1993-1997 F-150 ignition switch, position issues
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2020
- The most important thing to do is take pictures, and or video every single step you make.
Get a clean towel or something and lay your parts on them in the order you take them out and don’t let anybody near them.
If you lose something you’re screwed, so hopefully you can go to the junkyard and pull an ignition out of an old vehicle or two. I do not know what years are compatible. 
When I reinstalled the steering column I got the gear in the wrong place so the actuator rod needed to be adjusted.
The key must be in the RUN Position in order to push the locking pin up so you can remove the Key Cylinder out.
It's all explained in the Haynes Repair Manual. What's most important that the actuating rod and the Ignition Switch are in the proper location. It's also explained in the Manual...
Good video Sir ..😊
Great video! Re-assembling my 1995 F150 was driving me nuts, this video made it simple.
Thanks!
Thank you sir. I just ran into the same problem and sadly I have not diagnosed it and I've been racking my brain trying to figure this out. I really appreciate this sir thank you so much
You are a LIFE SAVER. Had to replace my 97 ranger actuator in the column. And no videos were specifically for my designs or set up. I had to be very careful and put it all together just for my keys to lockout before starting and only come out in accessory 🙃. I’ll head to my work today and see if this does the trick! Been racking my mind all day and night now about how to fix it!
I just bought a 1996 F250 and the Ignition is always on. This is similar to the 1990 F250 I just fixed. Thanks for the video.
Thaks for posting this, I've been looking for hours to find a video that shows the green washer and the flat metal piece.
An jerk of a mechanic put in a new ignition switch and didn't put in the 2 pieces, "the green washer and the flat metal oblong washer".
Been looking damn near all week for a video like this and you explained it the very best I've seen so far. About to try to put that little gear in my truck tomorrow been having problems with it everyday now and in this 4 degree weather 😂
Can't even begin to express my gratitude for this video. I had to get a new column for my 96 from a junkyard that didn't have keys so had to drill out the cylinder and of course I went way too far and messed up the green plastic and gear behind it, this is EXACTLY what I needed to figure out how to put it all back in and get the gear aligned when I pick up the parts from the dealer, thanks man!
Glad to hear it, by the way... they make stop collars for drill bits that may help if you ever have to do that again.
@@geterdone most definitely. I should have just took my time and taped off on the drill bit but I had been at it for close to an hour and was incredibly frustrated so I just went all out after a certain point haha. Learned my lesson now 30 bucks in extra parts later
Thanks if i didn't come across this i was going to but in a push to start. Have a blessed one
here years later & thank you
This video was a life saver. Was considering a remanufactured steering column until you went through the ignition actuator measurement and location. 30 minutes later.....truck was running and the key could be removed. Thanks again.
BEST instructions yet, I bought a NON running truck and the complete key cylinder was GONE and those items you pulled out & the gear missing, I will have to get these missing parts & I believe with YOUR detail clip I might be able to put it all back together THANKS
I can’t see the website you referenced, looks like UA-cam may have removed your last post. Can you email me the link at thunderknuckles@gmail.com?
@@geterdone Just emailed you the links, you may want to remove your email THANKS
Thank God I found this video I was so tempted to just scrap the car
I just like to figure things out.....you did good Joe....wind blew so hard here, a lady had the same baby...twice!
It's crazy that my crown victoria is placed n the same way but yet urs is a ford 2 lol thanks man ur a life savor
3:40 Beginning of internal parts behind the cylinder
Thanks for this video 👍 I have to say you have lots of patients. You had to be a contortionist to get the good video which had to help to know how to put things back together again 👍 Looked like you did more than what was needed, but it sure helped me see how everything works. I thought you could have put more grease in some areas, but you did a good. Thanks for all your effort and making such an informative video. Three thumbs up 👍👍👍
Nice job filming in the small hole while working on it. Cheers
Man, oh man. I am incredibly thankful you posted this video.
You are a life saver joe
thank you so much for helpful video. now i do hope that i cn fix my 1995 mazda pickup truck
Very good video thank you so much help me fix my truck
Holy crap bro....Thank you so much for this. I gotta do this tomororw!
Good video!! Thank you sir I was about to do a lot of extra work lol
Great detailed video thanks👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks
I believe that line indicator on the underside of the column should line up with the hole in the actuator rod when all is put together. But I could be wrong...
If I did something wrong, please point it out because I’m not quite following what you were saying. My truck has been working properly ever since this repair.
@@geterdonefor the record,; I'm having a similar problem. Only my key won't turn to accessories position. Haven't bothered fixing it yet because for now, I'm ok starting the truck just using the switch.
Anyway, what I was saying was I thought you were on the right track by pulling out the key cylinder, inner parts and the little gear. But when putting it all together, and most importantly, replacing the gear, remember that the key position is technically in the run position. Therefore, the actuator rod and ignition switch should all also be aligned in the run position. The run position for the switch is pretty obvious and easy enough to figure out. And frankly, you can just hold it up against the underside of the column and use the pin on the switch 8:08 to help align the hole in the rod so that it is also in the run position. But, I believe that little metal mark on the underside of the column is suppose to indicate the run position anyway. I'm curious, since you got yours sorted out, did you notice that to be the case?
I didn't type in the time stamp 8:08. I don't know why it's there. Gaht damn auto text!
Thank you so much
The reason it was misaligned was I didn’t notice it changed position when I was working on it and I basically put it together wrong the first time as I recall. I was working on something without instructions basically.
Thank you!!!
How do you think it got out of alignment? Anyways I believe I have the same problem but in my 91 Motorhome powered by a Ford
complex. good job
If your ignition breaks and you need to drive your truck until you can fix it right take the ignition out then take the green plastic thing out then take the little metal peice out then hold your chip key str8 up and down infront of hole then with the other hand take a srmcrewdriver and stick it in there and start your Tru k if it don't start you got the key in the wrong spot move key and do it against will startoncwrhe truck reads your chip TRUTH FACTS
You are awsome!!!
I have a 1994 grand marquis I can put my key in and start it up but I can’t turn it off when I turn the key back ,
Hmm, maybe contact cleaner?
My 98 crown Vic wouldn't start. It has the same type of switch. I've determined something is broken between the tumbler and the switch, possibly the gear. Thanks to you I have an idea of what I need to do to fix the problem. Temporarily, I have the ignition switch mounted remotely so i can drive the car. Did you have to get behind the clips with a pick or did you just pull on the plastic piece to get it to come out? Thank you.
It’s been years and I can’t remember. I think I may have had to pull some of the parts out with a pick at one point.
I have a 93 doing same thing even from the starter switch how did u get too the white box too see if that’s my problem? I mean it’s exactly doing what yours is doing
Remove the steering wheel plastic cover and the plastic trim under the steering wheel. Its below the base of the steering wheel. I looked up 1993 F-150 steering wheel column schematic and the following poped up. (www.steeringcolumnservices.com/exploded-view-results.php?y=1993&ma=Ford&mo=F%20150&d=tilt&c=5065)
It looks like part #11572 on the drawing in the link. Its the tilt column design, you may have to use the menu to select your vehicle.
It's like a puzzle you can't f up or else
I have a 99 powerstroke and I’m going to change the ignition actuator that gear that moves the rod is there any position it goes in ?
Haven’t worked on one but I suspect there is. Take pictures and video as you go disassemble to make sure you can put it back together the same way. Look up ignition repair or replacement for yours on youtube.
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Hello I lost the two washer parts (green and metal). Do you know where I get them?
Call a junk yard first, you may try here www.villagefordparts.com/v-1993-ford-f-150--xlt--5-8l-v8-gas/steering--steering-column-components
I don't know if the part is still made.
I think the old Ford part number may be 3F579 for the retainer, 3E700 for the metal plate called a bearing. The ford parts guy should be able to cross reference the parts to their new system.
And one more thing, if you do find one of these trucks at the junkyard take everything off of it you can afford to buy especially any electrical connectors, wiring harness, pcm, modules like the ABS module (behind the glove box, and inertia switch (behind the interior passenger side plastic kick panel below the glove box on the outside wall by the door), Throttlebody or at least the throttle body position sensor, Cruise control servo driver side up by the brake booster, all chrome parts, and so on. A lot of those parts are no longer made and they’re all starting to get very expensive if you can find them. For an idea just go on LMC website and check for parts. I think just the plastic part that covers the interior of the door is over $200 so I would buy the doors off the truck or better yet see if you can purchase the whole thing
My steering wheel lock up, will not let key turn to start
how do you move the actuator rod? im having the same problem and this is my first time to mess with this and i dont know how to move the rod
Sorry for the late reply, watch the whole video. I moved it by hand. The switch box and lights can guide you. If you have a manual transmission then read up, don’t want to start it on gear and get hurt.
Hi what is the Is metal part that goes on the greenwasher what is that called and will I be able to replace it if it broke In half?
Not sure of the technical term, if you have broken parts then you can go to the dealership and get new ignition lock. If you have your vin number they may be able to give you one that fits your same key. Show them what you have. Otherwise, call a salvage/ junk yard and see if they have one.
The actuator has a master tooth on it for some reason. Do you know why? Thank you
Sorry I didn’t see your comment 4 months ago but I’m assuming if it has a master tooth it’s probably so you can index things, as in get stuff set up at the right point before you start moving things.
My 93 bronco will not start now using the key so I pulled down the ignition ignition switch and it will manually fire up using the little slide bar. I pulled out my lock cylinder and I am missing the green washer. Would that make a difference if I don’t have that? I only have the metal piece? Please answer me back ASAP. Thank you.
Just saw your comment, the green spacer looks like it is necessary because of the metal piece at exactly 5 minutes in the video. The “claws” or tabs on the backside of it probably hold that oblong washer into place and if you don’t put the green piece in it might shift on you and allow the assembly to dislodge and you may or may not be able to turn your key. You might get away with it, but I know car manufactures don’t usually put pieces into mechanisms for no reason.
Maybe you can put it together and get to the junkyard. I hope that helps you and post them here. If you need more information, I’ll try to keep my eye on my phone for a little while.
@@geterdone ok thx. When i hold up the ignition switch in place and turn key it fires up but i can feel the whole ignition switch move a little. the second i screw in 2 torx bolts it wont fire up .
Key was working for a month and half after i put in new duralast ignition switch then all of sudden stopped firing up using key. Works everytime when i fire it up manually pushing metal bar to start truck. Im so frustrated. Bringing it to ford dealer on the 12th.
Alsome video i been fighting this thing for a hour now
My metal piece isn’t flat. Is has a nub on the side that goes towards the gear. I cannot figure out how to get that to slide around the notches in the gear.
Sorry, I just saw your reply, I can’t figure out how to get notifications set up. If you took a video of your issue and posted it into UA-cam and pasted the link here with the question maybe I could watch it and help. I wish I knew how to direct message people on here.
I’m having same problem did you ever figure it out?
Puting that gear and that piece of metal back in the right position was a bitch,after so much frustration and several times i got it to work.
All that work just because some executive at ford aproved those shitty plastic pieces.
It is what it is i guess,thanks for your video sir,it was a lot of help
I have that problem.
How too remove ignition without a key
Where is the starter switch
At the base of the steering column and a little black box where the white plastic rod pushes up and down I think it’s a three or four position selector switch as I recall.
you turn counterclockwise while saying it must be full clockwise..confused
I was probably confused then.
@@geterdone my bad.. two different parts that require closer scrutiny by myself.
🎉 I'm not subscribing to anything man all I need is one time use. Just need to know how to put the car and retainer back in my 9796 Ford F-150