Biggest reasons IMHO: 1) Expectations are not managed 2) People get hurt too much. 3) The way BJJ is taught is (in most cases) utterly terrible when starting. 4) Few people actually find it "fun" for the long haul.
I just go... feel good? Go. Feel bad? Go. Have an excuse? Make a counter excuse and... Go. Hobbyist, honestly. I'm proud to say competition guys come from other gyms to roll with me... huge honor. I have never cared about the belts, they just come. I have never cared about progress, it just happens. I do show up to learn and work. Oss. Random 40 something purple belt 🤙🏼
Getting your actions separate from your emotional state like that is something people need to aspire to. Sounds like you have the results that come with that attitude! Thanks for sharing your experience with us
@jiujitsujunction 🙏🏼 Edit: Jiu-Jitsu, for me, is golf. My partners are just different courses, and my job is to adapt and choose the best tool for the conditions they create. Sometimes I am the hammer, and sometimes I am the nail... either way, I learn and grow. Wishing you safety and success!
I left because the gym was too commercialised, and belt promotions were attendance based which I don’t like. I’ve now restarted bjj after taking a 2 year break. My new gym is amazing, so so intense and you can instantly tell the difference between both gyms.
Yeah there's pros and cons to the attendance based stuff - it does make it more accessible to people, but it creates dissonance with the merit-based nature of BJJ. I'm glad you found a gym that's a better fit for you! Thanks for the comment and for watching!
Attendance based is by far better than merit-based. Merit-based is far too subjective, and your coach can hold you back, exercise favoritism, etc. Attendance-based makes the requirements for promotion more transparent and not based on someones feelings.
@@user-lj1ed6nd3r respectfully, I disagree. People learn and improve in different speeds, which is fine. I would only want to go from white to blue belt if my instructor knew I deserved it, because my bjj is actually at blue belt level. Attendance for me feels like cheating the system
@@abudibro200 I never said that attendance-based is perfect, but it’s definitely the better out of the two. What if your instructor has to put energy into preparing the comp team? What if you are going to the classes that another instructor is teaching due to not being able to make it to the main instructor’s classes consistently, what if you instructor has a little bit of bias. In life the system approach is always the better option than the subjective opinion approach.
@@user-lj1ed6nd3r well then in that case. It depends on case by case basis. At my gym, the head coach is always there. So your points, whilst being valid in other cases, don’t really make much a of a difference to me and that’s why merit based works well for us.
Trained for 3 years and then covid happened and then job changed and went to night shift and gyms in my town didn’t have morning classes to fit my schedule, was off the mat for 2ish years and a new gym opened up that had morning classes and been back training for about 5 months .
Hi, I come from an impoverished country. People here have no culture, knowledge, or system at all. Most of the time, we just spar. In some ways, it is beneficial, particularly for higher belts, but it is dreadful for novices; they will never learn. Many people have no idea how to get out of a situation like mount, for example. So many individuals have quit. And it moves in a circle. No development at all. Furthermore, people go wild on a daily basis, resulting in numerous injuries. Many people made promises but never followed through. It is really sad. I was considering quitting, but for some reason I stayed. After a lot of experience in the sport, I believe that the most common reason individuals quit is not personal, because if they were weak, they would not even begin, but rather because there is no structure/system in place, and of course, you establish some kind of culture, community... It is not simple, but it is possible with the appropriate leadership, a willingness to learn, and an open mind to new experiences. Perhaps there is hope...
Yeah I’m a fan of have structured learning in general but at the very least for the first 2 years it’s quite important. There’s definitely resources out there for the self learning required countries like yours, only need a couple of people to work through a system to start adding basics to the group. Thanks for sharing friend!
As much as all of the people who stick around say jiu jitsu is for everyone, I find that most people don’t really want to deal with the discomfort and difficulty of training jiu jitsu long term. It’s not even enjoyable for many people lol. There really is a huge turnover especially early on.
All of them to a degree but a whole lot more of “stay safe and move around” type skills. 6 months you’ll start to understand more but you’re still definitely a beginner. Way ahead of zero experience though
@@Pler1978 it’s been two months since far. When a new guy comes only sub I do is a head and arm. That’s like 2% of the time tho. 98% I’m still getting destroyed by higher experience guys
You shouldn’t expect anything. Expecting things that might not happen leads to disappointment. Do your best and expect nothing. Things will happen when they happen
@@jiujitsujunction I don’t think it’s the injury you sustain there are risks in all martial arts 🥋 but from personal experience of others talking about ju-jitsu there are those who feel that the rollers they’ve come across have hurt them through not having enough self control to not decide to vaporise joint ligaments and tendons not in all cases but some where the local club is where I live it’s very much like that of course if your wrapped up then tap for the love of god tap 😂 if your submitted cos you aren’t getting lose if your bested.
Biggest reasons IMHO:
1) Expectations are not managed
2) People get hurt too much.
3) The way BJJ is taught is (in most cases) utterly terrible when starting.
4) Few people actually find it "fun" for the long haul.
Agree with all of those points, that’s why finding good culture and specific schools that are safer is so important. Thanks for the comment!
Don't "chase the belt". Train to get better, and train for the love of Jiu-Jitsu, but don't train for promotion. The promotions will come
Thanks for the comment! It’d be good if more people would think that way about the belts
I just go... feel good? Go. Feel bad? Go. Have an excuse? Make a counter excuse and... Go.
Hobbyist, honestly. I'm proud to say competition guys come from other gyms to roll with me... huge honor.
I have never cared about the belts, they just come. I have never cared about progress, it just happens.
I do show up to learn and work.
Oss.
Random 40 something purple belt 🤙🏼
Getting your actions separate from your emotional state like that is something people need to aspire to. Sounds like you have the results that come with that attitude!
Thanks for sharing your experience with us
@jiujitsujunction 🙏🏼
Edit: Jiu-Jitsu, for me, is golf. My partners are just different courses, and my job is to adapt and choose the best tool for the conditions they create.
Sometimes I am the hammer, and sometimes I am the nail... either way, I learn and grow.
Wishing you safety and success!
That golf thing is a good metaphor I haven’t heard before, might have to use that to explain it to people!
I left because the gym was too commercialised, and belt promotions were attendance based which I don’t like. I’ve now restarted bjj after taking a 2 year break. My new gym is amazing, so so intense and you can instantly tell the difference between both gyms.
Yeah there's pros and cons to the attendance based stuff - it does make it more accessible to people, but it creates dissonance with the merit-based nature of BJJ.
I'm glad you found a gym that's a better fit for you! Thanks for the comment and for watching!
Attendance based is by far better than merit-based. Merit-based is far too subjective, and your coach can hold you back, exercise favoritism, etc. Attendance-based makes the requirements for promotion more transparent and not based on someones feelings.
@@user-lj1ed6nd3r respectfully, I disagree. People learn and improve in different speeds, which is fine. I would only want to go from white to blue belt if my instructor knew I deserved it, because my bjj is actually at blue belt level. Attendance for me feels like cheating the system
@@abudibro200 I never said that attendance-based is perfect, but it’s definitely the better out of the two. What if your instructor has to put energy into preparing the comp team? What if you are going to the classes that another instructor is teaching due to not being able to make it to the main instructor’s classes consistently, what if you instructor has a little bit of bias. In life the system approach is always the better option than the subjective opinion approach.
@@user-lj1ed6nd3r well then in that case. It depends on case by case basis. At my gym, the head coach is always there. So your points, whilst being valid in other cases, don’t really make much a of a difference to me and that’s why merit based works well for us.
Trained for 3 years and then covid happened and then job changed and went to night shift and gyms in my town didn’t have morning classes to fit my schedule, was off the mat for 2ish years and a new gym opened up that had morning classes and been back training for about 5 months .
That’s awesome that you’re getting back to training!
Life definitely finds ways to get in the way - and eventually out of the way of training
Hi, I come from an impoverished country. People here have no culture, knowledge, or system at all. Most of the time, we just spar. In some ways, it is beneficial, particularly for higher belts, but it is dreadful for novices; they will never learn. Many people have no idea how to get out of a situation like mount, for example. So many individuals have quit. And it moves in a circle. No development at all. Furthermore, people go wild on a daily basis, resulting in numerous injuries. Many people made promises but never followed through. It is really sad. I was considering quitting, but for some reason I stayed. After a lot of experience in the sport, I believe that the most common reason individuals quit is not personal, because if they were weak, they would not even begin, but rather because there is no structure/system in place, and of course, you establish some kind of culture, community... It is not simple, but it is possible with the appropriate leadership, a willingness to learn, and an open mind to new experiences. Perhaps there is hope...
Yeah I’m a fan of have structured learning in general but at the very least for the first 2 years it’s quite important.
There’s definitely resources out there for the self learning required countries like yours, only need a couple of people to work through a system to start adding basics to the group.
Thanks for sharing friend!
I'm 32 started last October. Started when was a beginner 8 week course. Started with 8 now just 2 left seen so many come and go already
As much as all of the people who stick around say jiu jitsu is for everyone, I find that most people don’t really want to deal with the discomfort and difficulty of training jiu jitsu long term. It’s not even enjoyable for many people lol. There really is a huge turnover especially early on.
4 stripe now
I'm gonna give it 6 months of consistent training and see how much better I get. What type of skills should I expect to have after 6 months?
All of them to a degree but a whole lot more of “stay safe and move around” type skills.
6 months you’ll start to understand more but you’re still definitely a beginner.
Way ahead of zero experience though
Not good at all some at 6 months can't even really beat brand new ppl...
@@Pler1978 it’s been two months since far. When a new guy comes only sub I do is a head and arm. That’s like 2% of the time tho. 98% I’m still getting destroyed by higher experience guys
You shouldn’t expect anything. Expecting things that might not happen leads to disappointment. Do your best and expect nothing. Things will happen when they happen
I often wonder if it’s because you get wrapped up and injured by a roller who doesn’t have Excercise enough restraint so it puts you off …maybe ?
Definitely something that makes people stop training jiu jitsu. For a lot of people even a small injury risk isn’t worth it. Thanks for the comment!
@@jiujitsujunction I don’t think it’s the injury you sustain there are risks in all martial arts 🥋 but from personal experience of others talking about ju-jitsu there are those who feel that the rollers they’ve come across have hurt them through not having enough self control to not decide to vaporise joint ligaments and tendons not in all cases but some where the local club is where I live it’s very much like that of course if your wrapped up then tap for the love of god tap 😂 if your submitted cos you aren’t getting lose if your bested.
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