Thanks to this video, I came up with a easier fix for this issue. The "key" is to find a new lock cylinder/key set for your Ford vehicle that has a transponder (the key will have the offset keychain opening), remove that transponder, and replace it with the transponder from your original key. I just did this on a 1999 Ford Windstar with Napa part number ECH KS6742L. Took just a few minutes and works like a champ. Resolved a number of issues including gauges going wild, interior lights randomly switching on and off, and vehicle stalling on the road.
Thanks for the tip. My old Ford is back in action. (If i hold the old transponder key in just the right position while turning the new key it starts and runs great) I think I will next reconfigure the tumblers in the lock cylinder so I can use the old key in the new lock set. Your video was very helpful and got me thinking. I'm going to be looking through your video's for more helpful tips.
I live in a remote Central American village. Dealers and locksmiths aren’t an option. I’m terrified of losing the only key in the country that will start my truck. I can get a non chip key made. If I do this I could have a couple of back up keys. This is very helpful, thanks.
I just changed out my ignition switch and decided to just have 2 keys instead of changing the door locks... it's funny that u said the same thing that I did..."I'll just have 2 keys like the old days!! Lol.. great video!
Yea knew I wished my 2000 F-250 Lariat had a PATS system cuz it's the most stolen truck out here in the west! But I do have 2 sticks that confuse even my freinds, 5 speed with manual 4X4 :) Plus a fuel pump kill switch thst I always use!
Great job! I'm searching how to do this with my Mercedes Metris work van. Bought it used but only came with one key fob. The MB dealers nearby cannot re-key a new fob. Closest one they told me is in DC and I'm near Pittsburgh.
Appreciate this video. Found it to be very helpful to my friends situation. Don't know 5hat it's the cure yet. But I have at least a direction to move im.
Easier solution without a new ignition switch! In my 2007 f150 I just attached the chip key inside the steering column on top of the ignition switch and then it's always there and I use plain keys cuts from the hardware store. No more worries of losing the chip key. It's been over 8 yrs set like this and I've never had any issues
I've got a 2001 Ford Explorer Sport SUV, and it's gotten difficult to turn the key and start. I think maybe it's the ignition switch down on the column, and I'll start there. But if I have to replace the key switch itself, I'll try this.
Without the key, it's gonna be a bit of a challenge to remove the lock cylinder because you're supposed to turn it to the "run" position to remove the cylinder. Then, you'll need to get one of those dorman lock cylinders that includes the chip key and a dongle to plug into the OBDII port and re-program the computer to the new key. Not sure if that's a great idea, or if you should get some locksmith help on this one.... Good luck.
I noticed you have some beeping going on after the vehicle is running. Is it five beeps followed by silence, then repeats 4 more times? If so, the most likely culprit is the air bag warning bulb in the dash is burned out.
Yes, Joseph. You're exactly correct about the air bag warning light and the series of 5 beeps every time I start the truck....and every 30 minutes thereafter! It's a nuisance, but I've not gotten around to fix it....yet....
another option is motocraft's keyable ingnition cylinders. they are more expensive than the doorman option, but cheaper than getting keys programed. it's a good option if you want your doors and ignition keyed alike.
What you need is a VATS Bypass module. It's a pack of resistes that you hard wire into the harness on the Anti theft side of the body controll module. It will fool the computer into thinking the signal is OK and then you can use a standard key to start. If you do this, the bypass module will have 3wires, power ground and 5 volt signal. Put a rocker switch on the ground side of the module, and then hide that in the car. Now you've effectively made a car "disconect" switch. You can leave the key in the ignition, windows open and no thief will be able to start the car. It mimcs an engine computer swap, that has to be programmed by the dealer, and the computer thinks it's being stolen, and disables spark/fuel.
think my mechanic kinda tried doing that but he didnt get it in right place , so we ordered the right chip key & lets say only 11 days to get it going , hey I was getting good gas mileage though . For what its worth somewhere on the switch is antenna for tranponder , yeah like the round plastic part , built in or something , can't remember . My switch was 25 years old . You did good , with towing , parts , programing alot of money
IT WORKS. I HAD A KEY WITH NO RESPONDER. USE KEY WITH *RESPONDER TOUCH KEY IGNITION. USE CAR KEY WITH NO RESPONDER TURNED AND BLEW MY MIND IT STARTED CAR. THIS BLANK CAR KEY ONLT OPENS CAR DOOR. FIRST TIME IT STARTED CAR🎉. YOU CAN'T MEASURE COMON SENSE. YOU JUST HAVE IT.
I'm heading out to replace it now. Problem is, My battery is dead, and no way to recharge or jump it. I'm hoping to see if a neighbor will jump it, because it's a new battery. I hv a feeling this is going to work! I'll let u know. Thank u.
@Buckwsr IT was actually a PT Cruiser Turbo Convertable. And IT WORKED!!!! Got a jump, held the key for now, and after months of no start, I actually replaced the ignition myself (only with your help), jumped it, and it cranked right up!!! Woohoo! Thanks again!
How to remove cylinder when the key will go in, but will not turn? Also, cut rubber housing off old key attach transponder to new key and cover with rubber from old key.
Love the video, love the idea... however, anytime the keys get lost there is no record of a keycode. Decode your new key and write the keycode down near the vin sticker in the door jamb, on the title and maybe in the owners manual. This will save you from having to change the ignition everything the keys get lost.
I took the Ring out of the lock Reinstalled the lock. I zip tied the key in the ring and zipped it to the under steering wheel dash, as I didn’t want to rekey the doors. Now any key keyed will run my truck. I shut it off and the PATs light keeps flashing on dash looking stock. I bought some old Ford Keys and had the hdwr dealer cut them For me. Again looking stock and no one be the wiser.
So I had just bought a 02 Taurus se recently and had a nightmare story to go along with it. I hope to try and figure it out soon if any one has suggestions that would be appreciated. So I started the car fine backed it out of its space and then turned it of. I had went to the store with a friend in his car and upon my return to the car I lost the single transponder key! I couldn’t find it and didn’t trust the people who were around that they hadn’t found it and were lying to me just to then steal my car later when I had left. After destroying the ignition lock colander I had found the key! I had cracked the transceiver and am having a hard time getting the flashing theft light to turn off so I can start my vehicle . Help anyone. Is it a matter of getting a new transceiver?
Hey what do think about it was change & I change the solenoid under the hood against the firewall but SomeXs it start & someXs it doesn’t start,can U give me another solution it could be.. thanks in advance!!
It could be a number of things. For me it was the fuel pump on its way out. I did a video about that here: ua-cam.com/video/3rSUSkrxncI/v-deo.htmlsi=LUqJq1dKNi_I_R__
Yeah, so like I said in the video, you can buy lock cylinders that come with door locks to match and use the same key, but I'm fine with carrying two keys....the original one to unlock the doors, and the new one for the ignition. You know, just like in the old days when GM cars came with two keys, a square headed key for the ignition, and a round headed key for the door locks......
@@Buckwsr yes it is! It's super special to me, it was my Great Grandfather's last daily driver. He bought it in 1991 with about 10,000 miles on it and it now has about 125,000 miles. The engine still runs great! No real body or frame damage. It needs a coat of paint and quite a bit of interior restoration, but my plan is to work on that as I have time and money! I just think it's really cool to have my Great Grandfather's last car! Lots of family history, memories, and stories.
It does not always work, did everything as suggested could not find a spot the chip would work except in the original key with the original cylinder..... my truck is 2002 don't know if that matters.
Nice I paid 80$ year ago for a second Key. Now tumbler are getting worn so I need to get a new set up. I'll probably do this my self as well because one of my Keys is broken and you an see the transponder . The stupid thing is ever car in the past 25 + year has the transponders, so how is it so many cars and truck get stolen ever month?
it's not as good as getting rid of the transponder crap but it's probably the best any of us could do except i'm a little confused, you said the dorman ignition cylinder you bought doesn't have a transponder but the dorman cylinder you linked to not only says it "matches the fit and function of the original equipment assembly" but also says it's special feature is "anti-theft", that sure sounds like the dorman cylinder and keys have a transponder and chips. I desperately need to get around this PATS system, you need 2 chiped keys to program another key but i only have 1 key for this used 2001 ford i bought and i'm not giving a dealer hundreds just to get a back up key, any idea why that lock cylinder say anti-theft????
I just became stranded at the Aldi's parking lot because my 2002 F-150 wouldn't start because of the anti security lock system. It wouldn't reset this time by doing the little trick stated in the owners manual. It worked twice before but not this time. I was hoping there was a way to disable the system. I tried both keys and it still wouldn't start. I'm thinking the problem is somewhere in the computer not sensing the key. I'm not going to pay a tow truck 200 bucks to bring it to the dealership either.
I have a 2008 F150 Ford that I lost the fucking key and the anti-theft will not let it start. How do I bypass it without the key I put a new cylinder in it with a new key that doesn’t have the.
@@Buckwsr Exactly! Your video title is misleading. You still need the chipped key to make this work, whether you cut the chip out or simply stash the whole key or just the head of it inside the column somewhere. Your video title makes it look like you don't need the chip key whatsoever and to simply replace the lock cylinder. I can see why esperanzavaldez5204 asked the question, as for someone who lost their key and did a search, your title makes it sound like the solution is easier said than done. Yeah, you make it known in the video, but you wasted others time if they don't have an original key from the vehicle and are looking for their answer.
I had a 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee I lost the key went to the junkyard and got the PCM and the ignition switch and the ignition key from the same year model vehicle saved big bucks working fine not hard to change the computer module all for around 50.00 bucks 4 screws and a wire harness on the firewall to change the computer module
So technically speaking, if you didn't need a new ignition switch due to mechanical problems, you could have just gotten 2 standard keys cut that turns the switch to all positions, and glue the one good transponder near the reader? Thanks for the idea. We have just one ugly but working chip key. For a really good high mileage car that at best is a $2400 car. Things add up keeping it on the road. If it exceeds a monthly car payment to fix anything, we might part ways. But hope not. Using economy cars their full life is way more environmentally logical than new cars. Secondary parts markets are jobs, too.
Nope, my 1999 Ranger has a Chipped Key, and it only came with 1 key when I bought it. Super annoying, I've been getting bids for making a second chipped key, but the lowest I've found so far is $150. I'm going to have to seriously consider going this route!
Ford used transponder chip keys as early as 1996 on some models. Currently I'm fighting with a 2001 Explorer that keeps locking out the two original factory keys and refusing to start at odd times. Suspect that the transceiver ring itself is not reading and communicating with the PATS module. Key sends codep to ring, ring sends code to PATS module, PATS module talks to Main ECM to enable starting, if key code matches the stored code prestored in ECM memory. I hate it all.
Just pass along to the next owner how this is set up! Would be a big problem if it ever quit working not knowing how it was monkey rigged! Good to go for now! Well done!
My wife told me this set up was hokey, and like you, she mentioned it could be an issue if and when I sell the truck. But yes, I would surely mention this to the next owner. For now, however, I have no intention of selling it any time soon. Thanks.
Now, your truck is ready unsafe, easy to steel it, and since now, you need to use 2 diferent keys, one for the ignition and one for the door.Not ebrybody lives in your little town, the other problem is that Dorma ignition switch cylinder you install, is to bed is not durable. PD I'm a retired certified locksmith with 40 years experience.
🤦♂️Why didn't you just leave the key on the ring With the transponder in the key, it's all you have to do.. You don't have to hide it. Just hangs it on the key ring..
Yes, in my case that would work since I'm keeping the original key for the door locks. Someone changing out their door locks, as I discussed in the video, might prefer to hide the transponder, and then just carry one key. Thanks.
Could have intermittent range problems if dangling, so the method here would be more reliable. Just an FYI: Some later chip keys need conductivity to the metal of the key being used, so it wouldn't work on that type of security that came along in later years. If there's no visible transponder chip mold marks / smaller / later molded into casting, this method might not work. Test by getting a non-chip key cut before cutting open your one key. Some keys won't give up that transponder so cleanly, and if you damage it, you're in worse shape than to begin with. But it's a clever solution. As long as your glue work was done very carefully. If that sucker bounces off ... Woe Nelly! This chip in key is real frustrating to need 2 good keys to add a third. But I'm sure it's stopped millions of stolen cars over the years. I wish I'd made copies back before I lost an original key! It's so simple to make extra good keys when you have 2 good ones to begin with!! And not expensive. I'm guessing a lot of used cars out there on one key was part of the decision to sell when quotes of $500+ to get a set of fully operational keys is realized.
Hard "NOPE" on that one. Wont work, not even when tried by unicorns with rainbows pouring out of their nipples. The transponder has to be less than an inch from the antenna in the ignition ring. For example: on damn near this exact truck, it wont work.
You know this is really stupid everybody has a video where you hide the key inside of the column why don't you try taking the PCM apart and soldering resistor number 1168 to resistor number 1100
The Laws of Unintended Consequences remain in effect, so you'd better hope your truck doesn't get stolen now. This video is all an insurance company would need to deny your claim.
Thanks to this video, I came up with a easier fix for this issue. The "key" is to find a new lock cylinder/key set for your Ford vehicle that has a transponder (the key will have the offset keychain opening), remove that transponder, and replace it with the transponder from your original key. I just did this on a 1999 Ford Windstar with Napa part number ECH KS6742L. Took just a few minutes and works like a champ. Resolved a number of issues including gauges going wild, interior lights randomly switching on and off, and vehicle stalling on the road.
You kick ass! Thanks for the tip. Mine works perfectly
Isnt that what he just did
Buck, brilliant! Also love that revolver cylinder.
Buck the Brain thanks for sharing with all your fans. Excellent idea whish I had thought of it. Thanks Buck.
Thanks for the tip. My old Ford is back in action. (If i hold the old transponder key in just the right position while turning the new key it starts and runs great) I think I will next reconfigure the tumblers in the lock cylinder so I can use the old key in the new lock set. Your video was very helpful and got me thinking. I'm going to be looking through your video's for more helpful tips.
Thank you so much!
I live in a remote Central American village. Dealers and locksmiths aren’t an option. I’m terrified of losing the only key in the country that will start my truck. I can get a non chip key made. If I do this I could have a couple of back up keys. This is very helpful, thanks.
Cool! Thanks for watching the video. What country are you in?
@@Buckwsronce it’s started and you are driving does chip have to stay in close proximity??
And the security that the chip key provided went to hell 😂 fckn Genius🙄🤦🏻♂️
@@angeltoledo8037 what are you talking about?
I just changed out my ignition switch and decided to just have 2 keys instead of changing the door locks... it's funny that u said the same thing that I did..."I'll just have 2 keys like the old days!! Lol.. great video!
I think that was a awesome idea Awesome video thank you
Pretty Slick there Buck.
Relax Buck doing An Amazing Job
Yea knew I wished my 2000 F-250 Lariat had a PATS system cuz it's the most stolen truck out here in the west! But I do have 2 sticks that confuse even my freinds, 5 speed with manual 4X4 :) Plus a fuel pump kill switch thst I always use!
Great job! I'm searching how to do this with my Mercedes Metris work van. Bought it used but only came with one key fob. The MB dealers nearby cannot re-key a new fob. Closest one they told me is in DC and I'm near Pittsburgh.
Fantastic video, stumbled on it by accident but you have gained a new subscriber! Thanks for a fix I hope I will never need, but if I do...
i got the same problem exactly!!!!! thanks ill try it
Appreciate this video. Found it to be very helpful to my friends situation. Don't know 5hat it's the cure yet. But I have at least a direction to move im.
Awesome video thanks for sharing
Easier solution without a new ignition switch! In my 2007 f150 I just attached the chip key inside the steering column on top of the ignition switch and then it's always there and I use plain keys cuts from the hardware store. No more worries of losing the chip key. It's been over 8 yrs set like this and I've never had any issues
My brother did it, and it works
I've got a 2001 Ford Explorer Sport SUV, and it's gotten difficult to turn the key and start. I think maybe it's the ignition switch down on the column, and I'll start there. But if I have to replace the key switch itself, I'll try this.
Thanks, and good luck!
Great comment and instructions… definitely a dollar saved is a dollar earned… thanks for the info…
Can a transponder key be programmed without an original key
Contact a Ford dealership I believe they can.
Ace hardware can do it ive had to (all keys lost) just ask not all can
That's awsone.... thank you... for sharing that's a great idea... 👍
I just changed my lock this am and it wouldnt start now I know why thks
It works, why not? Thanks.
dude you did it like a ptp thumbs up Larry b
Good idea.
Very smart. I lost my key any suggestions?
Without the key, it's gonna be a bit of a challenge to remove the lock cylinder because you're supposed to turn it to the "run" position to remove the cylinder. Then, you'll need to get one of those dorman lock cylinders that includes the chip key and a dongle to plug into the OBDII port and re-program the computer to the new key. Not sure if that's a great idea, or if you should get some locksmith help on this one.... Good luck.
I did this to install a remote start
Glad I saw this - I was going to just swap barrels.
Nice work!
Great idea
I noticed you have some beeping going on after the vehicle is running. Is it five beeps followed by silence, then repeats 4 more times? If so, the most likely culprit is the air bag warning bulb in the dash is burned out.
Yes, Joseph. You're exactly correct about the air bag warning light and the series of 5 beeps every time I start the truck....and every 30 minutes thereafter! It's a nuisance, but I've not gotten around to fix it....yet....
another option is motocraft's keyable ingnition cylinders. they are more expensive than the doorman option, but cheaper than getting keys programed. it's a good option if you want your doors and ignition keyed alike.
What you need is a VATS Bypass module. It's a pack of resistes that you hard wire into the harness on the Anti theft side of the body controll module. It will fool the computer into thinking the signal is OK and then you can use a standard key to start. If you do this, the bypass module will have 3wires, power ground and 5 volt signal. Put a rocker switch on the ground side of the module, and then hide that in the car. Now you've effectively made a car "disconect" switch. You can leave the key in the ignition, windows open and no thief will be able to start the car. It mimcs an engine computer swap, that has to be programmed by the dealer, and the computer thinks it's being stolen, and disables spark/fuel.
Sorry billk9628, but VATS was General Motors, NOT Ford and was discontinued 25-30 years ago. Completely different technology.
Great job pal :-)
Brilliant 🔥
Thank you sir !!
How do you get the tumblers out if you cannot turn the key?
Great information.
Can I do this without replacing the cylinder?
think my mechanic kinda tried doing that but he didnt get it in right place , so we ordered the right chip key & lets say only 11 days to get it going , hey I was getting good gas mileage though . For what its worth somewhere on the switch is antenna for tranponder , yeah like the round plastic part , built in or something , can't remember . My switch was 25 years old . You did good , with towing , parts , programing alot of money
I appreciate the note! Yeah, my new lock cylinder is still working great....and the truck hasn't been stolen yet!!!
@@Buckwsr Forgot to add the importance of putting that cylinder , RUN position , if you dont about impossible to get out without drilling !
IT WORKS. I HAD A KEY WITH NO RESPONDER.
USE KEY WITH *RESPONDER TOUCH KEY IGNITION. USE CAR KEY WITH NO RESPONDER TURNED AND BLEW MY MIND IT STARTED CAR. THIS BLANK CAR KEY ONLT OPENS CAR DOOR. FIRST TIME IT STARTED CAR🎉. YOU CAN'T MEASURE COMON SENSE. YOU JUST HAVE IT.
What about when you lose the key to
My son lost my keys to my 01 gt. I need a chip so i can install this new ignition where do i get one?
Luv it! I would have done the same thing, just because I can.🤠
Exactly, and it is still working flawlessly for me!
I'm heading out to replace it now. Problem is, My battery is dead, and no way to recharge or jump it. I'm hoping to see if a neighbor will jump it, because it's a new battery. I hv a feeling this is going to work! I'll let u know. Thank u.
Thanks for the note, and good luck with the truck!
@Buckwsr IT was actually a PT Cruiser Turbo Convertable. And IT WORKED!!!! Got a jump, held the key for now, and after months of no start, I actually replaced the ignition myself (only with your help), jumped it, and it cranked right up!!! Woohoo! Thanks again!
@@juliebrent4547 Great job! You did it yourself and saved a bunch of money! What a great feeling!
Silicone spray into keyhole ?
No issues??
How to remove cylinder when the key will go in, but will not turn? Also, cut rubber housing off old key attach transponder to new key and cover with rubber from old key.
Love the video, love the idea... however, anytime the keys get lost there is no record of a keycode. Decode your new key and write the keycode down near the vin sticker in the door jamb, on the title and maybe in the owners manual. This will save you from having to change the ignition everything the keys get lost.
A regular key will work on the doors, the chip is only for the ignition. And u r both a genius and a moran for defeating the anti theft mechanism.😂
Moron. You half wit :)
I took the Ring out of the lock
Reinstalled the lock.
I zip tied the key in the ring and zipped it to the under steering wheel dash, as I didn’t want to rekey the doors.
Now any key keyed will run my truck.
I shut it off and the PATs light keeps flashing on dash looking stock.
I bought some old Ford Keys and had the hdwr dealer cut them
For me. Again looking stock and no one be the wiser.
So I had just bought a 02 Taurus se recently and had a nightmare story to go along with it. I hope to try and figure it out soon if any one has suggestions that would be appreciated. So I started the car fine backed it out of its space and then turned it of. I had went to the store with a friend in his car and upon my return to the car I lost the single transponder key! I couldn’t find it and didn’t trust the people who were around that they hadn’t found it and were lying to me just to then steal my car later when I had left. After destroying the ignition lock colander I had found the key! I had cracked the transceiver and am having a hard time getting the flashing theft light to turn off so I can start my vehicle . Help anyone. Is it a matter of getting a new transceiver?
Nice...
Hey what do think about it was change & I change the solenoid under the hood against the firewall but SomeXs it start & someXs it doesn’t start,can U give me another solution it could be.. thanks in advance!!
It could be a number of things. For me it was the fuel pump on its way out. I did a video about that here: ua-cam.com/video/3rSUSkrxncI/v-deo.htmlsi=LUqJq1dKNi_I_R__
Dam nice vid
My key doesn't have the "offset" yours does.
Anyone know where the transponder is in the newer keys?
I have an 08 Ranger.
Not bad ⚡️
Good Idea!
Good.
I think I'll just glue the chip to my new key 🔑
I wonder if you could have just taken the whole key (without removing the chip) and placed in the column where you glued the chip
Know, what do you use to open your door to get in?
Yeah, so like I said in the video, you can buy lock cylinders that come with door locks to match and use the same key, but I'm fine with carrying two keys....the original one to unlock the doors, and the new one for the ignition. You know, just like in the old days when GM cars came with two keys, a square headed key for the ignition, and a round headed key for the door locks......
@@Buckwsryep, my 89 Chevy Caprice Classic has the 2 keys and I never found it to be a big deal!
@@MrNiccholas Great car you got there!
@@Buckwsr yes it is! It's super special to me, it was my Great Grandfather's last daily driver. He bought it in 1991 with about 10,000 miles on it and it now has about 125,000 miles. The engine still runs great! No real body or frame damage. It needs a coat of paint and quite a bit of interior restoration, but my plan is to work on that as I have time and money! I just think it's really cool to have my Great Grandfather's last car! Lots of family history, memories, and stories.
Ha! I vote genius. Thanks for your post.
I like that
It wont work on all makes, one of note is the suburu that wont let you lock your keys in the car if the sensor reads the key in the ignition.
It does not always work, did everything as suggested could not find a spot the chip would work except in the original key with the original cylinder..... my truck is 2002 don't know if that matters.
Mine is still working flawlessly.
Nice I paid 80$ year ago for a second Key. Now tumbler are getting worn so I need to get a new set up. I'll probably do this my self as well because one of my Keys is broken and you an see the transponder . The stupid thing is ever car in the past 25 + year has the transponders, so how is it so many cars and truck get stolen ever month?
I just the stuck key in about the same spot. That way I didn't take a chance of damaging the chip.
Perfect
it's not as good as getting rid of the transponder crap but it's probably the best any of us could do except i'm a little confused, you said the dorman ignition cylinder you bought doesn't have a transponder but the dorman cylinder you linked to not only says it "matches the fit and function of the original equipment assembly" but also says it's special feature is "anti-theft", that sure sounds like the dorman cylinder and keys have a transponder and chips. I desperately need to get around this PATS system, you need 2 chiped keys to program another key but i only have 1 key for this used 2001 ford i bought and i'm not giving a dealer hundreds just to get a back up key, any idea why that lock cylinder say anti-theft????
awesome
I just became stranded at the Aldi's parking lot because my 2002 F-150 wouldn't start because of the anti security lock system. It wouldn't reset this time by doing the little trick stated in the owners manual. It worked twice before but not this time.
I was hoping there was a way to disable the system.
I tried both keys and it still wouldn't start. I'm thinking the problem is somewhere in the computer not sensing the key. I'm not going to pay a tow truck 200 bucks to bring it to the dealership either.
Hi, it might also be a faulty crankshaftposition sensor. Regards
I'd bet if you clipped the two wires at the sensor ring and tied them together, the circuit will be completed without the key chip.
That was amazing ty
Why didn't you put the chip in the new key?
Genius! I will do this on mine.
I say Genius 😂
Of course, you're certainly right on that one!
It will work just tape the chip key near the wire.
Can anyone assist me?
Wtg I'd do the same
I have a 2008 F150 Ford that I lost the fucking key and the anti-theft will not let it start. How do I bypass it without the key I put a new cylinder in it with a new key that doesn’t have the.
Without the key, I think you're going to need the assistance of a locksmith or the Ford dealer, unfortunately.
@@Buckwsr Exactly! Your video title is misleading. You still need the chipped key to make this work, whether you cut the chip out or simply stash the whole key or just the head of it inside the column somewhere. Your video title makes it look like you don't need the chip key whatsoever and to simply replace the lock cylinder. I can see why esperanzavaldez5204 asked the question, as for someone who lost their key and did a search, your title makes it sound like the solution is easier said than done. Yeah, you make it known in the video, but you wasted others time if they don't have an original key from the vehicle and are looking for their answer.
I had a 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee I lost the key went to the junkyard and got the PCM and the ignition switch and the ignition key from the same year model vehicle saved big bucks working fine not hard to change the computer module all for around 50.00 bucks 4 screws and a wire harness on the firewall to change the computer module
So technically speaking, if you didn't need a new ignition switch due to mechanical problems, you could have just gotten 2 standard keys cut that turns the switch to all positions, and glue the one good transponder near the reader? Thanks for the idea. We have just one ugly but working chip key. For a really good high mileage car that at best is a $2400 car. Things add up keeping it on the road. If it exceeds a monthly car payment to fix anything, we might part ways. But hope not. Using economy cars their full life is way more environmentally logical than new cars. Secondary parts markets are jobs, too.
I like the way you think! Good luck with the truck!
Lmao i didn't even know that year had transponder keys thought fords only have them for 08 and up
Nope, my 1999 Ranger has a Chipped Key, and it only came with 1 key when I bought it. Super annoying, I've been getting bids for making a second chipped key, but the lowest I've found so far is $150. I'm going to have to seriously consider going this route!
Ford used transponder chip keys as early as 1996 on some models. Currently I'm fighting with a 2001 Explorer that keeps locking out the two original factory keys and refusing to start at odd times. Suspect that the transceiver ring itself is not reading and communicating with the PATS module.
Key sends codep to ring, ring sends code to PATS module, PATS module talks to Main ECM to enable starting, if key code matches the stored code prestored in ECM memory. I hate it all.
Called dealer today for ignition switch and lock cylinder replacement. $700.
We Can Connect External Chip
Direct To Wires And Remove
Chip From Key.
Amén.
Just pass along to the next owner how this is set up! Would be a big problem if it ever quit working not knowing how it was monkey rigged! Good to go for now! Well done!
My wife told me this set up was hokey, and like you, she mentioned it could be an issue if and when I sell the truck. But yes, I would surely mention this to the next owner. For now, however, I have no intention of selling it any time soon. Thanks.
Now its a 98 F150
Now, your truck is ready unsafe, easy to steel it, and since now, you need to use 2 diferent keys, one for the ignition and one for the door.Not ebrybody lives in your little town, the other problem is that Dorma ignition switch cylinder you install, is to bed is not durable.
PD I'm a retired certified locksmith with 40 years experience.
So you vote genius???
Put mine in hole in plastic cover year's ago so I could make spare keys for about2 dollars!!! So you aren't the only geunus!!!!
Thats good to know because thoes stupid chip keys are over$100 i need to get a spare made and i cant afford it
Why not drill the new key and insert the transponder reverse engineer it...
Well now anyone can just come up and break your ignition and start your truck with screedriver. This has happened to me twice now
I address that possibility in the video, and I feel fine about running that risk.
i see nothing wrong with this
🤦♂️Why didn't you just leave the key on the ring With the transponder in the key, it's all you have to do.. You don't have to hide it. Just hangs it on the key ring..
Yes, in my case that would work since I'm keeping the original key for the door locks. Someone changing out their door locks, as I discussed in the video, might prefer to hide the transponder, and then just carry one key. Thanks.
I think it’s better there now it’s out the way and won’t get broken
Could have intermittent range problems if dangling, so the method here would be more reliable. Just an FYI: Some later chip keys need conductivity to the metal of the key being used, so it wouldn't work on that type of security that came along in later years. If there's no visible transponder chip mold marks / smaller / later molded into casting, this method might not work. Test by getting a non-chip key cut before cutting open your one key. Some keys won't give up that transponder so cleanly, and if you damage it, you're in worse shape than to begin with. But it's a clever solution. As long as your glue work was done very carefully. If that sucker bounces off ... Woe Nelly!
This chip in key is real frustrating to need 2 good keys to add a third. But I'm sure it's stopped millions of stolen cars over the years. I wish I'd made copies back before I lost an original key! It's so simple to make extra good keys when you have 2 good ones to begin with!! And not expensive. I'm guessing a lot of used cars out there on one key was part of the decision to sell when quotes of $500+ to get a set of fully operational keys is realized.
Hard "NOPE" on that one. Wont work, not even when tried by unicorns with rainbows pouring out of their nipples. The transponder has to be less than an inch from the antenna in the ignition ring. For example: on damn near this exact truck, it wont work.
I tried that and it did not work. I wish it had, fore it would have saved me a lot of time.
You know this is really stupid everybody has a video where you hide the key inside of the column why don't you try taking the PCM apart and soldering resistor number 1168 to resistor number 1100
It works on an escort
I would like to see your video about that!
The Laws of Unintended Consequences remain in effect, so you'd better hope your truck doesn't get stolen now. This video is all an insurance company would need to deny your claim.