After watching both reviews, as a 80-90 golfer seems the real question is if I had to chose the M5/M6 or Epic Flash at a yr old discount which would i pick? As I am playing 2016 Apex irons and have been using an Aero Burner I am thinking time to switch to Epic Flash.
Maverick... Orange is my favorite color. The way they promise 10 more yards every year. I'm surprised we are not all driving 500 yards plus. Great video sir!!
*Note* I didn’t show the shots in the fairway as it was very wet in parts so some balls didn’t roll and some balls did. So it would have been an unfair test
With that much more club head speed but producing 3-4 mph less in ball speed you were definitely not hitting the Mavrik as well or as close to the sweet spot. If you adjusted for the same smash factor as you hit the EF I would assume you would have gotten 5 yards or maybe even more. Certainly not a definitive test especially if you have been gaming a EF and are potentially more comfortable with it than the Mavrik. Familiarity breeds contempt.
Between this review, Cobra Speedzone and Taylormade SIM, it doesn’t seem like investing in a new model in 2020 makes sense. Better off to go get 2019’s model on sale instead
@@RickShielsPGA would be a really interesting review of all drivers over the last 5 years from the big brands, test there models and see the difference. So M1 vs SIM etc.
I’ve hit both the SIM and Mavrik at a golf shop. They both went significantly further then my normal drives, carrying around 530 for both of them, so I knew something was up, or these were fantastic drivers, did some brief investigation and noticed some had cranked the distance on the simulator to x2😂
I've figured since I've been golfing with every ball going 5 yards further and every club going 5 yards further. The par 5's should be par 3's. Correct?? Let's rock!!
Rick, this is probably the best new club review of all time. This and the Taylormade SIM review were exactly what the golfing public want - an in depth, honest review, that compares this years product to last years.
Guy and Rick, This helped me a ton. I was “Fitted” more like marketed a Maverik Max 10.5 loft. After watching this video I fell confident adjusting it to neutral and -1. First hit off the tee was straight as an arrow. Your content gives new golfers confidence to make decisions on how we play and set up our gear.
Credit where credit is due. Your channel is by far the best golf content on UA-cam. It's not just the content either, your unbiased professionalism on camera is second to non, there's no gimmicks or jokes and I feel like I'm watching someone who is genuinely trying to give help and advice to us mugs who will do anything to hole more putts, gain a few yards and so on. Also credit doesn't just belong to you as the camera and editing team you have are exceptional. The graphics on screen the cut aways the sound are again something I would expect to see on the golf channel! Between you and My Golf Spy (I love data) I have all my golfing media I will ever need. Keep up the good work and thank you!
Humans have supersonic stealth fighter jets but golf club manufactures are trying to convince us they’re still perfecting the relatively simple aerodynamics of a golf club so they can sell us a new one every year 😂😂
I got fitted with the Standard Mavrik Aldila Rogue stiff shaft. Much better than my M4 off the rack. The heavier shaft helped gain 10-20 more yards off the tee. 70 grams up from 50 grams.
I recently discovered your youtube channel and love it. I have only played sporadically over about 20 years and never really improved. I still use a now very old Nike SQ Dymo, which by today's standards makes an awful ping noise lol. I watched a video of yours last night about getting better driver distance and went to the range tonight and it was amazing. I went from topping it and slicing it about 150m , to tonight fairly consistently crushing it (for me) uphill right over the top of the 180m (the furthermost board we have at the range here) board landing close to 190m and rolling on about another 20m - 40m. All basically as before I had the tee too low, i was lining the ball up too far back from my front foot. Just fixing that seemed to fix my slice and gave me a huge amount more power. Thanks a lot! Sorry we do everything in metres here in Australia :) I had to hit through the haze of bushfire smoke too.
Really value your honest comments, I was thinking of changing from my Rouge driver to the new Mavrik or Taylormade SIm driver. After watching both reviews, apart from getting the latest driver my overhaul is not going to improve, so thanks for your honest comments, and will stay my current driver.
yo rick, i haven’t watched your channel since almost september, but bro I’ve gotta say, the quality of your videos, the editing, the content, etc. is noticeably better. not like it wasn’t before but i have noticed it get even better. great job. cheers from Utah, USA👊
I'm not so sure. I played golf with a guy yesterday they matched us up with. He swore by the Mavrik driver. Said it was 20 yards further than his Epic. Dunno.
So it looks like the Mavrik standard is the only new "technology." The other two are last year's epic flash with a 90s orange paint scheme.... Oh and with some random letters and numbers following "flash face" on the face. Got it. Thanks Rick. Your honesty is, as always, appreciated.
Rick, your reviews are the best "go to" on UA-cam. Every piece of golf equipment I have purchased in the last 3-years has started with watching your reviews. I very much appreciate the thoroughness and unbiased nature of your reviews. One thing that would be great is if you could bring back your mid-handicap reviews. I suspect a large part of your audience are in the 10 - 20 handicap range with driver club head speeds in the range of 85 to 100 mph (as opposed to your 115 mph). (It is awesome watching you carry your tee shots around 285 yards :-)) As to your question, if I had to choose between the SIM & MAVRIK with my pocket book, the answer would be neither as it doesn't appear that either is better than many of the 2019 driver offerings. Both clubs are CDN$700 here in Canada. Personally, I am going to stick with my fitted PING G400!
Great review, honesty above everything, and I believe that’s what makes Ricks reviews so good. Totally trust his opinions. I would very much like to see a two year test done with the ping g400, the Rouge, Maverick and Sim since they are supposed to be the hottest and I’m looking something to replace my Ping G driver. Thks for the vid! Saludos
Thanks a lot Rick for the great review ... As per my humble analysis for last six months, the claim by the company for 5 yards longer is unreal ... at the same time I conclude that the major difference between the two is response for off center hits ... with COR value being constant, how can company claim to increase the distance? By aero dynamics and COR value for off center hits ...Callaway has achieved both ...Rick's result have shown that swing speed with maverik was faster... and i have myself used mavrik ...dammmmm ...it is indeed good in off center hits ... so good that I purchased one ... summary is that if you hits the driver center most of the times, you won't be benefitted with extra distance very clearly from naverik ... but for players like me who need ball speed from off center hits, they won't be disappointed ... i have gained 30 to 40 yards for off center hits and 40 to 50 yards on center strikes ...my previous driver was Tylormade SLDR
Once again you've proven that newer isn't always longer or more accurate. You've denonstrated the importance of proper club fitting, especially for an efficient club shaft that 'digests' your swing for improved energy retention, release and repetitive accuracy. Outstanding presentation sir!
Rick , Just wanted to say I’m new to the channel and love the content !! Getting back into golf soon ( lay off 4 years due to injury ) and I excited to have your reviews help me get onto some new gear soon. Appreciate the great review and info ! Thank you
I don’t really look for club head speed in a driver i only look for forgiveness and in that case a Custom fit is so important. I did my first custom fit last year and i was fitted a Tensei CK pro White TX. My misses went down a lot more fairway hits led to a lower score!
Been hitting all 3 and the Sub-Zero is the longest for me, out of the 3. With Many different shafts. They pretty much all go within 10 yards of each other. Max and Sub are loner for me! The TM SIM is LONGER!!! But, the Maverick is So Much constant than the Sim. I could play either. Good review as normal,Rick!!!!!
Rick, forget the golf clubs... you have absolutely the best golf swing I have ever seen. Absolutely loaded with power and looks built for accuracy. I am subscribing in hopes you sell instruction material.
Great Review and testing again! Think it clearly shows that brands are hitting the regulation max and it is all about design and look now. They are running out of ideas, £469 NOPE!!! il be sticking with my G410
@@xxpatssoxfanxx what it shows simply is that brands are running out of ideas. The epic flash was suppose to factor in this technology and it doesn't beat it in my opinion. Poor showing from Callaway on this range and it look so cheap Again IMO
Rick where is this so called technology going to stop.. I love your videos and reviews by the way. I have the callaway xr Driver which I bought a good few years ago on recommendation from your review on you tube I can honestly say if you look at the numbers they are more or less the same.. On one shot you carried 293 yards 💪💪.. Your average was 281.. To buy a new Driver at £470 is a bit extreme.. When are company's going to stop the marketing about drives that go longer than previous clubs ?
Another good honest review from Rick Shiels - one of the few voices to be trusted in 2020. Even TXG appear to be juicing their numbers claiming 14 yards between last years M5 and the SIM which is ridiculous! Even worse is the fact they claimed 15 yards between M3 and M5 only a few months back. They've also been caught removing negative posts about TM products, so all in all it smells of sponsorship. Sigh.
Nice review Rick. You are the ONLY unbiased Pro on UA-cam. You put your customer (viewer) at the heart of your channel and have not been taken in by the easy money of club manufacturer sponsorship. This is where the others like Pete 'Snooze' Finch; Mark 'Top Bloke' Crossfield and 'Me and My Boyfriend' have made huge errors of judgement. In the long term subscribers will turn away from these other channels as the reality hits that basically there content is just one long infommercial!
technically club companies can not max out possible distance due to USGA regulations so they have to work with what they can trying to improve the clubs
Result: Same driver, different color and marketing claims. You just hit the Epic slightly better in the test thus the tiny difference in ballspeed and carry :)
Your videos are getting better and better each days. Relax, to the point and honest. Sadly most big companies are trying to make new clubs each year claiming new or better "technology" to increase their sales.
Clubhead speed for SZ was 0.2 faster than normal but ball speed was 1.4 slower. This means you didnt have the same smash factor with the SZ-not surprising with it being more difficult to hit. Interesting then that you got the same total yards of 307 with both. Makes me think that SZ can perform even better if you can manage to get solid strikes on it.
Rick, thanks for review as I went with cobra extreme, and one thing I noticed and several others, + handicappers at that, asked anybody get that to go left? I said no I can’t , and others can’t as well and I’m using lite shaft. Since this review reveals the epic longer, not by much buy I’ll go with mav max cause almost $100 cheaper than epic, can’t believe still carrying a high price for older driver!
Well what coincidence. Get notification on this review, and an e-mail from Callaway about the Mavrik. Perfect timing and good information! The Mavrik Max seems somewhat similar to what I’m currently hitting now the Callloway FT-IQ Tour.
2020 drivers are looking very gimmicky to me, aesthetics looking a lot less professional and geared more towards branding to catch the eye... kinda “corny” if you ask me. 🤷🏻♂️
All the manufacturers ought to be using you to test their golf equipment. Rick is a very creditable hitting machine this as always was fun to watch thanks for putting this up.
This just proves that clubs don’t change much within 1-2 years. I would save my money and get an older model at a discounted price. I think this was one of your best reviews yet! In my opinion. Looking forward to the next reviews!
I have watched a few reviews for new drivers now and I think the most important thing for us amateurs Is the consistency of the strike and how far the ball will travel on an off centre hit, clubhead speed and balls speed is for professionals. So with that in mind I think the best driver available at present is the Ping G410. In every UA-cam review it seems to be the most consistent performer.
I bought a rogue last year and loved it. After about 10 rounds the head cracked where it met the shaft. Called Callaway and they sent me a brand new epic flash. I was a bit disappointed until I hit it. All the distance rogue gave me and much more consistently straight hits.
Physicist here, I really like this driver. The shape is legitimately good, about the best aerodynamics shape you're going to get. All of the vortex generators and other fluff seen on other drivers don't work, a smooth shape like the back end of an aerofoil is the optimum. The driver face, I'd been saying for a while they should look at optimising the face to make the ball come off at the same speed all over. Thats what they've done here. Not sure how well it works, but its one of the only things I could think of to theoretically help mishits (like "speedfoam" just better). Frankly I'm now at a loss to think what else I would do to improve drivers beyond these models, no other gimmicks or tricks actually make a difference in the real world. I like it.
@@xxpatssoxfanxx I mean hes a golfer reviewing golf clubs. I can't really complain about that. That's a big reason why I came in with little golf knowledge and a ton of engineering, physics, and aerodynamics knowledge - to fill in the gaps and point out when its marketing fakery as it almost always is. I'll check it out, but I really do think its important for just a plain golfer to use the clubs as everyone else will be using them during a review.
I am definitely for new driver this year and very keen to see the results comparing 2020 v 2019. I do love your videos and comment as they are and should be. Honest and truth showing the numbers. I have stuff descission to make which driver to choose. Definitely the one I am choosing will be fitted, no doubt there. Thanks again for great video
Love the honesty. Find a driver you like and stick with it for at least a few years. The Mavrik is really the Rogue replacement, not the Epic Flash replacement so it is probably better than the 2018 Rogue. That being said, they made their 5 yard claim against the Epic Flash instead of the Rogue. Well done.
Got fitted for a driver today, told them I have no brand preference and to give me whatever the numbers speak to. They recommended the sub zero for me and I’m nowhere near a tour player 😂
yeah, that's an odd blanket statement coming from Rick. I only swing driver about 100 mph (less if i'm feeling stiff, and up to 105 if it's hot and i'm really loose), and the sub-zero epic flash was the club for me. I do usually hit around the middle of the face, but i tend to not get the best attack angle, and the SZ works fine for me. I average about 260-270 yards including rollout with it, and i hit a little under 60% of the fairways i play.
No I was hitting it only 50 yards 30 years ago. Now 275-285 carry with new driver. It has to be the driver nothing to do with not being 4 years old anymore
My theory is that a driver you've had 2 years will probably lose 5/10 yards due to shaft and face wear... therefore the new driver will go 5/10 yards 'longer' **logic**
Given that I bought a Callaway Customs Epic Flash in July last year, there was no way I was buying a new driver, but this was good to watch and know there is nothing being missed!
Awesome video as usual. Showing that you don't have to get a new driver every year. Waiting at least a good five yrs. To get new clubs is so comforting to the clubs that I have. My clubs are great, I was allowed to increase the shaft of all the clubs. Gives me the height and distance combined that everybody wants and looks for. My club are the Thomas golf custom built and fit clubs
Once again, no real difference between this year's model and last. If it doesn't benefit someone at Rick's level, it's unlikely to do anything for the average club golfer. My wallet is remaining firmly closed!
Peter Molyneux his efficiency was also down in the Mavrik head vs the epic flash. 1.39 vs 1.42. Clubhead speed up, forgiveness is higher for only losing two mph ball speed on strikes not quite as efficient. Human element always makes these reviews tricky, cause unless you’re hitting them both the same, how can you say which is better?
There’s simply just not much left the manufacturers can improve on year over year. The face of the clubs have all been at the legal limit for some time now. I’d be interested to see if there is much difference on off center hits. I’d rather lose 10 yards to be able to hit it straighter.
I love these honest reviews! The 2020 drivers so far all look like great clubs...if you’re playing a driver that is 5 or 6 years old. The tech doesn’t change enough year by year to warrant an upgrade unless you have extra cash and just want the newest club. Just tried a sale price M5 vs. my current 2017 M1 and it was slightly better but not enough to spend $400.
Literally just purchased the Mavrik 8/18/2023 😁😁😁 as well as Cobra irons & in the process of purchasing a 2021 cobra tec 4 hybrid & a cobra ltdx max 3 wood 😁😁😁😁😁😁 Very happy with the irons & learning the driver but extremely happy because I'm just learning!!!
Club head speed is really the product of all the energy in the body's hinges being multiplied in sequence, minus the energy waste or leak attributable to opposing forces both inside and outside the body. This means the fastest club head speed will be achieved via the proper timing and sequence of the release of those hinges, the joints, and not from how much Force or power is supplied by muscle exertion. Another great video, Rick
Great video. Very entertaining, fair and relevant format. Keep challenging the silly claims being made by the manufacturers Rick. They still get good exposure via your channel and the message in most cases is that whilst the UTD gear is no better than last years models, they are still solid products. The good news about the release of the Mavrik is that the Epic flash range should now be a bit cheaper for your average golfers to get their hands on.
*Question* - If you had to choose between SIM & MAVRIK what would you pick?
After watching both reviews, as a 80-90 golfer seems the real question is if I had to chose the M5/M6 or Epic Flash at a yr old discount which would i pick? As I am playing 2016 Apex irons and have been using an Aero Burner I am thinking time to switch to Epic Flash.
I think Sim for me
Cobra
Maverick... Orange is my favorite color. The way they promise 10 more yards every year. I'm surprised we are not all driving 500 yards plus. Great video sir!!
Mavrik, looks good from the top... What do they call the 3 wood, "Iceman" lol
*Note* I didn’t show the shots in the fairway as it was very wet in parts so some balls didn’t roll and some balls did. So it would have been an unfair test
Over 10 shots each I think it would have been interesting to see
If you look at the longest carry over the 10 shots from both clubs which one would win?
Damn you winter!!! 😜
With that much more club head speed but producing 3-4 mph less in ball speed you were definitely not hitting the Mavrik as well or as close to the sweet spot. If you adjusted for the same smash factor as you hit the EF I would assume you would have gotten 5 yards or maybe even more. Certainly not a definitive test especially if you have been gaming a EF and are potentially more comfortable with it than the Mavrik. Familiarity breeds contempt.
You are supposed to hit middle for both
Between this review, Cobra Speedzone and Taylormade SIM, it doesn’t seem like investing in a new model in 2020 makes sense. Better off to go get 2019’s model on sale instead
I’ve still got the F9 firmly in the bag
Rick Shiels Golf I’m about to go bargain hunting for one!
@@RickShielsPGA would be a really interesting review of all drivers over the last 5 years from the big brands, test there models and see the difference. So M1 vs SIM etc.
I agree, picked up a F9 yesterday at 40% discount.
Yeah you could even go a few models back
The Most Perfect ending i have not ever seen with club review. Nice
Thanks
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I’ve hit both the SIM and Mavrik at a golf shop. They both went significantly further then my normal drives, carrying around 530 for both of them, so I knew something was up, or these were fantastic drivers, did some brief investigation and noticed some had cranked the distance on the simulator to x2😂
ouch!
If the clubs went 5 yard further every year I'd be hitting the ball farther than Happy Gilmore for Peat Sakes
I've figured since I've been golfing with every ball going 5 yards further and every club going 5 yards further. The par 5's should be par 3's. Correct?? Let's rock!!
@@stevewest7260 seems legit
For “peat” sakes? This guy must be a scotch drinker. 🥃
@@oneaburns lol.
@@oneaburns close. I'm a craft beer guy. But drink miller high life when I'm broke
Rick, this is probably the best new club review of all time. This and the Taylormade SIM review were exactly what the golfing public want - an in depth, honest review, that compares this years product to last years.
Guy and Rick,
This helped me a ton. I was “Fitted” more like marketed a Maverik Max 10.5 loft. After watching this video I fell confident adjusting it to neutral and -1. First hit off the tee was straight as an arrow. Your content gives new golfers confidence to make decisions on how we play and set up our gear.
Credit where credit is due. Your channel is by far the best golf content on UA-cam. It's not just the content either, your unbiased professionalism on camera is second to non, there's no gimmicks or jokes and I feel like I'm watching someone who is genuinely trying to give help and advice to us mugs who will do anything to hole more putts, gain a few yards and so on. Also credit doesn't just belong to you as the camera and editing team you have are exceptional. The graphics on screen the cut aways the sound are again something I would expect to see on the golf channel! Between you and My Golf Spy (I love data) I have all my golfing media I will ever need.
Keep up the good work and thank you!
Humans have supersonic stealth fighter jets but golf club manufactures are trying to convince us they’re still perfecting the relatively simple aerodynamics of a golf club so they can sell us a new one every year 😂😂
And it’s working!
FACTS!
They should be so fast that the club head releases itself by now.
Meanwhile TaylorMade turns their driver into a Stealth.
It's all gimmicks. Clubs haven't changed in performance in the last 10yrs
Every Rick's review is absolutely an honest review, loved it.
I got fitted with the Standard Mavrik Aldila Rogue stiff shaft. Much better than my M4 off the rack. The heavier shaft helped gain 10-20 more yards off the tee. 70 grams up from 50 grams.
As a golf pro in the US, I do absolutely love your content and how your club reviews have grown over the last few years
I recently discovered your youtube channel and love it. I have only played sporadically over about 20 years and never really improved. I still use a now very old Nike SQ Dymo, which by today's standards makes an awful ping noise lol. I watched a video of yours last night about getting better driver distance and went to the range tonight and it was amazing. I went from topping it and slicing it about 150m , to tonight fairly consistently crushing it (for me) uphill right over the top of the 180m (the furthermost board we have at the range here) board landing close to 190m and rolling on about another 20m - 40m. All basically as before I had the tee too low, i was lining the ball up too far back from my front foot. Just fixing that seemed to fix my slice and gave me a huge amount more power. Thanks a lot! Sorry we do everything in metres here in Australia :) I had to hit through the haze of bushfire smoke too.
Rick, your reviews are just different gravy - Very entertaining, love the combination of on-course testing the ending was class!
Really value your honest comments, I was thinking of changing from my Rouge driver to the new Mavrik or Taylormade SIm driver. After watching both reviews, apart from getting the latest driver my overhaul is not going to improve, so thanks for your honest comments, and will stay my current driver.
Thanks for the honesty. Good review.
yo rick, i haven’t watched your channel since almost september, but bro I’ve gotta say, the quality of your videos, the editing, the content, etc. is noticeably better. not like it wasn’t before but i have noticed it get even better. great job. cheers from Utah, USA👊
I'm getting really annoyed with all of these outrageous claims for new golf equipment.
Might wanna get a new hobby then. This is essentially the same song and dance every January.
Just remember, Lies, dammed lies,,, and marketing (or words to that effect)
@@xxpatssoxfanxx What do you mean?
I'm not so sure. I played golf with a guy yesterday they matched us up with. He swore by the Mavrik driver. Said it was 20 yards further than his Epic. Dunno.
So you’ve been annoyed for 20 years.
So it looks like the Mavrik standard is the only new "technology." The other two are last year's epic flash with a 90s orange paint scheme.... Oh and with some random letters and numbers following "flash face" on the face. Got it. Thanks Rick. Your honesty is, as always, appreciated.
This is why I love and trust your reviews. Totally honest, completely unbiased, data based outcomes. Great review Ricky, keep em coming!
Rick, your reviews are the best "go to" on UA-cam. Every piece of golf equipment I have purchased in the last 3-years has started with watching your reviews. I very much appreciate the thoroughness and unbiased nature of your reviews. One thing that would be great is if you could bring back your mid-handicap reviews. I suspect a large part of your audience are in the 10 - 20 handicap range with driver club head speeds in the range of 85 to 100 mph (as opposed to your 115 mph). (It is awesome watching you carry your tee shots around 285 yards :-)) As to your question, if I had to choose between the SIM & MAVRIK with my pocket book, the answer would be neither as it doesn't appear that either is better than many of the 2019 driver offerings. Both clubs are CDN$700 here in Canada. Personally, I am going to stick with my fitted PING G400!
Great review, honesty above everything, and I believe that’s what makes Ricks reviews so good. Totally trust his opinions. I would very much like to see a two year test done with the ping g400, the Rouge, Maverick and Sim since they are supposed to be the hottest and I’m looking something to replace my Ping G driver. Thks for the vid! Saludos
Brilliant Video/Review again Rick. Great Job mate!
Just bought a mavrick, for £279 new, so 3 seasons late but 50% off !!
Thanks a lot Rick for the great review ... As per my humble analysis for last six months, the claim by the company for 5 yards longer is unreal ... at the same time I conclude that the major difference between the two is response for off center hits ... with COR value being constant, how can company claim to increase the distance? By aero dynamics and COR value for off center hits ...Callaway has achieved both ...Rick's result have shown that swing speed with maverik was faster... and i have myself used mavrik ...dammmmm ...it is indeed good in off center hits ... so good that I purchased one ... summary is that if you hits the driver center most of the times, you won't be benefitted with extra distance very clearly from naverik ... but for players like me who need ball speed from off center hits, they won't be disappointed ... i have gained 30 to 40 yards for off center hits and 40 to 50 yards on center strikes ...my previous driver was Tylormade SLDR
RS: "Yea......super computer" hahaha, you're funny Rick
Once again you've proven that newer isn't always longer or more accurate. You've denonstrated the importance of proper club fitting, especially for an efficient club shaft that 'digests' your swing for improved energy retention, release and repetitive accuracy. Outstanding presentation sir!
Rick ,
Just wanted to say I’m new to the channel and love the content !! Getting back into golf soon ( lay off 4 years due to injury ) and I excited to have your reviews help me get onto some new gear soon. Appreciate the great review and info ! Thank you
Absolutely love your reviews. You are always objective and honest. Thank you Rick.
I don’t really look for club head speed in a driver i only look for forgiveness and in that case a Custom fit is so important. I did my first custom fit last year and i was fitted a Tensei CK pro White TX. My misses went down a lot more fairway hits led to a lower score!
Deep up Stranded Creek hahahha good one
Been hitting all 3 and the Sub-Zero is the longest for me, out of the 3. With Many different shafts. They pretty much all go within 10 yards of each other. Max and Sub are loner for me! The TM SIM is LONGER!!! But, the Maverick is So Much constant than the Sim. I could play either. Good review as normal,Rick!!!!!
I’m most excited to see how this will help the markdown of the previous generations of drivers.
Rick, forget the golf clubs... you have absolutely the best golf swing I have ever seen. Absolutely loaded with power and looks built for accuracy. I am subscribing in hopes you sell instruction material.
Another great review, now back to bed it's 3am in Mich, USA. Worth it though. 🏌🏽
Your videos are great Rick! They really help us sort through the snake oil. Much appreciated.
Great Review and testing again!
Think it clearly shows that brands are hitting the regulation max and it is all about design and look now.
They are running out of ideas, £469 NOPE!!! il be sticking with my G410
@@xxpatssoxfanxx what it shows simply is that brands are running out of ideas.
The epic flash was suppose to factor in this technology and it doesn't beat it in my opinion.
Poor showing from Callaway on this range and it look so cheap
Again IMO
Rick where is this so called technology going to stop.. I love your videos and reviews by the way. I have the callaway xr Driver which I bought a good few years ago on recommendation from your review on you tube I can honestly say if you look at the numbers they are more or less the same.. On one shot you carried 293 yards 💪💪.. Your average was 281.. To buy a new Driver at £470 is a bit extreme.. When are company's going to stop the marketing about drives that go longer than previous clubs ?
Xr pro is a mean bomber. I don’t think you’d lose anything maybe pick up some slight forgiveness with newer but comfortable is confident.💪🏻
Another good honest review from Rick Shiels - one of the few voices to be trusted in 2020. Even TXG appear to be juicing their numbers claiming 14 yards between last years M5 and the SIM which is ridiculous! Even worse is the fact they claimed 15 yards between M3 and M5 only a few months back. They've also been caught removing negative posts about TM products, so all in all it smells of sponsorship. Sigh.
Rick, you need to bring back the head to head, grab-n-smash vids you used to do with the new release drivers!
Nice review Rick. You are the ONLY unbiased Pro on UA-cam. You put your customer (viewer) at the heart of your channel and have not been taken in by the easy money of club manufacturer sponsorship. This is where the others like Pete 'Snooze' Finch; Mark 'Top Bloke' Crossfield and 'Me and My Boyfriend' have made huge errors of judgement. In the long term subscribers will turn away from these other channels as the reality hits that basically there content is just one long infommercial!
Thanks so much!
@@RickShielsPGA You're welcome. Keep up the good work and great video content. No doubt you can grow to 1m+ subscribers in the next 2-3 years.
If all the “NEW” tech is correct we should all be hitting like 500 yards
technically club companies can not max out possible distance due to USGA regulations so they have to work with what they can trying to improve the clubs
Yup. Rick carried 288-299 with ballspeed 170-171 with Srixon Z545 driver - five years ago!
Love it!! Based on your results from this and the SIM it’s obvious we as golfers should save our money and play last years models. Thanks Rick!!
Result: Same driver, different color and marketing claims.
You just hit the Epic slightly better in the test thus the tiny difference in ballspeed and carry :)
That's what I was thinking- Epic was slower club head but higher ball speed, with the same face (almost).
Slightly better 10 times?
Your videos are getting better and better each days. Relax, to the point and honest. Sadly most big companies are trying to make new clubs each year claiming new or better "technology" to increase their sales.
Clubhead speed for SZ was 0.2 faster than normal but ball speed was 1.4 slower. This means you didnt have the same smash factor with the SZ-not surprising with it being more difficult to hit. Interesting then that you got the same total yards of 307 with both. Makes me think that SZ can perform even better if you can manage to get solid strikes on it.
Rick, thanks for review as I went with cobra extreme, and one thing I noticed and several others, + handicappers at that, asked anybody get that to go left? I said no I can’t , and others can’t as well and I’m using lite shaft. Since this review reveals the epic longer, not by much buy I’ll go with mav max cause almost $100 cheaper than epic, can’t believe still carrying a high price for older driver!
Disclaimer: Just because it didn’t go further for Rick, doesn’t mean it won’t go further for you. Get fitted folks.
Yes with your current driver not this money grab..
Well what coincidence. Get notification on this review, and an e-mail from Callaway about the Mavrik. Perfect timing and good information! The Mavrik Max seems somewhat similar to what I’m currently hitting now the Callloway FT-IQ Tour.
2020 drivers are looking very gimmicky to me, aesthetics looking a lot less professional and geared more towards branding to catch the eye... kinda “corny” if you ask me. 🤷🏻♂️
Agreed, first impression was that it looked a bit tacky.
Hard to disagree. Love to see these numbers: R and D budget VS Marketing budget.
Spot on mate 👍
Maverick looks like an old m2.. sim looks like a cobra.. apparently there's no other ideas out there
Thought the same thing. Reminds me of 2015/16. Callaway hot driver and xr and the m2.
All the manufacturers ought to be using you to test their golf equipment. Rick is a very creditable hitting machine this as always was fun to watch thanks for putting this up.
So what you're telling us Rick is that after taking Mavrik out on the course, you've lost that loving feeling.
Rob Biles ...and now it’s gone... gone... gone.
Rob Biles .... Talk to me Goose.....
I feel the need Randy ….. the need for speed. Can't wait to see what you do with the MAV.
Rodger.
This just proves that clubs don’t change much within 1-2 years. I would save my money and get an older model at a discounted price. I think this was one of your best reviews yet! In my opinion. Looking forward to the next reviews!
This definitely swings faster, another great job by Callaway
I have watched a few reviews for new drivers now and I think the most important thing for us amateurs Is the consistency of the strike and how far the ball will travel on an off centre hit, clubhead speed and balls speed is for professionals. So with that in mind I think the best driver available at present is the Ping G410. In every UA-cam review it seems to be the most consistent performer.
I don’t know why I was so excited waiting for the results between the two at the end lol how sad is my life
Muff 007 im excited too, i haven’t got there yet, it’s the little things sometimes :/
Another great Video Rick. Keep them coming!
I’m meant to be taking the dog for a walk guess I’ll have to postpone for 17 mins
haha same!
It just hit me how good your videos have gotten Rick. Great job! Excellent review.
Callaway marketing must really like Top Gun.
They did the same thing with Star Wars Rogue
Good catch
Nice work on the visual compares, Rick. Appreciate it.
Good honest review, well done Rick, just shows all this "goes further" from manufacturers is absolute bull
Your videos are absolutely great. Always interesting
I have the Rogue driver and it's honestly perfect for me
I bought a rogue last year and loved it. After about 10 rounds the head cracked where it met the shaft. Called Callaway and they sent me a brand new epic flash. I was a bit disappointed until I hit it. All the distance rogue gave me and much more consistently straight hits.
Physicist here, I really like this driver. The shape is legitimately good, about the best aerodynamics shape you're going to get. All of the vortex generators and other fluff seen on other drivers don't work, a smooth shape like the back end of an aerofoil is the optimum. The driver face, I'd been saying for a while they should look at optimising the face to make the ball come off at the same speed all over. Thats what they've done here. Not sure how well it works, but its one of the only things I could think of to theoretically help mishits (like "speedfoam" just better). Frankly I'm now at a loss to think what else I would do to improve drivers beyond these models, no other gimmicks or tricks actually make a difference in the real world. I like it.
@@xxpatssoxfanxx I mean hes a golfer reviewing golf clubs. I can't really complain about that. That's a big reason why I came in with little golf knowledge and a ton of engineering, physics, and aerodynamics knowledge - to fill in the gaps and point out when its marketing fakery as it almost always is. I'll check it out, but I really do think its important for just a plain golfer to use the clubs as everyone else will be using them during a review.
Worse looking and data is no different....
Conclusion: Go Cleveland 😉
Great review.
I am definitely for new driver this year and very keen to see the results comparing 2020 v 2019.
I do love your videos and comment as they are and should be. Honest and truth showing the numbers. I have stuff descission to make which driver to choose. Definitely the one I am choosing will be fitted, no doubt there. Thanks again for great video
Class review as always Rick. I’d have to go with the SIM 👍
Both are good drivers. It’ll do on looks probably
Great review Rick back to doing what you do best shame these reviews didn't happen last year would of loved to seen you do this with the mp20 irons
Meanwhile I'm still gaming my Titleist 915 D3 XD
Same, the best. New ts feels rubbish compared
Im still gaming my Jack nicholas wooden driver.
Love the honesty. Find a driver you like and stick with it for at least a few years. The Mavrik is really the Rogue replacement, not the Epic Flash replacement so it is probably better than the 2018 Rogue. That being said, they made their 5 yard claim against the Epic Flash instead of the Rogue. Well done.
I'd be more interested in seeing Mavrik compared to Rogue; it seems more like a Rogue with "flash face."
That ending proper made me laugh. So blunt 😂😂😂
"Really for tour players only..."
Guess I'm a tour player now then? :D
Got fitted for a driver today, told them I have no brand preference and to give me whatever the numbers speak to. They recommended the sub zero for me and I’m nowhere near a tour player 😂
yeah, that's an odd blanket statement coming from Rick. I only swing driver about 100 mph (less if i'm feeling stiff, and up to 105 if it's hot and i'm really loose), and the sub-zero epic flash was the club for me. I do usually hit around the middle of the face, but i tend to not get the best attack angle, and the SZ works fine for me. I average about 260-270 yards including rollout with it, and i hit a little under 60% of the fairways i play.
Thanks Rick, just revisited this video and love the description and advice for hitting the Mavric
Surely they don’t think anyone still buys into the “5 yards further” spiel!
What else are they wasting their money on?
No I was hitting it only 50 yards 30 years ago. Now 275-285 carry with new driver. It has to be the driver nothing to do with not being 4 years old anymore
notformebeaky hey my drivers the 10 year old model! It goes 110 yards!
It was a bold claim
My theory is that a driver you've had 2 years will probably lose 5/10 yards due to shaft and face wear... therefore the new driver will go 5/10 yards 'longer' **logic**
Given that I bought a Callaway Customs Epic Flash in July last year, there was no way I was buying a new driver, but this was good to watch and know there is nothing being missed!
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Awesome video as usual. Showing that you don't have to get a new driver every year. Waiting at least a good five yrs. To get new clubs is so comforting to the clubs that I have. My clubs are great, I was allowed to increase the shaft of all the clubs. Gives me the height and distance combined that everybody wants and looks for. My club are the Thomas golf custom built and fit clubs
Once again, no real difference between this year's model and last. If it doesn't benefit someone at Rick's level, it's unlikely to do anything for the average club golfer. My wallet is remaining firmly closed!
Peter Molyneux his efficiency was also down in the Mavrik head vs the epic flash. 1.39 vs 1.42. Clubhead speed up, forgiveness is higher for only losing two mph ball speed on strikes not quite as efficient.
Human element always makes these reviews tricky, cause unless you’re hitting them both the same, how can you say which is better?
I did testing of the Sim against my M3 gamer and no matter what the TM rep tried, it was always 5 yards shorter. Saved myself $500.
@@jamesbuckley1686 No surprise!
There’s simply just not much left the manufacturers can improve on year over year. The face of the clubs have all been at the legal limit for some time now. I’d be interested to see if there is much difference on off center hits. I’d rather lose 10 yards to be able to hit it straighter.
I love these honest reviews! The 2020 drivers so far all look like great clubs...if you’re playing a driver that is 5 or 6 years old. The tech doesn’t change enough year by year to warrant an upgrade unless you have extra cash and just want the newest club. Just tried a sale price M5 vs. my current 2017 M1 and it was slightly better but not enough to spend $400.
Literally just purchased the Mavrik 8/18/2023 😁😁😁 as well as Cobra irons & in the process of purchasing a 2021 cobra tec 4 hybrid & a cobra ltdx max 3 wood 😁😁😁😁😁😁
Very happy with the irons & learning the driver but extremely happy because I'm just learning!!!
Lol the way the review ended .... no !!! See ya hahaha 😂
Club head speed is really the product of all the energy in the body's hinges being multiplied in sequence, minus the energy waste or leak attributable to opposing forces both inside and outside the body. This means the fastest club head speed will be achieved via the proper timing and sequence of the release of those hinges, the joints, and not from how much Force or power is supplied by muscle exertion. Another great video, Rick
Hope they offer custom colours. That orange is horrid
Wow was not expecting that! Rick, you are so great. Thanks for all that you do for us golfers. Always love the content.
They need a new design team for color n style.
To clarify both color n name my mind goes right to rusty POS orange Ford mavrick. Also had white stripes.
Great video. Very entertaining, fair and relevant format. Keep challenging the silly claims being made by the manufacturers Rick. They still get good exposure via your channel and the message in most cases is that whilst the UTD gear is no better than last years models, they are still solid products. The good news about the release of the Mavrik is that the Epic flash range should now be a bit cheaper for your average golfers to get their hands on.
That super computer that's been making these super high tech club faces is gonna get demoted to a fax machine if it keeps this up
Then donated to a community college!
I have a set of these and cannot for the life of me swing a golf club haha. Glad you like it Rick. I’ll keep practicing!
“MAVRIK” they’ve ran out of names, honestly.
Its Tom Cruise approved. 👍
Gotta get in for the Top Gun release later this year.
Glad I saw this...I just bought 10 days ago the Epic Flash and was wondering if I had done the right thing...now I know! Thanks Rick.
That look ugggglyyyyy
I’m watching Mr. Shiels review these drivers but I can’t stop bopping my head to the background music, sick beats Rick!
Great blog rick nice to see it tested on the course ⛳️👍
Superb methodology and honest testing. It always come down to subtle things like look and sound. Great job again, Rick!
What a great video! Really had me anxious when presenting the data! Best club reviewer ever!
Another great review Rick. Appreciate your honesty when it comes to reviewing golf equipment.
I can hear callaway employees just screaming at this video xD
...good stuff as always mate!
Great comprehensive club test. Well done Rick.