@@raynightshade8317 It depends on the relic count. With 2+ relics leitis become op because it lets them kill archers in 2 hits and halbs in 3 hits - something paladins can never achieve. At this point leitis counter everything other than elephants and even trade ok vs heavy camels.
@@israelpazfuentes One of Lithuanians civilization bonuses is: "Cavalry (except the Scout Cavalry line) get +1 attack for each Relic garrisoned in the Monastery, up to +4." In this video, the Lithuanian player didn't have any relics so the Leitis weren't performing even close of their maximum potential.
@@MrDibara No. I just logged into the game to confirm that they didn't. Lithuanians tech tree says "knights and leitis". No scout cav line. The scout cav line had the bonus at the beginning but they nerfed it right away, long time ago.
I really like this unit, it is so satisfying to use. Especially against the units it was intended to use against. *But* these fights dont take equal resources into consideration. Still a strong unit.
"I'm thinking about going a little novelty with anti-cavalry. Perhaps the Genoese Crossbowmen, maybe some camels..." >Leitis shows up< "NEVERMIND~! BACK TO HALBS, IT IS!"
Mameluk obliterated them without buffer units and need to micro. Genoese Crossbowman should be able to overpower them too but needs a buffer units in between them
How to counter Leitis: Don't research any armor, and use the saved resources to make more troops and wipe them out. Then research armor ASAP so you don't die to everything other than the Leitis.
It suffers against trash units in late imperial. Only thing going for the Leitis is it's ability to delete highly armored and gold intensive units. If you pump out raw hitpoints with food and wood the leitis will get swamped. Given equal villager count and worktime on both sides.
@@GoldenRoyal5 They lost to the Teutonic Order, and by a lot, for a very long period of time. It took them nearly two hundred years to finally win... nearly twice as long as it took the British to eventually lose to the French in the Hundred Years' War. And it wasn't Lithuania vs Teutonic Order... it was Lithuania + Poland vs Teutonic Order... basically a 2v1 match. However, the fact that Lithuania was, by this point in time, a Christian country meant that the Teutonic Order had succeeded in their objective of "conversion by force" and had thus claimed victory long before Tannenburg.
Me impressionei que os Leitis ganharam dos arqueiros elefantes e dos elefantes de balistas :o E uma curiosidade: com os camelos flamejantes do final explodindo no final, eles meio que dão um efeito de fogos de artifício pra comemorar a conclusão do vídeo :P
Kkkkkkkkkkkkk, ainda bem que eu deixei essa série pra depois do lançamento desses camelos. Mas sim, bicho. Esses Leitis são sinistros e eu nunca dei muita atenção pra eles.
@@MikeEmpires hehehehe pode crer, vc teve sorte com o lançamento tardio dos camelos flamejantes :P E os Leitis são fodões mesmo, derrotaram até mesmo os até então invencíveis elefantes de balista.
Curiosidade: o termo "Leitis" é uma palavra no singular. O plural dela seria mais ou menos "Leiçiai". (eu dei um leve Google depois que vi essa unidade em ação, totally worth it) 👍
The thing about them is that a) they have fairly high health b) you can increase it with Husbandry c) fairly high damage and d) fairly good cost ratio. None of those stats alone are "blow you out of the water" good, like war elephant health, or the damage, but it's the combination of everything being "fairly good" that ultimately sets them above most other units.
@@MikeEmpires I mean they already melted everything so there is no sense into making it another time. Crazy tho how powerful they are. I would rather see the comparison with the frank throwing axeman. Always same number fights they are the best
Alas this works only when fielding equal numbers. Hence spirit of the law always sets equal ressources in the field - many a thing looks quite different then!
@@spyrofrost9158 +4 from blacksmith upgrades plus +2 from relics, they would at least take 2 relics very easy unless you don't even build monasteries like me
Well it still has all the usual counters, needs to be made at castles, plus it's slightly weaker vs ranged attacks when compared to their paladins. So while it's a very powerful unit ironically it has very situational use. Kinda like how Persian war elephants are the best unit in the game but are rarely seen in competitive play and are more of a liability than a powerhouse unit.
Who else uses an archer units like that? Also, most of the fights aren't nearly fair. In AOE2 same quantity of the units (if we speak about different nations) = completely different amount of the resources spent on them.
I suppose Leitis in the video are witouth 4 relics minimum. What I want to know how thy fare against other unique units with having at least 4 relics because my friend always gets 4 relics. Can you do that video or just answer me which unit can counter them in that case?
The point of Genoese Crossbowmen is to perform better against cavalry than regular archers. Also it did'nt look like these fights were set up with equal resources in mind.
Brokenly overpowered unit. The fact that they defeated all but three other units (even Samurai!) proves how incredibly unbalanced they are, even without their relic bonus. Give them their relics and they'd probably have beaten the mamelukes and Imperial camels, too. Cheaper and much stronger than paladins, with armor ignore. And they've been buffed several times since this video was made. Like, how? Why make an overpowered unit cheaper and stronger?
Ryan Kruse iva said it a thousand times, pikes only scare away cavalry, force your opponent into other units. Any cavalry unit that isn’t cost effectively defeated by camels is borderline cheating
Boa!! Só essa musica que ficou muito repetitiva... acho q vale a pena gravar sem musica, e colocar a musica depois inteira, sem ficar repetindo os primeiros 10 segundos 36x Ganhou um inscrito!
@@whitehavencpu6813 If you are putting fight in large no. then resource gap will also increase giving cats unfair advantage, not to mention that they require castle and also a unique tech
Totaly desbalanced and B R O K E N unit. Ignore samurais antiU-units, vikings with antiCV bonus, Kamayuks, cataphrats, ranged elephantos, mongol's speedfire, etc... etc... without relics . . . But they are the famous and mighty lithuanians Leitis that.... uh, nope... They historicaly knowed by NOBODY. The Leitis ( or Leičiai in Latvian language ) was a social group and soldiers ( ANY tipe of SOLDIER ). this unit was invented by the developers, to try to face teutons and slavs civs... but... broke the balance of all units... medium cav. fucking the bonuses of Samurais or Kamayuks, ignoring of spearlines, devast the heavys cav. of any civ. cataphrats, tarkans, mongols heavys, anythin. They dont have any sense and need a Nerf express now.
Bruh they have their weaknesses, War elephants beat every other unit 1v1 but they aren't considered OP. Liths are very weak early-mid game before castle age, no eco benefits except for the +150 food on start. They also don't get the final armor upgrade for infantry. Easy counter is to send halbs + any archers, they melt leitis very fast.
Against infantry 9.5/10
Against cav 9/10
Against range 9/10
(With relics maybe even higher)
Very strong unit overall
To bad paladins so everything better other than Teutonic knight and Boyar
@@raynightshade8317 It depends on the relic count. With 2+ relics leitis become op because it lets them kill archers in 2 hits and halbs in 3 hits - something paladins can never achieve. At this point leitis counter everything other than elephants and even trade ok vs heavy camels.
@@DommHavai with 4 relics they can take down heavy camels if they attack first
@@peslesfoid1740 they win against generic heavy camel even if they don't attack first, because of the slightly faster attack rate.
@@DommHavai Don't forget the Mamelukes, they can destroy any cavalry.
Imagine those Teutonic Knights gearing up for battle putting on 50 lbs of armor just to get hit through it
I mean... leitis have armor too and almost works like a knight unit with lance. XD
Leitis beating almost everything, without relic bonus
Leitis be like: this isn't even my final form
True 😂😂😂
what is relic bonus?
@@israelpazfuentes One of Lithuanians civilization bonuses is: "Cavalry (except the Scout Cavalry line) get +1 attack for each Relic garrisoned in the Monastery, up to +4."
In this video, the Lithuanian player didn't have any relics so the Leitis weren't performing even close of their maximum potential.
@@shafoz Actually, didn't their recent buff also made the relic bonus work on Lithuanian Hussars as well?
@@MrDibara No. I just logged into the game to confirm that they didn't.
Lithuanians tech tree says "knights and leitis". No scout cav line.
The scout cav line had the bonus at the beginning but they nerfed it right away, long time ago.
Armor: exists
Leitis: it's free real estate
- Teutonic Knights are overpowered in this game
Leitis
- hold my stick
Teutonic Knight: My armor is impenetrable!
Leitis: What is this “armor” you speak about???
I really like this unit, it is so satisfying to use. Especially against the units it was intended to use against.
*But* these fights dont take equal resources into consideration. Still a strong unit.
This. It's quite baffling how many in the comments don't even think about that.
Yeah. The leitis lost against elephants but it's damn expensive to get to elephants.
Best cavalry by far merciless unit
And this soundtrack ...
"I'm thinking about going a little novelty with anti-cavalry. Perhaps the Genoese Crossbowmen, maybe some camels..."
>Leitis shows up<
"NEVERMIND~! BACK TO HALBS, IT IS!"
Mameluk obliterated them without buffer units and need to micro. Genoese Crossbowman should be able to overpower them too but needs a buffer units in between them
Leitis: don't stop me now
Camel and elephant: 😒
How to counter Leitis: Don't research any armor, and use the saved resources to make more troops and wipe them out. Then research armor ASAP so you don't die to everything other than the Leitis.
Only Mamluks could beat them fairly. I'm impressed they could against elephant archers and ballistas. My new fav civ.
03:00 This is why you are here!
These videos are great. Me and my buddy always debate a lot of these things. Keep up the great work!
This unit is officially the best unit in the game.
I doubt that 🤔
@@basilbaby2069 Aside from halbs, camels, and elite war elephants, this unit had no counter
@@Pandadude-eg9li And now imagine:
Lithuanians and Byzantines allied. Plus Italians for GC.
It suffers against trash units in late imperial. Only thing going for the Leitis is it's ability to delete highly armored and gold intensive units. If you pump out raw hitpoints with food and wood the leitis will get swamped. Given equal villager count and worktime on both sides.
yeeeaahh.. but it is 80 gold to make, that really hurts
Only Elite war elephant, Mameluke & Imperial camel can beat Leitis.
very impressive,as expected from Lithuania
Lithuania had not had a strong history to deserve this unit
@@michaelstekelenburg3689 they literally defeated the teutonic order
@@GoldenRoyal5 They lost to the Teutonic Order, and by a lot, for a very long period of time. It took them nearly two hundred years to finally win... nearly twice as long as it took the British to eventually lose to the French in the Hundred Years' War. And it wasn't Lithuania vs Teutonic Order... it was Lithuania + Poland vs Teutonic Order... basically a 2v1 match. However, the fact that Lithuania was, by this point in time, a Christian country meant that the Teutonic Order had succeeded in their objective of "conversion by force" and had thus claimed victory long before Tannenburg.
@@GoldenRoyal5 with poland by their side ahahaha
Oh hi, Please, do 562 Janissaries vs 500 Conquistadors (those 62 extra Janissaries are important)
Yeah i like your idea, i want the same! grettings my good friend :D
Not 561, not 563, 562. Queued.
Conq hype
Ok, these guys are too good. It's sad, but watch them get nerfed in the future.
>they get buffed<
NEVERMIND! WE'RE BACK IN BUSINESS!
They lost blast furnace now
But buff damage for Elite
Dealing with the byzantines, teutons and bulgarians relatively easy - maybe truly they are the best unique unit in the game.
Video is torturously long. Did they lose to anyone? Who?
mamelukes in front line, ballista elephants support in the back
They will lose to any camel civs.. like Indians, saracens etc
What just happened to my precious Cataphracts. You take that back, it never happened!
Leitis, nightmare of Teutonic Knights. Didn’t expect them to beat Ballista Elephants. 👍🏻 Memelukes were like, hold my camel 🐫
yeah, my country is Lithuania and I see that the Lithuanian soldiers(leitis) are one of the best types of soldiers inclusive in the games XD
Can you add a scoreboard in the future 😊
Great idea.
HAHAHA good video, i want jannisaries vs Conquerors please and grettings!!
Janissaries win there you go
Yeah hahaha but it's funny see that Lol
My beloved imperial holy knights fell for those murderers
Funny, since holy knights are way more murderous.
They won basically against everyone except 2 units specifically meant to counter cavarly. Oustanding performance!
Maybe fighting the turtle ships on shallows next time? :)
O_O I am honest-to-God curious now.
03:00 this is how lithuania crushed holy roman empire
Roman Empire (Constantinopla) was deleted by Turkish otomans
@@v1zz4rdr0 do you even know what holy roman empire is???
me a lithuanian finnally happy having lithuania in aoe2 and not only that we have one of the strongest units in the game truly a good time to be alive
When the Leitis have relics
Leitis: AND THIS...IS TO GO..EVEN FURTHER BEYOND
It is laughable how it always ends when the choir starts
The picture of the Leitis looks he is wearing the V for Vandetta mask.
A melee UU that wrecks Samurai.
Me impressionei que os Leitis ganharam dos arqueiros elefantes e dos elefantes de balistas :o
E uma curiosidade: com os camelos flamejantes do final explodindo no final, eles meio que dão um efeito de fogos de artifício pra comemorar a conclusão do vídeo :P
Kkkkkkkkkkkkk, ainda bem que eu deixei essa série pra depois do lançamento desses camelos. Mas sim, bicho. Esses Leitis são sinistros e eu nunca dei muita atenção pra eles.
@@MikeEmpires hehehehe pode crer, vc teve sorte com o lançamento tardio dos camelos flamejantes :P E os Leitis são fodões mesmo, derrotaram até mesmo os até então invencíveis elefantes de balista.
Curiosidade: o termo "Leitis" é uma palavra no singular. O plural dela seria mais ou menos "Leiçiai".
(eu dei um leve Google depois que vi essa unidade em ação, totally worth it) 👍
Leitis are absurdly overpowered. They're like cataphracts on steroids, and those guys by themselves were extremely powerful. So yeah.
The thing about them is that a) they have fairly high health b) you can increase it with Husbandry c) fairly high damage and d) fairly good cost ratio. None of those stats alone are "blow you out of the water" good, like war elephant health, or the damage, but it's the combination of everything being "fairly good" that ultimately sets them above most other units.
@@digitalconsciousness That's my point.
Comparing same number instead of same resources is kind of useless though :(
Do Lithuanian paladins with relics vs every unique unit 👌
Why not with the relic bonus :c ?
I should make a second version adding relic bonus, right?
@@MikeEmpires I mean they already melted everything so there is no sense into making it another time. Crazy tho how powerful they are. I would rather see the comparison with the frank throwing axeman.
Always same number fights they are the best
@@MikeEmpires yes, yes you should
I'm surprised how the melted the Kamayucs,
Same how did halbs do better than them? Aren't Kamayucs basically better versions of halbs?
Alas this works only when fielding equal numbers. Hence spirit of the law always sets equal ressources in the field - many a thing looks quite different then!
shouldn't they have at least +6 attack to be more realistic with their relic bonus?
Their relic bonus caps at +4
@@spyrofrost9158 +4 from blacksmith upgrades plus +2 from relics, they would at least take 2 relics very easy unless you don't even build monasteries like me
Can you please do a video where each civilization can use up to only 1000 resources to create their unique unit. That would really interesting 😃
1000 food, wood, and gold
Up
I had no idea they were so good
what is the soundtrack that was used here
Damn it! Why would you le this unit be too overpowered? I feel like this game is not fair to all civs.
Life is not fair, mass Halbs and you good to go against Leitis.
Well it still has all the usual counters, needs to be made at castles, plus it's slightly weaker vs ranged attacks when compared to their paladins. So while it's a very powerful unit ironically it has very situational use. Kinda like how Persian war elephants are the best unit in the game but are rarely seen in competitive play and are more of a liability than a powerhouse unit.
Who else uses an archer units like that?
Also, most of the fights aren't nearly fair. In AOE2 same quantity of the units (if we speak about different nations) = completely different amount of the resources spent on them.
2:57
and I flamed about the Teutons ...
Is this the Cycle charge unit?
Who did they lose to?
Cool Video
How come some knights with a stick can hurt Teutonic knights?
was this ever nerfed?
I suppose Leitis in the video are witouth 4 relics minimum. What I want to know how thy fare against other unique units with having at least 4 relics because my friend always gets 4 relics. Can you do that video or just answer me which unit can counter them in that case?
Easy...
Halberdiers
@@sanguineaurora8765 also camel civs like Saracen and indians.
...and the saracen kill them all. Something never change
win against everything except camel and war elephant
very demgerous unit
And the ninjas ? Xolotl ? And mounted samurais?
What are mounted samurai? And I guess I could make a xolotl vs all.
@@MikeEmpires mounted samurais are samurái sprite mounted in a huzsar horse
@@rastelmagister Samurai Yumi it's the name and i want the Centurión against ninjas, Xolotl and Yumi samurai!!!
If Genoese crossbow can't beat Leitis then what is the point in Genoese crossbowmen
Fighting inferior cavalry
The point of Genoese Crossbowmen is to perform better against cavalry than regular archers. Also it did'nt look like these fights were set up with equal resources in mind.
No matter ther unit, archers are never suposed to fight cavalry in an open field
make you loss gold and hide behind walls and tanks units
The point of archers was to hide attack from the back lines. GC are strong against any cavalry if u put even few halbs in front of them.
Only 4 losses games wtf
No Japanese samurai ?
Add relics
With Lithuanians, games is very easy every game I taking 4 relic 😂 team game:1500
Brokenly overpowered unit. The fact that they defeated all but three other units (even Samurai!) proves how incredibly unbalanced they are, even without their relic bonus. Give them their relics and they'd probably have beaten the mamelukes and Imperial camels, too.
Cheaper and much stronger than paladins, with armor ignore. And they've been buffed several times since this video was made. Like, how? Why make an overpowered unit cheaper and stronger?
Mameluke are OP
Only against cavalry units mainly.
omg leitis is fucking op
Are you using a color mod?
No, I’m not. Maybe it’s the rendering.
Bad micro bro!
I think u could make age of empires 3
Disgustingly overpowered. How am I supposed to beat them if they re massed?
Lay down and accept your death. Or try to convert them. lol
Ryan Kruse iva said it a thousand times, pikes only scare away cavalry, force your opponent into other units. Any cavalry unit that isn’t cost effectively defeated by camels is borderline cheating
Boa!! Só essa musica que ficou muito repetitiva... acho q vale a pena gravar sem musica, e colocar a musica depois inteira, sem ficar repetindo os primeiros 10 segundos 36x
Ganhou um inscrito!
Valeu, Victor! Valeu pela dica.
Weird attributes
disturbing over powered
They make janissary slow attack rate, weak and expensive. Even take away the infantry bonus. But buff this unit in every aspect. 🤷🏻♂️
FUCKIN OP
Why they beat teutkts and cataphracts? It seems they invencible? What are their bonuses?
High damage, ignores armor
Teutkts have like 10 melee armor so that's like a bonus attack for leitis vs them
@@fernandoaburto7040 Vs them and vs all
Leitis OP confirmed, pls nerf.
Aun así no pueden hacer nada frente a los mamelucos y peor aun si los micrean.
holy shit they beat cataphracts!!!
Nearly every cavalry beat cataphrats they are strong against infantry only, they are not that overpowered tbh
@@justlikeit417 Cats beat the paladins though...
@@whitehavencpu6813 No they don't lmao
Search it up
Also in equal resources they are done for
@@justlikeit417 Ah seems cats only win in large numbers due to trample damage. Kinda similar story with Leitis vs Kamayuks. Leitis win in
@@whitehavencpu6813 If you are putting fight in large no. then resource gap will also increase giving cats unfair advantage, not to mention that they require castle and also a unique tech
No relic huh 🙄
when they will finally nerf this unit... ?
You can counter it with Elephants and Camels. Imperial Camel is best unit for leitis.
Plus Leitis has low health so mass helbs are best option
The most unrealistic and overpowered feature given to a unique unit.
Armor ignore feature was given directly to counter teutonic knights, specifically. Other troops got countered by collateral damage.
broken as fuck, and they are so cheap...
Totaly desbalanced and B R O K E N unit.
Ignore samurais antiU-units, vikings with antiCV bonus, Kamayuks, cataphrats, ranged elephantos, mongol's speedfire, etc... etc... without relics . . .
But they are the famous and mighty lithuanians Leitis that.... uh, nope... They historicaly knowed by NOBODY.
The Leitis ( or Leičiai in Latvian language ) was a social group and soldiers ( ANY tipe of SOLDIER ). this unit was invented by the developers, to try to face teutons and slavs civs... but... broke the balance of all units... medium cav. fucking the bonuses of Samurais or Kamayuks, ignoring of spearlines, devast the heavys cav. of any civ. cataphrats, tarkans, mongols heavys, anythin.
They dont have any sense and need a Nerf express now.
Bruh they have their weaknesses, War elephants beat every other unit 1v1 but they aren't considered OP. Liths are very weak early-mid game before castle age, no eco benefits except for the +150 food on start. They also don't get the final armor upgrade for infantry.
Easy counter is to send halbs + any archers, they melt leitis very fast.