@@utsuroid Oh you're right, Aleksander's gun travels a lot. Young Aleksander > Hannah > Stranger/Adam > Agnes (kills Noah with it) > Adam (kills old Eva with it) > Alt Martha (kills Quantum Jonas with it). From there it gets complicated. Claudia kills alt Claudia, and then I don't know anymore.
Or to start it because of the book on time travel that was already finished in the future. Everything is based off of Noah's chair. Noah's chair doesn't work til other things happen. Noah wouldn't be on his quest if there wasn't interference from people like Jonas. The caves that they are using while Noah is building his time machine only exist because of of Noah's time machine. Tanhauses machine is based on plans which are a revision of the chair.
I watched this show over a couple weeks this summer and I plan on watching it again once my school semester starts, simply the best piece of television I’ve ever had the pleasure of viewing
Timeline of of Adam's world pocket watch 'For Charlotte':- 1822:- Heinrich Tannhaus makes the pocket watch for in memory of his dead wife Charlotte. After 1822 and before 1888:- Heinrich's son blind Gustav Tannhaus inherits this watch after his father's death. 1888:-Unknown kills Gustav Tannhaus and steals the watch from Adam's world and bring to 2019 Eva's world and give the watch to Eva. When apocalypse is happening in Eva's world and Eva sets her pieces in places Eva gives the Adam's world watch to Middle aged Martha. 1888(After Gustav Tannhaus's death):- Eva's world's Middle aged Marath travels where stranger Jonas is trapped and leaves the watch and Alt Maratha's letter on Stranger Jonas desk. 1920:- When Adult Noah comes to Adam looking for his daughter . Adam recruits him and his younger self in Adam's team and tells Adult Noah to give the watch to Child Elizabeth in 2019. 2019:- Child Elizabeth receives Pocket watch from Adult Noah. In that time line Adult Charrlotte remember having same type of watch when she was having when she was child, from this condition Adult Charlotte thinks that she might be involved in the child missing and other things which are happening in Widen. 2020(After apocalypse) :- Child Elizabeth has lost everyone in her family her mother and sister are lost and her father has died in front of her. The only thing she has left with is the Pocket Watch. After 2021 and Before 2041:- Elizabeth grows in post-apocalypse Winden with Noah. They both in love and have baby which is Charlotte. Elizabeth decides to keep the Watch for daughter Charlotte But in the same year Adult Charlotte and 13 year older Elizabeth come and take away both baby Charlotte and Pocket Watch from Noah and Elizabeth in 2041 timeline. 1970:- Adult Charlotte and Adult Elizabeth give H G Tannhaus the baby Charlotte and Pocket watch. After 1970 and Before 2019:- The Pocket Watch remains with baby Charlotte while she is growing up in Winden. Eventually the Pocket Watch gets in to the old things stuff of Charlotte and complete it's Journey. I tried my best to explain the Pocket Watch timeline hope you would understand my answer.
@@nineteenct Do you mean in past as in our Dark universe Past==Future==Present (Everything is Connected) . Just kidding friend, will never get bored with this show😄😄
@@4rtsyval I don't remember seeing any mention about Silja being born in 1987. I remember her being Elisabeth's translator in 2052-2053, then Bartosz's partner in 1888-1910. Imagine dying seven decades before you were born.
@@cinnamon4 hannah went back to 1987 and had her in 1988, then moved to 1911 in 1993 and died there; jonas took silja to 2041 where she grew up and then adam sent her back to 1890 in 2053.
I just watched another video that explains the time machine timeline but I can now see yours is superior. Fills in many more details and explains a lot more. With good evidence. Remarkable work
I truly hope your amazing page is getting the credit it EXTREMELY deserves ! Thank you for your hard work and amazing time lines please please keep them coming !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@hi.923 I think it's the same sphere but it got split by the loophole too. Sic Mundus designs it, it gets created somehow (maybe by alt Tannhaus), Magnus and Franziska get ahold of it somehow (either Sic Mundus created it and they were the first to use it, or an agent of Eva gives them one of the spheres at some point), and then they give it to alt Martha. She splits, one of the spheres is now with the Martha who becomes Eva and one of them is with the Martha who is killed by Adam. In the timeline in which the cycle continues, Adam uses dead Martha's sphere to travel to Eva's world, kills Eva, and presumably commits suicide. Eva says Martha finds her corpse, so she also finds the sphere. Now there are two spheres in Eva's possession.
When was the time machine created? The Bootstrap Paradox continues to flow in an endless loop through time. My favorite timeline loop in Dark is Charlotte’s when she gives birth to her second daughter (and later revealed to be her mother), Elisabeth.
4:33 Hannah goes to 1954, not 1953 9:38 Claudia travels from Time machine, not golden time travel sphere. She already gave the sphere to Adam (2) this scene (9:22) is of 22nd June 2053, not the one where she meets Adam in 2053 (September) One more thing: Between 1911 & 1920, Sic Mundus had two Tannhaus machines (the "older" one Jonas arrives with in 1888, which stays there until 2053 & the "younger" one when Hannah arrives with it in 1911, which Noah takes in 1920 to Bartosz) Bizarrely, the Samsonite suitcase the machine is kept in, almost happens in the reverse. Middle Jonas places the new "young" machine into the "old" Samsonite, until eventually Claudia places the "old" time machine into the new Samsonite for the first time when she digs it up. You can see a slightly modified Tannhaus device in S2:E4(see below link). Adam possibly altered it himself by combining the solenoid-looking rods from the chair that go around the eyes to create the EMP. He presumably refined this design, which would explain why Claudia doesn't need a mobile phone to use it after this point - since that was needed to generate an EMP, as stated by Tannhaus. She does take the machine from the Sic Mundus HQ in S3:E8, when she was with her younger self (2040 Claudia). preview.redd.it/uc6x3x6pbjs81.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=9a1c53c3f60c6765b2bbfb677b0eac00f3b34838
@@angriffslusticherWildoger Claudia can literally pick the fuel from 1986 inside the caves. She had the golden orb so she can take fuel as much and as many times as she wants
amazing video. I've never thought a lot of the machine timeline , I just assumed that it somehow made sense. But now I do realize it makes completely sense.
I'm pretty confident Claudia retrieves the Machine in 2052 from Sic Mundus and travels back to June 2019 through God's particle (or maybe with the apple?) to get to Jonas and Michael. Then they travel or stay together to mantain the continuum (making Mikkel disappear, reaching for Peter and Tronte in the Bunker) for a year, until they travel together from 2020 to 1987, where Claudia meets her younger self and then travel back to 1954, while Jonas lays low (and can't travel since Claudia has the machine they used together) for a couple of days, waiting for the moment he has to get to younger Claudia.
Great Video! One Flaw I recognized.... You state Claudia held onto the blue prints for 12 years before she brought them to Tannhaus in 1953. But she actually traveled to 2053 with the orb immediately after receiving the blue prints and handed them off to older Claudia. (as seen in your video @ the 9:10 mark)
I have a hard time understanding how Noah's chair in the bunker fits into all of this. Why does he need to create the chair if they already have a time travel device? Would really like a video on that.
He still need to do it for the sake of the loop to happened again. Though I get you mean, it was kinda useless if we didn't consider about the loop thing..
one question, how did the smart phone worked for 33 years to be used with time machine, when adult Ulrich left it in 1953. Nowadays, they don't even work for 10 years properly.
How did Jonas's machine (with no fuel) travel from 1888 to 2053? Was it hidden in the Sic Mundus HQ for 165 years? Also, was it shown in the series, that Eva sent Hannah to 1911 (forgive me if it was, but I don't remember it)?
It wasn‘t shown, but Hannah tells that she got a visit from an old lady called Eva when she arrives in 1911. Eve told her where (or when) to find Jonas.
Awesome work. Can’t believe how much work went into this video, and into the show in the first place. Just one question: If Claudia only went to Adam ONCE in 2053 as she herself told Adam, how did she get the time machine and take it to Tannhaus in the PREVIOUS cycles? Or does the entire arc of Claudia taking it to Tannhaus happen only ONCE?
That’s a question of mine as well, how does the meeting between 2041 Claudia and Old Claudia happen when Old Claudia *hasn’t* talked to Adam, or if it happens at all, since Quantam Entanglement causes two cases I’ve been curious with that since, with what method does Old Claudia meets her younger self in 1987? We assume that the last time she uses the Orb she stole from alt Claudia, was when she handed it to Adam. And at least in one case, that same Old Claudia meets the 2041 Claudia and tells her she’s already sent Adam to fix everything. Does 2041 Claudia *always* meet the version of herself that takes the time machine from Sic Mundus HQ? But from this video, I think we somehow assume 2041 Claudia always drops off Old Claudia (with her *own* Orb she recently acquired) in the year 1987. She brings the oldest version of herself there, then goes back to her time to ensure the loop continues as it should so she can ultimately become the person she must.
Claudia set herself on a different path when time froze for a second, this caused 2 scenarios, one where she does what all other Claudia’s has done, and one where she went and met Adam instead.
So, does this mean the broken machine ends up with Tannhaus, which may or may not have repaired it? If so, in 2020, it was probably still somewhere in his store, waiting to be found by Charlotte! Unfortunately, it is probably destroyed for good in the 2020 apocalypse
Great explanation! I loved the format of the explanation it really clears everything and I appreciate the work which has went into this. I've been rewatching this series and it's incredible how much I overlooked the first time. I've been finding so many clever references which boggles my mind how a person could've come up with such a complex yet very interesting idea for a show. And the fact that this is the first Netflix original from Germany also has paved the path for future German shows.
I just noticed it now what young Silja was wearing when she and Hannah went to see Jonas kinda like reminds me of what Marty was wearing in Back to the future... hehehe
So the blueprints were made in base of the time machine that Adam had...then Claudia gives that prints to Tannhaus who created it in base to his own creation, and then the old and new time machine who are the same but in different states, meet each other when Jonas Stranger meets Tannhaus.. (? This series is amazing
Thanks so much. Now I can confirm that from 1888 to 2053, the time machine with no fuel has been upgraded by Adam from "need cell phone version" to "no need cell phone version". However, I am still not clear that, since Cesium-137 can be used as fuel of time machine or open the god particle portal, when alt Martha left the fuel to middle ages Jonas, why didn't he use it as fuel to leave 1888 but use it to open the god particle portal? Of course, the old Jonas aka Adam want to keep the things happened exactly the same as the previous cycle, but for middle age Jonas and the teenagers, they just want to leave 1888. Moreover, it is quite strange that why they went to 1888 but not the other time to escape from apocalypse in 2000 in the first place.
If they leave 1888 they must to go to 1921 first, so to 1954, to 1987 SO THAN THEY FINALLY arrive in 2020 Normally the machine works 33 years fowards and 33 years backwards. But in the moment of the apocalypse The Stranger and the others travel directly from 2020 to 1888 (at least it was what I get it for) At this point it's easy to know why the stranger choose to use the CS137 to recreate the god's particle in stead of use it in the apparat
Yes, you're right. Adam upgraded it. You can see a slightly modified Tannhaus device in S2:E4(see below link). Adam possibly altered it himself by combining the solenoid-looking rods from the chair that go around the eyes to create the EMP. He presumably refined this design, which would explain why Claudia doesn't need a mobile phone to use it after this point - since that was needed to generate an EMP, as stated by Tannhaus. She does take the machine from the Sic Mundus HQ in S3:E8, when she was with her younger self (2040 Claudia) preview.redd.it/uc6x3x6pbjs81.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=9a1c53c3f60c6765b2bbfb677b0eac00f3b34838 Stranger Jonas didn't used that fuel because he was committed in finding the origin. He realised that every suffering is necessitated by this origin, that's why when he learnt that there's another world too when she met Alt Martha, he was totally committed in annihilating everyone. That's why he was ready to do anything like killing Martha & his mom. He wanted to end everyone's suffering. He knew the knot can't be severed but can only be destroyed completely.
The machine was left in the Sic Mundus headquarters since adult Jonas arrived there in 1888. It stayed there even after sic mundus left the place, so Claudia just picked it up from the abandoned headquarters in 2053 (at the beginning of the scene you can see her closing the backpack with the machine inside). Then she traveled to 1987 using the golden sphere or the god particle, and there she refilled the machine while talking to younger Claudia in order to make it work again, as seen in 10:00
@@brianbohorquez9450 but the unknowns burnt the sic mundus HQ as shown at 0:46 then how did Claudia got the time machine from there in 2053 because the time machine would also have got destroyed in the fire. 🤔
what happened to sic mundus time portal? was it still there in the year 2019(as 2020 Jonas appeared from there)?so they could have used that for time travel during the post apocalypse.
As I understand it, for a time there are two time machines in the past. The empty one Jonas and the kids used to travel to 1888, and the one Hannah uses to travel to 1911. Old Jonas kept using Hannahs machine. (He gives it to Noah.) But the empty machine is just being stored somewhere in the Sic Mundus HQ. It miraculously survives the fire set by the Unknown and then just lies dormant there in the ruins until Claudia retrieves it more than 100 years later in 2053.
Most people talk about cycles, repeating cycles, but i think there's no such thing. Theres no cycles. We see thing happens like a cycle because we are out, we are observers. We can see they going through time. But if you see between the eyes of one of them, there's no cycle. They life is complete, even with time travel, they won't repeat their lives. Martha has bourn, knew young Jonas, old Jonas, killed by Adam.
@Syed Amaan No I don't think it stayed there for 165 years. I think When Adam, Adult Franziska, Adult Magnus and Adult Agnes travelled from 1921 to 1953 headquarters they took the Machine. Well to be honest I don't know exactly but I think this might be one of the cases.
The entire series is based on the fusion of entangled particle and the loop multiverse concept. In the space travel there would be 2 scenarios i will erase my self (in the moment i violate the causation principle) or i will survive creating an alternative timeline. In both scenarios cause effect coherence is preserved there is always a beginning. The third stable universe (where Tannhaus broke space-time) is a coherent universe meanwhile in the entangled dual loop-universe that principle is broken. In this scenario the time machine is a sort of quantistic fluctuation an event generate from nothing that is present in the entagled way in both eve and adam universe. In this way all that stuff make sense. In this reasoning the last scenes make sense because Martha and Jonas in the stable universe time-travelling broke the coherence principle and they succedto end their origin looped multiverse. Without the time machine the Martha and Jonas multiverse could be possible but as a parallel alternative linear timelines (so more different from the actual story). Btw also a linear multiverse can have a junction points (like the movie "Sliding doors") but that is another story...
My only question is how Claudia got the fuel-less time machine from 1911 sic mundus hq. did we see her travel there and take it? Or was it simply hinted at
that time machine was abandoned 164 years (1888 until 2052). Remember that exist 2 times machines in Sic Mundus. One is carried by Noah -> Bartosz (Season 2), and another is rescued by Old Claudia (in front of Middle Claudia in 2052)
It stays in HG's shop unless he gets rid of it. There should've been a scene of Charlotte finding it in season 2 but I think if everyone in season 2 had a version of it we'd roll our eyes so they decided not to do it or they didn't think about it
Q.1) 13:07 how does Jonas arrive in 1987? Q. 2) Did Old Claudia take him fro. 20th June 2019 to 1986 and then trained him for a year? And he was just living somewhere in Winden and waiting for this moment to arrive? Q. 3) How did Old Claudia travel to 20th June 2019 to take in Jonas for training him after he unwittingly caused his father's suicide? She may have used the Sphere but she isn't likely to reveal that........ Did she use the 2052 God Particle to travel?
Eirikr Vicente After Jonas met his father again in 2019 he and claudia spend one year together to make sure that certain events go the way they are supposed to. Before the Stranger manages to close the passage in 2019 he and claudia travel to the 80s (through the passage!) and wait over six months until the adult claudia accidentally kills egon in his apartment. Elder Claudia gives the keys to her house to jonas and... thats it! 🙂
Noah before giving it to Bartozs used the time machine to to the experiences with the Child between 1986 and 2019. Everyone is okey ? Bit then he gave to Bartosz the machine ( we dont see the scene and it s a problem) because later (2 days after) he goes back to 1921 to die HOW ????
281 years roughly if you consider it's starting point in 1953 when he first starts building it. 248 years if you consider when it first starts being used as a time travel device. That wood fucking endured.
If old Claudia travels to the past to deliver the instructions to adult Claudia and reload the machine and this happens after she talks to Claudia in the burned lair of Sic Mundus, how is that scene out of cycle? So the ending was actually inside the cycle and it wasn't broken?
Is it crazy that Hannah gave up the pendent, then the machine, then died, then Katarina used the machine, eventually reached the pendent, then died as she encountered the pendent? Does this mean Hannah's cursed or what?
In the video it shows Unknown stealing it from Sic Mundus’ headquarters, before burning down the place and giving it to Eva. Sic Mundus is the earliest point for the blueprints that we know, and to maintain the knot Eva ensured those blueprints went to Tannhaus in 1953
Because if you remember she never went to talk to Adam before, she went for the first time. So to end the cycle, she kind of divided herself, and one old Claudia went here to her younger Claudia (this one will die because of Noah) and the other old Claudia will give the Ball to Adam, and that's the end of the series.
@@alejandroarguesocano4469 That's incorrect. Even though she says this is new, Claudia has "always" done this, as the timeline in which the knot is destroyed is also part of the knot, in the same vein as Eva's use of the loophole also being part of the knot. The knot is in a superposition of existence/nonexistence, in the same way Jonas and Martha are both dead/alive. There are several reasons we know this, one of the most obvious ones is that Jonas and Martha influenced their 2006 selves while in the wormhole and they remember this, indicating their actions are not brand new and have always happened. Their 2006 selves obviously exist before Claudia split the timeline, thus this influence is part of the knot. Further supporting this is the fact that the official Dark website ( dark.netflix.io/en ) states there is no "clone" of Claudia. Old Claudia sent Adam to destroy the knot, then introduced herself to her past self, then gave herself the time machine, then got killed by Noah. Everything she did in season 2 (except meeting Jonas in episode 6) happened _after_ she talked to Adam. This means most of her actions throughout the series, actions that are integral to the knot's existence, happened after she supposedly broke the knot. There are plenty of other examples like this. For instance, we see the Adam and Eve painting in Erit Lux has been burned by 2053, and we find out that the Adam that is sent by Claudia is the one who burns it. See this timeline for an idea of how this works: i.imgur.com/0FXmaNR.jpeg The way the "cloning" works is if you time travel to the loophole, a reality/timeline is created where you show up, while in the main timeline you don't show up. If you then time travel out of the loophole from this split timeline, you rejoin the main timeline. If you take someone or something with you, this alternate timeline person/object is now in the main timeline. This is the only explanation that makes sense. People who time travel into the loophole, such as Bartosz or Claudia, don't clone themselves. But people in the loophole that are taken out of it by a time traveler, such as the split Jonas and Martha, do clone themselves. We also must make the assumption that time traveling _out_ of the loophole, while still being in the main timeline, will create an alternate timeline when you arrive at your "destination," explaining how Claudia can split Adam in 2053. Dispensing with the idea that there are repeating "cycles" is also something you might find yourself leaning towards. Almost everyone in the series believes events are repeating in a tangible way, to the point that Jonas is convinced for much of his life that he can break the cycle "this time." Eva does what she does because she believes she'll continually be reborn. But this is possibly untrue. It is correct to say that time is nonlinear and so information (be it genetic information or blueprints for a time machine) caught in bootstrap paradoxes have no discernible origin. Chicken and the egg. But everyone and everything in the show has their own "subjective" timeline that is linear and this timeline does not loop. Jonas is born and then he dies. Jonas does not loop his consciousness back into his unborn self. Jonas has a beginning and an end. Likewise, none of the time traveling objects in the show physically get stuck in a bootstrap paradox. The information that created them might, such as Tannhaus' book or the portable time machine, but the objects themselves have a beginning and an end. The book Claudia gives Tannhaus ends up eroding away on some shelf, it does not find its way back into Claudia's hands. The time machine breaks and stays with Tannhaus, Jonas does not take back the old one. A better way of thinking of it is "time is happening all at once." We tend to think of time as a line continually being extended. Many people think of Dark's timeline as a circle. Some think of Dark's timeline as a coil, each loop feeding into the next. All of these are wrong. Imagine an infinitely long piece of paper. Now imagine that God has an infinitely long stamp. God takes his infinite piece of paper and stamps a line onto it, the line is created all at once. That's time. Everything that will or has happened is stamped into existence. From any one point's perspective, the line ahead of it is the future and the line behind it is the past, but this is only relative. So there are no "cycles" in Dark. Adam and Eva aren't reborn infinitely. They interact with themselves nonlinearly and they create their lineage, but they are not reborn in any way other than the logical/philosophical idea that time is eternal and thus all things living within it live on eternally within their respective times (as Heinrich Tannhaus puts it). To answer the question of how Claudia time travelled without her sphere, she had two main options. Adam could have dropped her off or she could have prepared for the trip by getting cesium beforehand. (Also necessitating that she took Adam, or Adam took her, to June 22 so she'd be aligned with the 33 year cycle. She also could have traveled to any point post-apocalypse to use the God Particle, as she knew how to activate it.)
The out of fuel time machine used by Jonas and the others remains in the sic mundus hq for over 100 years because they dont need it anymore, then old claudia collects it from what remains of the hq in 2053 and brings it with her to the 50's
This is probably the most complicated timeline in the whole series
I find the gun more complicated
@@utsuroid Oh you're right, Aleksander's gun travels a lot. Young Aleksander > Hannah > Stranger/Adam > Agnes (kills Noah with it) > Adam (kills old Eva with it) > Alt Martha (kills Quantum Jonas with it). From there it gets complicated. Claudia kills alt Claudia, and then I don't know anymore.
@@manfob22 Gun used by Adam to not kill Eva is not the same gun
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How do you guys like this format of videos?
Great, great, great!!
Great 👍
Super helpful!
It was amazing! Good work!
Few typos but otherwise great!
This just make more interesting the fact that how complex the creator of this series were when writing it, so awesome!
Lets not forget that Tannhaus was only able to _finish_ his work on his Time machine because he had Jonas' old one to compare his work with.
They are the same time machine
One of the greatest bootstrap paradoxes!
And Sic Mundus drew the blueprints based on the time machine they've got.
Or to start it because of the book on time travel that was already finished in the future.
Everything is based off of Noah's chair. Noah's chair doesn't work til other things happen. Noah wouldn't be on his quest if there wasn't interference from people like Jonas. The caves that they are using while Noah is building his time machine only exist because of of Noah's time machine. Tanhauses machine is based on plans which are a revision of the chair.
Yup. It's called reverse engineering.
Great Job
I'm so glad to see that are people who are big fan of DARK just like I am
I can't imagine how hard you did work in this video
Always good to meet a fellow dark fan
Yessss
Remember the time when the shock was that we found out that Mikkel is Michael 🤣
it really was nothing but a droplet
Only to discover later, that it was just a drop.
What u know is a drop , what u don't know is a ocean..🤭
What we knew was a drop. What we didn't know, was the ocean.
Could you make one for the St. Christopher medal?
I really needed this tbh, the time machine continuity really flew over my head.
I watched this show over a couple weeks this summer and I plan on watching it again once my school semester starts, simply the best piece of television I’ve ever had the pleasure of viewing
Timeline of of Adam's world pocket watch 'For Charlotte':-
1822:- Heinrich Tannhaus makes the pocket watch for in memory of his dead wife Charlotte.
After 1822 and before 1888:- Heinrich's son blind Gustav Tannhaus inherits this watch after his father's death.
1888:-Unknown kills Gustav Tannhaus and steals the watch from Adam's world and bring to 2019 Eva's world and give the watch to Eva.
When apocalypse is happening in Eva's world and Eva sets her pieces in places Eva gives the Adam's world watch to Middle aged Martha.
1888(After Gustav Tannhaus's death):- Eva's world's Middle aged Marath travels where stranger Jonas is trapped and leaves the watch and Alt Maratha's letter on Stranger Jonas desk.
1920:- When Adult Noah comes to Adam looking for his daughter . Adam recruits him and his younger self in Adam's team and tells Adult Noah to give the watch to Child Elizabeth in 2019.
2019:- Child Elizabeth receives Pocket watch from Adult Noah.
In that time line Adult Charrlotte remember having same type of watch when she was having when she was child, from this condition Adult Charlotte thinks that she might be involved in the child missing and other things which are happening in Widen.
2020(After apocalypse) :- Child Elizabeth has lost everyone in her family her mother and sister are lost and her father has died in front of her.
The only thing she has left with is the Pocket Watch.
After 2021 and Before 2041:- Elizabeth grows in post-apocalypse Winden with Noah. They both in love and have baby which is Charlotte. Elizabeth decides to keep the Watch for daughter Charlotte
But in the same year Adult Charlotte and 13 year older Elizabeth come and take away both baby Charlotte and Pocket Watch from Noah and Elizabeth in 2041 timeline.
1970:- Adult Charlotte and Adult Elizabeth give H G Tannhaus the baby Charlotte and Pocket watch.
After 1970 and Before 2019:- The Pocket Watch remains with baby Charlotte while she is growing up in Winden. Eventually the Pocket Watch gets in to the old things stuff of Charlotte and complete it's Journey.
I tried my best to explain the Pocket Watch timeline hope you would understand my answer.
This NEEDS to be a future video for this channel one day.
@@nineteenct Do you mean in past as in our Dark universe
Past==Future==Present
(Everything is Connected) .
Just kidding friend, will never get bored with this show😄😄
The time Machine has 220 year’s old, it depends how old Sylvia was, when they came to 1911
Her name is Silja and when she came with Hannah in 1911 she was 5 years old.
@@4rtsyval I don't remember seeing any mention about Silja being born in 1987. I remember her being Elisabeth's translator in 2052-2053, then Bartosz's partner in 1888-1910. Imagine dying seven decades before you were born.
@@cinnamon4 hannah went back to 1987 and had her in 1988, then moved to 1911 in 1993 and died there; jonas took silja to 2041 where she grew up and then adam sent her back to 1890 in 2053.
@@4rtsyval I just love this sentence.
@@pulkmees me too😍😍
Just when I thought I was ready to move on from the series, you come and create this masterpiece of a video ♥️
My brain just exploded, please do the Triquetra notebook next
I just watched another video that explains the time machine timeline but I can now see yours is superior. Fills in many more details and explains a lot more. With good evidence. Remarkable work
Hatsoff to the writers of this show ❤
And thank you for clarifying the timeline of the machine !!
Really great video, been wanting this one since the show ended, also the subtitle descriptions really help, great job my friend in time
I'm honoured to have watched this series. I have no words to describe how much I love this series.
I truly hope your amazing page is getting the credit it EXTREMELY deserves ! Thank you for your hard work and amazing time lines please please keep them coming !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
these videos are so excellent. i keep coming back to DARK thanks to this channel's explanations of things and timelines. i love this!
I wish I could forget and see this Masterpiece once again.😭❤️.
D A R K is beyond beautiful.
just watch it in another 30 years! :D
Golden time travel sphere next please :)
There are actually multiple spheres so I don’t think it’ll be possible to display the full journey.
There aren't much informations about Martha's world to begin with, the series focuses mainly on Jonas's world story
@@hi.923 I think it's the same sphere but it got split by the loophole too. Sic Mundus designs it, it gets created somehow (maybe by alt Tannhaus), Magnus and Franziska get ahold of it somehow (either Sic Mundus created it and they were the first to use it, or an agent of Eva gives them one of the spheres at some point), and then they give it to alt Martha. She splits, one of the spheres is now with the Martha who becomes Eva and one of them is with the Martha who is killed by Adam. In the timeline in which the cycle continues, Adam uses dead Martha's sphere to travel to Eva's world, kills Eva, and presumably commits suicide. Eva says Martha finds her corpse, so she also finds the sphere. Now there are two spheres in Eva's possession.
Now my brain is just melted
When was the time machine created? The Bootstrap Paradox continues to flow in an endless loop through time. My favorite timeline loop in Dark is Charlotte’s when she gives birth to her second daughter (and later revealed to be her mother), Elisabeth.
It is worth adding that when Charlotte touches the portal where she sees Elizabeth on the other side, it triggers the Apocalyse in Adam's world.
4:33 Hannah goes to 1954, not 1953
9:38 Claudia travels from Time machine, not golden time travel sphere. She already gave the sphere to Adam (2) this scene (9:22) is of 22nd June 2053, not the one where she meets Adam in 2053 (September)
One more thing: Between 1911 & 1920, Sic Mundus had two Tannhaus machines (the "older" one Jonas arrives with in 1888, which stays there until 2053 & the "younger" one when Hannah arrives with it in 1911, which Noah takes in 1920 to Bartosz)
Bizarrely, the Samsonite suitcase the machine is kept in, almost happens in the reverse. Middle Jonas places the new "young" machine into the "old" Samsonite, until eventually Claudia places the "old" time machine into the new Samsonite for the first time when she digs it up.
You can see a slightly modified Tannhaus device in S2:E4(see below link). Adam possibly altered it himself by combining the solenoid-looking rods from the chair that go around the eyes to create the EMP. He presumably refined this design, which would explain why Claudia doesn't need a mobile phone to use it after this point - since that was needed to generate an EMP, as stated by Tannhaus. She does take the machine from the Sic Mundus HQ in S3:E8, when she was with her younger self (2040 Claudia).
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But the machine had no fuel, how was she supposed to use it
@@angriffslusticherWildoger Claudia can literally pick the fuel from 1986 inside the caves. She had the golden orb so she can take fuel as much and as many times as she wants
amazing video. I've never thought a lot of the machine timeline , I just assumed that it somehow made sense. But now I do realize it makes completely sense.
i love how you started and ended with the same scene. the beginning is the end and the end is the beginning
I'm pretty confident Claudia retrieves the Machine in 2052 from Sic Mundus and travels back to June 2019 through God's particle (or maybe with the apple?) to get to Jonas and Michael. Then they travel or stay together to mantain the continuum (making Mikkel disappear, reaching for Peter and Tronte in the Bunker) for a year, until they travel together from 2020 to 1987, where Claudia meets her younger self and then travel back to 1954, while Jonas lays low (and can't travel since Claudia has the machine they used together) for a couple of days, waiting for the moment he has to get to younger Claudia.
Great Video! One Flaw I recognized.... You state Claudia held onto the blue prints for 12 years before she brought them to Tannhaus in 1953. But she actually traveled to 2053 with the orb immediately after receiving the blue prints and handed them off to older Claudia. (as seen in your video @ the 9:10 mark)
Can you explain me that part ? I didn't quite get that part ?
Dude, it can work either way
This is was so well done! I'm gonna need to watch it a couple of times to fully understand.....
I have a hard time understanding how Noah's chair in the bunker fits into all of this. Why does he need to create the chair if they already have a time travel device? Would really like a video on that.
He still need to do it for the sake of the loop to happened again. Though I get you mean, it was kinda useless if we didn't consider about the loop thing..
one question, how did the smart phone worked for 33 years to be used with time machine, when adult Ulrich left it in 1953. Nowadays, they don't even work for 10 years properly.
Whoever thought of this deserve to be one of the greatest minds of all time
Thank you for this! That's some good work right here. Now we need one of this for the Triqueta Book. Please tell me you're planning to do it.
yes
right now i don't have that much time(actually time has me) but i got some videos done and i'll post them when the time is right
Yeah this took me a few headaches to understand but it was worth it
How did Jonas's machine (with no fuel) travel from 1888 to 2053? Was it hidden in the Sic Mundus HQ for 165 years? Also, was it shown in the series, that Eva sent Hannah to 1911 (forgive me if it was, but I don't remember it)?
It wasn‘t shown, but Hannah tells that she got a visit from an old lady called Eva when she arrives in 1911. Eve told her where (or when) to find Jonas.
@@sebastiankoske9591 Thanks!
JONAS's machine was in sic mundus hq for all those years
Do you think you could do a POV for Martha (Eva)?
Awesome work. Can’t believe how much work went into this video, and into the show in the first place. Just one question: If Claudia only went to Adam ONCE in 2053 as she herself told Adam, how did she get the time machine and take it to Tannhaus in the PREVIOUS cycles? Or does the entire arc of Claudia taking it to Tannhaus happen only ONCE?
That’s a question of mine as well, how does the meeting between 2041 Claudia and Old Claudia happen when Old Claudia *hasn’t* talked to Adam, or if it happens at all, since Quantam Entanglement causes two cases
I’ve been curious with that since, with what method does Old Claudia meets her younger self in 1987? We assume that the last time she uses the Orb she stole from alt Claudia, was when she handed it to Adam. And at least in one case, that same Old Claudia meets the 2041 Claudia and tells her she’s already sent Adam to fix everything. Does 2041 Claudia *always* meet the version of herself that takes the time machine from Sic Mundus HQ? But from this video, I think we somehow assume 2041 Claudia always drops off Old Claudia (with her *own* Orb she recently acquired) in the year 1987. She brings the oldest version of herself there, then goes back to her time to ensure the loop continues as it should so she can ultimately become the person she must.
Claudia created an another version of herself
Claudia set herself on a different path when time froze for a second, this caused 2 scenarios, one where she does what all other Claudia’s has done, and one where she went and met Adam instead.
3:30 "hypostases" - what a great, and apposite, word!
So, does this mean the broken machine ends up with Tannhaus, which may or may not have repaired it? If so, in 2020, it was probably still somewhere in his store, waiting to be found by Charlotte! Unfortunately, it is probably destroyed for good in the 2020 apocalypse
Great explanation! I loved the format of the explanation it really clears everything and I appreciate the work which has went into this.
I've been rewatching this series and it's incredible how much I overlooked the first time. I've been finding so many clever references which boggles my mind how a person could've come up with such a complex yet very interesting idea for a show. And the fact that this is the first Netflix original from Germany also has paved the path for future German shows.
There is only one logical explanation. The writes are time-travelers.
I just noticed it now what young Silja was wearing when she and Hannah went to see Jonas kinda like reminds me of what Marty was wearing in Back to the future... hehehe
That's why they say she went to 1987
That was fantastic. I hope to see a ‘Golden Time Travel Sphere Timeline’ video eventually bye you hmuuu.!.
So the blueprints were made in base of the time machine that Adam had...then Claudia gives that prints to Tannhaus who created it in base to his own creation, and then the old and new time machine who are the same but in different states, meet each other when Jonas Stranger meets Tannhaus.. (? This series is amazing
i wonder if each cycle had slight deviations, making the newer ones a tiny bit different than the last
Very nice work
Keep it up
Love u from "SIC MUNDUS CREATUS EST"
Thanks so much. Now I can confirm that from 1888 to 2053, the time machine with no fuel has been upgraded by Adam from "need cell phone version" to "no need cell phone version". However, I am still not clear that, since Cesium-137 can be used as fuel of time machine or open the god particle portal, when alt Martha left the fuel to middle ages Jonas, why didn't he use it as fuel to leave 1888 but use it to open the god particle portal? Of course, the old Jonas aka Adam want to keep the things happened exactly the same as the previous cycle, but for middle age Jonas and the teenagers, they just want to leave 1888. Moreover, it is quite strange that why they went to 1888 but not the other time to escape from apocalypse in 2000 in the first place.
If they leave 1888 they must to go to 1921 first, so to 1954, to 1987 SO THAN THEY FINALLY arrive in 2020
Normally the machine works 33 years fowards and 33 years backwards. But in the moment of the apocalypse The Stranger and the others travel directly from 2020 to 1888 (at least it was what I get it for)
At this point it's easy to know why the stranger choose to use the CS137 to recreate the god's particle in stead of use it in the apparat
They went to 1888 coz it's the only time place that doesn't has any direct connection to the apocalypse (just opinion)
@@ECO_rx Dude, it was a mistake. Them going to 1888 was probably triggered by the apocalypse which quadrupled the power of time machine
Yes, you're right. Adam upgraded it.
You can see a slightly modified Tannhaus device in S2:E4(see below link). Adam possibly altered it himself by combining the solenoid-looking rods from the chair that go around the eyes to create the EMP. He presumably refined this design, which would explain why Claudia doesn't need a mobile phone to use it after this point - since that was needed to generate an EMP, as stated by Tannhaus. She does take the machine from the Sic Mundus HQ in S3:E8, when she was with her younger self (2040 Claudia)
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Stranger Jonas didn't used that fuel because he was committed in finding the origin. He realised that every suffering is necessitated by this origin, that's why when he learnt that there's another world too when she met Alt Martha, he was totally committed in annihilating everyone. That's why he was ready to do anything like killing Martha & his mom. He wanted to end everyone's suffering. He knew the knot can't be severed but can only be destroyed completely.
This is probably more confusing than any of the other videos tbh.
How did Claudia get the machine at 9:16? I doubt Adam would just hand it over seeing as they're enemies, and it would'nt work without fuel anyway.
The machine was left in the Sic Mundus headquarters since adult Jonas arrived there in 1888. It stayed there even after sic mundus left the place, so Claudia just picked it up from the abandoned headquarters in 2053 (at the beginning of the scene you can see her closing the backpack with the machine inside).
Then she traveled to 1987 using the golden sphere or the god particle, and there she refilled the machine while talking to younger Claudia in order to make it work again, as seen in 10:00
@@brianbohorquez9450 but the unknowns burnt the sic mundus HQ as shown at 0:46 then how did Claudia got the time machine from there in 2053 because the time machine would also have got destroyed in the fire. 🤔
@@Pooja-rx2bv Unknown may have not known where the time machine was. It may be in another room.
@@RitikMaurya07 Right. Now it makes sense.
what happened to sic mundus time portal? was it still there in the year 2019(as 2020 Jonas appeared from there)?so they could have used that for time travel during the post apocalypse.
It must be working atleast till Apocalypse day
Operatives of Sic Mundus in 2020 may have destroyed the stabilisation poles on Adam’s orders just after he travels to 2053
I didn't quite get the part at about 9:15. How does Claudia take Jonas' time machine in 2053 that he still has in the 1800s?
As I understand it, for a time there are two time machines in the past. The empty one Jonas and the kids used to travel to 1888, and the one Hannah uses to travel to 1911. Old Jonas kept using Hannahs machine. (He gives it to Noah.) But the empty machine is just being stored somewhere in the Sic Mundus HQ. It miraculously survives the fire set by the Unknown and then just lies dormant there in the ruins until Claudia retrieves it more than 100 years later in 2053.
Most people talk about cycles, repeating cycles, but i think there's no such thing. Theres no cycles. We see thing happens like a cycle because we are out, we are observers. We can see they going through time. But if you see between the eyes of one of them, there's no cycle. They life is complete, even with time travel, they won't repeat their lives. Martha has bourn, knew young Jonas, old Jonas, killed by Adam.
Wow I'm so confused I did not know Hannah traveled to 1987, how did u know that??
in the s2 ep6 she does travel to meet ulrich right?
@@hwasacansteponme yh ik that, but idk how he knows that she traveled to 1987 after she left Egon
@@simonnnnnn4995 I didn't know that neither
@@simonnnnnn4995 wait really? could you tell me the episode in which he gets to know?
@@hwasacansteponme he gets to know what
9:09 how did Claudia het the time machine from Adam? If she never went to tennhause
also didn't understand from that moment
Not broken time machine but no fueled time machine
@Syed Amaan No I don't think it stayed there for 165 years. I think When Adam, Adult Franziska, Adult Magnus and Adult Agnes travelled from 1921 to 1953 headquarters they took the Machine. Well to be honest I don't know exactly but I think this might be one of the cases.
@Syed Amaan hm I almost forgot about it . Yeah Adam and Team were carrying on their work from Power Plant. Yeah you are correct. Thanks.
This is super helpful ! I finally understand. ! Thank you so much ! 😘😘😘
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Is this like a Predestination type thing where nothing can change? Is there a way out?
You are a legend bro
The entire series is based on the fusion of entangled particle and the loop multiverse concept. In the space travel there would be 2 scenarios i will erase my self (in the moment i violate the causation principle) or i will survive creating an alternative timeline. In both scenarios cause effect coherence is preserved there is always a beginning. The third stable universe (where Tannhaus broke space-time) is a coherent universe meanwhile in the entangled dual loop-universe that principle is broken. In this scenario the time machine is a sort of quantistic fluctuation an event generate from nothing that is present in the entagled way in both eve and adam universe. In this way all that stuff make sense. In this reasoning the last scenes make sense because Martha and Jonas in the stable universe time-travelling broke the coherence principle and they succedto end their origin looped multiverse. Without the time machine the Martha and Jonas multiverse could be possible but as a parallel alternative linear timelines (so more different from the actual story). Btw also a linear multiverse can have a junction points (like the movie "Sliding doors") but that is another story...
great work! i'd like to watch the timelines of the golden sphere and the notebook as well!
Very cool video! Cheers.
Hey bro can we get a video on Agnes POV......It may only take one video
My only question is how Claudia got the fuel-less time machine from 1911 sic mundus hq. did we see her travel there and take it? Or was it simply hinted at
that time machine was abandoned 164 years (1888 until 2052). Remember that exist 2 times machines in Sic Mundus. One is carried by Noah -> Bartosz (Season 2), and another is rescued by Old Claudia (in front of Middle Claudia in 2052)
I couldn't get that part still Claudia takes machine from 2053 , at that time jonas n Claudia made god particle, they don't have any machine
It was in hq till 2053 from 1888
After the time machine finish its journey then tannhaus keep it or what happened with it?
Who made the blueprints?
What happened to the old tme machine left in1986 by Adult Jonas?
It stays in HG's shop unless he gets rid of it. There should've been a scene of Charlotte finding it in season 2 but I think if everyone in season 2 had a version of it we'd roll our eyes so they decided not to do it or they didn't think about it
Q.1) 13:07 how does Jonas arrive in 1987?
Q. 2) Did Old Claudia take him fro. 20th June 2019 to 1986 and then trained him for a year? And he was just living somewhere in Winden and waiting for this moment to arrive?
Q. 3) How did Old Claudia travel to 20th June 2019 to take in Jonas for training him after he unwittingly caused his father's suicide? She may have used the Sphere but she isn't likely to reveal that........ Did she use the 2052 God Particle to travel?
Jonas was living in 1986-87. One year training with Claudia. Claudia took him from S2:E6 & left him at this point.
Claudia did use the sphere to travel to 20th June 2019 and then used the caves to go to 1986
How did Jonas went to 1987? He was in 2019 trying to stop Michael's death, and we do not see this in the time travel machine timeline
Eirikr Vicente After Jonas met his father again in 2019 he and claudia spend one year together to make sure that certain events go the way they are supposed to. Before the Stranger manages to close the passage in 2019 he and claudia travel to the 80s (through the passage!) and wait over six months until the adult claudia accidentally kills egon in his apartment. Elder Claudia gives the keys to her house to jonas and... thats it! 🙂
wow.....just wow
That is a hark work...thank you
Noah before giving it to Bartozs used the time machine to to the experiences with the Child between 1986 and 2019. Everyone is okey ? Bit then he gave to Bartosz the machine ( we dont see the scene and it s a problem) because later (2 days after) he goes back to 1921 to die
HOW ????
Excellent , Could you make one for the gun ?
what a masterpiece DARK
Still waiting for the timiline expalined of leather book, Gold watch and more🖤🙏🙁
05:20 Hannah went to 1911 with Silja and the machine. Then when did she go? I can't remember
Ah! I remember it. She died there
Waited long for this
Anybody knows the theme name of S2 E4 (The violin melody when Jonas wakes up in a farm with Yellow Costume)
Thanks in advance.
How old is the machine from its construction till its return to Tanhaus?
281 years roughly if you consider it's starting point in 1953 when he first starts building it. 248 years if you consider when it first starts being used as a time travel device. That wood fucking endured.
I can't imagine how how wrote this show and keep track of everything
Amazing but doesn't adult Jonas use the cave and not the God particle to travel back from the future? He is seen emerging from the cave.
I believe that was helge
Jonas use god particle to travel from 2052 to 2019 coz the cave has broke down by the apocalypse.
In 2019 he use the cave to travel to 1986
Cave is not connected to future. It closes in 2019
It was Helge for sure
How did the time travel sphere come to be?
could you make one for the clock "for charlotte"?
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If old Claudia travels to the past to deliver the instructions to adult Claudia and reload the machine and this happens after she talks to Claudia in the burned lair of Sic Mundus, how is that scene out of cycle? So the ending was actually inside the cycle and it wasn't broken?
Of course, these scenes are inside the cycle. The only ones a«ourside the cycle are after Old Claudia meets with Adam.
This scene 9:22 is of 22nd June 2053 (main timeline) in the cycle
How did claudia get jonas's time machine ( no fuel ) from 1911
It's in the video.She takes it from the destroyed Sic Mundus HQ in 2053
How did Claudia get the time machine from Sic Mundus?
My guess is Agnes stole it for her.
Dude, it was in sic mundus hq all the time
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Is it crazy that Hannah gave up the pendent, then the machine, then died, then Katarina used the machine, eventually reached the pendent, then died as she encountered the pendent? Does this mean Hannah's cursed or what?
Do adult Jonas "the stranger" clips please
But the question is who put the blueprints at Eva Office in the beginning of Time machine Circle ??
In the video it shows Unknown stealing it from Sic Mundus’ headquarters, before burning down the place and giving it to Eva. Sic Mundus is the earliest point for the blueprints that we know, and to maintain the knot Eva ensured those blueprints went to Tannhaus in 1953
thank you so much i appreciate it
9:40 how can she time travel with Golden orb when she just gave it to Adam to save Jonas
Because if you remember she never went to talk to Adam before, she went for the first time. So to end the cycle, she kind of divided herself, and one old Claudia went here to her younger Claudia (this one will die because of Noah) and the other old Claudia will give the Ball to Adam, and that's the end of the series.
@@alejandroarguesocano4469 That's incorrect. Even though she says this is new, Claudia has "always" done this, as the timeline in which the knot is destroyed is also part of the knot, in the same vein as Eva's use of the loophole also being part of the knot. The knot is in a superposition of existence/nonexistence, in the same way Jonas and Martha are both dead/alive. There are several reasons we know this, one of the most obvious ones is that Jonas and Martha influenced their 2006 selves while in the wormhole and they remember this, indicating their actions are not brand new and have always happened. Their 2006 selves obviously exist before Claudia split the timeline, thus this influence is part of the knot. Further supporting this is the fact that the official Dark website ( dark.netflix.io/en ) states there is no "clone" of Claudia. Old Claudia sent Adam to destroy the knot, then introduced herself to her past self, then gave herself the time machine, then got killed by Noah. Everything she did in season 2 (except meeting Jonas in episode 6) happened _after_ she talked to Adam. This means most of her actions throughout the series, actions that are integral to the knot's existence, happened after she supposedly broke the knot. There are plenty of other examples like this. For instance, we see the Adam and Eve painting in Erit Lux has been burned by 2053, and we find out that the Adam that is sent by Claudia is the one who burns it. See this timeline for an idea of how this works: i.imgur.com/0FXmaNR.jpeg
The way the "cloning" works is if you time travel to the loophole, a reality/timeline is created where you show up, while in the main timeline you don't show up. If you then time travel out of the loophole from this split timeline, you rejoin the main timeline. If you take someone or something with you, this alternate timeline person/object is now in the main timeline. This is the only explanation that makes sense. People who time travel into the loophole, such as Bartosz or Claudia, don't clone themselves. But people in the loophole that are taken out of it by a time traveler, such as the split Jonas and Martha, do clone themselves. We also must make the assumption that time traveling _out_ of the loophole, while still being in the main timeline, will create an alternate timeline when you arrive at your "destination," explaining how Claudia can split Adam in 2053.
Dispensing with the idea that there are repeating "cycles" is also something you might find yourself leaning towards. Almost everyone in the series believes events are repeating in a tangible way, to the point that Jonas is convinced for much of his life that he can break the cycle "this time." Eva does what she does because she believes she'll continually be reborn. But this is possibly untrue. It is correct to say that time is nonlinear and so information (be it genetic information or blueprints for a time machine) caught in bootstrap paradoxes have no discernible origin. Chicken and the egg. But everyone and everything in the show has their own "subjective" timeline that is linear and this timeline does not loop. Jonas is born and then he dies. Jonas does not loop his consciousness back into his unborn self. Jonas has a beginning and an end. Likewise, none of the time traveling objects in the show physically get stuck in a bootstrap paradox. The information that created them might, such as Tannhaus' book or the portable time machine, but the objects themselves have a beginning and an end. The book Claudia gives Tannhaus ends up eroding away on some shelf, it does not find its way back into Claudia's hands. The time machine breaks and stays with Tannhaus, Jonas does not take back the old one.
A better way of thinking of it is "time is happening all at once." We tend to think of time as a line continually being extended. Many people think of Dark's timeline as a circle. Some think of Dark's timeline as a coil, each loop feeding into the next. All of these are wrong. Imagine an infinitely long piece of paper. Now imagine that God has an infinitely long stamp. God takes his infinite piece of paper and stamps a line onto it, the line is created all at once. That's time. Everything that will or has happened is stamped into existence. From any one point's perspective, the line ahead of it is the future and the line behind it is the past, but this is only relative.
So there are no "cycles" in Dark. Adam and Eva aren't reborn infinitely. They interact with themselves nonlinearly and they create their lineage, but they are not reborn in any way other than the logical/philosophical idea that time is eternal and thus all things living within it live on eternally within their respective times (as Heinrich Tannhaus puts it).
To answer the question of how Claudia time travelled without her sphere, she had two main options. Adam could have dropped her off or she could have prepared for the trip by getting cesium beforehand. (Also necessitating that she took Adam, or Adam took her, to June 22 so she'd be aligned with the 33 year cycle. She also could have traveled to any point post-apocalypse to use the God Particle, as she knew how to activate it.)
@@michaelhenry3234 you said it all right. I agree with you
@@alejandroarguesocano4469 there are no 2 Claudias but only one
Why do I get vibes of watching crime chronological scene lol
But we still don't get to know how the time machine end up in 2053(that old claudia takes to give it to her youngerself)
It' Adult Jonas's broken time machine that remains in the Sic Mundus HQ until 2053 when Claudia travels there and gets it
@@DARK-zv4cl the videos actually made it simpler. Great work👍. Still obsessed with the show.
Amazing...
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Great job, but I didn't understand how the machine came to old Claudia
The out of fuel time machine used by Jonas and the others remains in the sic mundus hq for over 100 years because they dont need it anymore, then old claudia collects it from what remains of the hq in 2053 and brings it with her to the 50's
How did you come to the conclusion that Hannah travelled to the 80s to raise Silja?
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