Atheists - I Have A Challenge For You
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- Опубліковано 24 гру 2024
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Atheists, I am truly trying to come to you respectfully and with humility. I have no desire to call you out or to get into a shouting match in the comments. I do, however, have a challenge for you:
So often Christians and Atheists spend a lot of time debating the plausibility of the resurrection of Jesus. Let's take one step back from that and discuss the Christian claim that Jesus lived a sinless life.
This is a HUGE claim. Not only is it impossible for a human, by their own strength, to live a morally perfect life, but if Jesus DIDN'T accomplish this, He couldn't be the perfect sacrifice for our sins we claim Him to be.
Atheists, if you can find one instance in Scripture of Jesus transgressing the Law, Christians will either HAVE to admit that Jesus sinned OR that the Bible lied. The stakes are massive.
I realize, most of you won't take this challenge seriously because you don't trust the Bible to tell an accurate account that didn't make Jesus seem like a shining star - but this isn't the precedent the Bible has set for itself as a well attested to, historically accurate collection of books from a people with a culture that didn't seem to shy away from showcasing the weaknesses of its' leaders.
Take a genuine look at the first five books of the Bible. Comb through them to try and understand the requirements of the Law. Next, familiarize yourself with the life of Jesus through the Gospel accounts. If you give these works a fair look you will, at the very least, gain immense credibility in the eyes of your believing friends. Possibly you won't find anything new and all you'll be out is your time - but there's also a possibility that spending THAT much time in the Word of God might leave you changed from when you started.
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I think the problem with this challenge is that "the law" is really poorly defined. People disagree over whether the 10 commandments prohibit lies of omission, for example, and that's not getting into how there are 3 different sets of the 10 commandments in the OT. You have to realize that the Bible is a compendium of texts by different authors of different backgrounds with different worldviews and agendas. There is no singular, Biblical definition of the law. There are multiple different, contradictory laws given throughout the Bible that are often ambiguous enough to cause significant disagreements in exegesis. We can invent a theology to inform doctrine and then use that doctrine as a lens to read scripture through if we want to view the Bible as promoting a coherent, monolithic world view, but such a theology has to pick and choose from scripture to justify itself. This is why different denominations have wildly different doctrines, despite sharing the same scriptures. Yet they can all interpret Jesus as promoting and adhering to their specific doctrines. I think that demonstrates that Jesus's sinlessness is a meaningless assertion.
This is not a new challenge. If you really want to understand the position you’re going to have to try harder.
You stroke the egos of your fellow travelers for 10 minutes before you ask a question and then you ask me to search your book of contraditory ferry tales for your magic mate being naughty?
Why in the name of christ would I be interested in your scripture?
I'm an athiest. I don't do magic books or gods.
12 views in 13 hours? hang on to your day job.
I'll keep a screen shot of this for posterity.
Funnily enough, reading my Bible (all of it) convinced me to be an atheist