Mark E. Smith & Kirsty MacColl - 1988 Interview Night Network UK

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  • Mark E. Smith (The Fall) and Kirsty MacColl as guest reviewers on Night Network, The Video View. January 16th 1988. Singles reviewed by The Stranglers, Godley & Creme, Fleetwood Mac, Along with presenter Mick Brown, they are reviewing new singles releases for that week. In 1988, I recorded the full show, then copied it onto another tape, editing out most of the video clips at the time, just keeping all of the interviews. Tape archive number 270 Scotch EXG+ E180, digital archive 4012
    #thefall #scottishteevee #pogues

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  • @ScottishTeeVee
    @ScottishTeeVee  4 роки тому +18

    1 of over 2000 rare videos on this channel, all taken from my videotape collection, new video everyday, so Subscribe, comment, share and enjoy for free 🙂

  • @andrewmoonbeam321
    @andrewmoonbeam321 4 роки тому +52

    I love Mark cracking up Kirsty. RIP both. Fantastic original souls!

  • @Night_Shift_Sister
    @Night_Shift_Sister Рік тому +10

    I really love the Mandinka video, honestly it holds up. Sinead's striking presence and her voice just soars! I miss both Mark and Kristy, but thankfully their influence is still felt today

  • @MadderMel
    @MadderMel 3 роки тому +17

    Great !! Not seen this before ! Kirsty very lovely ! And Mark E Smith , a very handsome looking man in his youth !

    • @MadderMel
      @MadderMel 3 роки тому +2

      Also Mick Brown , very good ! Never saw him until now !

    • @ScottishTeeVee
      @ScottishTeeVee  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks for watching and commenting, glad you enjoyed this

  • @jennytaylor3324
    @jennytaylor3324 3 роки тому +34

    Who'd have guessed we'd be sitting here in 2020 without these 2.

    • @ScottishTeeVee
      @ScottishTeeVee  3 роки тому +8

      I certainly would never have imagined it.

    • @alexjewell2351
      @alexjewell2351 3 роки тому +7

      A tragedy x

    • @Johnconno
      @Johnconno 3 роки тому +2

      Me, I remember watching this and thinking in 2020 all these people will be dead.
      Strange, Eh?

    • @chancesareshewears
      @chancesareshewears Рік тому

      we are

  • @fuckamericanidiot
    @fuckamericanidiot 3 роки тому +21

    The 90s were BRUTAL on Mark!! He looks healthy here

    • @mikewilson3581
      @mikewilson3581 3 роки тому +3

      I have an issue of Q Magazine from 2000 with Smith in it. The photos make him look at least twenty years older than he should have been.

    • @Jo3yW
      @Jo3yW 3 роки тому +11

      @@mikewilson3581 yeah who wouldve thought that 3 day speed and booze binges were bad for your health 😆

  • @dmf2475
    @dmf2475 3 роки тому +17

    RIP MarK and Kirsty.

  • @04opocin
    @04opocin 3 роки тому +11

    The singles discussed are ''All day and all of the night'' by The Stranglers, ''Jingo'' by Jellybean, ''Plug me in'' by Scarlet Fantastic, ''Family man'' by Fleetwood Mac, ''A little piece of heaven'' by Godley & Creme, ''Mandinka'' by Sinéad O'Connor and ''Are you sure'' by So.

  • @yergrannyonbongos5422
    @yergrannyonbongos5422 3 роки тому +14

    Odd that they discuss The Stranglers' cover of a Kinks song, and have a bit of a general chat about cover versions, but don't relate that to The Fall's forthcoming release of their version of The Kinks' 'Victoria'.

  • @alternativefm328
    @alternativefm328 4 роки тому +4

    Excellent thanks for uploading

  • @TrapperMilan
    @TrapperMilan 3 роки тому +11

    Mark must have been relaxed and comfortable here, , you soon knew when he wasn't.

  • @leejones8582
    @leejones8582 Рік тому +4

    RIP to these 2

  • @oliverbayley3509
    @oliverbayley3509 3 роки тому +6

    Lovely photo of Richard Madeley in the thumbnail.

  • @404dia
    @404dia 4 роки тому +66

    Within 2 years they'd both done Kinks covers!

    • @brianpomeroyfilms
      @brianpomeroyfilms 4 роки тому +4

      Yep Victoria but put me out of my misery which did she do?

    • @404dia
      @404dia 4 роки тому +7

      @@brianpomeroyfilms Days

    • @brianpomeroyfilms
      @brianpomeroyfilms 4 роки тому +3

      @@404dia of course thanks.

    • @animatiz
      @animatiz 4 роки тому +3

      404dia 10:47 it’s mentioned

    • @rawheadrex8487
      @rawheadrex8487 4 роки тому +4

      I'm noy sure what is "lyrically interesting" about "Victoria" though,

  • @jamesoconnor3017
    @jamesoconnor3017 3 роки тому +6

    Kirsty MacColl will Always be absolutely gorgeous! ❤️🎶🙏🎶❤️

    • @ScottishTeeVee
      @ScottishTeeVee  3 роки тому +3

      Absolutely!!

    • @cubecubesson6779
      @cubecubesson6779 3 роки тому

      I always was was under the impression she was Irish. She was hot though God bless her soul

    • @kyachdistent1301
      @kyachdistent1301 3 роки тому +2

      I love the way she comes out with home truths. "People use videos to sell absolute rubbish". God, never a truer word and absolutely prophetic since the 80s! You could NEVER have a show like this from the mid-90s onwards. It's too critical and truthful. NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO CRITCISE (TELL TRUTH) ABOUT ANYTHING IN SHIT BIZ NOW! Pathetic and criminal, especially as all there ever IS to slag off as the industry is utterly full of shit.

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs 2 роки тому +3

    I like it that The Fall did covers.

  • @scottward6974
    @scottward6974 3 роки тому +7

    I love the way Kirsty talks, she's got a lovely voice!

  • @rubypepper2700
    @rubypepper2700 4 роки тому +6

    Thank you for uploading. I'm a huge Kirsty fan.

  • @edwardmulholland7912
    @edwardmulholland7912 4 роки тому +6

    Thank you for this. If you have Any more footage of these 2 it would be great If you shared it. Two great artists.

    • @ScottishTeeVee
      @ScottishTeeVee  4 роки тому +4

      I'll see what I can find. To be honest I never realised I had taped this until last week. I recorded it, mislabelled it on the video tape and then as I digitised the tape last weekend this recording appears, a forgotten wee gem.

    • @pilgrim....
      @pilgrim.... 3 роки тому +3

      I just started looking at this guy and his work and history. This is the most ''normal '' I've found so far. I find Mark a most fascinating individual a rare character. Thanks for this very much appreciated.

  • @alternativefm328
    @alternativefm328 4 роки тому +6

    Well said Kirsty about Fleetwood Mac

  • @swingsandroundabouts6138
    @swingsandroundabouts6138 3 роки тому +19

    Back when artists were allowed honest opinions of their own before the Gary Barlow school of getalong flattened everything into a beige soup

  • @1599maybole
    @1599maybole 6 місяців тому +3

    Groups with bass players with ponytails- out. Cheers Mark 😂

  • @lynchmaleideal
    @lynchmaleideal 2 роки тому +4

    MacColl defending her opinion of ‘Tango In The Night’ was hilarious and Mark saying ‘they’re part of a patronising market’ killed me lol

    • @PS987654321PS
      @PS987654321PS 6 місяців тому

      She didn't defend her position and then admitted she didn't listen to it.

    • @NickSBailey
      @NickSBailey 5 місяців тому

      it wasn't defending it just admitting other people may like it but not for her

  • @_2-FA
    @_2-FA 2 місяці тому

    Mental! I used to watch NIght Network back in the 80s. It was the first time I saw Craig Charles. This would have been aired just before my 14th birthday. I really looked like shit every morning lmao.

  • @gerardmurphy8797
    @gerardmurphy8797 3 роки тому +22

    Mark E Smith looks like a young Richard Madeley here 😂😂

    • @StratsRUs
      @StratsRUs 2 роки тому

      Brilliant

    • @BroonParker
      @BroonParker Рік тому

      Just thought the same. Was Judy on keyboards?

  • @nasskhan4543
    @nasskhan4543 3 роки тому +6

    Both kirsty & mark did kinks covers.

  • @NoCoverCharge
    @NoCoverCharge Рік тому

    Two tragic losses ! God bless them both

  • @pressureworks
    @pressureworks 9 місяців тому +1

    MES smiling, laughing, having a good time.

  • @M2Mil7er
    @M2Mil7er 3 роки тому +10

    Bloody hell, Mark E. Smith looks like Richard Madeley in the thumbnail.

  • @nonconnahordeath
    @nonconnahordeath 3 місяці тому +2

    Mark was such a handsome dude before the drugs and booze ravaged him. It's hell what addiction will do to someone.

  • @buckbumble
    @buckbumble 3 роки тому +17

    I don’t know why but Mark looks a lot like Richard Madeley to me

  • @antonhaq3503
    @antonhaq3503 Рік тому +3

    Ironic that Mark was about to release a Kinks cover!

  • @bukowski20
    @bukowski20 3 роки тому +9

    Fair play to Kirsty. She held her own with the often-intimidating MES.

    • @BroonParker
      @BroonParker Рік тому +1

      She had already worked with Shane and the Pogues. Surely this will have toughened her ready for Mark.

    • @mackenziebowles2443
      @mackenziebowles2443 8 місяців тому

      He couldn't be more wholesome! lol. It's like the other vid of him reviewing singles. he just kind of likes them all and says like one barely scathing thing.
      It's funny for his reputation, I find like 95% of his interviews on here are him in good spirits and the comment section is invariably 'wow Mark is in good spirits here' lol.

  • @meangene408
    @meangene408 3 роки тому +4

    I thought that was Richard Madley on the thumbnail.

  • @rhessex
    @rhessex 3 роки тому +4

    I miss the days when tv studios had house sparrows and seagulls.

  • @thirdeye147
    @thirdeye147 3 роки тому +1

    Love The Stranglers

  • @gazriley624
    @gazriley624 2 роки тому +2

    RIP Kirsty

  • @PaintyCoUk
    @PaintyCoUk 3 роки тому +1

    I have that Art Deco Sofa and Chairs!

  • @udeychowdhury2529
    @udeychowdhury2529 3 роки тому +10

    Richard Madeley

  • @kollusion1
    @kollusion1 3 роки тому +3

    Great to see real people speaking their own mind, rather than saying everything is great. Would have liked to have seen the budget stretch to include a couple of remote controls for the guests tho, that wouldn't happen today would it! Cheers.

  • @margaretmoore7034
    @margaretmoore7034 Рік тому +1

    I never knew Richard Medley was a singer in the fall..

  • @kinomusic9110
    @kinomusic9110 3 роки тому

    Radio is definitely Mick Brown's forte.

  • @gravytopic
    @gravytopic 3 роки тому +3

    Could you list the redacted videos? I couldn't tell what some of em was... which Sinead tune was it, for example...

    • @ScottishTeeVee
      @ScottishTeeVee  3 роки тому +6

      I know some were
      Stranglers "All day and all night"
      Fleetwood Mac - Family Man
      Godley and Creme - A little piece of Heaven
      Sinead O'Conner - Mandinka
      So - Are you Sure?

  • @tuna2k10
    @tuna2k10 4 роки тому +4

    Is the presenter Pat Sharp's pal Mick, from Pat & Mick?

  • @themelted4614
    @themelted4614 4 місяці тому

    Decent video love mes and kirsty. Both missed And a Sad loss. Mark to much beer an whizz and lovely kirsty sadly lost her life to soon courtesy of some whopper🎉

  • @MikeL-7
    @MikeL-7 Місяць тому

    For a chap who thought interviews were embarrassing he didn’t half put himself about that Mark Smith.

  • @derekspitz9225
    @derekspitz9225 3 роки тому +27

    Mark looks like Richard Madelay's evil twin.

    • @BroonParker
      @BroonParker Рік тому

      But which twin was the evil one?

    • @derekspitz9225
      @derekspitz9225 Рік тому

      @@BroonParker Madelay, of course.

    • @anthonybrady-lb5ve
      @anthonybrady-lb5ve 22 дні тому +1

      Yes. Scary isn't it? And is that really Kirsty or Celestine? Sleep well my friend

  • @carmenbalcomb4106
    @carmenbalcomb4106 7 місяців тому +1

    I don't understand why they panned the Stranglers after about 60 seconds😕

  • @Farmlandsfallfan
    @Farmlandsfallfan 3 роки тому +5

    I wonder if Lol Creme remembers playing footy against MES

  • @eXiLe824
    @eXiLe824 2 роки тому +2

    Interesting time capsule that at this time they hadn't heard of Sinead O'Connor. They make fun of her name like everybody in the world wouldn't know it 2 years later.

    • @ScottishTeeVee
      @ScottishTeeVee  2 роки тому +1

      Very true. Thanks for watching and Commenting

  • @krisscanlon4051
    @krisscanlon4051 Місяць тому

    That they made them walk all that way to push a silly stopper 😂 oh the days gone by

  • @pauld724
    @pauld724 11 днів тому

    100k on making a video (according to her 2:26). videos were very low overhead in those days. tons of money being a Music-video creator back then. everyone was so hilariously hoity. fun times in make belief.

  • @PeteJones81
    @PeteJones81 3 роки тому +5

    MES is much more enjoyable to listen to when he's younger and much soberer.

  • @alternativefm328
    @alternativefm328 4 роки тому +5

    Yep Bass players with Ponytails OUT

  • @chrisodriscoll9800
    @chrisodriscoll9800 4 роки тому +9

    as about as close as MES got to selling out

    • @ScottishTeeVee
      @ScottishTeeVee  4 роки тому +3

      Yeah, very true

    • @nellsun2521
      @nellsun2521 3 роки тому +4

      I've seen a few of these 80s pop tv shows with him on it. In Morrissey's book he said he had to do it because The Smiths weren't getting any daytime radio airplay whatsoever (Just Peel at night time) so he had to 'promote' the band this way instead. Same situo for MES here probably.

  • @Thomas-vc3un
    @Thomas-vc3un Рік тому +1

    Stranglers cover? White Room, except the big baggy pants. Loved that record. My asshole brother threw it out.

    • @ScottishTeeVee
      @ScottishTeeVee  Рік тому +1

      It was a Kinks song that the stranglers were covering, All Day and All of the night

    • @Thomas-vc3un
      @Thomas-vc3un Рік тому +1

      Sorry. It was white room by Cream.

  • @lawrencefinch-hatton6231
    @lawrencefinch-hatton6231 3 роки тому +3

    Thought it were Rich Madeley in thumbnail.

  • @kyachdistent1301
    @kyachdistent1301 3 роки тому

    When the hell was 'Family Man' ever a network smash?

  • @silversteel6312
    @silversteel6312 3 роки тому +3

    That’s Richard Madeley. Nice try though.

  • @stevelangridge1755
    @stevelangridge1755 3 роки тому +1

    The emperor has no clothes.

  • @stubvidmedia8903
    @stubvidmedia8903 3 роки тому +1

    They didn’t like the brass section

  • @bindgagger
    @bindgagger 3 роки тому

    The late 80s: a time when pop music was crap and the critics (mostly those artists who couldn't make as much money) knew it.

    • @annother3350
      @annother3350 3 роки тому +1

      But the dance music went interstellar - aciiiiiiiid!!

  • @Johnconno
    @Johnconno 3 роки тому

    Is she the lady who was crushed by a piano on new-years-eve?

    • @kes11
      @kes11 3 роки тому +1

      No, she was sliced open by a speed boat, killed instantly...as tragic as it sounds...

    • @Johnconno
      @Johnconno 3 роки тому

      @@kes11 Clean...

  • @NickSBailey
    @NickSBailey 5 місяців тому +1

    lol toughest couple of judges to please, even calling xray spex dated but I suppose it was by the end of the 80s sounds fresh again now, late 80s had some really rubbish music I turned to the pirate stations for better stuff

    • @ScottishTeeVee
      @ScottishTeeVee  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting Nick, scary to realise this is now 36 years ago, almost to the day😮

  • @Oooo-bi7bi
    @Oooo-bi7bi 10 місяців тому

    I love Kirsty and her unfortunate early demise is all the proof I need that there is no god.

  • @tonymack66
    @tonymack66 4 роки тому +4

    Let's face it The Fall's version of 'Ghost In My House' wasn't all that, eh?

    • @ScottishTeeVee
      @ScottishTeeVee  4 роки тому +4

      It's Ok, not a fav of mine to be honest. The Fall did some weird and wonderful cover versions over the years.

    • @tonymack66
      @tonymack66 4 роки тому +2

      @@ScottishTeeVee 'Victoria' by The Kinks was a good cover of theirs, but 'Mr Pharmacist' was a bit so-so for me, too.

    • @colallison6152
      @colallison6152 3 роки тому +2

      Lost in music was a classic.

    • @Jo3yW
      @Jo3yW 3 роки тому +1

      @@colallison6152 legend of Xanadu is prob my favourite fall cover, but most of them are great

  • @palmereldritch8277
    @palmereldritch8277 3 роки тому +2

    Videos are evil things and they do sell rubbish.

  • @thetubekrawler2876
    @thetubekrawler2876 3 роки тому +2

    The last interview he did was complaining about refugees coming to England. Sad.

    • @nasskhan4543
      @nasskhan4543 3 роки тому +13

      Why? He is entitled to his opinion.

    • @1e0s
      @1e0s 3 роки тому

      @@nasskhan4543 This is a refreshing opinion. Should be banned!!

    • @OldSethOnetooth
      @OldSethOnetooth 3 роки тому +6

      Actually he was complaining of it being almost exclusively young men of fighting and breeding age who were coming.

    • @StratsRUs
      @StratsRUs 2 роки тому

      @@OldSethOnetooth 'Breeding age'.

    • @attentionscum9040
      @attentionscum9040 Рік тому +5

      MES had some very nuanced political opinions which don’t sit perfectly right with people on Left and Right, which is pretty on brand for the man.
      His concern wasn’t “refugees” in general. It was - whether you agree or not, whether he was accurate or not - that a disproportionate amount of immigrants fleeing dangerous countries were young men. He thought it was their duty to stay behind and defend their land, send the women and children to the safe countries and leave themselves till last.
      He also felt that the influx of immigrants could indirectly serve to further marginalise the white working-classes, to whom he identified with fiercely and championed. He was not concrete on this, it was just a concern.
      So yeah. I don’t particularly agree with MES on most of this, but i think it’s worth clarifying that MES wasn’t just a straightforward typical Daily Mail reader sort

  • @PS987654321PS
    @PS987654321PS 6 місяців тому +1

    How can Kirsty not like Fleetwood Mac or 'Tango in the Night'?

    • @ScottishTeeVee
      @ScottishTeeVee  6 місяців тому +1

      Great songs grow on you, perhaps.

    • @marknewbold2583
      @marknewbold2583 6 місяців тому +1

      She had good taste

    • @PS987654321PS
      @PS987654321PS 6 місяців тому +1

      @@marknewbold2583perhaps…but certainly not in this instance.

    • @PS987654321PS
      @PS987654321PS 6 місяців тому +1

      She was just pretending to be "edgy".@@marknewbold2583