Bro I got some questions about leveling as prot pally, could I still tank dungeons using the AOE pally build you laid out in your “AOE PALLY LVL’N” vid? Sorry for the off topic question but I’m new to tanking and I don’t wanna eff up lol
@@nixn6412 it's all good man. Yeah you definitely can tank with that build. Only downside is no avengers shield to help with pulls but it's not needed. I tanked with it, you're good. :)
@@Toyhouze appreciate it my guy. Love the vids, I see you’re doing your thing. Taking the mantle as the WoW classic guy. Your vids are hella informative, keep up the great work
Deathbringers will for certain! Also there's the 7th place on the list the Dislodged Foreign Object trinket is awesome too , at peak 1210 spell its nice enough for a super boost proc.
You are helping me get excited for wotlk. I will likely never see any of these drop, but it sure makes for a good expansion to have so many game changing items available.
For naxx and ulduar heroic Mode just means 25 man. No idea why he didn't just say 25 man. But when you want to go naxx or ulduar you use heroic for 25 man and normal for 10 man
@@dulkansilberaxt hard mode is not equal to heroic mode. Hard mode in Ulduar - specific way of beating boss encounter, that is significantly harder than usually. It is available for almost every boss there (except for Kologarn and Algalon), both in 10 and 25 man variants.
@@Sornemus The point is, that toyhouze said heroic mode in the video, not hard mode and the commenter I replied to assumed heroic mode means hard mode. And you are incorrect, Val'anyr fragments only drop in 25-man.
My first time in ICC, was 25 man, I was ret pallie, Byrntroll dropped and I won the roll. Kept that till I eventually finished the legendary weapon quest and equipped that beast. As much as I loved Shadowmourne, the trolling I got for having Bryntroll equipped with some pretty average dungeon blues early on was so worth it, gave me the warm and fuzzies.
The shards for Val’anyr have a very low chance to drop from every 25 mode boss, both in Normal and Hardmode. Certain hardmode bosses have a slightly higher chance to drop a shard. The only boss that has a guaranteed drop is, of course, Yogg himself, in both N and H.
Imo the healing trinket from Blood Queen in ICC should also be mentioned, a trinket that gladiator/rank1 healers will be obtaining as quick as possible.
Had the reg 25 versions of the first 2 on the list when Wrath was current. Grimtroll bone axe and the deathbringers will, both were really good and got me in the top 30 warriors on the server back in the day. I could pound the hell out of the bosses, would take agro if the tank wasn't good, I'd deal too much damage when I used all cooldowns. I had the purfied sword from the ICC dungeons that drops for a long quest chain, Quel- delar I think its called and Brytroll for my 2 weapons for a time. Until I got another 264 2h weapon for fury.
@@meta1152 I would go for the 2H Citadel Enforcer sword off the first boss as it has stats then aim for Cryptmaker off Blood Prince Council which isn’t too difficult to get to on normal. There’s always the battered hilt quest if you have enough gold
@@brandoncastellano1858 gloren is tank bis for expertise and higher stats, second to that would prolly be Citadel Claymore from first boss if you need the hit rating otherwise yeah it’s good
remind me on my ret paladin i use deadbringer plus tiny abomination best trinkets i got during wrath and remeber one trinket from last patch drop in 5 man doungeon with armor pent what a great time.
Bryntroll should have only worked on melee white hits promoting haste. I also think it should be effected by bonus to healing received. I think this is the best way to have a leeching effect in wow. The shadowlands leech stat is just boring. You can control how much of it you get. This is one of my favorite items in the game. I wish they made these more often after wrath.
Ulduar doesn't have heroic mode. Ulduar is only 10 or 25 man. Some bosses have hard modes. Shards to start quest for Valanyr only drop in 25man. You can get 3-8 shards per run
Can you help me guys i watch one clip and I cant find it now. val'anyr and I think is a shield lvl 60 but don't hold me on a word. Item says it give absorb on natural healing and its lover lvl than wotlk and people use to use it with val'anyr on holy paladin to meta heal in WRATH can you guys please help me if you know the name of item or shield. Thanks . Great video btw
In original WotLK could equip two solaces, one 25 and one 10 man. I had both on my druid and could spam anything I wanted the whole fight and never have to look at my mana, it was sick. Most of time had enough haste to roll lifebloom on all the tanks and spot heal in between. Topped apm and healing nearly every fight.
I don’t think sm is that hard to get, you get the pieces off bosses which could be normal and heroic. All you need to do is run icc a lot and get the stuff prio’d to you and you’ll eventually have it
i only played my dk back then and achieved everything you could achieve and still didn't run out of things to do. also doing dailies on alts is a pain in the a^^
What is funny, Shaman could use 2h axes and Blizzard hated 2h shaman so much, they left them off the BiS Shadowmorun. You could use a macro that when you use storm strike, you swap to SM for it to double hit, then switch back to DW via macro for damage. Imagine if it gave agility to the shaman instead, this would of made Enhancement even more powerful for either AD or Spellenhance.
Huge blunder to not include the objective #1 item--at least for pvp--Bauble. More than half the mp5 of Solace, and game changing essentially Desperate Prayer useable on an ally or self. On all Pservers, everyone equipped it. Healers are human with Solace/Bauble, and DPS, especially double DPS like rogue mage are BOTH using Bauble, even the rogue. Complete meta changer and people, even melee, will be blowing thousands of $ worth of RMT gold in gdkps for it. If we're PvE focused, Solace really should be #1, even beyond Shadowmourne. It is completely changes how the game is played, both for the healers and even caster dps, and thus for the rest of the raid. Honestly, how powerful Bauble and Solace are are making me not want to play Wrath because, as a disc priest pvper, I don't want to feel obligated to buy $2k USD of gold to get the items to not be raging at the disadvantage in arena and inability to R1 title without them. Just that power they hold makes them by far #1 and #2.
Which item is your favorite in WotLK?
Bro I got some questions about leveling as prot pally, could I still tank dungeons using the AOE pally build you laid out in your “AOE PALLY LVL’N” vid? Sorry for the off topic question but I’m new to tanking and I don’t wanna eff up lol
@@nixn6412 it's all good man. Yeah you definitely can tank with that build. Only downside is no avengers shield to help with pulls but it's not needed. I tanked with it, you're good. :)
@@Toyhouze appreciate it my guy. Love the vids, I see you’re doing your thing. Taking the mantle as the WoW classic guy. Your vids are hella informative, keep up the great work
Deathbringers will for certain!
Also there's the 7th place on the list the Dislodged Foreign Object trinket is awesome too , at peak 1210 spell its nice enough for a super boost proc.
Thanks man I really appreciate that
You are helping me get excited for wotlk. I will likely never see any of these drop, but it sure makes for a good expansion to have so many game changing items available.
I am pretty certain, that the shards for valanyr drop off every boss in ulduar, even normal mode
Aren’t they higher rate/guaranteed when doing hard mode?
For naxx and ulduar heroic Mode just means 25 man. No idea why he didn't just say 25 man. But when you want to go naxx or ulduar you use heroic for 25 man and normal for 10 man
@@dulkansilberaxt hard mode is not equal to heroic mode.
Hard mode in Ulduar - specific way of beating boss encounter, that is significantly harder than usually. It is available for almost every boss there (except for Kologarn and Algalon), both in 10 and 25 man variants.
@@Sornemus The point is, that toyhouze said heroic mode in the video, not hard mode and the commenter I replied to assumed heroic mode means hard mode.
And you are incorrect, Val'anyr fragments only drop in 25-man.
My first time in ICC, was 25 man, I was ret pallie, Byrntroll dropped and I won the roll. Kept that till I eventually finished the legendary weapon quest and equipped that beast. As much as I loved Shadowmourne, the trolling I got for having Bryntroll equipped with some pretty average dungeon blues early on was so worth it, gave me the warm and fuzzies.
The shards for Val’anyr have a very low chance to drop from every 25 mode boss, both in Normal and Hardmode. Certain hardmode bosses have a slightly higher chance to drop a shard. The only boss that has a guaranteed drop is, of course, Yogg himself, in both N and H.
I got Val'anyr back in Wotlk, it was a grind for sure. Wondering if its worth it to do it again in classic...
Also you can equip the normal and hc versions of Solace trinket,
This made my hpally and the rsham in group felt so damn good
Imo the healing trinket from Blood Queen in ICC should also be mentioned, a trinket that gladiator/rank1 healers will be obtaining as quick as possible.
4:13 those stats are for the non heroic version, for heroic version it’s 700 instead of 600 and 1400 instead of 1200
Had the reg 25 versions of the first 2 on the list when Wrath was current. Grimtroll bone axe and the deathbringers will, both were really good and got me in the top 30 warriors on the server back in the day. I could pound the hell out of the bosses, would take agro if the tank wasn't good, I'd deal too much damage when I used all cooldowns. I had the purfied sword from the ICC dungeons that drops for a long quest chain, Quel- delar I think its called and Brytroll for my 2 weapons for a time. Until I got another 264 2h weapon for fury.
Your videos are very informative, thank you heaps!
Glad you like them!
There is no heroic mod in ulduar, that didn’t come out till toc. Uld just had activated hard modes on some bosses.
You're right hardmode -- not heroic
Would the mace be bis for prat pallys in pvp?
Im probably not getting Shadowmourne, so dual-wielding Bryntroll is my goal.
That sounds so OP lol
not for PvE, that’s a pvp weapon or tank weapon
glorenzelg + cryptmaker
@@brandonkruse6412 that'd be nice, but Im setting the bar low and a first boss drop seems more manageable.
@@meta1152 I would go for the 2H Citadel Enforcer sword off the first boss as it has stats then aim for Cryptmaker off Blood Prince Council which isn’t too difficult to get to on normal. There’s always the battered hilt quest if you have enough gold
Dk tank wep
Also I forgot the 2 best weapons for my DK Frost/Unholy. Both one-hand, the two-hand build is brintroll/shadormourne LOL
Sounds epic
best frost weapons are Havoc from LK
best unholy weapons are Glorenzelg then SM
Best blood Weapon? Bryntroll?
@@brandoncastellano1858 gloren is tank bis for expertise and higher stats, second to that would prolly be Citadel Claymore from first boss if you need the hit rating otherwise yeah it’s good
other than gloren it doesn’t really matter your weapon is more of a stat stick for tanking
remind me on my ret paladin i use deadbringer plus tiny abomination best trinkets i got during wrath and remeber one trinket from last patch drop in 5 man doungeon with armor pent what a great time.
Bryntroll should have only worked on melee white hits promoting haste. I also think it should be effected by bonus to healing received.
I think this is the best way to have a leeching effect in wow. The shadowlands leech stat is just boring. You can control how much of it you get.
This is one of my favorite items in the game. I wish they made these more often after wrath.
Anyone know the most popular/close to blizz like wrath server? Just want to play for a bit before classic wrath drops
Ulduar doesn't have heroic mode. Ulduar is only 10 or 25 man. Some bosses have hard modes. Shards to start quest for Valanyr only drop in 25man. You can get 3-8 shards per run
Can you help me guys i watch one clip and I cant find it now. val'anyr and I think is a shield lvl 60 but don't hold me on a word. Item says it give absorb on natural healing and its lover lvl than wotlk and people use to use it with val'anyr on holy paladin to meta heal in WRATH can you guys please help me if you know the name of item or shield. Thanks . Great video btw
In original WotLK could equip two solaces, one 25 and one 10 man. I had both on my druid and could spam anything I wanted the whole fight and never have to look at my mana, it was sick. Most of time had enough haste to roll lifebloom on all the tanks and spot heal in between. Topped apm and healing nearly every fight.
I remember a mage friend played 2s with disc and had double solace. It was stupidly good
There is no 10 man solace. It only drops in 25 man. But you can equip the heroic and non heroic version at the same time. And yea, it's op tho
Been awhile😝. It was double 25 man, had both though.
What class does shadowmorune go to though? Like who benefits off it most
Only Warrs, Palas and DKs can equip it. Its BiS for them anyway.
STS is by far the strongest physical trinket in the game. Save your RMT gold for it.
Is there a difference between heroic and regular deathbringers will?? @toyhouse
Yeah there is. Heroic is better. It's +700 instead of 600 and more armor penetration
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I don’t think sm is that hard to get, you get the pieces off bosses which could be normal and heroic. All you need to do is run icc a lot and get the stuff prio’d to you and you’ll eventually have it
The most op drop was the bugged grey weapon that dropped in dragonblight
Glowing Twilight Scale in combination with PW:S Glyph and haste cap should be pretty insane 😀 - Too bad it's in the end of the expansion
Doesnt DBW hc give 700 stats? I think the 600 is from the normal trink.
bruh titans grip brynn was absolutely busted
you will see ppl disband guild for deathbringer's will
DBW is 600 strength OR it's other proc, not all 3
Btw you showed DBW hc which gives 700 str, crit, haste, not 600,that's the nm one
should i get an alt in wrath or just play 1 character
i only played my dk back then and achieved everything you could achieve and still didn't run out of things to do. also doing dailies on alts is a pain in the a^^
@@mn-cb1ry I'm kinda in between Mage and Resto druid tbh
I too think about this. I'm going to inevitably make an alt, but sticking with one character until I complete all of phase 1 content.
It's insanely easy to have an alt compared to tbc classic. Id recommend unless ur super time poor.
Armor pen isnt the best stat until the last raid of the expansion
Resto druid trauma
Anyone else think Toyhouze is Ted Cruz son?
What is funny, Shaman could use 2h axes and Blizzard hated 2h shaman so much, they left them off the BiS Shadowmorun.
You could use a macro that when you use storm strike, you swap to SM for it to double hit, then switch back to DW via macro for damage. Imagine if it gave agility to the shaman instead, this would of made Enhancement even more powerful for either AD or Spellenhance.
Shards dropn only on 25 mode both hard and normal mode
Would Bryntroll be Blood DK prio? Or could it.
Definitely! It's really good for Blood DK!
Nothing for caster ?
Twilight scale :)
ulduar has no heroic mode :)
nice vid ! can we get RDF plz wow ... :D
No likes for the alliance
Huge blunder to not include the objective #1 item--at least for pvp--Bauble. More than half the mp5 of Solace, and game changing essentially Desperate Prayer useable on an ally or self.
On all Pservers, everyone equipped it. Healers are human with Solace/Bauble, and DPS, especially double DPS like rogue mage are BOTH using Bauble, even the rogue.
Complete meta changer and people, even melee, will be blowing thousands of $ worth of RMT gold in gdkps for it.
If we're PvE focused, Solace really should be #1, even beyond Shadowmourne. It is completely changes how the game is played, both for the healers and even caster dps, and thus for the rest of the raid.
Honestly, how powerful Bauble and Solace are are making me not want to play Wrath because, as a disc priest pvper, I don't want to feel obligated to buy $2k USD of gold to get the items to not be raging at the disadvantage in arena and inability to R1 title without them. Just that power they hold makes them by far #1 and #2.
Ban gdkps.
pog!
;)
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Grats