I was surprised it took until David to hit Vital Signs, because that was my first thought when I saw the title of this episode. To Paul C's point though, I think it's a great final track for Moving Pictures exactly because it was a "free preview" of Signals. There isn't another place in the discography where you get such a clear listen forward to the next album. I love love love Mystic Rhythms as a pairing with High Water. Neil wrote several of those thematic pairs of songs. And the occasional trio: Subdivisions/Middletown Dreams/Everyday Glory are a 3-act play about the same person in my head canon. I was listening to the two solo albums again recently and to me, sound-wise, Victor kind of fits with Vapor Trails and My Favorite Headache kind of fits with Snakes and Arrows. Or, restated, Vapor Trails's sound features Alex, S&A's sound features Geddy, and Clockwork Angels' sound heavily features all 3 of them. Which is appropriate for their final album. I'm on team "if Ged and Alex make another record, it should NOT be a Rush record", unless they want to make the sequel to Here Again that haunts my imagination. In the spirit of Paul S's cheat, I'd love to hear Superconductor on Counterparts. The riff-driven nature of the song already makes it a natural fit for that record, and you could tweak the lyrics to emphasize the duality of the audience's expectations vs. what the Superconductor is doing. And for a double cheat, move Virtuality backwards to Counterparts and do some heavier tweaking of the lyrics. For me, that's Alex's best riff of the 90s but it doesn't hit as hard as it should on T4E.
I HAVE to hear your takes on next week’s episode (#244)- a *lot* of what you brought up is oddly prophetic… 😇 Prepare your head canon for some more… And you know I’ll never say no to tinkering with songs on Presto ⬆️ You’ve seen my feelings when they’re played live lol!
Such a fun mental exercise! For me, the Counterparts -> T4E track is Nobody's Hero, the only acoustic number on CP would fit just fine on a record that was largely written acoustically. The super-underrated "Lessons" on 2112 would be gangbusters on AFTK, with its soft-hard dynamics similar to the title track. Love Paul's Ghost of a Chance -> CP idea, and also War Paint -> CP and also I'm now just wanting so many late-80s/early-90s songs to have been produced, engineered & mixed by Collins, Shirley, and Wallace... *drool* GREAT EPISODE Y'ALL!!
good episode. My thoughts (for what its worth) stretch the question a little, i recon, that part 3 of Necromancer RETURN OF THE PRINCE off Caress of Steel, could be slotted into 2112 between Discovery and Presentation - with different lyrics (mostly because of the chord structure and pleasantness of it) of course and as i feel it never quite fitted on the end of the Necromancer
I agree about the third part (The Prince), I hear it as radically different too. Great placement idea! In our “Tour of the Deep Tracks” episode a few weeks ago, I put it in a medley with other songs as well, for the same reason. Good idea!
28:20 oh dang that's what I noticed on IG earlier today! Reason may be that Rush used to do one "spontaneous" track towards the end of a session, a song thrown together without much prep, e.g. Vital Signs, Different Strings, High Water, Countdown, Cinderella Man, Everyday Glory, Malignant Narcissism (uh is there a definitive list of these somewhere?)... My hunch is these tunes were more future-oriented, as they'd just wrapped up a year - (or two) long touring/writing/touring/recording cycle, so a quickly-written song would be closer to the modern zeitgeist. They must have felt that to put these tracks at the end of the albums, three guys young enough to remember the future... 🔥🔥
@Paul_Simon No but I have 3 granddaughters 2 learning guitar and 1 drums and they love watching RUSH videos with Gma and want to have a girl rocker group lol
You guys are great to listen to. A lot of fun and you give me great memories
I was surprised it took until David to hit Vital Signs, because that was my first thought when I saw the title of this episode. To Paul C's point though, I think it's a great final track for Moving Pictures exactly because it was a "free preview" of Signals. There isn't another place in the discography where you get such a clear listen forward to the next album.
I love love love Mystic Rhythms as a pairing with High Water. Neil wrote several of those thematic pairs of songs. And the occasional trio: Subdivisions/Middletown Dreams/Everyday Glory are a 3-act play about the same person in my head canon.
I was listening to the two solo albums again recently and to me, sound-wise, Victor kind of fits with Vapor Trails and My Favorite Headache kind of fits with Snakes and Arrows. Or, restated, Vapor Trails's sound features Alex, S&A's sound features Geddy, and Clockwork Angels' sound heavily features all 3 of them. Which is appropriate for their final album. I'm on team "if Ged and Alex make another record, it should NOT be a Rush record", unless they want to make the sequel to Here Again that haunts my imagination.
In the spirit of Paul S's cheat, I'd love to hear Superconductor on Counterparts. The riff-driven nature of the song already makes it a natural fit for that record, and you could tweak the lyrics to emphasize the duality of the audience's expectations vs. what the Superconductor is doing. And for a double cheat, move Virtuality backwards to Counterparts and do some heavier tweaking of the lyrics. For me, that's Alex's best riff of the 90s but it doesn't hit as hard as it should on T4E.
I HAVE to hear your takes on next week’s episode (#244)- a *lot* of what you brought up is oddly prophetic… 😇 Prepare your head canon for some more…
And you know I’ll never say no to tinkering with songs on Presto ⬆️ You’ve seen my feelings when they’re played live lol!
Such a fun mental exercise! For me, the Counterparts -> T4E track is Nobody's Hero, the only acoustic number on CP would fit just fine on a record that was largely written acoustically. The super-underrated "Lessons" on 2112 would be gangbusters on AFTK, with its soft-hard dynamics similar to the title track. Love Paul's Ghost of a Chance -> CP idea, and also War Paint -> CP and also I'm now just wanting so many late-80s/early-90s songs to have been produced, engineered & mixed by Collins, Shirley, and Wallace... *drool* GREAT EPISODE Y'ALL!!
good episode. My thoughts (for what its worth) stretch the question a little, i recon, that part 3 of Necromancer RETURN OF THE PRINCE off Caress of Steel, could be slotted into 2112 between Discovery and Presentation - with different lyrics (mostly because of the chord structure and pleasantness of it) of course and as i feel it never quite fitted on the end of the Necromancer
I agree about the third part (The Prince), I hear it as radically different too. Great placement idea! In our “Tour of the Deep Tracks” episode a few weeks ago, I put it in a medley with other songs as well, for the same reason. Good idea!
28:20 oh dang that's what I noticed on IG earlier today! Reason may be that Rush used to do one "spontaneous" track towards the end of a session, a song thrown together without much prep, e.g. Vital Signs, Different Strings, High Water, Countdown, Cinderella Man, Everyday Glory, Malignant Narcissism (uh is there a definitive list of these somewhere?)... My hunch is these tunes were more future-oriented, as they'd just wrapped up a year - (or two) long touring/writing/touring/recording cycle, so a quickly-written song would be closer to the modern zeitgeist. They must have felt that to put these tracks at the end of the albums, three guys young enough to remember the future... 🔥🔥
Would loved to see Natural Science on Moving Pictures and Witch Hunt and Vital Signs moved to Signals
I'm curious what you all think about the new Blah Blah Wah Pedal?
Think we should get a review going? I know at least one of our admins has it. Have you tried it yet?
@Paul_Simon No but I have 3 granddaughters 2 learning guitar and 1 drums and they love watching RUSH videos with Gma and want to have a girl rocker group lol
@@kimbarry4674 Excellent! Raising them right!!
@@Paul_Simon Thanks lol❤️🇨🇦
@Paul_Simon nope but my granddaughters are thrilled I'm thinking Christmas will be expensive this year🤣❤️🇨🇦
Anything could have been moved to Snakes Arrows since I would have liked to see that album erased.
Really setting a high bar for us to convince you through Roundtables to dig deep on those, aren't ya, Tony? 😁 #ChallengeAccepted