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Sorry to hear that Bob mate. I edit with earphones on you see so just go off that and then watch it back on the TV to see if it's ok. Hope it didn't affect your viewing of the video too much, Ant
Nowt worse than Toss pots like that ant mate!! Ruin everything everywhere they go!! A genuinely think there should be a aptitude test for people to go in the countryside 🤣 imagine how quiet it would be bliss lad
The irony is it is because of people making UA-cam videos about how and where to camp Raven crag isn't somewhere you should be advertising as a place you can "wildcamp"
I have no issue with wild camping, but the amount of people advertising it and making it accessible for the masses is ruining it for everyone else. Also, Raven Crag isn't really somewhere we should be pitching up; just look at the state of the place. A big part of wild camping for me is going to these locations, looking at maps, and finding places to camp. TikTok is full of people giving grid references and parking locations to uneducated people who turn up, destroy the land, and leave a mess. Sorry to rant on your video btw 😊
So sorry your camp was spoilt by the thoughtlessness of others Ant. We're not wild campers (missus likes her creature comforts too much, even under canvas lol), but we do pick more basic sites, and always ask if we can have a quiet corner out of the way if possible. Probably like you, our camping trips are an escape from everyday life, and we just want time and space on our own. On a more positive note, the views were absolutely awesome, and we're go grateful for you sharing them with us..... Thank You
Hi Ivan, thank you pal. Yeah that's right, it's a way to release the stress from what's going on in the real world. Yeah just the same, nowadays on campsites there's notices all round saying quiet after this time, does n dont's which makes you feel at ease. With wild camping it's just unwritten rules and the hope that other campers are decent and have done their homework. Yes, the views were stunning in the morning which made me feel more chilled matey. Ahh cheers for the kind words, all the very best to you both!
Hi Harry mate, they were bigger than me haha! Seriously though I would always be straight with people, if there was an issue or I didn't agree with something I certainly would have a word, as long as you're not aggressive when making your point then it's all good eh! Thanks as always Harry
I remember getting annoyed when I was last there last November, such a beautiful spot but bloody campfires all over and a load of rubbish left as well, which I had to take back. I noticed you took the very steep route up, a route I never take especially after my friend broke her ankle coming down that way about a year ago. I would not fancy tripping over that guy line in the night if I needed a gypsy's, as it is a big drop over that edge. Shame about the visitors, shame about the night and that whole crag was set of fire a canny few years ago by idiots lighting fires and such a shame they are still about. It was great to see you got some great views in the morning mind. Cheers Alan
Hi Alan, yeah they were all over mate, such a shame and really no need at all, none at all. The rubbish thankfully was at a minimum, not much at all thankfully. Oh boy did I Alan, it was OK really, I stopped a few times but made it up in no time. Yeah I always take the walking poles now pal, they really are a life saver. I know mate, I thought I had more room than that, thankfully I rarely need a wee once I'm in the tent so didn't come out after dark 😉. Yeah Andy just commented about the fore on the Crag a few years back, disgraceful isn't it, no need at all. Beautiful views come the morning yes mate, it was meant to be foggy so I was lucky! Big thanks Alan for sharing your thoughts pal
Raven Crag when I did the Wainwrights was one of my favourite fells, fabulous for not a lot of height, the only downside it’s too short a walk in, it saddens me deeply that Wild Camping is getting bad press for people not following Leave no trace. It’s also very disappointing not to get the solitude, it’s the main reason I don’t wild camp much in the Lakes as I don’t know if I will be alone, in the yorkshire dales I know that I’m 99% likely to have it to myself which is why I mainly go there. Real shame they didn’t do the right thing and give you some space. Better luck next time. Give you a sub, hope you can do likewise 👍
Hi Tito, yeah a beautiful area isn't it. Yeah pretty much straight up that way I did it, but didn't take long at all. That's it, people only see the negative press regarding wild camping not the good it brings. The majority of us do what's right and going back to the young lads, they did leave no trace because they must have packed up in the night and left because I was up at 5.30am and there wasn't a sign of them. I need to hit the Yorkshire Dales, lots to see around there. Thanks very much for your thoughts and support mate.
I really feel for you, and it's a fine example of what respectful wild campers are coming across more often. What may seem trivial to some, your whole experience was ruined by inconsiderate people. Your video was shot at the notorious hotspot of Raven Crag, which a few years ago was in flames due to irresponsible campers.
Your right Richard, COVID brought a lot of amateur campers out of the woodwork, some learned the proper way, others just went out to get drunk and party. I hope they are few and far between now pal
I can’t understand the obsession with fires while camping. It makes everything stink of smoke and fills your gear with holes, and that’s before the big burnt holes on the ground.
I'm a lover of Bushcraft and survival. You never know when you might need a fire. I also enjoy a fire but I'm very, very careful on how I make it and break it down, where I have one and also when I have one. Thanks Joe for watching and for your thoughts matey 👍, Ant.
It's a difficult one because of course, they can camp where they like but at the same time, it's manners isn't it? Then to have them banging on for hours while trying to just relax is annoying as it's impossible to do so as all you can hear is them. Still, looked like a hell of a pitch you had there. Cheers
That's it mate, I don't own the area, this was never my point, my point was I wanted a peaceful chilled camp and I would have got it if they had looked for another pitch. Yeah my pitch was stunning, the views were something else pal. Big thanks for your thoughts and the watch matey, cheers, Ant 👍
We had a camp last week when the same thing happened. Three lads appeared near us so I went to have a chat. "Is it OK to camp here?" they said. Noisiest set of *****s ever! Banging and shouting all night. We were packed up before they appeared and it was so tempting to start shouting ourselves in revenge - but of course we didnt.
Really totally respect you and your channel but I could not hear the first minute or so of your vlog as the music was obliterating your speech. Finally worked out that I can see the words on screen if I press the correct button and then switch the sound off. Obviously am a newbie to this you tube stuff. Great vlog just shows that the words 'wild camping' can have many meanings. Really glad you had the moan get it off your chest then reboot fer't next adventure. 😉Steve
Hi Stephen, thank you pal and sorry about that. I edit with headphones on you see, and then watch it back on the TV. I'll bare it in mind on the next edit buddy. I'm glad you still managed to enjoy the film though mate and big thanks again for your comment Stephen 👍
Proper good video mate despite your visitors. I was out the other night over Darwen Tower moors, one tent was already there somewhere I had thought about, I just walked a further 20 mins over a crest and tucked myself away. Personally I don’t want to look or see another tent or hear anyone, but I also think about OTHER people who aren’t camping do they want to see a mass of tents together? No! Where are you from Ant? I’m also an Ant 🤣 cheers mate
@@AntSurviveTheNightahhh just down road pal I live in Blackburn,born n bred, but just trying explore what’s on my doorstep for little bit this year with some lakes and Peak District stuff thrown in. Might see you up n about one day, I’m looking at Pendle hill camping next weekend
@blank-dr2kx ahh good stuff matey. Yeah there's loads on our doorstep isn't there. I've venture and completed a few camps in the Lakes but I'm just learning the Peaks which is fun! Come say hi if you see me pal
Shame your camp was spoiled mate, cracking views the next morning though hopefully that makes up for it. My go to comment for “are we alright here or I’m not too close am I?” Is park where you like but fair warning I snore like a bear with a blocked nose…😂
Haha Martin, the funny thing is I do snore like a bear, there many a time the wife is downstairs when I wake in the morning due to that lol. Maybe that's why the packed up in the night and went 😆. Yeah stunning views weren't they pal. Big thanks for the watch Martin
Hi Bourne, thanks pal. I thought so also mate, why should we have to put up with stuff like this when there's no need, just go find a pitch further away and everyone is happy eh! Thanks mate, the view were stunning in the morning. Big thanks for watching and commenting 👍, Ant
@@AntSurviveTheNight It beggars belief that they pitched right next to you but,,, I suppose it’s like parking in the furthest away bay from the supermarket door, and the car park is nearly empty. You come back and some pillock has parked next to you. Some folks just can’t be on their own 😁 Have a blimmin good weekend 😉👍🏼
Yeah it may well be a comfort thing mate but they were two grown lads. I truly believe they were new to camping and just wanted the best views but camping in wet mud without the correct warm gear and pitching right next to someone else wouldn't do it for me mate
Hello mate, thanks very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it. The wellies are just from Aldi Solway. I use budget gear mainly and these are a part of the main cheap items I use. Thanks again matey, Ant 👍
I don't mind if people camp near me.. unless I can hear them snoring and other bodily functions... I never ever camp near others. Like Andy said "I have walked extra miles if someone was camped in my planned spot"... Take care out there.
If I was coming up past you accompanied I'd just pass you by as I hate noise from others I'm not with as well.But if I was alone I'd probably say " Hi u ok ? " and , giving you the choice I'd say " Can I pitch here or would rather be alone ? " and ask first before I pulled so much as a peg out . If you say no , then I'd go further up if u say yes ok then my names Tom , here's a beer while I'm pitching up . There's nothing to say they can't do ( and we all shouldn't be doing it anyway if it comes to that as it's illegal ) but a bit common sense respect for someone who's already there , and defo no fires up there especially . Tom , Oldham
All makes perfect sense Tom, I'd have said fine no problem if your handing out beers haha! Although having said that, I only took one up and I was wary about drinking that as its a long old drop off the edge haha. Agreed but as we are saying it's the unwritten rules we could all do with stick to but as I say, I'm sure they were newbies. Thanks again matey.
No problem Ant..I'll have one handy if I'm passing and ya there before me ! Other than that , breakfast at Nicola's cafe up on Rishworth Moor next to M62 where't transmitter is👍
First time subscriber here. Must say I really enjoyed your camerawork. I wouldn't have been quite so polite and would have taken the Mr. Rottweiler approach (do you remember Brian Glover in Bottom?). "Why don't you two *&^^ off or you'll up down bottom of crags".
Morning David, thank you sir for the sub, I really appreciate it and I do hope you enjoy the back catalogue. Yeah, I'm not one to cause a ruckus. They asked me if I was ok with them camping there I said I wanted to be on my own, they didn't take the hint, nothing I could do matey. Never mind, plenty more camps to be had eh! Thanks again David, all the best, Ant 👍
Don’t get it my self mate, if you tipped up and saw a tent there, you wouldn’t even put your bag down, you carry on and find your own quiet space, all the hills and woodland in the Lake District and they plonk their gear near you. Disrespectful to you and the other guys disrespectful to the surroundings, bet if you’d checked they’d of not squared the fire away. Gutted for ya matey
Hey Steven, all true matey, all true. They was plenty a space back behind the Crag platform, the forest was beautiful and that's where I would have headed if I'd have got there late. There were a lot of scorched fire pits around there. I'd have at least hoped that they might have had the fire in a firebox or a trough but who knows. Thanks Steven for the comment dude 👍
Quite possibly true that mate but to camp in wet cold mud, if that was me and even if I had my heart set on a spot, if it wasn't suitable for pitching I wouldn't pitch. Thanks matey for your watch and also your thoughts, cheers, Ant 👍
@@AntSurviveTheNight nice of you not to object to that it wasn’t a national comment despite my name 😃👍 Had a similar but less extreme near Ben More. Due lack of self control AC/DC was deployed at full bung in departure. My bad.
hey up ya moanin bugger lol. I can see your point mate. I once camped up near a llyn with my grandson Jack, and had it all to ourselves in the middle of nowwhere ( so we thought ) and over the next few hours had steams of people passing us ( this was in the middle of winter, and dark) they where either looking for a pitch or trying to get to a bothy ( which was the wrong way to get to it anyroad) one or our `visitor's` dogs tried pinching our food 😱. cheeky bugger !! Fires !! no need for one . I can see someone's had a fire behind where you where venting your frustrations.. 🙁We camped on the edge of deerstones ( pendle hill )a while ago . that was a fair drop indeed. now for the good news.......... Im out with the mighty bobcat tomorrow. ( sunday ) first time aswell. Lets see how it goes 😀. All the best mate. Keep smiling !!
Haha hi Billy! Great news about the camp out tonight pal! Let me know what you thought of it will ya mate. I don't mind if they are passing you by it's the pitching up right next door when there's a problem. Oh gosh! I couldntxhavexa dog nicking my food, you know how much I love my food 😆. Thanks matey as always for popping on and commenting. Have a top night tonight buddy.
Best spots meaning views? As the spot they pitched in as full of cold wet mud. I'd give the views up for a dry floor 🤔 cheers Trip, thanks for watching and your thoughts Ant 👍
Thats a nightmare. My James was up.there a month or so back n said the amount of rubbish that had been left about n multiple fire scars was ridiculous 😕. Such a beautiful place too. A victim of its own accessibility and popularity 😕. Sad eh.
It's only got a certain amount of pitches to be honest VW but there were pitches to choose from instead of pitching with me. Thanks mate and I hope you enjoyed it. I appreciate your thoughts 🙏, Ant.
I’m trying to keep it polite. Absolutely disgusting behaviour by them. Fires ffs. A couple of years ago the whole cliff side and the area where you pitch caught fire. 🔥 destroyed it. Now it’s grown back. Ooh let’s have a fire. I wouldn’t have been so polite I’m afraid. The idiots who had a fire when I was there were locals. It’s not on. I’ve literally walked a further mile because someone was pitched where I had planned. It’ll not be long before they start really clamping down over there. I hope your “neighbors”see this and have the balls to apologise on here. But they won’t. Utter disgrace. Other than that. Nice video mate. Those views. 😮😮 👍 Atb.
Haha! You did keep it clean Andy! Very well done and hats off to you haha! Seriously though its right in what you say. I know first hand what a fire can do to a moorland. The Pennine's went up and burned for months a few years back, they could not stop it and that was through an ass with a BBQ. There's a time and a place for fires, we know this and so should anyone who as that idea in their head to start one. I would do the same mate, there is no way I would be anywhere near anybody on a camp. As I've said on other comments, as you know there are more than one spit to pitch up on the Crag itself but there's a whole forest just behind that is gorgeous. Madness, utter Madness to use your saying. It's very true, we are lucky to have a place like the Lake District that the locals turn a blind eye on wild campers. Stuff like this could change that. Thank mate and big thanks for your feedback on the subject 👍
Yeah you can tell that the place had caught fire just by the state of the twigs (trees). It will take many years for it to get back to it's aforementioned beauty. But I doubt it will do because toss potts will keep harming the trees for kindling. Boils my p155 it really does.
@pshearduk hi mate, yeah there was a downed tree completely burnt out, I did some filming on it. Folks need to realise that live trees don't burn! Thanks mate for sharing your thoughts, cheers, Ant.
@@AntSurviveTheNight mate, I despair sometimes. I really have no idea what goes through these idiots heads. You know what, I think it takes folks to be there constantly on weekends en masse to just be there and say NO.
@@pshearduk I always have a fire and there is nothing wrong with it as long as you are responsible. As for you calling anyone who has a fire an Idiot, you need to grow up. Fire is one of the most basic needs since time began. I would love some clown like you to try and tell me otherwise while I'm out camping.
Urggh what's wrong with people Ant? Etiquette or no etiquette, just some flipping common sense would do. 🙄 Hearing them on the video alone was winding me up a treat. I had an issue once when out in the Peaks, it was around 12am and a couple rocked up, walked right past my tent with their head torches on full beam, chatting away and then pitched up round the corner from me. They then proceeded to shout and laugh for the next 2-3 hours. 🤦 Anyway, if it's any consolation mate, I really enjoyed the video. 🤷
Oh no that sound downright horrible Tricky. It's hard because you don't know who your about to have a "conversation" with, what type of people they are, if there's a few, you know what I mean. Hope camps since have gone your way pal. Thank you mate, I appreciate that. Big thanks for sharing your thoughts 🙏
My mates and I were wild camping in the lake district 35 + years ago because we were very poor and wanted to save money on the campsite fees. Bumpy hilly fields with no amenities 50p to £1.50 pppn.They were the most memorable and exiting holidays I have had.But we just enjoyed them and didn't try to promote it as a thing to do.The paradox is that UA-camrs creating videos of this leisure pursuit have created the problem of too many sheeple doing this in too small of a space.Maybe avoid the easy to get to places and go a bit off piste to enjoy the peace and solitude that so many of us need
Hi Baggies, nothing wrong with that at all mate. I go out to get away from the stresses of my life. I camp, make videos and edit. That's my stress relief. I always try my best to do the right thing. I've got a goal of places I want to camp and make film at and this was one of them. I did what I could to minimise the amount of foot traffic that was going to be up there by going during the week and it worked, there were three ither groups of camps that came with space left over to pitch at that weren't anywhere near me. Big thanks for your thoughts and for watching the video. I appreciate it. Ant 👍
I wouldn't know Mik if I'm honest as I only started my outdoor journey 7 years ago but it does make sense mate. Yeah best to stay out of the busy spits I get it. I have a list of where I want to camp and unfortunately that was one haha
I’m met a young lad out in the dales on Fountains Fell. He was unsure about pitching up as he was new to the game. pointed him to the best spot (which I planned to pitch) and took myself a good 500m away. It’s all about respecting the space and each other’s space.
I think perhaps finding out someone’s experience is a tool that us experienced people should be looking at and offer the advice in a polite way if we are shitty about it then no one will learn to care
Omg to all those saying he doesn't own the outdoors, I don't recollect him ever saying that!! It's just common courtesy and manners not to pitch up right next to another wild camper. If there isn't room, you look elsewhere. If someone is at a pitch you had your eye on its tough luck, you keep looking.
Thanks Leeroy, your very correct there. Most of the negative comments are from people who have either not watched the video apart from the first 30 sec or they are Trolls neither concern me mate
This is a coincidence as I was about to start a series on camping etiquette and the byelaws on Dartmoor. I've no idea about the Lakes since camping isn't strictly 'legal' but common sense should come into practice when camping near someone else. I'd be pretty certain that campfires would be illegal though. The lighting of them in the hills and mountains, especially leaving scars, sheds a bad light on every camper regardless. This is what gets camping banned and is likely to keep camping banned. You have every right to be angry/peeved.
Hey Si, ahh cool yeah go ahead with it mate, we need yo certainly spread the word about as much as possible. No, we are fortunate that the locals turn a blind eye to it, the best part that is but this will certainly change if more people act like this. There were massive signs on the way up to the Crag stating no fires allowed. There were umpteen scorch marks and charred rocks where people have had fires and even a hefty cut down tree that at some point had been set fire to. Thanks Si for your input pal
Just not on,but sometimes things are sent to try you.oh came across a great simple hack.when opening your packaged camping meal,open it from bottom to top for easier access to all the meal.can’t think of why I’ve never thought of that before so simple love it.👍
Haha I know mate. I do have ear plugs but wouldn't wear them if there's strangers about. Out in the middle of nowhere I don't mind if the wind is up but not on a spot like this that's easy to get to. Thanks matey for the watch and comments 👍
You must've been annoyed, no tales from the tent! 😅 To me if there's limited space and it's not due to bad weather etc then it's well off you pop mate! And definitely turning up late is a case of snooze you lose! Should have said to them, since being released from prison my angers not as bad as it used to be, but I still carry my axe just in case...
Haha! I know right! I just felt uncomfortable, I couldn't speak so stuff like that go out the window mate. Yeah that's the thing there was other pitches and a full forest at the back of the Crag. I wouldn't pick a fight but I'd certainly say like I did about wanting peace and quiet. Haha, I'll remember not to pick a fight with you then Phil lol. Thanks buddy for the watch and your views on this subject 👍
forgive me, but i thought the etiquette of wild camping included the following advice - don’t camp in places where there are specific signs up asking you not to. pitch up at dusk or after dark break camp at dawn or very soon after you can’t just follow bits of the accepted etiquette and not all.
All that was followed by one. No signs to say no camping (there was for no fires) I pitched at 4.30pm, nobody was around for the hour I waited before pitching and the weather was bad . I was up at 5.30am and was away by 7am.
Wild camping at a spot where it's fine to camp (like in Scotland) doesn't require getting there late and leaving early. That's only needed when you're trying to camp undetected.
@@robinferguson8911that’s the point though. it’s not fine to camp there. it’s not scotland. and there are signs at the bottom of the hill asking people not to camp there.
@@shortstop47 Even the National Trust website says wild camping is tolerated as long as it's higher than the highest fell wall (approx over 400 meters). If the National Trust says it's OK, then I will stick with that advice they state on their website, as copy pasted below If you do decide wild camping is for you... Stay out of sight and for only one night A wild camp pitch must be above the highest fell wall (approximately 400m or 1200 feet high) and shouldn't be noticed by anybody else. This means staying away from any buildings or other wild campers. Don't camp next to streams or springs to avoid contaminating the water. Arrive late in the day (dusk) and move on at dawn.
Etiquette is pitch late leave early? You pitched before half four! And say it was still light at 2100! Etiquette is no fires. Woodland or not. First come first served isn't the way forward. Unfortunately we live on a very crowded island. Lot of snobbery in the comments and picking and choosing of rules you choose to follow.
I've never heard of the etiquette of no fires apart from on FB pages that state that I enjoy a fire in the right situation. If nobody is about and the weather is bad, I'll certainly pitch up, and I left early. If you don't liver on this "very crowded island," you wouldn't actually know the areas we have. You talk about snobbery, I'm 💯 sure the people who have come out with silly comments on here haven't actually watched the full video and certainly haven't watched any of my other videos in my back catalogue
Its not exactly wild camping when your in front of a viewing platform!! Go find a desolate place mate and stop being so entitled. Over here in Oz we go find our spot and have a fire and do what we want. And I'm an ex Pat from UK. Get off the track dude 🤣
Thank you Toby, I never said it was pal, all i wanted was my own space, not to have two lads sat on my knee for the night when there was no need. As I've said, all views are welcome. This video was made to help new wild campers learn about it before stepping out the door. I hope they read each comment and make up their own minds. Thanks for watching and thanks for your thoughts, Ant 👍and mutual respect for all eh!
Thats ridiculous Ant. This is the reason i never go to popular spots, especially easily accessible one and on a weekend. Shame it ruined it for you and well done for dealing with it 👍
Yeah not the best camp Benny mate. I truly thought it would have been quiet due to it being a Wednesday. I was prepared to camp in the forest behind the Crag if there were others already there, it wouldn't have bothered me too much at all. Thanks buddy for you view on it 👍
The problem is many of the cretins who went camping during Covid because Benidorm and Wetherspoons was off the cards carried on doing it. Sometimes better to nip it in the bud before they pitch up, ask them if they’re looking for a pitch, then kindly direct them far far away.
There was certainly an influx of people when covid hit. I had a beautiful spot where I used to Bushcraft and camp. Its was so well hidden but unfortunately it got smashed up when the found it. Big thanks Paul for watching mate and commenting 👍
Nightmare Ant. I’m sure they could have pitched elsewhere and as for the fire there is no need for that especially if it’s not a cold night. Positive side, great views in the morning and the bobcat standing strong 💪.
Yeah wasn't the best camping experience Geoff haha. Na, definitely a time and place for fires for sure. No, definitely wasn't cold enough for a fire. Yeah stunning views in the morning for sure buddy. The Bobcat is my go-to tent with no doubts. Thanks matey.
Hi Ant, you drew me in with that title and I have watched you before mate. Interesting yes camping etiquette. We are getting older🤣 we’ve probably forgotten what being a young lad is like 😊. I too would not have been happy and I don’t agree with fires in those locations. I usually camp in the Peak District and I went by Alpert castles and there were 10 tents mostly young compared to me and for me I’m not going to camp there as it becomes camp site and I don’t like campsites but I do use them when necessary. I camped about a mile on from there in a location most don’t use. You definitely have to careful about your spot in the Peaks these days to feel that solitude. Anyway Ant I loved your chat and great video. ATB 🏕️👍
Hi Dave, good stuff mate. I don't do click bait videos, I express within a title what's going on in the video and this one was very important for me to get people to watch this video. I'm sure they were top lads but my point was that if you're heading out for the first time, just do your research before heading out the door. I spent months preparing for my first wild camp which you can watch on the channel matey. I need to head to the peaks mate, do some exploration but first I'll again do my research on location ls before heading out. Yeah I would have been nowhere near 10 tents either matey haha. Thanks so much for your thoughts on this Dave, cheers pal 👍
It’s not wild camping is it really? Not like the old definition? Above the tree line. It’s fly camping. And with fly camping you run the risk of anyone coming to join you these days. Really well put together though pal. And fingers crossed for a better camp next time. All the best
If you have to dig a hope to have a poo it's wild camping in my book. But seriously, it's each to their own, i class wild camping when your out there and looking for a pitch to camp for the night a pitch that isn't a campsite. Thank you though Paul for your time in commenting and your time watching my video. These comments are all there for people to see who are maybe just starting out. Cheers, Ant
You cannot promote wild camping and then complain when others do the same. Just because you went there for peace doesn't mean that others have to go there for peace.
Hi RMC, as I've said from the start. This is never about complaining about others camping, it was about just having that consideration when arriving at a camp spot. People can do what they like as long as they respect the outdoors and the people around them. I have no issues of making noise, but if you choose to do that, then make sure you aren't anywhere near other people. Thanks for watching and for your thoughts RMC, Ant 👍
And this is the reason I rarely camp in the lakes these days Ant , too many eejits for my liking . I like quiet and miserable on my own lol . Turned out at stunning morning tho 📷⛺️👍
Hi Dave, it's a real shame though isn't it pal, lovely up there and some great films you've made up the too man. You ain't miserable mate, you just like your own space as do we all. Thanks for commenting pal 👍
Probably find that you are on the water authorities land, therefore on drinking water catchment area. You have no legal rights to camp at that location anyway. The water authorities are now proactive at removing campers from this area currently. One erroneous decision is bad enough, so little reason to complain about others joining you is a little bit rich. I'm sure you leave no trace, and I'm quite sure many will shout me down for my input, but quite frankly the County doesn't need any more illegal (wild) camping on already contentious ground. Yes I wild camp, but high up, arrive late leave early. And yes I am local.
We wild camp alone for the solitude. You have every right to complain. People are loosing their sense of respect for one another. Its sad. Thanks for your efforts to bring us some beauty. God knows we need it!
Hi Antonia, that's it! I for one get away due to stresses in my life, I way to recharge but maybe its my fault I went to a tiny and well visited place eh! I'm glad you still enjoyed it though, thank you. 😊
Great video and I couldn't agree more but I think all you guys doing the videos and putting on you tube are victims of your own success, the clout heads try to copy 👍
Hi Ant , I'd be giving you a "Hi ok ?" and I'd be asking you first " Can I pitch here or du want to be on your own ? " before I even pulled so much as a peg out..but i'd be on my own anyway if I was asking , if I was accompanied , I'd pass you by automatically as I hate noise from others as well if I'm alone Tom, Oldham
Perfect Tom, that way I could have pointed them in the direction of other suitable spots mate, you can't do that after they had pitched up, hopeless eh! Thanks for your comment/thoughts pal 👍
Unfortunately you cannot teach manners or etiquette to Dumb and Dumber! Now and then Dumb and Dumber appear to all of us Wild Campers who have mutual respect for each other! They are a growing breed, that unfortunately are not going extinct some time soon!
Hello Novice, welcome pal. Personally I prefer not to get into a confrontation. I did tell them when asked but I'm not into arguing on a Crag ledge lol 😆. I truly didn't know they were pitching up as I thought they were sat behind my tent after coming from the other side of the Crag. They were arguing so I left them to it and turned on the radio. If I'd have come out when they were starting to pitch I'd have said something. Thanks mate for popping on and cheers for your thoughts, Ant 👍
What a beautiful place Such a shame you had it spoiled by noisy intruders . Thank you for posting Ant it's a pleasure watching your adventures I could never do that climb . looking forward to the next Adventure .
Hello Tarmac mate, I hope you're well pal. Thanks mate. It was a tough straight up climb but quite fast really, I just had to catch my breath about 10 times lol. I'm chuffed you enjoy the content dude, means a lot Tarmac
15:07 Absolutely. I hate that so much. Drives me crazy. I wonder if they picked up their trash as well. Thanks for another great video, Ant. Looks like an incredible hike. The views are amazing, breathtaking. Still too cold here for wild camping here haha 😂
Hi Rick how's it going pal, good to see you on. How was that amazing eclipse yesterday pal? To be fair the place looked tidy, I've heard bad things about the litter up there but it was good when I was there last Wednesday. Thank you pal I always appreciate your comments as you know. It was a short hike but straight up it felt haha! Yeah once it cleared the views were amazing up there dude. Ahh go get um Rick! Get a 4 season tent and bag and hit the camp sites dude! I need to be over there eith you for a couple of weeks, get out and adventure. I'm determined to visit you guys haha
I like fires. If I had the money I'd go live somewhere in bumfk nowhere, and have a proper fireplace. No modern utility or invention beats a fire. But from what I read, there are other issues with that there, like damage and possible danger, and even signs and such. So, while I understand the allure of having a fire, I wouldn't have done it and stuck to the rules. At least if I had other ways, like an Esbit stove, a campingaz and/or an FRH or whatever. As for there being people there. Well, that sucks a bit for you, I suppose. Not being able to do what you wanted to. And I understand being miffed. But that's how it is. Other people have other things they want to do, and a little bit of consideration goes both ways. Who's to say those lads wanted you there? Maybe they spent 2 years planning to come to that exact spot. You don't know either, do you? I think the only etiquette for wild camping is being respectful of your fellow campers if you see them, and of the nature you enjoy. No more than in life. Don't steal, don't kill, don't litter, don't commit indecent acts, don't start forest fires, etc. etc. Anything else will just have to be discussed between the parties involved. If you really wanted to be alone so badly, you could've gone to them and tried to make a deal or something. Or... Even better. Joined them, have a beer and a laugh instead. ç'est la vie, my friend. Other people want the same thing you do. There's only one thing for it. Go do it twice again, to make up for this time, eh? ;p
Hi mate, yeah I too love having a fire and pretty much like you said there's a time and a place isn't there. Yeah they had other means to make hot drinks and cook. Up there can be very dangerous and to start a blaze would be devastating just like a few years back. That's all fair enough but this is my point about etiquette, it's not a rule, there's no rules but etiquette then I think if your respect the outdoors you would respect someone's privacy especially when there are other spots. Even if I'd have planned it for 2 yrs and got there and someone else was pitched up in that spot I certainly wouldn't go and pitch right next to them just because I'd planned it. I have rules within myself, I respect other campers I respect their right to privacy. I don't owned any of the places I visit but what I should be able to do is have a little me time. Granted, its a small place but I limited the foot traffic by going in the week. Its ticked off and I'm happy I stayed especially the morning views, which unfortunately the lads who camped with me didn't get to see as the had pitched up in wet cold mud and by the time I got up to watch the sunrise at 5.30am they had packed up and left the scene. I was asked the question was it alright to be at the side of me and I replied with what's in the video. It was raining when they came so I was in my tent and thought it was the lads from the other group behind my tent arguing. I certainly wasn't going out and speaking to them while that was going on, by the time I was out they had pitched up. Anyways, big thanks for watching and thank you very much for your thoughts, all the best, Ant 👍
Hey Steven, I appreciate the watch matey. Yeah thankfully it's the first time this has happened, probably why I moaned alot 😄. I thought about packing up and heading to the car but thinking about it I'd have headed to the forest behind mate as it was massive! Yeah, it was a place on my hit list to tick off but that's it, won't be going again, we'll not for a camp anyway. Cheers again for popping by Steven, Ant 👍
Nice one Ant I would of added a craic with ya n said is it ok I set up near ya but then I don’t cause grief n ruin the land if ya wasn’t happy me near ya I would of just moved on 👍👍👍
I'd have preferred that Craig, if they would have just spoken to me first I'd have said don't pitch there because it's full of mud. That I didn't let you guys know about. There were other areas such as that one where I was speaking about it all to the camera, I perfect little spot that. Cheers buddy 👍
I know there are no written rules per say, but even as a newby it’s understood if someone has the spot, you move on to somewhere out of sight at least. As much so you don’t hear each other snoring 😂
That's it Chris, it's more of a gentleman's agreement, an unwritten rule. I certainly wouldn't want to be near anyone, there were other pitches an the a forest full at the back of the Crag. Haha, I snore like mad too lol. Thanks Chris.
Etiquette - it ain’t for everyone. Tragedy of the commons: when everyone is in it for themselves where the resource is finite (an analogy of the world these days) - remember the ‘First Rule’ of wild camping - like mushroom foraging, it’s best not to share too much information about where the best places to pitch are….
Totally understand, its similar when im out in my van. Last time someone pulled up right next to me playing music which got louder through the day by midnight it was very loud, i heard him get out of the van and shouted out to stop being an inconsiderate C@@T, he turned it off and luckily left early the next day, I had no backup plan, i'm a wimp with a loud voice! 😂 i went away to get away from people and have some precious peace.
Hi Davy, yeah it's just inconsiderate to park up next to you, crank the music up and party all night, find a place on your own to do that. The thing that alot of the viewers of this video aren't getting is to just respect a fellow camper, person whoever and give them breathing space. Thanks man for your view and comment
Bang out of order those other two sets of campers Ant, fires and pitching too close are two of my pet hates. I was over Islay last year and got myself a perfect coastal park-up in my campervan, a 4x4 rocks up, parks right next to me (there were plenty of other places to park) and 4 lads got out and proceeded to pitch their tents in the front of my vehicle. WTF?? I went out and had a word and they were all like "Is there a problem? Where's the problem?" I ended up driving off and parking elsewhere. And for wild camping I always head somewhere I know no-one else goes to - and preferably midweek 😂 That area's been ruined with the fire pits, absolute bell-ends. atb DVS :)
Hello Donna, yeah thanks for that. That sounds horrible too what happened to you. Its not fair, you're there, they come a spoil it and I'm sure if you'd have stayed tge noise would have started. Sometimes best to just pack up. I was about to do that I can tell you. Yeah it's was Wednesday when I went, it's one I wanted to tick off the list you see. Won't be going back. All the very best Donna, thanks for watching and for your thoughts
Just come across your video, new here. I totally get why you go up to a quiet place for the solitude and peace. I’m a mental health professional and spend as much time as possible in the countryside. Unfortunately I see lots of people disrespecting the great outdoors, but I also meet lots of wonderful people who respect their surroundings. I hike the Brecon Beacons (Bannau Brycheiniog) and people treat Pen Y Fan like it’s a park. One of my pet hates is the dog bags being left on a trail. Anyway, your view was beautiful and I’m not sure about you but just to get that perspective for a moment is worth the hassle.
Hi Treforest, welcome buddy and thanks for clicking on the video. A hard profession you've picked I'm sure. Yeah it's a total reset isn't it when you go out and experience a wild camp. A lovely part of the world to call your back yard mate. Yeah the busier places can be hard work and the dog bags are my pet hate also. It's a place I wanted to tick off the list, I'm glad I've done it but won't be heading back in a hurry. Thanks for sharing your thoughts bud 👍
It's great to see folk getting out and enjoying the outdoors but I wouldn't be expecting solitude at a popular view point next to a path. These days if you want peace and quiet you need to get off the beaten track. A look at a map will give you loads of options for quality solitude. There used to be a few well known principles around wild camping etiquette like 'arrive late and leave early' and camping above the highest intake wall was generally accepted as good practice, but it seems like anywhere is fair game now. As for other folk camping next to you - well, it's like parking in the Lakes. Folk arrive and the car park is full but they haven't considered a Plan B so they just park anyway. It's a whole new world.
Bloody shame to have your night spoiled like that. Two distinct groups of people that go camping at these locations. Those for solitude & those for the sesh
Do you know what annoys me? People flying drones all over making uninformed egotistical videos on wild camping...I live on the road the woods hills mountains rivers streams sky its everyones..
Thank you Pete, as I've said, all views are welcome. This video was made to help new wild campers learn about it before stepping out the door. I hope they read each comment and make up their own minds. Thanks for watching, and thanks for your thoughts, Ant 👍
Personally I like my space so I go where others won’t go you went somewhere that people think that will work for me too I go places where people don’t want to go that extra mile or through that thick bit of woods want to be alone? Go where no one goes 🥰 ( I do it regularly no excuse we don’t own the land and we fight for it for it to be free) but etiquette none the less when you do share close pitches. Shame
Hi Sage, I'm normally the same but there's certain places I've got on a list that I want to tick off you see and this was one of them. I tried to minimise the hit of people up there by going in the week but hey, it could have been worse I suppose. Thank you for your comment, it makes sense 👍
really cool vid still ! -- If they are young lads why not explain to them and help them relocate. Sounds like you made it more awkward for yourself/them, yet with no benefit to you
Thanks Richard. Unfortunately they had pitched there tent by the time I came out to look as I thought it was the other campers from around the Crag and just thought they had come down to sit on the log and have a moan at each other. Plus, we shouldn't have to get involved, this is what I mean about Etiquette and doing your homework before heading out the door, you know what I mean matey. Should be up to us to go out and have a word ever though I did tell them I wanted a bit of peace and quiet. If that was me I'd have packed up and moved spots. Thanks pal for commenting
Lol I know right! Oh well! Unfortunately it's a given pal isn't it. Haha yeah it was a great spot after I'd calmed down that is. Yes, won't be going back there in a hurry pal. Thanks Leon.
How dare those guys come onto your private land and camp next to you! I could understand if they were camping in a public place where everyone has the right to.
It would anoy me if they where next to me but they also have the same rights as you to be there. I would of moved away from them. I camped near a Tarn and had campers around near me. It's not like I could tell them to move away from the Tarn because your in my view.
Hi Leon, yeah this is the thing, I've always said I have no rights but the point I'm making is about the unwritten rule, the etiquette if anything, the respect of other peoples right to have a little privacy especially when there are other pitches available. It's always been about that for me so that new people coming into wild camping have a bit of an idea when it comes to the outdoors. Big thanks for watch mate and thank you very much for your thoughts, Ant 👍
Eyup mate, Jonny here. I've always meant to write a comment to you but seem to to forget each time. I've watched load of your videos mate, started last year with when you went to caledonian canal with canoe. It helped me in a huge way to plan me own trip and you and your brilliant videos have inspired me to start me own channel. my first been the caledonian canal in 6 parts. I'd love it if you had a look. I'm dead new like n don't have the best camera, lights and drone equipment but have always enjoyed the outdoors so thought, why not give it a go. I fully understand your little rant and think you did very well NOT to swear haha I love wild camping and canoein. I'm from Yarm north Yorkshire myself but live in Bavaria Germany now and I'd love it you're ever in this neck of the woods that you drop me a line and we can do a hike in to the Alps together for a wild camp. In the mean time it would really be an honor to have a fella like yourself give my channel a subscribe and like on videos. hope you're well n keep em comin, love your work.
Hi Jonny, oh nice one mate. Yeah a fabulous adventure that was, we raised an absolute fortune for the Alzheimer's Society. It will always be my favourite trip of all time that for those special reasons. I wish you all the luck with your channel mate and yeah I'll come check it out. Big thanks got your support 🙏
If you camp at a campsite then don't complain when people camp next to you .,if you want to go wild camping then camp where people don't camp , simple.
Thank you James , as I've said, all views are welcome. This video was made to help new wild campers learn about the it before stepping out the door. I hope they read each comment and make up their own minds. Thanks for watching and thanks for your thoughts, Ant 👍
You’re right to be annoyed Ant…..What they did goes completely against what wild camping is all about! One lot pitching right next to you and the other having a fire on the crag, what are they thinking!? Diabolical behaviour! It’s people like that that give wild campers a bad rap. They have no thought of anyone else or the preservation of the environment. It’s a Shame it spoiled what could have been a nice quiet solo camp. ATB mate ⛺️
Hi Joe mate. Yeah I was not happy pal. I definitely think it was their first wild camp as they had t shirts on when they arrived, they did put a light rain type coat on after but I think the seriously underestimate the cold in the night as when I got up at 5.30am there wasn't a sign of them pal. They must have packed up in the night. Big thanks as always for watch Joe
Those views are spectacular and all over social media, unfortunately it attracts some reprobates, I often stay at Bridge End Farm down below and take a walk up there. There is always signs of wildfires and you would think rangers would address the problem.
That's it Michael, if the Lakes decide wild camping is out of bounds its game over. Rangers would be out in force. Rubbish thankfully was at minimum but the fire pits were ridiculous mate. Thanks for your comment Michael 👍
Theres no way i would want to camp beside anyone while on a wild camp.As for fires i dont see a major problem especially in winter when theres not much chance of it spreading in the damp climate but it needs to be small and cleaned up properly when finished with the next morning. Personally i dont really bother with them but i do understand that camping and campfires kind of went hand in hand,but there is great off the ground fire pits now that i would seriously advice camper to use and keep the fire off the ground .Most of all we all should respect nature and people's space...
The whole side of the mountain burned to a crisp a few years back. Killing foliage and wildlife. Google it to see the damage. There’s a time and place for fires. Up mountains in the Lake District isn’t one of those places. EVER. Even in fire pits. There’s zero place for a fire up there.
Hi Derrick, thanks for your comment mate. Yeah for me I want to be well away from people like yourself. I agree with Andy I'm afraid. There's definitely a time and a place for camp fires. I've see first hand the damage it can do. We live very close to the Pennine's, and the moorland changed forever a few years back due to a guy who decided it was a good idea to take a BBQ up there and lit the whole Moors up. It burnt for months, countless wildlife perished, farms lost money, the cost of the emergency services working day and night must have been through the roof! They were using a helicopter constantly to bring in water. Big thanks for watching and your thoughts matey I appreciate it 🙏
Pipe it 😀 At least they were out in the bush..I like to make a small fire when I go camping why the fcuk not if its wet . You fly drones maybe they don't like that .maybe they don't like you either now when you could of made a couple of new friends 😉 But I agree maybe they could of pitched a bit further away 👍
Thank you Last Pinster, as I've said, all views are welcome. This video was made to help new wild campers learn about the it before stepping out the door. I hope they read each comment and make up their own minds. Thanks for watching and thanks for your thoughts, Ant 👍and mutual respect for all eh!
@@AntSurviveTheNight G'day 😉 I say what I mean and mean what I say 😀 I was kind of winding you up to see if you would bite .but you didn't so you are OK in my books mate 👍 Happy camping 🏕️ EDIT Proverbs 26:4-5 - Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes 😉💪
It does John, normally I'm away from people but unfortunately this was on my list to visit and as I when mid week I though it would have been quiet, how wrong was I 😆 thanks pal
Agreed, it's difficult enough in this country to find peace away from other people. I'd be cheesed off too. You'll have to get Les her own tent to pitch at the side of yours! 😉
I was really hoping that because it was a week day I'd have it all to myself. Least I've got it done now, won't be back camping that in a hurry. Would do the forest behind for sure. Haha! You really think she would?
Sorry to hear all that....looks like it was absolutely amazing except for that. Next time call Chris at MCM Outdoors....he'll take care of it for you right away 👈😉 Cheers 🍻
Hey Ted, thanks matey. Hope your well pal, did you enjoy the Eclipse, did you get to see it? Yeah it was beautiful up there, especially the morning pal. Haha yeah I was speaking to Chris, he was the one who convinced me to stay lol. Thanks man for watching and commenting 🙏
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Your background music too loud to hear you clearly
Sorry to hear that Bob mate. I edit with earphones on you see so just go off that and then watch it back on the TV to see if it's ok.
Hope it didn't affect your viewing of the video too much, Ant
It's just the intro, rest of the vid is fine.
Thanks mate, I tend to put it just on the intros like you say pal
Nowt worse than Toss pots like that ant mate!!
Ruin everything everywhere they go!!
A genuinely think there should be a aptitude test for people to go in the countryside 🤣 imagine how quiet it would be bliss lad
Remindsme of the scene after lockdown. The masses piled into national parks and left trash all over the place.
Hi David, hats off to the young lads because there was no rubbish left by them mate 👍 thanks for watching buddy
I was one of the volunteer who helped clean that crap up
I heard some of the people leaving trash where caught and fined
The irony is it is because of people making UA-cam videos about how and where to camp Raven crag isn't somewhere you should be advertising as a place you can "wildcamp"
Hi Egdop, good point made. Thanks very much for watching and for your thought buddy, Ant 👍
I have no issue with wild camping, but the amount of people advertising it and making it accessible for the masses is ruining it for everyone else. Also, Raven Crag isn't really somewhere we should be pitching up; just look at the state of the place. A big part of wild camping for me is going to these locations, looking at maps, and finding places to camp. TikTok is full of people giving grid references and parking locations to uneducated people who turn up, destroy the land, and leave a mess. Sorry to rant on your video btw 😊
So sorry your camp was spoilt by the thoughtlessness of others Ant.
We're not wild campers (missus likes her creature comforts too much, even under canvas lol), but we do pick more basic sites, and always ask if we can have a quiet corner out of the way if possible.
Probably like you, our camping trips are an escape from everyday life, and we just want time and space on our own.
On a more positive note, the views were absolutely awesome, and we're go grateful for you sharing them with us..... Thank You
Hi Ivan, thank you pal. Yeah that's right, it's a way to release the stress from what's going on in the real world. Yeah just the same, nowadays on campsites there's notices all round saying quiet after this time, does n dont's which makes you feel at ease. With wild camping it's just unwritten rules and the hope that other campers are decent and have done their homework.
Yes, the views were stunning in the morning which made me feel more chilled matey. Ahh cheers for the kind words, all the very best to you both!
Well done for not loosing it Ant, the ignorance of some. 😢 Harry.
Hi Harry mate, they were bigger than me haha! Seriously though I would always be straight with people, if there was an issue or I didn't agree with something I certainly would have a word, as long as you're not aggressive when making your point then it's all good eh! Thanks as always Harry
Awesome solo adventure man! Masterfully filmed and edited! 👏👏
Hello Ervin, thank you very much man, that's so very kind. Cheers, Ant 👍
I remember getting annoyed when I was last there last November, such a beautiful spot but bloody campfires all over and a load of rubbish left as well, which I had to take back. I noticed you took the very steep route up, a route I never take especially after my friend broke her ankle coming down that way about a year ago. I would not fancy tripping over that guy line in the night if I needed a gypsy's, as it is a big drop over that edge. Shame about the visitors, shame about the night and that whole crag was set of fire a canny few years ago by idiots lighting fires and such a shame they are still about. It was great to see you got some great views in the morning mind. Cheers Alan
Hi Alan, yeah they were all over mate, such a shame and really no need at all, none at all. The rubbish thankfully was at a minimum, not much at all thankfully. Oh boy did I Alan, it was OK really, I stopped a few times but made it up in no time. Yeah I always take the walking poles now pal, they really are a life saver.
I know mate, I thought I had more room than that, thankfully I rarely need a wee once I'm in the tent so didn't come out after dark 😉.
Yeah Andy just commented about the fore on the Crag a few years back, disgraceful isn't it, no need at all.
Beautiful views come the morning yes mate, it was meant to be foggy so I was lucky!
Big thanks Alan for sharing your thoughts pal
Raven Crag when I did the Wainwrights was one of my favourite fells, fabulous for not a lot of height, the only downside it’s too short a walk in, it saddens me deeply that Wild Camping is getting bad press for people not following Leave no trace.
It’s also very disappointing not to get the solitude, it’s the main reason I don’t wild camp much in the Lakes as I don’t know if I will be alone, in the yorkshire dales I know that I’m 99% likely to have it to myself which is why I mainly go there.
Real shame they didn’t do the right thing and give you some space.
Better luck next time.
Give you a sub, hope you can do likewise 👍
Hi Tito, yeah a beautiful area isn't it. Yeah pretty much straight up that way I did it, but didn't take long at all. That's it, people only see the negative press regarding wild camping not the good it brings. The majority of us do what's right and going back to the young lads, they did leave no trace because they must have packed up in the night and left because I was up at 5.30am and there wasn't a sign of them.
I need to hit the Yorkshire Dales, lots to see around there.
Thanks very much for your thoughts and support mate.
I really feel for you, and it's a fine example of what respectful wild campers are coming across more often. What may seem trivial to some, your whole experience was ruined by inconsiderate people. Your video was shot at the notorious hotspot of Raven Crag, which a few years ago was in flames due to irresponsible campers.
Your right Richard, COVID brought a lot of amateur campers out of the woodwork, some learned the proper way, others just went out to get drunk and party. I hope they are few and far between now pal
I can’t understand the obsession with fires while camping. It makes everything stink of smoke and fills your gear with holes, and that’s before the big burnt holes on the ground.
I'm a lover of Bushcraft and survival. You never know when you might need a fire. I also enjoy a fire but I'm very, very careful on how I make it and break it down, where I have one and also when I have one.
Thanks Joe for watching and for your thoughts matey 👍, Ant.
It's a difficult one because of course, they can camp where they like but at the same time, it's manners isn't it? Then to have them banging on for hours while trying to just relax is annoying as it's impossible to do so as all you can hear is them. Still, looked like a hell of a pitch you had there. Cheers
That's it mate, I don't own the area, this was never my point, my point was I wanted a peaceful chilled camp and I would have got it if they had looked for another pitch.
Yeah my pitch was stunning, the views were something else pal. Big thanks for your thoughts and the watch matey, cheers, Ant 👍
Yes exactly what I mean. Pretentious. If you didn't pay for the spot and have the view. It's not a bench press at the gym.
We had a camp last week when the same thing happened. Three lads appeared near us so I went to have a chat. "Is it OK to camp here?" they said. Noisiest set of *****s ever! Banging and shouting all night. We were packed up before they appeared and it was so tempting to start shouting ourselves in revenge - but of course we didnt.
See that horrendous isn't it Phil, if your there and pitched up then tough, they should move on, I wouldn't even ask. Totally not on that is it pal.
Really totally respect you and your channel but I could not hear the first minute or so of your vlog as the music was obliterating your speech. Finally worked out that I can see the words on screen if I press the correct button and then switch the sound off. Obviously am a newbie to this you tube stuff.
Great vlog just shows that the words 'wild camping' can have many meanings. Really glad you had the moan get it off your chest then reboot fer't next adventure. 😉Steve
Hi Stephen, thank you pal and sorry about that. I edit with headphones on you see, and then watch it back on the TV. I'll bare it in mind on the next edit buddy.
I'm glad you still managed to enjoy the film though mate and big thanks again for your comment Stephen 👍
You have a good old rant my friend 😂 it will make you feel better 👍
Proper good video mate despite your visitors. I was out the other night over Darwen Tower moors, one tent was already there somewhere I had thought about, I just walked a further 20 mins over a crest and tucked myself away. Personally I don’t want to look or see another tent or hear anyone, but I also think about OTHER people who aren’t camping do they want to see a mass of tents together? No!
Where are you from Ant? I’m also an Ant 🤣 cheers mate
Hi Ant! Yeah your dead right, I'm the same and yeah have some respect that's all it is pal. I'm from Bolton buddy. Great name eh! 👍
@@AntSurviveTheNightahhh just down road pal I live in Blackburn,born n bred, but just trying explore what’s on my doorstep for little bit this year with some lakes and Peak District stuff thrown in. Might see you up n about one day, I’m looking at Pendle hill camping next weekend
@blank-dr2kx ahh good stuff matey. Yeah there's loads on our doorstep isn't there. I've venture and completed a few camps in the Lakes but I'm just learning the Peaks which is fun! Come say hi if you see me pal
@@AntSurviveTheNightyea course I would mate 💯 I’ve not done much Peak District either tbh. Just went straight to the lakes n fell in love.
@@AntSurviveTheNightthere’s another UA-cam channels there Two Ants or after a few beers, “Twants” 🤣
Shame your camp was spoiled mate, cracking views the next morning though hopefully that makes up for it. My go to comment for “are we alright here or I’m not too close am I?” Is park where you like but fair warning I snore like a bear with a blocked nose…😂
Haha Martin, the funny thing is I do snore like a bear, there many a time the wife is downstairs when I wake in the morning due to that lol. Maybe that's why the packed up in the night and went 😆.
Yeah stunning views weren't they pal.
Big thanks for the watch Martin
A good video with an absolute right to moan about what you had to put up with.
Stonking view though in the morning. What a pleasure!
Hi Bourne, thanks pal. I thought so also mate, why should we have to put up with stuff like this when there's no need, just go find a pitch further away and everyone is happy eh!
Thanks mate, the view were stunning in the morning. Big thanks for watching and commenting 👍, Ant
@@AntSurviveTheNight It beggars belief that they pitched right next to you but,,, I suppose it’s like parking in the furthest away bay from the supermarket door, and the car park is nearly empty.
You come back and some pillock has parked next to you.
Some folks just can’t be on their own 😁
Have a blimmin good weekend 😉👍🏼
Yeah it may well be a comfort thing mate but they were two grown lads. I truly believe they were new to camping and just wanted the best views but camping in wet mud without the correct warm gear and pitching right next to someone else wouldn't do it for me mate
Good video mate. What kind of boots is that your wearing?
Hello mate, thanks very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it. The wellies are just from Aldi Solway. I use budget gear mainly and these are a part of the main cheap items I use.
Thanks again matey, Ant 👍
It's such a shame.Giving us considerate wild campers a bad name.
Young lads, Dustin. Most likely their first wild camp
I don't mind if people camp near me.. unless I can hear them snoring and other bodily functions... I never ever camp near others. Like Andy said "I have walked extra miles if someone was camped in my planned spot"... Take care out there.
Hi matey, hope your well. Yeah not my cup of tea, further away the better lol. Cheers buddy for the watch and your thoughts on it 👍
If I was coming up past you accompanied I'd just pass you by as I hate noise from others I'm not with as well.But if I was alone I'd probably say " Hi u ok ? " and , giving you the choice I'd say " Can I pitch here or would rather be alone ? " and ask first before I pulled so much as a peg out . If you say no , then I'd go further up if u say yes ok then my names Tom , here's a beer while I'm pitching up . There's nothing to say they can't do ( and we all shouldn't be doing it anyway if it comes to that as it's illegal ) but a bit common sense respect for someone who's already there , and defo no fires up there especially .
Tom , Oldham
All makes perfect sense Tom, I'd have said fine no problem if your handing out beers haha! Although having said that, I only took one up and I was wary about drinking that as its a long old drop off the edge haha.
Agreed but as we are saying it's the unwritten rules we could all do with stick to but as I say, I'm sure they were newbies. Thanks again matey.
No problem Ant..I'll have one handy if I'm passing and ya there before me ! Other than that , breakfast at Nicola's cafe up on Rishworth Moor next to M62 where't transmitter is👍
@tomhamer7838 haha good stuff mate!! Oh I must try that cafe then pal
Love the bod cat tent
Me too buddy 👍
Had mine 10 years still going strong
First time subscriber here. Must say I really enjoyed your camerawork. I wouldn't have been quite so polite and would have taken the Mr. Rottweiler approach (do you remember Brian Glover in Bottom?). "Why don't you two *&^^ off or you'll up down bottom of crags".
Morning David, thank you sir for the sub, I really appreciate it and I do hope you enjoy the back catalogue.
Yeah, I'm not one to cause a ruckus. They asked me if I was ok with them camping there I said I wanted to be on my own, they didn't take the hint, nothing I could do matey. Never mind, plenty more camps to be had eh! Thanks again David, all the best, Ant 👍
@@AntSurviveTheNight cheers pal all the best
Don’t get it my self mate, if you tipped up and saw a tent there, you wouldn’t even put your bag down, you carry on and find your own quiet space, all the hills and woodland in the Lake District and they plonk their gear near you. Disrespectful to you and the other guys disrespectful to the surroundings, bet if you’d checked they’d of not squared the fire away. Gutted for ya matey
Hey Steven, all true matey, all true. They was plenty a space back behind the Crag platform, the forest was beautiful and that's where I would have headed if I'd have got there late. There were a lot of scorched fire pits around there. I'd have at least hoped that they might have had the fire in a firebox or a trough but who knows. Thanks Steven for the comment dude 👍
I think sometimes some people don't plan for alternate pitches ,and are locked into to where they had planned in there head where they are camping
Quite possibly true that mate but to camp in wet cold mud, if that was me and even if I had my heart set on a spot, if it wasn't suitable for pitching I wouldn't pitch. Thanks matey for your watch and also your thoughts, cheers, Ant 👍
Unfortunately in certain parts of the world the arse/countryside ratio is just too high
Lol Wallace, that's funny 😁 😂
@@AntSurviveTheNight nice of you not to object to that it wasn’t a national comment despite my name 😃👍 Had a similar but less extreme near Ben More. Due lack of self control AC/DC was deployed at full bung in departure. My bad.
@wallace-bv4rl 😆 no problem. Oh haha! Bet that woke the dead lol
hey up ya moanin bugger lol. I can see your point mate. I once camped up near a llyn with my grandson Jack, and had it all to ourselves in the middle of nowwhere ( so we thought ) and over the next few hours had steams of people passing us ( this was in the middle of winter, and dark) they where either looking for a pitch or trying to get to a bothy ( which was the wrong way to get to it anyroad) one or our `visitor's` dogs tried pinching our food 😱. cheeky bugger !! Fires !! no need for one . I can see someone's had a fire behind where you where venting your frustrations.. 🙁We camped on the edge of deerstones ( pendle hill )a while ago . that was a fair drop indeed. now for the good news.......... Im out with the mighty bobcat tomorrow. ( sunday ) first time aswell. Lets see how it goes 😀. All the best mate. Keep smiling !!
Haha hi Billy! Great news about the camp out tonight pal! Let me know what you thought of it will ya mate.
I don't mind if they are passing you by it's the pitching up right next door when there's a problem. Oh gosh! I couldntxhavexa dog nicking my food, you know how much I love my food 😆. Thanks matey as always for popping on and commenting. Have a top night tonight buddy.
If you see people, its not wild.
Its the same when you park in a quite place in a car park and some fecker parks right next to you 🤣🤣
I've had that happen, especially when you get a new car and you don't wanna park near anyone lol. Cheers pal 👍
A bit pretentious , no? People do gravitate to the best spots.
Best spots meaning views? As the spot they pitched in as full of cold wet mud. I'd give the views up for a dry floor 🤔 cheers Trip, thanks for watching and your thoughts Ant 👍
Nice location…Have fun stay safe.
Thank you Kenneth, you too pal!
Thats a nightmare. My James was up.there a month or so back n said the amount of rubbish that had been left about n multiple fire scars was ridiculous 😕. Such a beautiful place too. A victim of its own accessibility and popularity 😕. Sad eh.
No rubbish up there really, plenty of fire scorch marks and stones left. Just no need for it is there.
Why would you set up right next to someone with all that space🤦♂️
It's only got a certain amount of pitches to be honest VW but there were pitches to choose from instead of pitching with me. Thanks mate and I hope you enjoyed it. I appreciate your thoughts 🙏, Ant.
You disturb them with your drone
Fortunately I didn't, maybe have a look back or even watch the video first and you'll see that they had gone 😉
you disturbed me with your drone - always one johnny bag
I’m trying to keep it polite. Absolutely disgusting behaviour by them. Fires ffs. A couple of years ago the whole cliff side and the area where you pitch caught fire. 🔥 destroyed it. Now it’s grown back. Ooh let’s have a fire. I wouldn’t have been so polite I’m afraid. The idiots who had a fire when I was there were locals. It’s not on. I’ve literally walked a further mile because someone was pitched where I had planned. It’ll not be long before they start really clamping down over there. I hope your “neighbors”see this and have the balls to apologise on here. But they won’t.
Utter disgrace.
Other than that. Nice video mate. Those views. 😮😮 👍 Atb.
Haha! You did keep it clean Andy! Very well done and hats off to you haha!
Seriously though its right in what you say. I know first hand what a fire can do to a moorland. The Pennine's went up and burned for months a few years back, they could not stop it and that was through an ass with a BBQ. There's a time and a place for fires, we know this and so should anyone who as that idea in their head to start one.
I would do the same mate, there is no way I would be anywhere near anybody on a camp. As I've said on other comments, as you know there are more than one spit to pitch up on the Crag itself but there's a whole forest just behind that is gorgeous. Madness, utter Madness to use your saying.
It's very true, we are lucky to have a place like the Lake District that the locals turn a blind eye on wild campers. Stuff like this could change that.
Thank mate and big thanks for your feedback on the subject 👍
Yeah you can tell that the place had caught fire just by the state of the twigs (trees). It will take many years for it to get back to it's aforementioned beauty. But I doubt it will do because toss potts will keep harming the trees for kindling. Boils my p155 it really does.
@pshearduk hi mate, yeah there was a downed tree completely burnt out, I did some filming on it. Folks need to realise that live trees don't burn!
Thanks mate for sharing your thoughts, cheers, Ant.
@@AntSurviveTheNight mate, I despair sometimes. I really have no idea what goes through these idiots heads. You know what, I think it takes folks to be there constantly on weekends en masse to just be there and say NO.
@@pshearduk I always have a fire and there is nothing wrong with it as long as you are responsible. As for you calling anyone who has a fire an Idiot, you need to grow up. Fire is one of the most basic needs since time began. I would love some clown like you to try and tell me otherwise while I'm out camping.
Urggh what's wrong with people Ant? Etiquette or no etiquette, just some flipping common sense would do. 🙄 Hearing them on the video alone was winding me up a treat.
I had an issue once when out in the Peaks, it was around 12am and a couple rocked up, walked right past my tent with their head torches on full beam, chatting away and then pitched up round the corner from me. They then proceeded to shout and laugh for the next 2-3 hours. 🤦
Anyway, if it's any consolation mate, I really enjoyed the video. 🤷
Oh no that sound downright horrible Tricky. It's hard because you don't know who your about to have a "conversation" with, what type of people they are, if there's a few, you know what I mean. Hope camps since have gone your way pal.
Thank you mate, I appreciate that. Big thanks for sharing your thoughts 🙏
My mates and I were wild camping in the lake district 35 + years ago because we were very poor and wanted to save money on the campsite fees. Bumpy hilly fields with no amenities 50p to £1.50 pppn.They were the most memorable and exiting holidays I have had.But we just enjoyed them and didn't try to promote it as a thing to do.The paradox is that UA-camrs creating videos of this leisure pursuit have created the problem of too many sheeple doing this in too small of a space.Maybe avoid the easy to get to places and go a bit off piste to enjoy the peace and solitude that so many of us need
Hi Baggies, nothing wrong with that at all mate. I go out to get away from the stresses of my life. I camp, make videos and edit. That's my stress relief. I always try my best to do the right thing.
I've got a goal of places I want to camp and make film at and this was one of them. I did what I could to minimise the amount of foot traffic that was going to be up there by going during the week and it worked, there were three ither groups of camps that came with space left over to pitch at that weren't anywhere near me.
Big thanks for your thoughts and for watching the video. I appreciate it. Ant 👍
I wouldn't know Mik if I'm honest as I only started my outdoor journey 7 years ago but it does make sense mate.
Yeah best to stay out of the busy spits I get it. I have a list of where I want to camp and unfortunately that was one haha
You come up here! Eating our women and sleeping with our food...... 😆
You come round here, sleeping with our UA-cam channels, eating our subscribers.... 😄
I’m met a young lad out in the dales on Fountains Fell. He was unsure about pitching up as he was new to the game. pointed him to the best spot (which I planned to pitch) and took myself a good 500m away. It’s all about respecting the space and each other’s space.
A gentleman that's what you are mate. Good on you. Thanks very much for watching and for this comment, loved that.
I think perhaps finding out someone’s experience is a tool that us experienced people should be looking at and offer the advice in a polite way if we are shitty about it then no one will learn to care
I'm all for advertising and taking advice or else how would we learn 🤔
Omg to all those saying he doesn't own the outdoors, I don't recollect him ever saying that!! It's just common courtesy and manners not to pitch up right next to another wild camper. If there isn't room, you look elsewhere. If someone is at a pitch you had your eye on its tough luck, you keep looking.
Thanks Leeroy, your very correct there. Most of the negative comments are from people who have either not watched the video apart from the first 30 sec or they are Trolls neither concern me mate
Don’t worry Ant I know it’s annoying but there will be lots more camps mate 👍👍⛺️⛺️⛺️⛺️⛺️⛺️👍👍
Oh for sure Alan, I just wanted to make people aware, especially the people new to the world of wild camping. Cheers buddy 👍
This is a coincidence as I was about to start a series on camping etiquette and the byelaws on Dartmoor.
I've no idea about the Lakes since camping isn't strictly 'legal' but common sense should come into practice when camping near someone else. I'd be pretty certain that campfires would be illegal though. The lighting of them in the hills and mountains, especially leaving scars, sheds a bad light on every camper regardless.
This is what gets camping banned and is likely to keep camping banned. You have every right to be angry/peeved.
Hey Si, ahh cool yeah go ahead with it mate, we need yo certainly spread the word about as much as possible.
No, we are fortunate that the locals turn a blind eye to it, the best part that is but this will certainly change if more people act like this.
There were massive signs on the way up to the Crag stating no fires allowed. There were umpteen scorch marks and charred rocks where people have had fires and even a hefty cut down tree that at some point had been set fire to.
Thanks Si for your input pal
Do it! X
That's the risk we all run, makes it easier if we behave though doesn't it. Out of sight out of mind eh! Thanks buddy
Just not on,but sometimes things are sent to try you.oh came across a great simple hack.when opening your packaged camping meal,open it from bottom to top for easier access to all the meal.can’t think of why I’ve never thought of that before so simple love it.👍
Hi John, they certainly are pal. Yeah I've seen that too, I must try it next time, especially after I forgot my long spork lol. Thanks pal
its times like that I think to myself "you can't make this shit up". I bring earplugs...but haven't brought a eye mask yet.
Haha I know mate. I do have ear plugs but wouldn't wear them if there's strangers about. Out in the middle of nowhere I don't mind if the wind is up but not on a spot like this that's easy to get to.
Thanks matey for the watch and comments 👍
You must've been annoyed, no tales from the tent! 😅 To me if there's limited space and it's not due to bad weather etc then it's well off you pop mate! And definitely turning up late is a case of snooze you lose! Should have said to them, since being released from prison my angers not as bad as it used to be, but I still carry my axe just in case...
Haha! I know right! I just felt uncomfortable, I couldn't speak so stuff like that go out the window mate. Yeah that's the thing there was other pitches and a full forest at the back of the Crag. I wouldn't pick a fight but I'd certainly say like I did about wanting peace and quiet. Haha, I'll remember not to pick a fight with you then Phil lol. Thanks buddy for the watch and your views on this subject 👍
If you go to extremely popular spots like Raven Crag, don’t be surprised when knuckledraggers join you 🤷♀️
Lol Knuckledraggers, never heard that one before mate hahaha! That's funny
forgive me, but i thought the etiquette of wild camping included the following advice -
don’t camp in places where there are specific signs up asking you not to.
pitch up at dusk or after dark
break camp at dawn or very soon after
you can’t just follow bits of the accepted etiquette and not all.
All that was followed by one. No signs to say no camping (there was for no fires) I pitched at 4.30pm, nobody was around for the hour I waited before pitching and the weather was bad . I was up at 5.30am and was away by 7am.
Wild camping at a spot where it's fine to camp (like in Scotland) doesn't require getting there late and leaving early. That's only needed when you're trying to camp undetected.
@@robinferguson8911that’s the point though. it’s not fine to camp there. it’s not scotland. and there are signs at the bottom of the hill asking people not to camp there.
@shortstop47 I filmed the walk up, there was no signs, unless you went up a different route Paul we'll have to agree to disagree my friend
@@shortstop47 Even the National Trust website says wild camping is tolerated as long as it's higher than the highest fell wall (approx over 400 meters). If the National Trust says it's OK, then I will stick with that advice they state on their website, as copy pasted below
If you do decide wild camping is for you...
Stay out of sight and for only one night
A wild camp pitch must be above the highest fell wall (approximately 400m or 1200 feet high) and shouldn't be noticed by anybody else. This means staying away from any buildings or other wild campers. Don't camp next to streams or springs to avoid contaminating the water. Arrive late in the day (dusk) and move on at dawn.
Etiquette is pitch late leave early? You pitched before half four! And say it was still light at 2100! Etiquette is no fires. Woodland or not. First come first served isn't the way forward. Unfortunately we live on a very crowded island. Lot of snobbery in the comments and picking and choosing of rules you choose to follow.
I've never heard of the etiquette of no fires apart from on FB pages that state that I enjoy a fire in the right situation. If nobody is about and the weather is bad, I'll certainly pitch up, and I left early. If you don't liver on this "very crowded island," you wouldn't actually know the areas we have. You talk about snobbery, I'm 💯 sure the people who have come out with silly comments on here haven't actually watched the full video and certainly haven't watched any of my other videos in my back catalogue
Wild camping ? nah mate , get off the beaten track lad.
Oh I do Delred, have a nosy at my back catalogue pal. Cheers, Ant 👍
Its not exactly wild camping when your in front of a viewing platform!!
Go find a desolate place mate and stop being so entitled. Over here in Oz we go find our spot and have a fire and do what we want. And I'm an ex Pat from UK. Get off the track dude 🤣
Spend a little time and watch my other videos, you'll probably find I've gone further a field than you think 😉
Mate, the outdoors isn't yours.
Get off the beaten track if you want solitude.
Camping in popular spots, your gonna have to share.
Share the love ✌️
Thank you Toby, I never said it was pal, all i wanted was my own space, not to have two lads sat on my knee for the night when there was no need.
As I've said, all views are welcome. This video was made to help new wild campers learn about it before stepping out the door. I hope they read each comment and make up their own minds. Thanks for watching and thanks for your thoughts, Ant 👍and mutual respect for all eh!
Thats ridiculous Ant. This is the reason i never go to popular spots, especially easily accessible one and on a weekend. Shame it ruined it for you and well done for dealing with it 👍
Yeah not the best camp Benny mate. I truly thought it would have been quiet due to it being a Wednesday. I was prepared to camp in the forest behind the Crag if there were others already there, it wouldn't have bothered me too much at all. Thanks buddy for you view on it 👍
The problem is many of the cretins who went camping during Covid because Benidorm and Wetherspoons was off the cards carried on doing it. Sometimes better to nip it in the bud before they pitch up, ask them if they’re looking for a pitch, then kindly direct them far far away.
There was certainly an influx of people when covid hit. I had a beautiful spot where I used to Bushcraft and camp. Its was so well hidden but unfortunately it got smashed up when the found it. Big thanks Paul for watching mate and commenting 👍
Why do people think they own the mountain because they went precovid?
Nightmare Ant. I’m sure they could have pitched elsewhere and as for the fire there is no need for that especially if it’s not a cold night. Positive side, great views in the morning and the bobcat standing strong 💪.
Yeah wasn't the best camping experience Geoff haha. Na, definitely a time and place for fires for sure. No, definitely wasn't cold enough for a fire. Yeah stunning views in the morning for sure buddy. The Bobcat is my go-to tent with no doubts. Thanks matey.
Hi Ant, you drew me in with that title and I have watched you before mate. Interesting yes camping etiquette. We are getting older🤣 we’ve probably forgotten what being a young lad is like 😊.
I too would not have been happy and I don’t agree with fires in those locations.
I usually camp in the Peak District and I went by Alpert castles and there were 10 tents mostly young compared to me and for me I’m not going to camp there as it becomes camp site and I don’t like campsites but I do use them when necessary.
I camped about a mile on from there in a location most don’t use.
You definitely have to careful about your spot in the Peaks these days to feel that solitude.
Anyway Ant I loved your chat and great video.
ATB
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Hi Dave, good stuff mate. I don't do click bait videos, I express within a title what's going on in the video and this one was very important for me to get people to watch this video.
I'm sure they were top lads but my point was that if you're heading out for the first time, just do your research before heading out the door. I spent months preparing for my first wild camp which you can watch on the channel matey.
I need to head to the peaks mate, do some exploration but first I'll again do my research on location ls before heading out.
Yeah I would have been nowhere near 10 tents either matey haha.
Thanks so much for your thoughts on this Dave, cheers pal 👍
It’s not wild camping is it really? Not like the old definition? Above the tree line. It’s fly camping. And with fly camping you run the risk of anyone coming to join you these days. Really well put together though pal. And fingers crossed for a better camp next time. All the best
If you have to dig a hope to have a poo it's wild camping in my book. But seriously, it's each to their own, i class wild camping when your out there and looking for a pitch to camp for the night a pitch that isn't a campsite. Thank you though Paul for your time in commenting and your time watching my video. These comments are all there for people to see who are maybe just starting out. Cheers, Ant
@@AntSurviveTheNight it's great to see so many people getting out though. All the best
💯 Paul
You cannot promote wild camping and then complain when others do the same. Just because you went there for peace doesn't mean that others have to go there for peace.
Hi RMC, as I've said from the start. This is never about complaining about others camping, it was about just having that consideration when arriving at a camp spot. People can do what they like as long as they respect the outdoors and the people around them. I have no issues of making noise, but if you choose to do that, then make sure you aren't anywhere near other people. Thanks for watching and for your thoughts RMC, Ant 👍
And this is the reason I rarely camp in the lakes these days Ant , too many eejits for my liking . I like quiet and miserable on my own lol . Turned out at stunning morning tho 📷⛺️👍
Hi Dave, it's a real shame though isn't it pal, lovely up there and some great films you've made up the too man. You ain't miserable mate, you just like your own space as do we all. Thanks for commenting pal 👍
Use a bivy and tuck yourself away
Avoids visiting campers
Yeah I'm after a hooped bivi by Alpkit actually mate, it would have been perfect for up there. Thanks pal for watching and commenting, Ant 👍
Probably find that you are on the water authorities land, therefore on drinking water catchment area. You have no legal rights to camp at that location anyway. The water authorities are now proactive at removing campers from this area currently. One erroneous decision is bad enough, so little reason to complain about others joining you is a little bit rich. I'm sure you leave no trace, and I'm quite sure many will shout me down for my input, but quite frankly the County doesn't need any more illegal (wild) camping on already contentious ground. Yes I wild camp, but high up, arrive late leave early. And yes I am local.
We wild camp alone for the solitude. You have every right to complain. People are loosing their sense of respect for one another. Its sad. Thanks for your efforts to bring us some beauty. God knows we need it!
Hi Antonia, that's it! I for one get away due to stresses in my life, I way to recharge but maybe its my fault I went to a tiny and well visited place eh! I'm glad you still enjoyed it though, thank you. 😊
Sorry that happened.
I would not dare camp close to anyone I wasn't hiking with.
Thank you Maywyn, me either. Cheers for your comment and for clicking on the video, Ant 👍
Great video and I couldn't agree more but I think all you guys doing the videos and putting on you tube are victims of your own success, the clout heads try to copy 👍
Hi Ant , I'd be giving you a "Hi ok ?" and I'd be asking you first " Can I pitch here or du want to be on your own ? "
before I even pulled so much as a peg out..but i'd be on my own anyway if I was asking , if I was accompanied , I'd pass you by automatically as I hate noise from others as well if I'm alone
Tom, Oldham
Perfect Tom, that way I could have pointed them in the direction of other suitable spots mate, you can't do that after they had pitched up, hopeless eh!
Thanks for your comment/thoughts pal 👍
Nice one Ant.
Stunning spot.
Unfortunately there are so many ignorant muppets !!
Atb Graham
Hi Graham, thanks buddy. Yeah a beautiful spot, well used though so it's kinda like, been there, done that now, you know... thanks pal 👍
Unfortunately you cannot teach manners or etiquette to Dumb and Dumber! Now and then Dumb and Dumber appear to all of us Wild Campers who have mutual respect for each other! They are a growing breed, that unfortunately are not going extinct some time soon!
I like the mutual respect line mate, I really do. Thanks very much for watching and for your comment pal 👍
I must admit i think id have had to ask them to move. Not like its a small region with nowhere else to go.
Hello Novice, welcome pal. Personally I prefer not to get into a confrontation. I did tell them when asked but I'm not into arguing on a Crag ledge lol 😆. I truly didn't know they were pitching up as I thought they were sat behind my tent after coming from the other side of the Crag. They were arguing so I left them to it and turned on the radio.
If I'd have come out when they were starting to pitch I'd have said something.
Thanks mate for popping on and cheers for your thoughts, Ant 👍
What a beautiful place Such a shame you had it spoiled by noisy intruders . Thank you for posting Ant it's a pleasure watching your adventures I could never do that climb .
looking forward to the next Adventure .
Hello Tarmac mate, I hope you're well pal. Thanks mate. It was a tough straight up climb but quite fast really, I just had to catch my breath about 10 times lol. I'm chuffed you enjoy the content dude, means a lot Tarmac
15:07 Absolutely. I hate that so much. Drives me crazy. I wonder if they picked up their trash as well. Thanks for another great video, Ant. Looks like an incredible hike. The views are amazing, breathtaking. Still too cold here for wild camping here haha 😂
Hi Rick how's it going pal, good to see you on. How was that amazing eclipse yesterday pal?
To be fair the place looked tidy, I've heard bad things about the litter up there but it was good when I was there last Wednesday.
Thank you pal I always appreciate your comments as you know. It was a short hike but straight up it felt haha! Yeah once it cleared the views were amazing up there dude. Ahh go get um Rick! Get a 4 season tent and bag and hit the camp sites dude! I need to be over there eith you for a couple of weeks, get out and adventure. I'm determined to visit you guys haha
I like fires. If I had the money I'd go live somewhere in bumfk nowhere, and have a proper fireplace.
No modern utility or invention beats a fire.
But from what I read, there are other issues with that there, like damage and possible danger, and even signs and such. So, while I understand the allure of having a fire, I wouldn't have done it and stuck to the rules. At least if I had other ways, like an Esbit stove, a campingaz and/or an FRH or whatever.
As for there being people there. Well, that sucks a bit for you, I suppose. Not being able to do what you wanted to. And I understand being miffed. But that's how it is. Other people have other things they want to do, and a little bit of consideration goes both ways. Who's to say those lads wanted you there? Maybe they spent 2 years planning to come to that exact spot. You don't know either, do you?
I think the only etiquette for wild camping is being respectful of your fellow campers if you see them, and of the nature you enjoy. No more than in life. Don't steal, don't kill, don't litter, don't commit indecent acts, don't start forest fires, etc. etc.
Anything else will just have to be discussed between the parties involved. If you really wanted to be alone so badly, you could've gone to them and tried to make a deal or something.
Or... Even better. Joined them, have a beer and a laugh instead.
ç'est la vie, my friend. Other people want the same thing you do. There's only one thing for it. Go do it twice again, to make up for this time, eh? ;p
Hi mate, yeah I too love having a fire and pretty much like you said there's a time and a place isn't there. Yeah they had other means to make hot drinks and cook. Up there can be very dangerous and to start a blaze would be devastating just like a few years back.
That's all fair enough but this is my point about etiquette, it's not a rule, there's no rules but etiquette then I think if your respect the outdoors you would respect someone's privacy especially when there are other spots. Even if I'd have planned it for 2 yrs and got there and someone else was pitched up in that spot I certainly wouldn't go and pitch right next to them just because I'd planned it. I have rules within myself, I respect other campers I respect their right to privacy.
I don't owned any of the places I visit but what I should be able to do is have a little me time. Granted, its a small place but I limited the foot traffic by going in the week. Its ticked off and I'm happy I stayed especially the morning views, which unfortunately the lads who camped with me didn't get to see as the had pitched up in wet cold mud and by the time I got up to watch the sunrise at 5.30am they had packed up and left the scene.
I was asked the question was it alright to be at the side of me and I replied with what's in the video. It was raining when they came so I was in my tent and thought it was the lads from the other group behind my tent arguing. I certainly wasn't going out and speaking to them while that was going on, by the time I was out they had pitched up.
Anyways, big thanks for watching and thank you very much for your thoughts, all the best, Ant 👍
some absolute weapons about mate. I would have got up and moved to be honest. Its the main reason I hate going to well known locations. ATB Steven
Hey Steven, I appreciate the watch matey. Yeah thankfully it's the first time this has happened, probably why I moaned alot 😄. I thought about packing up and heading to the car but thinking about it I'd have headed to the forest behind mate as it was massive!
Yeah, it was a place on my hit list to tick off but that's it, won't be going again, we'll not for a camp anyway.
Cheers again for popping by Steven, Ant 👍
Nice one Ant I would of added a craic with ya n said is it ok I set up near ya but then I don’t cause grief n ruin the land if ya wasn’t happy me near ya I would of just moved on 👍👍👍
I'd have preferred that Craig, if they would have just spoken to me first I'd have said don't pitch there because it's full of mud. That I didn't let you guys know about. There were other areas such as that one where I was speaking about it all to the camera, I perfect little spot that. Cheers buddy 👍
I know there are no written rules per say, but even as a newby it’s understood if someone has the spot, you move on to somewhere out of sight at least. As much so you don’t hear each other snoring 😂
That's it Chris, it's more of a gentleman's agreement, an unwritten rule. I certainly wouldn't want to be near anyone, there were other pitches an the a forest full at the back of the Crag. Haha, I snore like mad too lol. Thanks Chris.
Etiquette - it ain’t for everyone. Tragedy of the commons: when everyone is in it for themselves where the resource is finite (an analogy of the world these days) - remember the ‘First Rule’ of wild camping - like mushroom foraging, it’s best not to share too much information about where the best places to pitch are….
I thought you were about to break into the fight club speech then Freeforester 😆.
@@AntSurviveTheNight got it in one first rule - don’t talk about ‘site’ club 🤣🖐🏻👍🏻
@freeforester1717 lol!! Haha!
Read video if someone camped by the side of me young boys be shit to myself all night
Lol I think I got this comment Lee haha! 🤣
Totally understand, its similar when im out in my van. Last time someone pulled up right next to me playing music which got louder through the day by midnight it was very loud, i heard him get out of the van and shouted out to stop being an inconsiderate C@@T, he turned it off and luckily left early the next day, I had no backup plan, i'm a wimp with a loud voice! 😂 i went away to get away from people and have some precious peace.
Hi Davy, yeah it's just inconsiderate to park up next to you, crank the music up and party all night, find a place on your own to do that.
The thing that alot of the viewers of this video aren't getting is to just respect a fellow camper, person whoever and give them breathing space. Thanks man for your view and comment
Bang out of order those other two sets of campers Ant, fires and pitching too close are two of my pet hates. I was over Islay last year and got myself a perfect coastal park-up in my campervan, a 4x4 rocks up, parks right next to me (there were plenty of other places to park) and 4 lads got out and proceeded to pitch their tents in the front of my vehicle. WTF?? I went out and had a word and they were all like "Is there a problem? Where's the problem?" I ended up driving off and parking elsewhere. And for wild camping I always head somewhere I know no-one else goes to - and preferably midweek 😂 That area's been ruined with the fire pits, absolute bell-ends. atb DVS :)
Hello Donna, yeah thanks for that. That sounds horrible too what happened to you. Its not fair, you're there, they come a spoil it and I'm sure if you'd have stayed tge noise would have started. Sometimes best to just pack up. I was about to do that I can tell you.
Yeah it's was Wednesday when I went, it's one I wanted to tick off the list you see. Won't be going back.
All the very best Donna, thanks for watching and for your thoughts
Just come across your video, new here. I totally get why you go up to a quiet place for the solitude and peace. I’m a mental health professional and spend as much time as possible in the countryside. Unfortunately I see lots of people disrespecting the great outdoors, but I also meet lots of wonderful people who respect their surroundings. I hike the Brecon Beacons (Bannau Brycheiniog) and people treat Pen Y Fan like it’s a park. One of my pet hates is the dog bags being left on a trail. Anyway, your view was beautiful and I’m not sure about you but just to get that perspective for a moment is worth the hassle.
Hi Treforest, welcome buddy and thanks for clicking on the video.
A hard profession you've picked I'm sure. Yeah it's a total reset isn't it when you go out and experience a wild camp.
A lovely part of the world to call your back yard mate. Yeah the busier places can be hard work and the dog bags are my pet hate also.
It's a place I wanted to tick off the list, I'm glad I've done it but won't be heading back in a hurry.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts bud 👍
It's great to see folk getting out and enjoying the outdoors but I wouldn't be expecting solitude at a popular view point next to a path. These days if you want peace and quiet you need to get off the beaten track. A look at a map will give you loads of options for quality solitude. There used to be a few well known principles around wild camping etiquette like 'arrive late and leave early' and camping above the highest intake wall was generally accepted as good practice, but it seems like anywhere is fair game now.
As for other folk camping next to you - well, it's like parking in the Lakes. Folk arrive and the car park is full but they haven't considered a Plan B so they just park anyway. It's a whole new world.
Bloody shame to have your night spoiled like that. Two distinct groups of people that go camping at these locations. Those for solitude & those for the sesh
Hi Triz, yeah the majority think like us mate. A bit of peace doesn't hurt anyone. Thanks pal
Do you know what annoys me? People flying drones all over making uninformed egotistical videos on wild camping...I live on the road the woods hills mountains rivers streams sky its everyones..
Thank you Pete, as I've said, all views are welcome. This video was made to help new wild campers learn about it before stepping out the door. I hope they read each comment and make up their own minds. Thanks for watching, and thanks for your thoughts, Ant 👍
Looks a really nice pitch, what a shame it was spoilt by inconsiderate others.
Thanks Graham, yeah a beautiful spot, I'll revisit but only as a day trip pal. Thanks for watching buddy, Ant 👍
Personally I like my space so I go where others won’t go you went somewhere that people think that will work for me too I go places where people don’t want to go that extra mile or through that thick bit of woods want to be alone? Go where no one goes 🥰 ( I do it regularly no excuse we don’t own the land and we fight for it for it to be free) but etiquette none the less when you do share close pitches. Shame
Hi Sage, I'm normally the same but there's certain places I've got on a list that I want to tick off you see and this was one of them. I tried to minimise the hit of people up there by going in the week but hey, it could have been worse I suppose. Thank you for your comment, it makes sense 👍
really cool vid still ! -- If they are young lads why not explain to them and help them relocate. Sounds like you made it more awkward for yourself/them, yet with no benefit to you
Thanks Richard. Unfortunately they had pitched there tent by the time I came out to look as I thought it was the other campers from around the Crag and just thought they had come down to sit on the log and have a moan at each other. Plus, we shouldn't have to get involved, this is what I mean about Etiquette and doing your homework before heading out the door, you know what I mean matey. Should be up to us to go out and have a word ever though I did tell them I wanted a bit of peace and quiet. If that was me I'd have packed up and moved spots. Thanks pal for commenting
Are you moaning again ffs 😂. You will always get clowns, but at least you got the best spot and you have done that area. ✅️
Lol I know right! Oh well! Unfortunately it's a given pal isn't it. Haha yeah it was a great spot after I'd calmed down that is. Yes, won't be going back there in a hurry pal. Thanks Leon.
@jimbryan2271 why so serious??
@@Conny79 ah sorry mate, hungover and one of them days, all the best.
@@jimbryan2271 happens to all of us pal
How dare those guys come onto your private land and camp next to you! I could understand if they were camping in a public place where everyone has the right to.
Spoken like a true Non-wild camper, thanks for watching and for your thoughts, Ant 👍
I agree with every word you have said, we do this to come away and let the body & mind be at unity with nature, other humans can spoil that.
Thanks Andy. I just don't want to be that close to anyone I don't know and the same should be said for them.
It would anoy me if they where next to me but they also have the same rights as you to be there. I would of moved away from them. I camped near a Tarn and had campers around near me. It's not like I could tell them to move away from the Tarn because your in my view.
Hi Leon, yeah this is the thing, I've always said I have no rights but the point I'm making is about the unwritten rule, the etiquette if anything, the respect of other peoples right to have a little privacy especially when there are other pitches available. It's always been about that for me so that new people coming into wild camping have a bit of an idea when it comes to the outdoors.
Big thanks for watch mate and thank you very much for your thoughts, Ant 👍
Eyup mate, Jonny here. I've always meant to write a comment to you but seem to to forget each time. I've watched load of your videos mate, started last year with when you went to caledonian canal with canoe. It helped me in a huge way to plan me own trip and you and your brilliant videos have inspired me to start me own channel. my first been the caledonian canal in 6 parts. I'd love it if you had a look. I'm dead new like n don't have the best camera, lights and drone equipment but have always enjoyed the outdoors so thought, why not give it a go. I fully understand your little rant and think you did very well NOT to swear haha I love wild camping and canoein. I'm from Yarm north Yorkshire myself but live in Bavaria Germany now and I'd love it you're ever in this neck of the woods that you drop me a line and we can do a hike in to the Alps together for a wild camp. In the mean time it would really be an honor to have a fella like yourself give my channel a subscribe and like on videos. hope you're well n keep em comin, love your work.
Hi Jonny, oh nice one mate. Yeah a fabulous adventure that was, we raised an absolute fortune for the Alzheimer's Society. It will always be my favourite trip of all time that for those special reasons.
I wish you all the luck with your channel mate and yeah I'll come check it out.
Big thanks got your support 🙏
If you camp at a campsite then don't complain when people camp next to you .,if you want to go wild camping then camp where people don't camp , simple.
Thank you James , as I've said, all views are welcome. This video was made to help new wild campers learn about the it before stepping out the door. I hope they read each comment and make up their own minds. Thanks for watching and thanks for your thoughts, Ant 👍
You’re right to be annoyed Ant…..What they did goes completely against what wild camping is all about! One lot pitching right next to you and the other having a fire on the crag, what are they thinking!? Diabolical behaviour! It’s people like that that give wild campers a bad rap. They have no thought of anyone else or the preservation of the environment. It’s a Shame it spoiled what could have been a nice quiet solo camp. ATB mate ⛺️
Hi Joe mate. Yeah I was not happy pal. I definitely think it was their first wild camp as they had t shirts on when they arrived, they did put a light rain type coat on after but I think the seriously underestimate the cold in the night as when I got up at 5.30am there wasn't a sign of them pal. They must have packed up in the night. Big thanks as always for watch Joe
You are quite right to have your say on the matter.. it's annoying when that happens...
Thank you David
Those views are spectacular and all over social media, unfortunately it attracts some reprobates, I often stay at Bridge End Farm down below and take a walk up there. There is always signs of wildfires and you would think rangers would address the problem.
That's it Michael, if the Lakes decide wild camping is out of bounds its game over. Rangers would be out in force. Rubbish thankfully was at minimum but the fire pits were ridiculous mate. Thanks for your comment Michael 👍
Theres no way i would want to camp beside anyone while on a wild camp.As for fires i dont see a major problem especially in winter when theres not much chance of it spreading in the damp climate but it needs to be small and cleaned up properly when finished with the next morning. Personally i dont really bother with them but i do understand that camping and campfires kind of went hand in hand,but there is great off the ground fire pits now that i would seriously advice camper to use and keep the fire off the ground .Most of all we all should respect nature and people's space...
The whole side of the mountain burned to a crisp a few years back. Killing foliage and wildlife. Google it to see the damage. There’s a time and place for fires. Up mountains in the Lake District isn’t one of those places. EVER. Even in fire pits. There’s zero place for a fire up there.
Hi Derrick, thanks for your comment mate. Yeah for me I want to be well away from people like yourself.
I agree with Andy I'm afraid. There's definitely a time and a place for camp fires. I've see first hand the damage it can do. We live very close to the Pennine's, and the moorland changed forever a few years back due to a guy who decided it was a good idea to take a BBQ up there and lit the whole Moors up. It burnt for months, countless wildlife perished, farms lost money, the cost of the emergency services working day and night must have been through the roof! They were using a helicopter constantly to bring in water. Big thanks for watching and your thoughts matey I appreciate it 🙏
@AntSurviveTheNight well summer time fires are just silly and dam right dangerous in such an area.
@derrickmurphy9859 oh for sure Derrick
@@derrickmurphy9859 it is not permitted to light a camp fire or bbq in the LDNP unless at an approved camp site.
Bluetooth speaker playing aga-do on a loop….should get rid of most
I think my snoring did the job mate, they were gone when I stuck my head out the tent at 5.30am lol
Pipe it 😀
At least they were out in the bush..I like to make a small fire when I go camping why the fcuk not if its wet .
You fly drones maybe they don't like that .maybe they don't like you either now when you could of made a couple of new friends 😉
But I agree maybe they could of pitched a bit further away 👍
Thank you Last Pinster, as I've said, all views are welcome. This video was made to help new wild campers learn about the it before stepping out the door. I hope they read each comment and make up their own minds. Thanks for watching and thanks for your thoughts, Ant 👍and mutual respect for all eh!
@@AntSurviveTheNight G'day 😉 I say what I mean and mean what I say 😀
I was kind of winding you up to see if you would bite .but you didn't so you are OK in my books mate 👍
Happy camping 🏕️
EDIT Proverbs 26:4-5 - Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes 😉💪
Bummer, relatable. People in the outdoors with low self awareness are a pain. At least it pushes us further into the wilderness to escape them 😂
It does John, normally I'm away from people but unfortunately this was on my list to visit and as I when mid week I though it would have been quiet, how wrong was I 😆 thanks pal
Agreed, it's difficult enough in this country to find peace away from other people. I'd be cheesed off too. You'll have to get Les her own tent to pitch at the side of yours! 😉
I was really hoping that because it was a week day I'd have it all to myself. Least I've got it done now, won't be back camping that in a hurry. Would do the forest behind for sure. Haha! You really think she would?
Ear plugs in, and leave a radio talk show on all night long.
I always take a radio John 📻
Sorry to hear all that....looks like it was absolutely amazing except for that. Next time call Chris at MCM Outdoors....he'll take care of it for you right away 👈😉 Cheers 🍻
Hey Ted, thanks matey. Hope your well pal, did you enjoy the Eclipse, did you get to see it?
Yeah it was beautiful up there, especially the morning pal. Haha yeah I was speaking to Chris, he was the one who convinced me to stay lol. Thanks man for watching and commenting 🙏
@AntSurviveTheNight Yep, I saw the eclipse. Really amazing. Have a great week & I'll catch you on the next one.
@tedwiley8215 oh brilliant mate, they are something else aren't they mate. You too pal, Friday tomorrow!!
Went looking for that MCM app. Couldn’t find it 😂😂😂
😆 🤣 email him, I'm sure he'll send you a link Des 😄