Gibson 2017 Les Paul Shoot Out - Standard vs Traditional!
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I just spent $5,500 on a Les Paul, I dunno how to play it, but I just go places with it in my lap and people ask "Do you play guitar?" and I say, "You bet your ass I do." And then I just stare at them.
Hank Hill congrats, you won stupidest comment on the internet today
I win that everday. ;)
Does it help you sell propane and propane accessories?
Hank Hill 2bc
Like a true djentelmen
anyone else not like the way the wee plastic treble/rhythm ring is gone?
Oisin McPhillips so true, I can't stand it /=
Oisin McPhillips yeah m8 they dont look like true gibsons without that plastic ring
You could always buy one and add it on yourself
well yeah, of course you can add one, but anyone else think they just look a bit PRS-ish ?
Do you guys realize that a PRS single cut is actually a copy of a Les Paul?
Lee's blues licks have slowly become the reason I wake up every day
been an LP fan since I was a little kid, and the blueberry burst one just made all that love for LP burst me into happy tears, love it!
That jam was one of the best ones yet! Great job guys, keep it up
The 2017 range gets a thumbs up from me (& yes, I would say that wouldn't I!). The quality is great & the range offers everything from simple & affordable, American built Les Pauls for under £700 (even Fender don't make American guitars for that money), right up to the Les Paul Standard HP, which is a guitar that is constantly evolving & innovating in the true spirit of Les Paul (the man). If the aesthetics of the 2017 range aren't to your liking, then panic not - you've always got the option of looking at used Gibson guitars, or waiting for the 2018 range ;)!! And if you're of the opinion that Gibson got it right in 1959 & shouldn't change anything at all, then just look at the Custom Shop range - that's authentic right down to the kind of plastic they use to make the toggle switch knob! And if after all that is taken in to consideration you still don't like anything about Gibson guitars remember this important fact.... you don't have to buy one!
Captain that was the most melodic beautiful solo I’ve ever heard you do. I think you sold me on the traditional t. Your solo has a brothers in arms from dire straits vibe to it in the beginning, and I love it.
I love it when Lee plays the lead, he's style is just beautiful, always great melodies
I can't say I love the aesthetics of the 2017 lineup. I guess they are selling a lot of guitars in Dubai now.
why do you say that lol
rossispossiofone hahaha, I thought the exact same thing when I saw the blueberry one. A definite supercar vibe going on in the 2017 line up.
Yes, all bling, no taste. Those chrome-y knobs - bloody Nora.
Yeah chrome knobs, pickup frames, and truss rod cover are a bit much. Thankfully it's all easily replaceable with traditional parts and those are fairly cheap. Just seems a bit crazy, i guess someone at Gibson really loves chrome. :D
Exactly! The PRS colours are fair enough, if a little on the nose, but the chrome...
loving the look of that blue/purple one
that bit of solo from the captain at the end was one of the best I heard in your videos, cheers from Montreal Canada
Thanks Gents I love watching your demo session I just purchased a 2017 Gibson les Paul standard hp blueberry burst, Peace and Play On
The only thing I really can't stand is all the chrome on the HP models. It automatically makes me think of cheap car parts. It's just tacky looking.
agree with you 100% the chrome nobs and chrome truss rod cover on the hp standard are horrible :// I don't have the money to buy either though 😂
Agree 100% as well. "Nasty bits", but easily replaced. And that sparkley truss cover... Oh well, at least it's not 2015 anymore.
aelberg3172 I think they are cool. My fave knobs are the top hat ones
what is wrong with chrome, and no offense but you can't compare a guitar to car. i think it looks great, but i can't afford it anyway. but if i had the money for it I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
It's personal taste, for me it just looks better on the Blueberry burst. That's why I chose the HP over T since it gave it a more spacey look. I also like the chrome on the cherry sunburst. The rest of the color choices don't really fit the chrome in my opinion.
I played a couple of the 2017s, I really think this is a good year. All the way up and down the range were Ace.
I can't believe how magical that blue burst les paul looks... I mean really though!!! That is insanely beautiful!
Lee! You melted my face off with that last solo.
Why did they get rid of the "Rhythm Treble" little circle label on the toggle switch. I hate the LPs without em. Look like ESPs
Justin Willhoit
I feel the same way. We never realize how substantial that little piece of plastic is until it is gone. I personally love the Rhythm/Treble ring and the pick-guard on the Les Paul. For me, they are an essential part of it. But that is just my thoughts on the matter.
I prefer it as well. I just wish my Les Paul sounded as good as my ESP. I might upgrade it to the same DiMarzio 36th Anniversary pickups or maybe a set of Thornbuckers.
Tristan Jordens mine wasn't stored that way
Interesting, I didn't notice that right away. Esp > Gibson though, has to be said.
Justin Willhoit Exactly what I was thinking ! Down to the letter !
i would seriously buy an album with just you two playing together. release a video of you guys just jammin. 15 mins long i suppose.
Banx I agree. I was just saying that last jam was amazing! Something about it just stood out. "Tons of tone."
the capt got tone. just love his tone. rob is better when he slows down. a few tracks of chilled out jamming would be cool.
Idea of the year good sir!
YES!!! This needs to happen.
Banx That's a great idea!
Super excited for this for a while. It's about time lol.
big part of the fun watching andertons is hearing how everyone of you evolves as a player and musician :-)
Can we just admit Cpt's playing at the 7th minute? So damn good
wow, the blue-purple one is awesome!!
Justin Schnitz
Blueberry Burst is quite amazing
I really dig that blue one as well. Sucks, because as soon as I get one, I'm going to swap out for EMGs. making it even more expensive.
Michael St George what are EMGs?
EMG's are pick ups. The EMG 81/60 set are active pick ups, which I think give a more metal sound.
The Captain has got that melo feeling with his solos. I am loving it. I am popping in to Andertons tomorrow to get a Gibson. Called in to query on stock. Superb customer service. These guys are amazing. Well done
what i realy like about the andertons site is that they discribe individual les pauls , i saw individual weight mentioned and the top discribed aswell as in wide flame and so on , good work !
I'm a shreddy metalhead, and I nearly ALWAYS prefer the Capt's solo's over Rob's. So damn good.
Am I the only one who really likes the 2017 models. I NEED THAT BLUEBERRY BURST IN MY LIFE.
I have a Blueberry Burst. Photos/videos don't do justice to the true beauty of the guitar.
@@Jacobin777 I've been looking online for a left handed model and its like looking for a needle in a haystack lol. Absolutely beautiful
@@johnnytightlips991 I'm lefty also however when I started playing guitar a few decades ago, the guitar store by my house had only right-handed guitars so my mom bought me that for my birthday. Good thing since I was starting from scratch anyway.
@@Jacobin777 man I wish thats how I learned but I tried playing righty upside down and as soon as i got a left handed guitar the difference was night and day, everything just flows 10x easier for me
@@johnnytightlips991 Well if that works for you then that's great! 🙂👍 Speaking if lefties like us...50 years ago today...Jimi Hendrix 🙁
You guys are doing gods work by making all these videos! Haha it's crazy to think that I'm all the way in Cali and I'm watching your videos every day because they are super informative and entertaining lol. It's like a guitar and gear podcast. Keep up the good work Andertons
That jam on the aeromancy riff made my day! Well done captain !
3:50
High performance Gibson is GREAT for live shows cause it's so much easier to tune quickly and not so many can play standing up as good as they do while sitting down so the heel joint thing on HP line is great and it's lighter. Custom shop will be amazing for recording ( not sure about modern era line cause I don't know anything about them )
I honestly think that Gibson just needs to release 3 models each year.
"Traditional" - all the 'normal' stuff.
"Standard" - a couple obvious bells and whistles that most people can agree on, whatever that may be.
"High performance" - let the Gibson people go nuts and put all the goofy stuff on it for the people who want that.
The traditional is the same guitar every year. The standard might change a touch from year to year, but only as certain advancements become standard protocol in the industry. The high performance is a totally different thing every year.
They'd have a product for everyone. All the purists. All the tweakers. All the guys who just want a good Les Paul, but kind of also want a compound radius fretboard.
I think Gibson saw this and listened to you and released their 2019 range!
Those Traditional LP's are awesome looking.
Capn Lee is one of the best presenters on UA-cam. Nice job guys.
Great playing Captain. Well well done!!
I guess I'm going to be the only one who says I LOVE the innovations, it takes care of everything I didn't like about them before. Now I want one! If you want same old same old, they still have models with that....or get a used one like every other traditionalist.
That blueberry burst is so sexy. Almost makes me consider getting one.
Finally I have been waiting for this for so long!
all i want is a reply from rob and my life will be complete
A. TAWFIK Greetings :-)
+Rob Chapman OMG!!! IM YOUR BIGGEST FAN MAN. I WATCH YOUR VIDEOS HERE AT THE PYRAMIDS ALL THE TIME !!
+Zachary Williams they sound great but its really hard 2 play with. u could put your whole index finger under the strings on the 12th fret and not only that I have like the biggest fucking neck in the world.
hey man, you might want to adjust your truss road if you have such a high action at the 12th fret
yeah the action will always be higher, but it shouldn't so high as it's impossible to play. I play with anything from 11s to 13s and any change of string size will need a small amount of tweaking to allow you to get the most out of your guitar
Why don't they fix the headstock everyone knows it has major tuning issues and they still keep it the same!
they remove a poker chip and people get stroppy - people would be having brain aneurysms if they changed the head-stock too.
RockingGamer you think that'd go down well?
Ayerst.net ROTFLOL
Never had any tuning probs with my LP, playing up to 40 gigs a month. Never! Just stretch your strings. Oh, and we only had one electronic tuner to use before the gig! Recordings of gigs showed no out-of-tuneness, because we were professional, skilled players. Mini-Moog was a bit iffy, though!
They should really do that on the hp models
I like it when Rob was admirably looking at Lee while he was playing some Jazz chords progression. He must have thought to himself..... wow.... Lee has come a long way hasn't he. I have tons of respect for Captain as a business owner and a super awesome team leader. Lee has created something truly special in this cut throat & crowded business world. Salute!
You guys make my favorite reviews. Keep it up!
I hope they've sorted out the quality issues! The best advice I can give if you want to buy a Gibson is to try one out properly before you buy. Then compare it to guitars from say PRS or Ibanez, for example, other makes of guitar are available!
Decades ago I bought my first proper guitar a 1972 Gibson Les Paul Custom in Cherry Sunburst with gold hardware - I loved it - it weighed a ton, probably well over 10lbs, but I wish I still had it. I changed to a Fender Strat when I started gigging; it was more versatile (great design) and I also didn't want a permanent grove in my shoulder and a bad back! Over the years my guitar collection has expanded :-) so last year I decided to take a look at my first love again - the Gibson Les Paul Custom. Things had moved on over the decades, chambered bodies and the like, so I popped-in to my local music store and tried one. Sadly, I couldn't believe how bad the quality was, my heart just sank. The guitar was priced at £2300 but it felt like a Chibson - a cheap Chinese copy! I just thought, how could a once great guitar company produce something like this, I couldn't believe it.
I had previously bought a PRS SE245 for £399 in a sale, which was built by the World Music Instrument Co Ltd in Korea and it's miles better; a great guitar. The finish on the nicely contoured body was like a mirror, and, to this day, it's one of the best built guitars I've ever come across. It has a lovely solid feel to it, it's very comfortable and sounds great. I searched the forums and read a few reviews to find out what has happened to Gibson. Apparently, it all boils down to Henry Juszkiewicz the CEO. People say that he's an arrogant control freak, he's demoralised the workforce, they absolutely detest the man, and the quality of the guitars is very poor, not good. Many guitarists now think that Gibson guitars are way overpriced, overrated and a lot of people hate the way that the Gibson G FORCE Automatic Tuning system is forced upon them. It's sad to say but this company is in trouble and has been for years.
Caveat emptor.
my 2016t studio is awesome and has no quality issues at all. Not all of Gibson is bad.
So many people whining about the plastic ring being removed. If you need a piece of plastic to tell you which pickup you're using, start playing the flute instead.
Chris P. Bacon Pretty sure people know which pickup they're playing on, it's about losing something iconic looking on a Les Paul. It looks horrible without it.
TheMusicfan189 Horrible? Really? So the whole guitar is ruined because of a piece of plastic? Talk about exaggeration.
Chris P. Bacon If you like it without it, fair enough. But it absolutely ruins it for me. Looks like a shite knock off or a shitty ESP.
By far my favorite guitar channel on youtube. I'm a Les Paul guy and a Andertons guy
That Les Paul Standard with the blue/purple finish is beautiful.
I have seen 2017 Les Paul's for sale Used already.
demantoid shouldnt be a surprise
i bought a 2004 ibanez that way. they even had the box and tag on the head stock at the shop. 200 bucks cheaper tho. :D
Can u review the new fender offsets
What a fantastic jam at the end! Top job lads!
what's the riff song?
Nice video! Those new finishes on the 2017 range look absolutely beautiful. Idea for a video: you should do a Captain tries to sound like Chappers and vice vice versa.
I think they should also provide a vanilla version of the standard, no coil taps etc. oh and Gibson please leave the crazy colors to PRS :)
Alan Stokes no doubt. ..that thing is ugly
Love that blue!! Nice of Gibson to modernize just a little tiny bit in the finish dept.
Yeah! I sure hate when companies I like have other color options.
yeah, i much prefer they just made the same ugly sunburst with 300 million different names for every time they accidentally added too much or too little dye
Am I the only one who misses robs dreads
Boss Nation no
Maybe not a great combo with Grecian 2000
me too :(
yep only one
Yes
Love the purple/blue paint job.
Lee's playing on the outro is sublime
So... i'm confused. The traditional hasn't got a scratchplate, but the one thats supposed to be "modern" has???
Cornelius Larsen they all have removable magnetic guards
Chibson shootout when?
Nothing beats the looks or sounds of a Les Paul!
Chappers is obviously great but loving the captains playing! Such a great combo, keep doing what you're doing guys :)
The traditional spec has no pokerchip round the toggle switc. What's traditional about that? Wish Gibson would just focus on making great quality guitars rather than all these tweaks they keep doing. They got it right in 58,59,60 so why keep messing with it?
i completely agree.
Colin Robertson cos its not 58,59,60 anymore, times change, preference changes. Les Paul are such un ergenomical guitars to play, and if they can make adjustments to them to make it better and easier to play, u say go for it. and its a little peice of plastic, its not like it ruins the tone not having it there, tho you seem like the person who would argue otherwise.
Brendan Statham you've no idea what Kind of person I am. I was only asking a question and voicing a point of view. Sorry you seem so upset by my opinion. Obviously the pokerchip has no effect on tone ( silly boy) the les Paul is what it is. If you find it uncomfortable to play then maybe it's not the guitar for you. Theses plenty alternatives out there. I just think Gibson and fender got it right first time and instead of trying to tweak or change things Gibson should focus on what made them the iconic guitars that they are.
You pulled your comment.
Got it right? Gibson guitars weren't selling then. Only when people such as Jimmy Page was playing those guitars, did they become popular. When cars stated to loose their finish and the paint stated to fade in a term called "cancer," people sued the car companies and won. That "cancer" is a prized feature on the Gibson guitars of those years.
At first sight, the sign behind Rob's head resembled an afro cut.
#AfRob
i thought he had a russian hat on
that last jam was friggin awesome...
i am in love with those gibson 17 les paul standards
Missing switch ring looks stupid. The new silver parts look naff too. I thought they'd learned their lesson with the logo/hologram nonsense in 2015... obviously not.
Yeah I hate this year's line up
Dan Harris Maybe it's like the classic star trek movies. Every second one is good:)
2017 is the year I'm in the market for a new high-end guitar, probably not going to be Gibson (maybe second hand) but certainly not from the 2017 lineup...
I always take the switch plate off. It's the 2nd thing I do, right after I remove the scratch plate, and right before I put on strap locks.
A Rhythm/Treble ring costs less than $2.00....... www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_Parts/Nuts_and_Washers/Toggle_Switch_Plate.html?gclid=CjwKEAjwnebABRCjpvr13dHL8DsSJABB-ILJcc0xp3j7-IzD3uP1zWw72V9V1dBZFFlrq5GsUVCOlxoCAM_w_wcB
Gibson could take cheeseburgers from McDonalds, throw their logo on them, and sell them for 500$ a piece...and the worst part is people would be like oh my god it tastes so much better!!!
Zack Ramsey so true
😂😂 captain needs to read this
Anything would taste better than a Big Mac. Even a bun with a Gibson poker chip in it.
I got a cheap 70s tribute and it is seriously the best guitar I've ever played.
Harley Davidson does the same thing
Man I really love those tone relieved guitars.
You guys are doing gods work here.... Thanks!
Call me when they change the break angle of the neck.
I like everything about the high performance ones except the metal pickup rings and knobs. That's a big design mistake imo, makes it looks cheap and not like a Les Paul.
how does it make it look cheap, sure it doesnt fit in something like a generic burst #38 les paul, but if it was something like solid white it could look quite good
Gaseous Snake
That's what I meant, it doesn't look right on a guitar like this. I can picture it looking cool on a black/white guitar but not LPs.
Good thing they're incredibly inexpensive to swtich out, eh?
Their ease of being changed is not the point. Why should I have to change them out? They should look good right out of the box.
You should have to change them out because it's an off-the-rack guitar, not one you custom ordered. To look good FOR YOU.
Wow.... that purple les paul looks sooooo nice!
I was screaming at the screen during the pickup switch cover conversation. Always need the pickup switch cover!!
What I want Gibson to do is make a true traditional Les Paul 59 like the days of old without the silly 5k+ price tag. It's f*cking ridiculous, in what way is this traditional?
Yeah keep the traditionals like the 50's and 60's and do what they want with the other models, but keep sense in mind
I mean it's not just the pickup selector plate that's missing, it's original tuners, etc. And what I really don't understand is body weight relief. Surely it's another thing to do during production so it can only cost more than opposed of not doing it...
Get a Tokai 😄
Frans JC Martins rather get another stratocaster
I have one strat in my collection. See my profile pic, Tokai. I have two of them beauts, a Paisley and a LS420,
Probably one of a select few around. The only second strat I'll even consider is a Tokai 😄
Am I the only one who likes the new Gibson Les Paul's?
No, I like them too. I've got 2 and they are great guitars.
Connor Agnew I fucking love this years line up
I think they look great.
I'm really just debating on which type and either the Blueberry Burst or Green Ocean Burst.
It's good to see Gibson trying harder.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind them experimenting with the standard model but the traditional isn't really a traditional version of a Les Paul. So everybody who wants a ''normal'' vintage like normally priced LP is left out...
Nice new Gibsons. Thanks for the video on their quality.
I have one of the 1st 2017 model ...mine came with pickguard installed ..added treble rhythm puck ..changed pickups , lead pro and 57 classic , oil paper new old stock russian .47 cap .....Faber bridge....weighs 9lbs ...plays and sounds awesome love it
I may actually consider getting a 2016 now. These look terrible.
get the early 2000's or 90's Standards
Im slowly leaning towards them, been looking around online. These newer models have these ridiculous over done flame tops.
Anthony .Varone I personally would save up and get myself a custom shop historic reissue as they're MILES superior than the USA models.
same here I don't like the look of these at all.
I actually really like the blue
Those amps sounded awful. Why do these companies keep changing line ups? Just like phones. New things every year when there was nothing wrong with it anyhow.
Matter of preference. Personaly I didnt like 2016 line and I really loved those amp sounds, especially the friedman, but thats just me.
Aprove!
i mean it's subjective, and you're also listening through compressed UA-cam audio so it won't be as good as real life
I don't think there's anything wrong with the amps but these guys do tend to get, to my ears, incredibly unpleasant and over-saturated tones.
Cap, ur musicality is really good these days...well done
Beautiful final jam.
They just dont look right without the pickguard
Stinkfist2000 in my opinion i think the missing pickup selector ring looks more wrong..
id keep both if it was up to me
Stinkfist2000 indeed.. Also, what is up with them removing the little ring on the traditional? shouldn't it be like.. Traditional?
First thing to drop off every L.P. copy I've had are the panties.
216trixie whatever floats your goat man xD
All the chrome on the high performance version is too gaudy for my tastes. Ironically it makes the very expensive version look like a cheap knock off.
I'm really loving the colors
First Andertons video i watched was 2014 gibsons, been watching for 3 years 😄
2015 was a shit year for gibson.
2016 was quite good
2017 Gibson be like "Lets do some ultra ugly shit like 2 years ago"
Wow, rob's amp sounds awful, especially compared to lee's.
That antique burst is beautiful
Haha rob! “Can’t we have all the access” I wish they offered that heel on a lot more models too. I have gotten used to the traditional heel, but that seems like it’s way more comfortable.
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Single coil on a LP is blasphemy!
Ask Jimmy Page about that.
phreak1118 isn't a p90 a single coil?
So is the P94 (humbucker size P90).
I must say that the jam at the end was beautiful :')
the ring around the selector missing sucks, i would buy one to put on. nice guitars, thx Rob & Capt for the video on them
I'm gonna say it, these bursts look REALLY tacky. Why not just do some simple colours, and some tasteful bursts.
The chrome EVERYTHING on high performance one is some seriously next level tacky.
Leave it to Gibson to have a great year and follow it up by not learning their lesson whatsoever. Colors are terrible, antique burst is probably the ugliest les paul color ever made and the rest range from awful to meh. The high performance idea was a great one until somebody decided to put the chinsiest cheapest looking chrome plastic all over the guitar making the most expensive les paul standard you can buy effectively look like a child's toy. Then on the traditional model, the one that as it's name implies is supposed to be without gimmicks just the traditional appointments now has no pickguard or switch ring... And again the color options are terrible. Then no neck size options so you're stuck with the thin neck. The only bright spot I can find here is the abr 1 bridge stock on the traditional. Besides that man Gibson what are you doing? And this is coming from a guy that owns 3 Gibsons and is a whole hearted Gibson fanboy. Looks like 2016 as predicted by a lot of people will go down as a special year and this will only reinforce that.
i read your pain there, but the thin necks is the BEST thing they have done:)! I do agree that the chrome thing is not very cool, does look cheesy.
Thanks guys! Nice jam.
Lee's solo at the end was great
Sacrilege no rhythm & treble indicator
Really these guitars are for people with more money than sense. You could easily buy a MUCH nicer vintage MIJ copy that will increase in value for less money than USA built LPs. But people are obsessed with logos.
Butterfield Studios that is a poor man's comment, just get a better job, buy the Gibson and stop hating
Mojoncito Jensen why would I pay more for a worse guitar that loses value? That's not what a smart man does. A fool and his money etc.
Butterfield Studios If you find the guitar for your life you don't care for its value.
bla bla sure, but there's no benefit to buying something inferior for more money... Unless the guitar for you is based only on the logo, not on the quality, value or tones.
Maybe if you collect guitars and dont actually play them... But even then...
And the sheer number of dodgy cheaply built Gibsons around makes collecting them a bit silly IMO.
Not that there aren't good ones - of you spend 3k+, but... Why?
The logo on the headstock.
Butterfield Studios I think I agree with you, but I wouldn't say "for people with more money than sense". Sounds to hard for me. I really don't care if somebody owns one of these, that doesn't make him a better or worse person. Just let the people buy, what they want.
I'm usually a fan of the really classic looking sunbursts and such but that blueberry burst is really trippy looking. I could see a guy like Kevin Parker rocking a color like that.
I love the color of the blueberry burst les Paul
Can anybody tell me why the f*ck are these 3000$
Nelson Silva play one and you will get it
Nelson Silva Because they're Gibsons. But I won't lie, they feel amazing. Pretty worth the price I guess, but I wish they were more in the $1000 range like Fender
Mojoncito Jensen I've played one and I can honestly say I didn't play a 3000$ guitar.
TacticalLabrador with 3000 $ you can buy a prs. a prs > gibson anyday and fucking plays, sounds and looks better
own a prs custom 22, and a couple les pauls, its apples and oranges bro, both awesome brands
All that chrome really looks terrible
That blue burst is beautiful
Am I the only one that watches everything with Rob and Lee just to have them keep me company? I don't care for Les Pauls at all, I just enjoy watching the boys go at it.
gibsons line looks worse and worse every year.
Agreed
They're trying to get the PRS style colours going. Some of them look ok, but does't really suit an LP, in my opinion.
its sad that Gibson les paul has to imitate their imitator called PRS
***** Do you have eyes?
littleredguitars2 lmao