll be like “I’m not in the mood to hear this” but she tells it so well and with so much heart that I find myself 3 videos deep in a row. She just has a way of speaking without making it all so uncomfortable, even though it is extremely uncomfortable. Love listening to her!!!
I agree with everything you said she is amazing and I love he accent
This is exactly what I came here to say!
Same!
Sameeeee I feel you! Literally me this morning. “ I’m not going to start my day wit Murder… and then…. Watched for videos”
Oh, me too! If you haven't watched Bailey Sarian videos yet, you definitely should. Shes the birth mother of the true crime and makeup genre. That said, even her extreme compassion and excellent story telling pale in comparison to Danielle's compassion and story telling. The more I watch, the better it gets too! I'll be glad for the day when her views and subscribers are as high! Thanks again detective Danielle!
Danielle, your success is so well deserved! Love your empathy, your presentation, and, of course your make up!
I second this! 💕
@@soyunperderdor7246 hey, if you don’t like it, you don’t have to watch it. Watch someone else that puts the story in the way you want it to be shown. 👌🏽
@@madydesir7823 I hear you and you are right.
@@soyunperderdor7246 u really think someone is gonna read that freakin essay u typed bruh 💀 that’s the real question here “Rach” 😐
@@itsmealanaa nah .. I'm OK being a nobody.
I love how much attention you give to the victims of the cases you cover. I am curious and like to hear about the stories of how people can go so freaking crazy. But you ALWAYS pay respects to those who are lost and that’s what I really love about your channel. Thank you!
Danielle, your content is always so well researched and sympathetic to the victims and survivors above all else. It speaks so highly of your work ethic and who you are as a person. Believe me when I say all of your success is so well earned.
she's so underrated, I hope she gets the following she deserves!
You know it’s odd-I’ve pretty much watched every one of your videos and it hasn’t really ever occurred to me, until your intro, that you’re doing your makeup at the same time. Haha. Maybe because I’m also a makeup junkie and it always felt so natural…that you’re doing your makeup.
Bailey Sarian’s UA-cam channel is also well researched and she also has another UA-cam channel called Dark History which is also well researched. It is about history that we never learned in high school (and I never learned her content in college), Both of her channel’s are excellent (in my opinion and I am very very picky about watch on UA-cam).
@@zoe1baby bailey sarian was been being called out recently. she posted (now deleted) tweets about her being sad over the johnny vs amber case being over, as if the trial wasn't about domestic abuse allegations and defamation. also shes tweeted some pretty messed up stuff to/about abuse victims
Her genuine empathy shines bright ✨
That man’s haircut alone tells me he is a bad person.
It's just so unbelievable that he was reported by so many people, even the children themselves, and nothing was done. People from CSS who didn't follow up should be also held responsible. This is so tragic 💔
I feel that when something like this happens & it is so blatantly obvious that the department of children services failed so miserably, & to the extent they did to do their jobs they should face legal consequences as well. It’s like with Gabriel Fernandez, they are just as responsible. Being overworked is not an excuse to completely abandon all common sense. That monster had been reported multiple times, on the last visit they found the children were starving & covered in bruises & they found he was visibly overwhelmed with parenting duties, yet they did nothing? It’s crazy because they’ll permanently terminate someone’s rights for drugs but give people like this chance after chance. Smh.
You said it!
I always say. You can smoke weed, drink and party all you want BUT make sure your fucking duties are covered first. If you are a parent, it's not longer what YOU want it's what YOUR child needs then you come second. That comes with your love of weed and/or partying as something that you would to put in the back burner. The system doesnt care about children or anybody. It's a front in order to use that money for selfish reasons. They really don't care when they go into a room and see how bad a child lives. They just roll their eyes and move on
I absolutely agree!!! Anyone in child protective services that fails a child/children SO obviously needs to face jail time. Maybe then they would do their job properly!!!! Cases like this absolutely tear me up inside and make me so angry and heartbroken. I wish we could save every child…this shouldn’t happen ever
I'm a social worker. These cases are infuriating and heartbreaking. Please know not all of us are bad, lazy, ignorant, awful people. I do everything in my power to help my kiddos. The job is exhausting, scary, sad but also there are good stories. And those successful cases are what give me hope. It's a constant fight against the courts, abusers, our own agencies. I am lucky that I work for a private agency but there is no shortage of struggles. Thank you for doing cases on children.
If you see something say something!!
Thank you for doing what you do. It must be so awful to have to deal with. My parents were foster parents and some of the stories I heard from other children were horrendous, and they thought it was totally normal. Sadly a social worker screws up and a kid can die, for most of us, we will get yelled at by our supervisor, maybe a write-up, but for your career a dead child can be the result. I don't know how you do it.
Thank you for what you do. Yes people slip through the cracks I believe it's because the social workers in general are good people but very very over worked. That was my experience with working with them.
I’ve seen children that were taken from their parents who are drug abuser who end up back in with their drug abusing parents because hair follicle tests are not given just urine tests which can easily be passed by using someone else’s urine. It’s sad
@@melissagarcia9977 Very good point!
I call BS
The child protective service depth should be prosecuted for these kids deaths also. How disgusting of them to ignore these kids and the abuse they've been thru. This absolutely breaks my heart. Poor Angila, I can't even imagine her anguish.
Child Protective Services failed these babies. When you said the 6 year old died, I paused and hugged my own 6 year old boy so tight. This story made me cry.
Did your son cry too?
This is an example of how I'm so conflicted on my desire to be a foster parent. I want so desperately to help kids like this that do get removed, but I know how insidious abuse can be, how difficult it is to overcome, and how maddening the system is to work within. The sheer amount of self care and support you need to be in that chaos full time is insane. I hope im ready for that and can help foster kids someday, even if only for a little while.
Hello Ellen, becoming a foster parent has been the biggest joy and fulfillment of my life. You will not regret it and the impact the children make on you is much more than you will make on them (though your impact will be amazing). I have 3 beautiful boys I’ve had for 9’months. Seeing them change from scared thin boys to healthy vibrant socialable boys is amazing. The kids need us Ellen! The struggle is worth it ! The system is imperfect & it always will be but that doesn’t mean it’s not needed and not worth stepping into!! Ellen you can do this. If there were more foster parents social workers would be able to pull kids into those homes quicker. The bar is set so low for what is suitable due to the lack of homes available. Praying for your journey !
Hi Ellen, I'm in the same boat. I can't have children and fostering/adopting is something I've wanted to do since I was a little girl. My coworker/friend is fostering and she adores her foster daughter, but CPS can be challenging to work with (from what she tells.) It's very sad that a system is so completely f*cked over that the mere thought of dealing with CPS scares away potential parents/guardians for kids. I want to be a foster parent, but I really do understand your concerns. Good luck.
Plz plz foster I was in care in the 60s n 70s the lack of care I got was awful I live in Manitoba Canada this one family didn't even get me a winter coat or boots it was jean jacket and runners and more often than not you'll be molested so plz in major need of loving foster care meequetch
I worked for a Fostering agency.
It can be tough, but do your research and speak to other carers if you can because that network and support is vital.
I hope you go ahead. Not all Foster kids are traumatised, but the ones that are can be helped with time, understanding and support.
I've seen some people who have fostered the same child for 10+ years and completely transformed them. It was very inspiring.
You can always do respite care! My mom fostered while I was growing up and respite times were a relief all around
thank you for paying respects to the kids at the end like that. so many true crime people just focus on the gruesomeness and seem almost…idk if callous is the right word but they just kinda gloss over that the victims were real people with their own hopes, dreams, likes, etc.
their lives weren’t very long but they deserve to be remembered for who they were, not how they died
It's bizarre to hear cases like this when I was a kid, my brother missed a lot of school and social services got involved and it was so insane-we couldn't get them out of our lives, they were super intrusive for no reason. My brother was just a kid with bad anxiety, he went to therapy, there was no need...
I think this video is the exact example of why there is a need. Without this attitude to leave no stone unturned is risk of cases like this become much more probable. Kids missing school can be a tail tale sign of stuff going on behind closed doors. I fully understand and commend social services for covering it fully.
That's the thing isn't it? They get all into your shit when there's nothing wrong but when there is a problem where the hell are they?
i missed a lot of school due to my health and they woudlnt leave us alone, harassed us and threatened jail time even though i had permission to not go to school from the school itself due to my health.
@@Claramata 👍👍👍👍
They bully the good parents honestly
If DCS workers are so over worked to where they don’t notice TWELVE complaints coming from the same family then they must be too busy for everyone. I can’t believe how there’s so many cases out there just like this, where a child gets seriously harmed or murdered by their parent(s) and DCS had multiple complaints and multiple chances to intervene but never did. Ugghhh Why is our system so damn broken?!? 😡
Yooooo my name is Kayleigh too :)
I can believe that caseloads are too high but even with oversized caseloads, it shouldn't mean action isn't taken when it's warranted. At worst, it should mean things happen more slowly than would be ideal -- not that nothing is done at all, ever. So I don't buy any caseworker's claim that their gross neglect and misconduct is simply down to too many cases. I've heard of other cases where children in the system are simply lost because a caseworker is claiming to have made monthly visits over a prolonged period of time, when they've never gone to check on the child. Being too busy should mean maybe you make a visit every 5-6 weeks instead of every four weeks -- or even every 8 weeks instead of every four. It damn well doesn't excuse simply abandoning children and expecting them to fend for themselves.
@@carolinegrova8707 That’s a great way of putting it!! It’s one thing to be behind or delayed on your workload vs completely ignoring a clearly BAD situation. If they’re going to be ignoring cases, it should be ones with 1 or 2 complaints but not MULTIPLE!!!
I know that I almost died shortly after my mom gained back custody of my brother and I. She was dangerously neglectful and a very selfish person. I don't really know why or how that I am alive because her friends strangled me several different times where I would black out and the last time I woke up to them talking about cutting me up and scattering me across the Midwest.
I've been a social worker for 15 years , and the notifications to child protection are huge. They are very under resourced for the demand. The government needs to fund the service properly or better yet preventative services as these services have many challenges fully investigating each notification.
Oh god, this one hit me so hard. I started shaking from the moment you mentioned the extreme exercise torture, because... that was what I went through. Listening to this was like listening to someone reading out a story about my own childhood, except with the dark twist at the end that I thankfully managed to avoid. It makes me so grateful that someone finally stepped in to help me before it was too late. God, those poor kids...
i went through it too, and at risk of sounding stupid, i didn’t realize that was a form of abuse until danielle phrased it as such. to me that was always the more human discipline option that i had available, if you catch my drift
I saw this case on tv. The nanny’s testimony was heartbreaking and and the mother’s testimony was infuriating to say the least.
I’m just commenting for the algorithm. I’m not going to be able to watch right now, her testimony still haunts me. It wasn’t gory but just the level of neglect and abuse smh appalling.
I felt so sorry for the babysitter and teachers. 😭
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I don’t get how a mother will just let her children be taken by their abusive father and claim you thought he will take care of them well really
@@gossiptownwithbelle9636 yass queen!! We love victim blaming!!
This case is disgustingly horrific, those children were tremendously failed, I can only hope they’re at peace.
I respect so much the fact you dedicate the end of the video to speaking about what the children were like and how special they were. May the memory of them live forever 🤍
Childhood development is so important. Absolutely not an excuse for grown-up Timothy, but his mother's actions caused him to be unable to form emotional connections with anyone. There was a case from Eastern Europe, Romania?, with children who were never comforted or held as babies. They all are very fragmented adults. As you said, he had the resources to get help for himself and he didn't. He is responsible for the abuse and death of his children, I just wish he had known he needed it.
This was a rough one, reminds me of the Texan woman who drown her kids, and how the kids knew what she was doing, and how they pled for their lifes,"no, mommy,no" that story has always stuck with me, as i think this one will too. I'm glad ur taking some time, Kristen, its important to take care of urself. TY for ur hard work & take care, stay safe & enjoy ur time off.
Yes ,exactly those 2 cases stuck with me as well
1. damn. that's a messed up story. child abuse is never justified. all children deserve good parents.
2. her name's danielle.
Her name is Danielle.
Her last name is KIRsty. Not Kristen.
Andrea Yates drowning those kids still gives me nightmares.
I can't believe I've never heard of this case, living here in the States. No wonder some people think they can get away with it, until the media shows up(like Chris Watts) because cases like this happen and I've never heard about it🤯So very sad.
Thanks Danielle and congrats on the podcast! Love it!
I can't believe it either, especially since I live in the same area as the case. It doesn't surprise me how shit DSS was. They are AWFUL here and need extreme reform and training. They will seriously just hire anyone, whether they care about the work/have the credentials or not. It's disgusting.
Thank you for telling us all about the kids at the end. I’m so glad we got to know who they were and what they loved. They deserved so much better. I’m a mother to 2 boys and I can’t imagine losing them, let alone in such a tragic way they were lost. People who harm children are the most disgusting human beings. They should still be here.
I feel like the DSS fails so tragically because the system expects the parents to comply with the “safety plans” and try to hold the parents responsible for resolving the situation… it’s really sad and feels like it doesn’t actually protect children in need
The safety plans are usually awful, too. They're all "You should parent being nice to your kids. :)" but no how to sort the underlying problems. So even the parents who want to get better don't actually get the support to do so. They don't give mental health support. They don't give help with financial management. They don't help with anger management. They don't even follow up to see if it's holding up. Just a few sessions of "Parent nicely, be kind to your kids and make sure you feed them and keep them clean/warm. Alright now buddy? 😁 Alright, bye!" Such a bloody joke.
The ones involving children should ALWAYS hit you hard. These stories crush me. I hug, kiss, and tell my children I love them even more often after I hear of cases like this. May the monster's body and soul be forever tormented. Rest in peace, tiny angels. 💔
my father was extremely abusive as well, not nearly to this extent. But as my siblings and i have gotten older, i realize that we were never seen as children to him; we were an extension of him; we (my siblings and our mom) were his property essentially. We were denied many basic human respects if we did not do exactly as he expected of us; lots of what i now realize was manipulation and gaslighting. unfortunately i think i understand the mindset of an abuser. their victims are part of their identity; they are such weak people that they need to have power over someone else to feel any significance or purpose. hope this helps explaining how someone could do this to children. (ex; when my mother finally divorced him, he threatened to kill us/her several times. he faked his own suicide over the phone to my mom. he is a gun fanatic, and has all the basic check marks of a shooter. I was scared for months; still am sometimes.)
I had a dream in which I hugged my dad and woke up crying. He was a pretty big douche and now he pretends like everything is forgiven and forgotten. Haven't seen him in years. It hurts but I don't have anymore time left for toxic people in my life. My mother sometimes visits him though. Don't know why since he already has a new fiance.
The nanny on the stand was absolutely gut-wrenching and heart-breaking to watch! She loved those kids so much and I could just tell how guilty she felt even though her hands were tied and she did the very best she could! She literally had to sneak feeding the kids! That is just unimaginable!
I remember seeing the baby sitters testimony in court and it broke my heart. She had so much love for those children and you can tell she’ll be haunted by what happened for the rest of her life. Such a light in those babies lives.
It was heartbreaking that she had to sneak them food but I'm glad she listened to them and didn't tell their father 😢
As someone who can't have children & can't get approved for adoption cases like this hurt me down to my soul it's so heartbreaking there's so many people who would love children unconditionally but so many people who have kids don't deserve to be parents
This was one of the most heartbreaking cases I've ever come across. Not only because there were kids involved but EVERYONE, literally every single person who had known/ seen those kids, knew they were just not safe in that house and they tried doing the right thing SO MANY TIMES.
I don't just blame Timothy. Of course, he was an absolute horrible monster to be doing the most inhumane acts to his own kids. I also blame those DSS case workers.. they were equally horrendous people who just washed their hands off with just submitting a report EVERY . SINGLE. TIME even though they knew and saw with their own eyes the state of those kids.
I sincerely hope to DEVIL that all those people never found a moment of peace and were haunted by those innocent kids faces every waking moment of their life and beyond.
True statement. We can only hope as you said that the DSS workers are haunted by the faces of those kids
Everytime this guy faked cried for the camera it made my teeth itch 😒😒😒What a vile man. The only person who cared for them kids where the babysitter. Its hard watching her testimony because you can tell she just loved them all. Also well done Danielle on how well the podcast is doing you have absolutely smashed it.
Yes. And I feel like she called CPS after she was fired because she knew those kids had no one else once she left. They would beg her not to tell him she fed them because they would not be able to eat again 😢.
@@KPbouj I know it's heart breaking 😢
I’m crying I’m so angry at social services, the DSS are completely guilty for what happened here
Before I get into listening to this story while doing my Sunday super skincare routine, I just want to say CONGRATULATIONS for topping the charts!👏🏼 Not surprised through, you clearly have interest in what you do and your content is very easygoing to listen to. It’s like I’m gossiping with a friend who shares the same mystery/crime genre interest as I do.😝 You have a long-time listener here in Texas!
You are beautiful! Just needed to say that
A bit of self promoting... on every comment. Unnecessary.
@@dragonladygray1335 nice to see that you choose to see my intentions that way versus seeing me genuinely giving Danielle the credit she deserves. I hope your days get better to the point of you not assuming strangers of “unnecessary self-promoting”.💜
Me too in Oklahoma! Congrats!🥰
Self care Sundays are a must! Add a true crime case playing in the background and im in heaven
Every single woman on this platform, says "we don't want me to get emotional" I hate it! I hate that we tell women AND MEN it's not okay to show emotions! You're wrong! Showing emotions is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen! And I LOVE knowing that the people I watch have feelings!!! That you are a good person! And grateful! It's everything!!
And the most natural 🥰
@@LunnaJannah absolutely!! It's the most natural thing! And I like knowing they have these feelings
My son was sick for four years and then died. I had to keep working. People would tell me how “strong” i was. Then I couldn’t do it anymore and decided that showing emotion is actually the strong thing. People need to know that they aren’t the only ones who hurt. People should know that everyone goes through hurt. Putting on a stoic face and acting “strong” doesn’t actually help us as humans. We all need to know that it is okay and natural to hurt. We would all be better off if we didn’t expect people to think “strength” is shown via absence of emotion.
@@michelleb7399 I'm so incredibly sorry! I almost lost mine. For 4 days I had that void in my chest as I sat over her in the hospital being unable to talk to her or hold her. She was in a medically induced coma. It was the most painful thing I have ever experienced! And I got mine back! I wish I could hug you! It's your tears that shows me your strength! It's incredibly messed up that someone feeling these intense emotions APOLOGIZES!! EMOTIONS ARE GOOD TO BE FELT!! and that pain reminds us it's real! And I would rather live every day with it than go numb! I was in intense emotions for my baby after the shooting. I'm not sorry. Every day I went to work I had anxiety. Now she is home for summer. But I get to hold her! I know I am lucky! I hurt for you! And your pain isn't something bad. Other people SHOULD see it! And hopefully just empathize with you! I'm so incredibly sorry!
@@jennerally_correct Yes! I always tell people not to apologize for crying. There’s nothing to apologize for. I’m glad you got her back and I’m glad for her that she has another chance at life.
timothy reminds me of my father. its hard to say but he really does. its insane how their threats match up, the abuse aswell. especially the car situation...its insane how familiar it is to me. this was super hard for me to go through because of how similar my situation was to this, but i was too curious to drop it. some people just dont deserve children or relationships.
Sadly, child protective services in the United States are a joke. I have dealt with them 3 separate times in my life and seen it happen to 2 other people/families in my life.
With my case alone, I was taken away from my mother twice when I was very very young because my sperm donor wanted vengeance on her for getting out of his reach. He had abused her for years and even tried to strangle her with a telephone cord, but he only wanted to strangle her enough to kill me while she was 8 months pregnant. The courts sided with him because my mother had books on other religions other than Christianity (Buddhism, Wiccan, and books by Anne Rice). My mother had to go to parenting classes, get rid of her books and other things before I could be in her custody again.
The 3rd time I had dealt with CPS, I was about 12 and my mother had called them because I had gotten second degree sunburns all over my body and my sperm donor had tried killing himself in front of us with a sawed off shotgun. Why? Because he had gotten hammered, cheated on my step mother, and she was furious with him. When CPS came to speak to me, they took my statements, asked me what it was like at his place (being starved, locked outside for HOURS with no food or water during summer, no clean running water, no clothing, being hit hard enough to make me black out. And I should also mention I had a brother, half sister and step brother. The only one who wasn't abused was my half sister) and then they went to investigate. They called my mom back and said that there was very little food in the house and they (being sperm donor and my step mother) would fix it, and that they spoke to the family. They called me a liar, said it never happened, and that I was known for lying about things like that.
My life became so much worse after that situation because they obviously knew my mom was the one who called CPS. Every time he drank a beer, he mocked me. Every time he smoked a cigarette, he mocked me. Every time he refused to feed us (other than my half sister), he would laugh in our faces and give us the scraps, if there was any.
Eventually, my adoptive fathers family offered to pay for a lawyer to save us from the abuse (they always threatened to take my mom to court and we were poor poor). They ended up not fighting us and he gave up his rights with little to no issues. He has messaged me a single time in the past 11 years to tell me "I'm older now and a changed man" and he didn't even try to talk to us when we were going through the process.
My mother still blames herself every day for not challenging their threats to take her to court. We now know they never planned on actually doing it, but how were we supposed to know that? My mother fought so hard to try and protect us and CPS basically told her to back off.
My brother and I have been diagnosed with PTSD, severe depression, and we just have no trust for anyone outside of our family and closest friends. CPS dropped the ball for us and I have never forgotten that. But I have seen it more than just our case and it's disturbing. I have seen children taken away from good parents for less.... so why the abusers keep getting more chances is beyond me.
I'm so so sorry. I definitely know what it's like having ab abusive bio dad but not to this extent. This is absolutely horrible. I'm so so sorry, I hope you're in a better place you and your family ❤ I completely get sperm donars trying to get back, I was under constant supervision because he'd call social services of my mother when he was the abusive one. Like get out of my life, changed my ass he messaged me on my 18th for the first time in nearly a decade saying how he's changed and was so proud of who I'd become and then less than 2 weeks later went to prison for r*ping his wife. He was fucking awful.
I am so incredibly sorry you were treated like that 😞 It blows my mind how often CPS fails children in obviously awful circumstances, and I agree that I have seen them, many times, take children from good parents. I believe this has absolutely everything to do with money; who can afford to pay into the system and who can’t? The people who can afford to get harassed endlessly. The ones who can’t, who are often (but not always!) the parents of more vulnerable children, are the ones who get let go time & time again.
Oh Lord may u ur bro and mum find inner healing and he always get horrible nightmares that will drive him nuts
My friend is Amber's cousin and the way that man treated Amber is horrible and truly breaks my heart. I remember the trial. It was awful. He's a monster. I will never forget this
I live in lexington. im so sorry she had to deal with that. smh.
Wow, I'm sorry Amber had to endure so much abuse. Have you ever met the monster?
@@angelachristina I was just the same thing. He is one that I think just has a look about him, something visibly wrong with him...
@@jesschristabel4900 so true.
I've known amber since high-school and he was a monster towards her I felt horrible I had no way to help her I was in horrible marriage at the time myself but she has gone threw so much pain I'm just happy she remarried and had another daughter
The thing that angers me the most is that an abusers background is always used to try to soften the blow in a trial, it’s garbage, as an adult we ALL know right from wrong, any abuser makes a conscious decision to commit a crime, at some moment they know it’s wrong yet still carry out horrendous crimes, I love true crime for the simple fact it always amazes me how people do what they do and it’s all around us in the world but crimes are still carried out! But children that’s a whole different ball game, innocents suffering for me is a no no! I don’t have kids but I have nephews and nieces that I adore, wasn’t it bad enough a little boy died of a brutal exercise regime as a punishment but to go on and strangle his brothers and sisters, death is too good for that monster it’s too easy! May god cherish those angels and although they have passed they are now with someone who genuinely will care and nurture them for all eternity.
As for the SYSTEM failing them! Surely workloads are prioritised and if the same family is being reported over and over and over again is that not a red flag! Clearly not and 5 little children suffered because of neglect and incompetence, the system should stand trial too! Ok sorry rant over!
I will never feel bad for monsters like this when there's people who go through the same thing & dont go on continuing cycles of abuse
. I would also like to mention that what he did to his kids was pure evil. But can I add my two cents. Maybe it amounts to nothing. But almost always children grow through imitation. He had no one show him what a healthy relationship looks like. Nada. It was family generation upon of pain, anger and abuse. Even the “boot camp” was abusive.
From my perspective, I moved into an abusive home with my dad. That’s when I knew evil. Prior to this I didn’t know. But because I was 12 when I moved with him. So the age in which I went to him changed things. And I think cause I turned to books and I had a like 2 people looking out for me and basically showing me that what my dad was doing wasn’t normal. I think this changed in my up bringing. And what I knew to be right or wrong.I still fight demons. Intrusive thoughts. I’m petrified of having kids because of my genetics. Cause of videos like this. But I think for me I knew it was wrong cause I was shown something right. I was shown love prior to age 12
I don’t think when they show their childhood, I don’t think it’s a ploy for you to feel bad for them. I think they are just showing that they too where humans. Thry were kids. And kids imitate. Higher education does not necessarily mean you let go of childhood behaviours. And shi you saw. I think when they tell their back story. They want you to understand that this person had absolutely no hope. No love. No understanding of it. It’s not to soften the blow. But I think to show why they turned out the way they did
In the US a prisoner can petition for boot camp. Boot camp will drastically reduce a sentence. This is offered to offenders under the age of 36, and must be approved by the judge. Thus, boot camp was his choice, not mandated.
This happened in Lexington, SC. My kids went to Soxe Gotha elementary school there. This was the most difficult trial I have and still to this day stays with me. The babies mother tried so hard to get her babies back and filed reports on him. He had money though and she didn’t.
I also worked at Kirkland Correctional Facility where he was housed on death row. He is now housed across the street at Broad River CI.
Also heard through the grape vine “he tripped & fell” when he got to us. Bad fall if you catch my drift.
When the dss saw the kids where starving beaten extreme neglect why the hell weren’t they removed immediately! This is appalling! And heart breaking!!😢
This case is heartbreaking. I feel like DSS does this too much ! They take away kids from parents who don’t deserve it and almost ignore the parents who should have never had kids in the first place, especially when the evidence is In their faces.!!!! Those poor babies. 😢
I sincerely hope that these people of child protection services feel guilty for the rest of their lives. Even though they didn't do the strangling, they had multiple opportunities to help and did nothing.
They dont that's the problem they see it all the time they dont care. They focus on kids and families that really dont need them. They take the case were the grandparents are being jerks cause the girl doesnt want to be with their son. And they lie. Just to punish the girl. Its insane
The same country that wants to ban abortions, meanwhile having child services and social workers underpaid, overworked, and completely having their hands tied from being capable of rescuing children is cases like these. Not to mention foster homes where their neglected, and abused. Absolutely heartbreaking.. may they Rest In Peace. Every single person in their life failed them.
This breaks my heart. A moment of silence for the children. I couldn't even imagine the pain the mother felt knowing all of her babies are gone.
these stories really hit home. this is exactly what my father did to my family. the car story, that used to happen regularly. same with dss, we’ve had probably 14 cases open and then closed because he used to make us lie. breaks my heart.
I'm so sorry 😔
I’m sorry this happened to you love ): stay strong, you got this!! And you will only get stronger the more you heal your childhood wounds
I am so so sorry for you and your Family! Sending you all my love ❤️
I'm sorry you went through this. I hope you seek lots of help to heal X
I grew up in an impoverished Deep South town, and “CPS knows my family.” was something that was said every now and then by kids in my grade. It really didn’t matter what conditions any of us were in. Nothing was ever done. A friend showed a school counselor bruises up and down her legs and back, nothing. A friend told me his grandma threw a chair at him for defending his little brother, nothing. I didn’t even understand abuse because reactions were all “that sucks”. It was just a part of life. Child protection agencies in the south are a joke. It’s like they’re just there so that it looks like someone does their job.
I'm in the north and I know enough kids who had CPS cases open on top of my own and... They're not much better up here.
Think it's more to do with socioeconomic status than geographic location.
@@Claramata I have to agree with you here. I was in the north growing up and would regularly report abuse and nothing was ever done. Not by teachers, not by other parents, not by CPS. Socioeconomic status makes it "okay" to everyone who sees it.
I live in the South, in the Houston, Texas area. I have to agree about the socioeconomic difference playing a big role in the way in which CPS handles their cases. I've never personally been involved with CPS, but I have seen both sides. Sadly, as with most things in life money talks.
I grew up pretty middle class in Texas, poor once I escaped home to be on my own at 19. I tried every way I knew to get help, told people, teachers, at church, faked sick hoping a doctor would notice the marks, no one cared. Often they'd just tell my parents so I'd get beaten more.
That’s horrible, thinking about this case why weren’t the police called? Does it have to go via dss?
The dss is trash. They take kids from good parents because someone lied and leave the kids who actually need help. Ridiculous.
My grandfather, who I have been refusing to see for the last 15 yrs, pulled a stunt like the one Timothy did in the highway. It was one time where I thought life was over, luckily for me and his wife he managed to find a space to get back into the right lane, cause there was a massive truck incoming.
I'm so sorry you had to go through something like that! I pray your okay from that today & keep you distance from someone that evil
My dad would do it purposefully and also drive while so intoxicated that he'd swerve and I'd have to correct the wheel. I can't drive and I am a very nervous passenger. I'm also not in contact and I've asked family not to tell him about my children. I'm in my mid 30s and it's still with me.
Cases like this make me sick especially when social services could've stopped this from happening may those poor innocent babies rest in peace !! .... on a lighter note have a lovely well deserved week off bunnies and thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the hard work you do for us guys xxx
Danielle, I just want to say - your content is so good sometimes I forget you do makeup too! I recommended your channel to my mom and she was confused because she had never seen anything that had true crime & makeup. She couldn't care less about the makeup and wondered why I would share your channel with her, but I told her to trust me and just watch you! Side note- I do really like watching the makeup (you are so talented) but I would totally watch either way!! You are amazing love you!!! 💜💜💜
You are the only woman I've ever seen that makes every last imaginable shade of eyeshadow look absolutely gorgeous you're like a regular Picasso with that makeup and your stories are absolutely fantastic I watch them all the time by the way I'm a 60-year-old dude so I personally don't use makeup but it looks fabulous on you 💕
As someone who used to work in Child Welfare (key part "used to"), it was incredibly frustrating to see how flawed the system is. Kids were being removed from good homes, while those that were obviously being abused and/or neglected were not.
I remember a case (not one of mine) of a mother who burned their house down with their kids inside so they could run off with their new boyfriend who wanted her all to himself. Fortunately, the kids survived. Unfortunately, however, they were not removed from her custody.
DHS/DSS workers definitely are overworked and underpaid, but that's no excuse in this case and in the case shared in this video.
This makes me sick to the stomach. How tf were the kids given back to her?? just wow
@@sakshie7423 Not 100% sure, but likely due to their prior criminal record being clean and fulfilling other conditions in order to get their kids back. I will agree that it is sickening to hear about.
This is what I cant understand at all! I was abused every way for years upon years and not one came to intervene yet me with my children I had them and the school try and convince me I'm an abuser when my children are well taken care of and loved sincerely. To top it off, writing a report that discredit myself and my kids both to make herself look good on paper as a social worker. I don't understand why the children who are being absolutely abused and really terrorised aren't looked into or it takes too long but for me they were ready to take my kids away without knowing anything.
What the actual fuck? I don’t understand. Why were kids taken from GOOD families? Wtf kinda backward system is this? They sound like absolute SHIT.
@@sapphire1817 Unfortunately, that's not uncommon to have happen. The system can be helpful, but there are those who frustratingly fall through the cracks, get ignored, or the opposite occurs -- where kids were being removed from good homes and vice versa.
Hi Danielle, I’ve been watching your youtube videos for a while, and I really enjoy them. I would love if you could cover the case of Leigh Leigh. She was murdered in my city (Newcastle, Australia) and her story is so devastating and not covered by many true crime platforms. I think her case opens up a discussion about the treatment of young boys/girls in society and would be beneficial for you to cover!
Biggest failure here are the police/ social service/ law inforcement's negligence. Had they gave importance to the multiple reports, they could have saved those children.
I watched this entire trial. The father showed absolutely NO REMORSE. Unbelieveably evil person. Guillty.
I understand that these DSS workers are overwhelmed, but IDGAF! Their babysitters knew, the teachers knew, the community knew and if you have written down the words that "These children are starving?" It's on your hands as well!
I live in Lexington SC and when I tell you this case shocked the county, city, and town of Lexington I mean it was absolutely insane. We are all still in shock.
It was very devastating as well as heartbreaking and the thought of what those little angels were going through and the fact that that monster threw their bodies out in a farmer's field and drove away 💔
@@roserollins9800are you from Lexington sc too?! 😊
@@Fast-And-Very-Furious I have lived in Lexington since 1985 and still do
your tribute to the children at the end was beautiful. i want to concentrate on how gorgeous those kids were. it breaks my heart. i would give anything to have a child of my own and these wee babies only had a short time on earth. i want to cry. the only consolation is that they are with their Heavenly Father. bless them
I worked in children’s mental health back in 2012 and I remember doing in home services- let me tell you, social workers were rode hard and put away wet. Especially the good ones. Their case loads were so heavy they’d burnout and end up in situations just like this. I remember one client having three different social workers all within 6 months. No wonder those poor babies had no one advocating for them.
I’m so glad you’re doing a podcast. Loving your journey, Danielle!
i was in care from 13-17, had 6 different workers and lived in 5 group homes. I shouldve been taken away from my abusive mentally ill parents long before that the teachers and our neighbours called cps like 5 times i can remember but they didnt do anything until my mom tried to kill me and i jumped out the window and ran to my friends house barefoot in the snow.
Another example of why all homeschooled (or any kids not in school) should have mandatory home visits a few times a year. Social Services needs more funding, it’s insane that they never followed up.
I cried at the end when you started describing the kids. This also reminds me of a family I knew when I lived in the southern US. I hope the children of the family I knew are able to get out one day.
At times like this, I have to remind myself the reason we look at cases like this and analyze them is to try to prevent this from happening in the future. Hopefully this video can help someone.
You made a REALLY good point... If horrible things like this are not discussed, then they will be forgotten and history WILL repeat itself!
I know right, it's heartbreaking. My own sister is only 1 like Elaine and I got all choked up thinking about someone so small and innocent suffering such a trrible thing. Those poor kids...
This case is absolutely heartbreaking and almost brought me to tears. I cannot imagine how these children suffered daily. This case reminds me of the sad case of Gabriel Fernandez. Child services failed him too. All of these case workers should be held accountable for their actions, they did nothing to prevent this horrible situation. These children would still be alive if they acted.
It infuriates me that Timothy kept these children from their mom and decided to kill them instead?! That made no sense. What a disgusting human being.
Danielle, so proud of all your success and your time off is well deserved. Enjoy your time off and decompress 💕
I agree in the Gabriel Fernandez case that those caseworkers should be held accountable. Especially with how they acted and said in court about that poor child not being their problem… when it was their job to look out for him.
The whole child welfare/ children and families needs a cleanse because too many kids die at the hands of adopted/ foster/bio parents even when they are reported one too many times.
Who makes $80k and chooses to raise their family in a trailer like that?
DSS in every state needs to be SEVERELY and THROUGHLY AUDITED! It seems that DSS is never there when they need to be for the children. How has there been 12 reports against this man and NOTHING was done. As usual DSS has failed babies once again; the whole department should be fired and prosecuted for every child's life that has been snuffed out due to dss neglect. I bet that if they looked in the fridge and Timothy didn't have any milk in it for the children they would've taken the children away from him and put into foster care.🙄🤬
I cried so hard for these little angels. When it came to him disposing of the children I physically got ill. I pray he gets his upcoming in prison, they (prisoners) don't like his kind and make his time a living hell. I don't like to think these things, but people like Timothy really make my blood boil!
I watch you from South Africa you are such a good story teller, you the best and so nice.👌🌹👍
it annoys me that he did have several chances to change and break the cycle of trauma yet he did this. I truly believe that some people should never be parents, no child deserves this kind of abuse and trauma. I'm at a loss for words right now :< this is such a heavy case...
I rem this case. He drove around with his deceased kids in the car. He stopped by a Dunkin Donuts (during one of the 8 days) in my city for breakfast. They caught him on servaliiance camera. He parked his car away from the building near the dumpster. The thing is, I go to the same Dunkin Donuts for coffee! Everytime I drive by that dumpster I think about those kids. 😳
Love your commitment to sharing your research!
It’s difficult to “like” as these cases are all so horrific, but you have my absolute respect for bringing to light every time information I was unaware of.
Great job, not just in this case but all your postings!
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Once again the child "protective service" failed 5 young, beautiful, innocent children. Yet another reason to completely dismantle cps in every form and file charges against every worker who has failed and continues to fail to do their job! I am heartbroken! I am outraged!
This is so heartbreaking! It is frustrating to work at a school, report abuse, and have nothing happen. I think everyone would be shocked by the amount of parents that “homeschool” their kids after abuse is reported.
My heart absolutely broke listening to this case. I have recently become a first time mum and I have a lovely, gorgeous little boy and the love I feel for him is unmeasurable. I I love the absolute bones of my little boy, he means the absolute world to me and I will do anything and everything I can to protect him and look after him and give him the absolute best life ever. I will never ever understand parents that harm their children, it has never and will never make sense to me. How can you do that to your own flesh and blood? Those poor poor children. Parents that harm their children, or any child for that matter, deserve a special place in hell.
This was absolutely heartbreaking I’m literally crying about how sad this is. I thought the tribute at the end was so sweet and really touching - great job telling this story
I can't even begin to imagine the awful emotional pain that Amber went through losing all of her kids like that. At the same time she should've fought harder for them. In a way she failed them. She knew how bad Timothy was with the abuse but she still thought it was "better" that they stayed with their father but it wasn't. It resulted in their death. I feel for her but I also blame her for the tragedy that happened. Those poor kids..
$80,000 a year well paying? *cries in west coast*
This is absolutely heartbreaking!! Why wouldn’t they take these kids away! Them being hungry not just hungry but starving that alone should be deemed to take those kids away! This is so sad 😭
I truly can't understand why people are so abusive to their kids. It's so infuriating that there were so many chances to stop this and nothing was done. My daughter tells me daily how 'awful' I am and how terrible her life is. Thank goodness me telling her 'no' is the biggest of her problems (no - you can't play in traffic etc.).
YOUR PODCAST GETTING NUMBER ONE IN THE UK IS FANTASTIC, IM SO PROUD OH MY GOODNESS
The Case of Jennifer Schuett may interest you, he thought he killed her but she got him!
Me and my siblings were abused similarly. Even after almost all of the adults in our life found out, they never called the police or tried to help. We still live with our "dad" to this day, as we are all still minors. I am so heartbroken for these kids seeing how similarly we were abused. I just can't help thinking that this all wouldn't have happened if some people just did their bloody job. many prayers to the kids and their mom
I would need a week off after this case too. Your tribute to these babies at the end had me tearing up on the treadmill. Take good care of your heart & mind ❤️
Oh wow - this happened in my town 😳 (We just moved here a couple years ago) How horrible! I can also vouch that the South Carolina DSS system still is crap from experience with a family member. It’s so heartbreaking how these innocent children fall through the cracks of a broken system.
They all. Should get fire and start fr3sh have young blood eager to help and make a. Difference in the system
The sheer amount of children who were failed by CPS is horrific. If the case workers were held accountable for cases where the children were OBVIOUSLY IN DANGER I’m sure something would change. I’m unsure of how of a change that would be considered that CPS isn’t the only problem with children and the state
As a mom I just CANNOT. I can’t even watch these without bawling my eyes out. I hope somehow the stuff they inject this monster with does work and he suffers an agonizing death. These beautiful, precious babies did not deserve this!!! Shame on the case workers for failing to act. A similar thing happened in my home state of MI where a woman shot her kids bc she was suffering from severe mental health issues and even tho CPS was involved no one intervened. These are the worst stories and I wish somehow things could be changed! I’m sure during the pandemic it’s been worse for so many children.
All I can do is hug my babies so much tighter tonight and we all have to keep fighting with our votes and our time to make these types of services better for children!! My heart is just so so broken. RIP angels. 😢😔🙏🏻
You're amazing Danielle we love you covering cases like this. I sometimes struggle to find people who cover cases like you do where I can just listen while doing something else without the person covering the case sounding like a robot. My prayers go to all murder victims nobody deserves to die from murder. (Except murders of course) I usually don't leave comments like this but because I'm early I really felt I should leave a comment like this.
Edit: Also are spankings really considered abuse? My mother spanked me all the time as a child taught me well. She stopped though because I started to become not as troubling nowadays we'll spank eachother just as a joke but is it actually considered abuse?
yes it is considered abuse these days. I'm not saying it's ok to beat your kids with belt buckles and stuff like that but I was spanked as a child and occasionally had to go pick my own switch off the tree but I never considered my parents abusing me bc if it. I was misbehaving and it was my punishment and I learned a lot of respect and discipline from it so I'm on the fence on the "spanking debate" ..I think there is a line of where it's discipline and then abuse when you start using different objects and hitting a child somewhere besides their behind. I 10x would have preferred the spanking over being grounded for a month at time. And no I also didn't consider having my mouth washed out with soap for talking back abuse either. That was when i was a small child. When my stepmonster came into the picture at 11 that's when the actual abuse started with punches to the face, pulling my hair, trying to force a 40 yr old man onto me when I was 17. She pretty much tried selling me to him and talking me into it but even at 17 I knew it was wrong and yet when I tried to commit suicide bc I was so depressed I got one of the worse beatings ever bc I had embarrassed her to the school officials. Nobody picked up on the fact that it would be 100 degrees outside and I'm walking around in long sleeves to cover the bruises and the black eye I had to lie and say I walked into a tree branch.
@@Sixx323 oh my god. i'm so sorry about what your stepmonster put you through. i hope you're doing better now and that you're far away from that bitch.
if you say or do something intentionally harmful to a child, it's abuse.
As a child that was failed many times by the care system, this really angers me. If I wasn’t taken out of that place when I was, I would’ve been the Victoria Climbie case before that even happened. If it wasn’t for absolute dumb luck, I would’ve ended up like one of those children at the age of 3, and I thank the universe every single day that I am still living and breathing, and got taken out of my birth home when I did.
The worst part is that my abuse and neglect was reported 36 times. The only reason I was taken away is because my neighbour found me naked in the street (the front door had been left open, and I think I crawled out), and I was covered in flea bites and bruising. Thank you baby me for escaping that place 🙏
My heart goes out to amber and her now deceased children. To be taken in such a horrific way is awful for anyone, let alone a child. He had so many chances to stop what he was doing and he didn’t. Truly a monster, some people don’t deserve any second chances.
I’m currently studying to be a social worker, specifically to handle these kind of cases. I work with children now and it breaks my heart know there is evil hurting those who can’t protect themselves.
Those kids should have been taken away when DSS was called. All that bruising and THAT poor 6 year old so aweful and being strangled. Wow horrible. Thanks for telling the story. That govn. Agency that should take care of children are also responsible for the deaths of those 5 children. And to you please take a week off as you deserve it. See you in two weeks. I just love how emotional you get along with us.
At what part would you actually think he would be a good dad,when hes exposed them to violence and almost killed them in his car,,,I was abused by my husband for afew years and controlled by him but when he started hitting me in front of the kids I was gone when he went to work
I reading about how you gave credit to Bailey for this idea for makeup and crime.. I was wondering who did it first. Awesome of you to give credit where credit is due but clearly you were meant to do this! You’re fantastic at this and congrats on your growing Chanel!
I think Bailey has about quit with the murder mystery and makeup. She likes doing history.