Folks, let me tell you something. The Qing market is a blessing, because lumber and fabric is Qing cheap. Furthermore, there are events that allow you to leave the Qing tribute when they collapse. Furthermore, you can allow yourself to build at a French pace at level one of construction due to the fabric/wood price. Furthermore, colonising in Indonesia/Australia will give you rubber, gold, whales and oil, allowing you to grow late game. You have all the resources for all the game stages. Qing market also allows you to have infinite paper for universities in the early game.
@@rosehogenson1398 Step one: Use Chinese wood and fabric to build tooling workshops. Step two: Build Iron Mines. Step three: Sell the iron and tools within the Chinese market Step four: Massive profit margins.
Woah, that’s the most historically accurate Heavenly Kingdom I’ve seen yet! Usually I see it way in the west or north, which doesn’t make much sense from a historical standpoint. Still a bit larger than it was IRL, but really good lol
@@IronpenWorldbuilding Indeed, when mine happened, basically EVERYTHING but Beijing, Tibet, and Outer Manchuria became Heavenly Kingdom, but the capital was NW of Tianshan, lolwut.
Small fact: Joseon in the early 19th century is supposed to have 14-16M population. Paradox probably referred the population history of South Korea which only counts the half of the entire peninsula.
@@לעזאזלעםגוביידן Yes, V3 does. The country info tells you how many population it has instead of “pop”. As far as I remember, V2 showed the population number in the world statistics sheets that is exactly 4 times of “male adult” pops thou. V2’s HPM mod had Korea with 16M population which is equivalent to 4M country pop size at the starting screen.
paradox kinda put in a lot of false stats into the game, a bunch of african tags that were quite literally illiterate at game start for some reason starts with like literacy rates comparable to and sometimes even better than places that had quite high literacy rates like japan and some european nations
another funny one is that argentina for some reason has like no arable land despite the whole selling point of their entire country is that it has an abundance of arable land
as korean, i tried several time. and its really easy to do. just spam paper, tool, and clothes.(or anykind of consumable goods) because qing have big market, and its essential for yourself anyway, so you can make strong economy even after you get independence.
Another thing to note is that since you’re literally an equal owner in the Qing market due to the customs union, you can export any excess material that Qing owns and you’ll get a ton of shopkeepers thereby increasing the wealth of the poor and middle class and giving you huge trade centers.
Interesting to see that Vicky 3 runs slow in the late game for you too, thought it was my potato computer! Great run, might have to give Korea a go myself
Im literally trying to find a proper korea guide for 2 weeks and other than some guy with bad quality i couldnt find any. So this video was a literally blessing for me thank you so so much.
Sadly universities have at best a minimal impact on literacy; education laws then wealth are the biggest indicators of 'education access' (you can see this under population and checking an individual pop group) the qualifications given from the uni do help pops to upgrade more rapidly at least
Universities are also a good way to build up your Intelligentsia's political strength, as well as industrialists and PB to a lesser extent. Religious IG also gets a big boost from clergy in universities because there are more priest pops. I really enjoy going into the political map and seeing how my Intelligentsia might be powerful in Munich but my industrialists have their power base in the Rhineland and the Landowners and Farmers are based in the farms of Brandenburg while the Trade Unions and Petit Bourgeois and Church have their HQ in Berlin because that's where my trade center, universities and urban centre is biggest
Taiping Heavenly kingdom is a rebelion lead by someone that... Once had a dream that he is the brother of Jesus Christ, and start a cult from that There's a good video by Jack Racham on Taiping Rebelion/Heavenly Kingdom
Man Im literally halfway through a run doing the same thing you got so lucky with the heavenly kingdom spawning so early, Im in 1892 and Qing is stronger than ever, I think its partially because I have strengthened the Qing market so much as im #7 in gdp ahead of USA
no it is easy i did it after 4th attempt and if you know the basic mechanics you can make EVRY country a superpower even the Argentina that have 800k people at the start.
Well done mate, a question: how can you keep the number of radicals so low during the whole game? In my previous game their number was always above 70-80% of the population, even though the standard of living in my country was in the top5 worldwide. I always tried to enact laws that dont piss off many Interest groups, my tax rate was in the middle, and many times when i checked, their number increased because of the standard of living.
you can however over pops to see what is pissing them off, usually i find that some luxury good being slightly more expensive than for a country that is actually able to produce it locally is what causes mine to get angry, they dont quite seem to understand that tobacco doesnt really grow in sweden so I can't really get them cheap tobacco until I've fixed the state enough to go colonizing
How come? If they are terrible do they lower your offence/defence even if you technically have more troops? Or is it because you need more fleets to properly support the invasion?
the heavenly kingdom is a peasant rebellion that actually happened around the time in-game. In real life, it existed from 1851 to 1864, and it was lead by a man who claimed to be Jesus's younger brother and another prophet, the Chinese version of Mohemmed, if you will.
@@SnapStrategy for hard challenge release yourself as a subject. For butt clenching hard challenge, release yourself as an independent and try to survive without the British market
You can get kyusyu or tonkin as soon as you start a game with qing’s support. They will be terrified and just give you the state, which makes it unnecessary to land by ships as well as get sulfurs and rubbers, opiums…
The heavenly kingdom is the name the game gives the state spawned from the Taiping rebellion, when some Chinese guy declared himself the son of God and proceeded to convert a few million people to his new religion
I wonder, is it possible to get Heavenly Kingdom to industrialize more quickly than Qing? Does their Protestantism help in any way? Could they Westernise more efficiently and then win the war? I haven't played the game but I imagine the Western religion + fewer provinces to manage might make advancement easier.
thing is... westernization isnt really a thing in vic3 but yes logically speaking they would have it easier to westernize if it was a mechanic in the game as european powers would very much like a weak china that is reliant on them and if their entry point into china was more likeminded because of religion it's just a bonus for them
Folks, let me tell you something. The Qing market is a blessing, because lumber and fabric is Qing cheap. Furthermore, there are events that allow you to leave the Qing tribute when they collapse. Furthermore, you can allow yourself to build at a French pace at level one of construction due to the fabric/wood price. Furthermore, colonising in Indonesia/Australia will give you rubber, gold, whales and oil, allowing you to grow late game. You have all the resources for all the game stages. Qing market also allows you to have infinite paper for universities in the early game.
+Qing market is very stable, unlike the Austrian.
But tools and iron are so expensive...
British market is always the best. It’s like going to an expensive all you can eat buffet.
@@rosehogenson1398 Brother, you have iron in Korea and can provide tools for everyone.
@@rosehogenson1398
Step one: Use Chinese wood and fabric to build tooling workshops.
Step two: Build Iron Mines.
Step three: Sell the iron and tools within the Chinese market
Step four: Massive profit margins.
Woah, that’s the most historically accurate Heavenly Kingdom I’ve seen yet! Usually I see it way in the west or north, which doesn’t make much sense from a historical standpoint. Still a bit larger than it was IRL, but really good lol
I was just going to say this lol
@@IronpenWorldbuilding Indeed, when mine happened, basically EVERYTHING but Beijing, Tibet, and Outer Manchuria became Heavenly Kingdom, but the capital was NW of Tianshan, lolwut.
@@jts1702a For me apparently the heavenly kingdom is mongolia
GB probably forced Qing to release that area
Hesvibgly kingdom wasn't a country
Small fact: Joseon in the early 19th century is supposed to have 14-16M population. Paradox probably referred the population history of South Korea which only counts the half of the entire peninsula.
Yeah at least 14M, common prediction is 16M
does paradox count children as pop ? in Vic 2 they only count male adult pop
@@לעזאזלעםגוביידן Yes, V3 does. The country info tells you how many population it has instead of “pop”. As far as I remember, V2 showed the population number in the world statistics sheets that is exactly 4 times of “male adult” pops thou. V2’s HPM mod had Korea with 16M population which is equivalent to 4M country pop size at the starting screen.
paradox kinda put in a lot of false stats into the game, a bunch of african tags that were quite literally illiterate at game start for some reason starts with like literacy rates comparable to and sometimes even better than places that had quite high literacy rates like japan and some european nations
another funny one is that argentina for some reason has like no arable land despite the whole selling point of their entire country is that it has an abundance of arable land
as korean, i tried several time. and its really easy to do.
just spam paper, tool, and clothes.(or anykind of consumable goods)
because qing have big market, and its essential for yourself anyway, so you can make strong economy even after you get independence.
Another thing to note is that since you’re literally an equal owner in the Qing market due to the customs union, you can export any excess material that Qing owns and you’ll get a ton of shopkeepers thereby increasing the wealth of the poor and middle class and giving you huge trade centers.
Can we get a part 2 on this? I’m genuinely interested in more.
Interesting to see that Vicky 3 runs slow in the late game for you too, thought it was my potato computer! Great run, might have to give Korea a go myself
They probably have like two more years of optimization to catch up to 2010 standards.
I have a 2080TI and AMD ryzen 3900x and 32 gb of ram and lategame it runs really slow, every pc has performance issues I think
Im literally trying to find a proper korea guide for 2 weeks and other than some guy with bad quality i couldnt find any. So this video was a literally blessing for me thank you so so much.
You have served the dynasty well, you will be rewarded for your efforts!
Nice Korea is one of my favorite nations to play in this game. Being in Qing's market kinda sucks tho
Yeah i had a lot of fun playing them! Yeah being in their market sucks but can deffo be useful early game
Sadly universities have at best a minimal impact on literacy; education laws then wealth are the biggest indicators of 'education access' (you can see this under population and checking an individual pop group)
the qualifications given from the uni do help pops to upgrade more rapidly at least
was going to mention this -- I *guess* the clerks hired by govt admins are doing more to raise early literacy given the 20% base
Universities are also a good way to build up your Intelligentsia's political strength, as well as industrialists and PB to a lesser extent. Religious IG also gets a big boost from clergy in universities because there are more priest pops.
I really enjoy going into the political map and seeing how my Intelligentsia might be powerful in Munich but my industrialists have their power base in the Rhineland and the Landowners and Farmers are based in the farms of Brandenburg while the Trade Unions and Petit Bourgeois and Church have their HQ in Berlin because that's where my trade center, universities and urban centre is biggest
Taiping Heavenly kingdom is a rebelion lead by someone that... Once had a dream that he is the brother of Jesus Christ, and start a cult from that
There's a good video by Jack Racham on Taiping Rebelion/Heavenly Kingdom
never had to watch so many videos to learn about a game
IRL Heavenly kingdom was headed by a guy who thought he was Jesus' brother
Man Im literally halfway through a run doing the same thing you got so lucky with the heavenly kingdom spawning so early, Im in 1892 and Qing is stronger than ever, I think its partially because I have strengthened the Qing market so much as im #7 in gdp ahead of USA
It's my favourite country to play in vicky. Industrializing in the Qing market is so much fun lol
If anyone can make Korea a superpower it's this mad lad
no it is easy i did it after 4th attempt and if you know the basic mechanics you can make EVRY country a superpower even the Argentina that have 800k people at the start.
Oooh you play Vicky as well? Maybe I'll get to learn it after I get good at ck3. It only took me 3k hours to get good at eu4 😝
Will there be a part 2, 3 of this? I would like to see Korea annex all of Japan and North Eastern China & Sakhalin.
Well done mate, a question: how can you keep the number of radicals so low during the whole game? In my previous game their number was always above 70-80% of the population, even though the standard of living in my country was in the top5 worldwide. I always tried to enact laws that dont piss off many Interest groups, my tax rate was in the middle, and many times when i checked, their number increased because of the standard of living.
you can however over pops to see what is pissing them off, usually i find that some luxury good being slightly more expensive than for a country that is actually able to produce it locally is what causes mine to get angry, they dont quite seem to understand that tobacco doesnt really grow in sweden so I can't really get them cheap tobacco until I've fixed the state enough to go colonizing
Been waiting for someone to do a video on this one.
Naval invasions require admiral has at least as many ships as troops in the invading army.
if you hadnt activated conscripts you would have naval invaded all 3 the first go with no issues mate
How come? If they are terrible do they lower your offence/defence even if you technically have more troops?
Or is it because you need more fleets to properly support the invasion?
@@SnapStrategy You need at least as many Flotilla as Battalions to not suffer the Insufficient Naval Support Debuff
Mass conscription isn't bad the only thing that it doesn't allow you is to upgrade like machine guns and reccon
Hmm yes lore of Vic 3 Korean resurgence momentum 100
the heavenly kingdom is a peasant rebellion that actually happened around the time in-game. In real life, it existed from 1851 to 1864, and it was lead by a man who claimed to be Jesus's younger brother and another prophet, the Chinese version of Mohemmed, if you will.
Can you try Singapore next :D
Ill check them out! :)
@@SnapStrategy for hard challenge release yourself as a subject. For butt clenching hard challenge, release yourself as an independent and try to survive without the British market
My god your killing me with that compacitator 🤣🤣🤣
plot: korea already is a global power in REAL LIFE (the both are for many reasons).
Try playing the Philippines next time. I'm sure that'll be a decent challenge. 👌😁
Did you try demanding independence at the start, hoping great britain will support you in any of the trial runs?
Why not build ports to improve market access?
You can get kyusyu or tonkin as soon as you start a game with qing’s support. They will be terrified and just give you the state, which makes it unnecessary to land by ships as well as get sulfurs and rubbers, opiums…
"Democratic republic of Korea"
Uh oh.
The heavenly kingdom is the name the game gives the state spawned from the Taiping rebellion, when some Chinese guy declared himself the son of God and proceeded to convert a few million people to his new religion
You didn't have a dimplomatic play against the Qing for your freedom because I think you had too good relations with them
LETS GOO
If only you could have exported K-pop, might have become Number 1
축하합니다 당신은 한글을 발견하셨습니다. ㅋㅋ
u do know qing have paper troops and u could ravage him 30 years earlier?
So, a virtual Chung-hee
Your first move as Japan should always be colonialism tech. Ill be damned if I Have a Russian Hokkaido border
Damn, how much did Kim Jong-Un sponsor you to make this video?
£10, Just trying not to spend it all at once
Feel like a good next challenge would be Albania
For what ?? 🤔🤔 For stealing chickens and eggs ??
Nah long live the monarchy 🙏✊
Bro please do Burma please 🙏😭
Every youtuber forcing themselves to play this game
Bruh the person in thumbnail is a Chinese, and opium was never a thing in Korea.
no one.
german tokyo.
So refreshing to see how history is reversed lol
stuggling
Third
Love your videos
Thankyou man! :)
I wonder, is it possible to get Heavenly Kingdom to industrialize more quickly than Qing? Does their Protestantism help in any way? Could they Westernise more efficiently and then win the war? I haven't played the game but I imagine the Western religion + fewer provinces to manage might make advancement easier.
thing is... westernization isnt really a thing in vic3 but yes logically speaking they would have it easier to westernize if it was a mechanic in the game as european powers would very much like a weak china that is reliant on them and if their entry point into china was more likeminded because of religion it's just a bonus for them