Before they open to the public, they open to the "press". That's likely when he was there. Having said that, I've no desire to go to the auto show this year. Not until some form of sanity in pricing returns.
@@rcud1 Sir, I'm starting to think you cannot afford any horse on my lot. I do have this camel with a side cart, hell I'll even throw in a fresh set of camel toes, slightly used of course, if you sign here.
lol your are dreaming, my fj cruiser cost more than that in 2008. You simply can’t afford a truck, and clearly don’t need one. If you actually used it the yearly right off for mileage alone would cover more than the monthly payment with zero down and 8 percent interest easily.
I own a '22 Scat Challenger WB. Traded my 21 (for $6k profit) on the special order '22 @ $500 over invoice. Paid the difference in cash. ... I can afford a mini truck. I didn't pay anywhere near $65k for my Scat. GM is smoking something great if they think I'll pay that for a Colorado. 😂 (Edit) I do need, and have a truck. It's a '99 Silverado 4x4 with 125k on it. I paid $2500 for it. It runs like a champ. ... If you have to finance it, you can't afford it. What did that '08 FJ end up costing you?
@ Congrats to your financial success, I suggest come back to reality and understand the abject stupidity of your original comment then as you clearly are too smart to actually believe what you are saying. Once again trucks with far less to offer in every conceivable way were more than 30k nearly 20 years ago. The Colorado Z71 is 42k fully loaded, a very manageable price for a work vehicle. At least a ton of companies believe so as I see them everywhere.
I pay almost 2k for insurance yearly on my old car that is only worth about 6k according to KBB. So in three years I'm paying the value of the car in just insurance. The car was payed off years ago. I'm going to drop comprehensive coverage.
If you are working that truck and making two hundred thousand dollars a year I think that it's a good value But if you're just buying it for looks I don't give it
Just bought a 2006 jeep liberty with 150k for 3k. Runs like a dream. Has a little rust thats repairable by myself, and the 4wd works great. With all the fixes and upgrades, im at less than 5k. The funny thing is what I bought can do the same as all of these $100k cars, get me from point A to point B, and get me around in the Midwest winters.
Mine is 8 years old with 46,000 miles & I'm discovering that parts support has ended in fact if not formally. It's a Chevrolet that was an Opel & Opel is now part of Stellantis. Thinking my next will be Toyota or Honda, probably sooner than I expected when buying this pos.
The only people who get pickup trucks for 29 thousand are companies that buy fleets. Plan Jane trucks, and they come direct from assembly line to the company that purchases them.
Me PERSONALLY….. I just DON’T like ANY of these slick new vehicle with all this UNNECESSARY technology …. Especially the EV’s …. I want NOTHING to do with ANYTHING that has an infotainment system in it EITHER 😒 !
It’s not that bad, especially for me who’s a gen z, I don’t mind having screens in my car, but what matters if it has a gas engine that’s reliable and fun.
Funny thing is, when surveyed the number one thing the new car buyers say affects their decision to buy is the infotainment system. If it was cheap and had everything that it has, statistically most would want it.
@@marcthomas6280who are they surveying? I’m a gen xer and I want a truck that’s reliable, has power to tow and haul with cruise control and a backup camera to hookup to my trailers…simple. Truck prices are absolutely ridiculous now and even for used trucks…I see used diesel trucks with close to 200k miles going for almost 30k!
LMAO!!!!!!! Starting point 29,000 dollars. That model is without Tires and an Engine. Buying vehicles today is a Joke and getting them from a greedy Dealership. Good luck people.
I can afford more, but I REFUSE to pay $30,000 or more for a freaking car. That's why I am keeping my 2012 car ($22,400 sticker, bought it with 16,000 miles and paid $14,000) with 176,000 miles. It still runs like new. Maintaining the car, even when it comes time to replace the engine (My co-worker has 320,000 miles on his, still running like new) I will be farther ahead than paying STUPID MONEY for a new car with tons of stuff on it I don't want but have to pay for, and that stuff is going to break down or go bad. The car I have now doesn't have that stuff (coffee maker, electric dog polisher, satellite tracking software) so it can't fail...yet it still gets me everywhere I want to go, and it's fun to drive.
Escape package with 10 pending recalls, Maserati and Alfa that look like Escape, cringe EV track and 100k ballpark gasoline trucks. What a time to be alive 🤣
Insurance prices are so high which adds to the car payments. Car dealers and Insurance companies hitting hard for middle and lower class people. God bless America 🙏
When Ford introduced the all new Bronco (full size) it was supposed to have a $30k base model offering. Remember? It was supposed to be the killer of the Jeep Wrangler. Today, I dont think you can find a Bronco for less than $60k, they suck...and Jeep has pretty much killed itself, along with the Wrangler.
I like cars, and would attend the city auto show every year, and even once in Montreal because I was there. I then realized that any cars of interest were kept locked, and it was a real effort to get it unlocked, by sales people rolling their eyes if asked to open it. Keeping the riff raff away was the intention. Every year, more and more cars were kept locked. The second thing was, the dealers had the audacity to demand $20 to enter a venue to view cars they want me to buy from them. I haven't been at an auto show in years. . .
@@frostcb2 I haven't seen any Tesla chargers anywhere. Though upon looking it up the closest ones are ~30 minutes or more away from my city. Just this year two general chargers were installed in my city. The first two I ever saw here, and no more new ones that I've noticed. I've never seen any at lodgings which makes overnight trips pretty much impossible.
@@frostcb2Only really applies along major interstates, and definitely not in the wide open Western US. I just did a quick road trip of 1700 miles round-trip.
Paid off 2 cars 5 years ago,I now know I can never afford a new car again....Auto industry may have to be bailed out.Wish the government would bail citizens out! Rent,housing ,food,clothes, necessities,...How can you have a working economy,when we can barely survive? And I NEED a car for my elderly parents...sigh...Thank you for an EXCELLENT VIDEO.I no longer will be going to car show again. I used to love to go every year,after Covid,and these past 4 years....DONE...
Those prices dont add what the dealer adds on like nitrogen and paint protection etc. You will never find those prices. Ask one of the reps there to find you one of any car/truck at the lower price
Bait and switch, bait with the "cheap" model but then you can't find that on the lot, only the more expensive models. These car makers need to stop insulting their customers and start selling vehicles at a reasonable price and profit margin. In China, with real competition the prices just keep falling as the car makers are forced to become more efficient. US$50k for a hybrid Escape, then the cheaper non-hybrid is still overpriced!
These cars are reasonably priced now the issue is the cheapskates that keep on complaining about it. If you don’t like the prices, then don’t buy them or ask for a raise or get a better paying job.
@@RONderluckpeople keep complaining because they want top trims with entry level pricing. I'm not saying that some of the complaints aren't valid, but the constant crying from people who aren't even buying the vehicles is ridiculous.
@ yeah it’s because people have nothing better to do with their life. I am 100% perfectly OK with a base bottle of anything but other people aren’t because it’s all about social status for some reason. I can care less what other people think of me.
I don't understand the hate for electric vehicles. I don't own one, they're not for me. However, I'm not going to hate on anyone who does want one or owns one. To each their own. Why create a division? If I'm missing something, please let me know.
It’s not the fact ppl just hate EV’s. It’s the hardcore push on them. Especially when the infrastructure isn’t set up yet. Don’t push something on ppl that they don’t want. Which means we need a market for ICE and EV. Everyone has different wants and opinions. I like them but do I want to buy one? No. At least not anytime soon.
Yes, you are missing something. NOBODY SAID WE WANT EV CARS. The GUBBERMINT SAID YOU WILL HAVE EV CARS AND LIKE IT! Just like they tried to ram Kamala Harris down our throats. What you don't get is something called FREEDOM of choice. It was what living in America used to be like. Wake up man. THE REASON YOUR AUTO INSURANCE JUST WENT UP IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE EV INSURANCE CLAIMS. HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT?
Do you know what it takes to mine the lithium needed to make the batteries needed for evs? It’s way worse than what it takes to power a traditional fuel powered vehicle. Let’s not get into what those lithium batteries do to the environment when you have to dispose of one of those evs.
Ford is the only company that still offers them, but was there a single supercab at that show? Not another ridiculous, bloated four door with a baby size bed? An oversized, sedan pretending, I want to pretend I’m a truck driver grocery getter? Was there even a single two door, actual pickup there?
They don't make a lot of 2 door extended cabs because they don't sell that well. You and the people that always say this stuff are right there with me and the people who want manual transmissions. They don't sell and we're niche buyers. Time to accept it.
There are actually power outlets in most camping spots so it’s not really accurate lol. The point is you can bring gasoline but not enough power to make a difference when truly going off grid (which almost no one does and there are a million other things to consider that are equally important). FWIW I want both to exist and I would lease a Tesla if the mileage limit was higher.
We can debate about how much manufacturer's greed in in the price points nowadays, but while doing that it's dishonest to not mention the cost of labor nowadays. Nearly everyone supports the UAW when they're striking but the money & benefits they demand costs us end consumers money, not the maker. I recently toured the BMW factory in SC & didn't see a single human employee working on the lines coming anywhere near breaking a sweat. I've abandoned having a truck in my stable & pretty much am on the brink of eliminating anything bigger than a subcompact SUV. I will rent a truck when I need one. Trucks & mid/large SUV prices are completely insane.
see that is where they missed the point, we don't care about 0-60, we want a vehicle that goes 500+ on a charge and can charge on 110 at your home---and costs 30k, built that
@@GoonyMclinuxmost people want what they cant afford. Just like the overpriced houses people are buying to impress their douchebag so called friends 😂
While having my 2016 Honda Accord LX serviced this morning at the dealership, I saw a lifetime $500 nitrogen package on a new 2025 Honda Civic Sport. Unbelievable.
We drive a 2006 Honda Odyssey at 193000 miles, and was considering getting a new car for my family, but these companies have priced out lay people like us. Except for minor problems with aging accessories, Odyssey engine runs smoothly with no major problems. We'll drive it until it dies on its own. Instead we put the money intended for car payments into a high interest CD account
Like I said yesterday Brandon about the Colorado - base price is $29,500 + destination $1,595 = $31,095. That should be the cheapest you can find on the MSRP. My sister has a new Model 3 performance. If you have a sensitive stomach, you may not want to experience the acceleration. It could make you sick.
@@begelston Understood. Most consumers don't know how the car business actually works. All they know is car dealers lie, but they don't know what they are lying about until they go try to buy a car. Some, not even then.
top prices loaded..... 35k for a car.... 50k for truck.... you will sell like hot cakes in the winter! why...... average income is 45k in the US... sure many are making 100k and up...... they are the only ones buying them ..... look at your friends how many are making 100k and up??
Most of my friends are well above $100k and still won't buy these vehicles. We are NOT that vain, nor that stupid. Far better things to do with our money than to give it to an auto maker.
I make 105 and would never consider anything out there right now. I have a 2003 infinity qx4 (suv) and a 96 chevy truck. Less than 10k total invested and have 2 vehicles with less than 100k miles and from a time when they were built to last and cheap to fix
Everybody’s whining about the costs of ice vehicles. Yet they remain clueless to the cost of electric vehicles and the benefits. Get educated or go back to riding horses.😅
Just bought a 2025 Subaru Forrester touring for the wife. Fully loaded, all the bells and whistles. Engine and transmission = JAPAN. Final assembly = Japan. Paid $38k. Probably the best quality vehicle at that price.
Last one I was at was 1995.. remember the trans am up in the air on a wall with the new 5 spoke wheels for 1995 made the car look so much better than the weird 3 spoke 93/94’s…the new hummer 1 the big one Arnold loved and bought was cordoned off couldn’t get near it.. show was cool then in Detroit… but a waste of money to go, I could look at any vehicle I wanted just going to a gm lot for free..
I remember as a kid, probably 17 going to an auto show. The new tj was hitting the market. I remember how tall the step in was, it was red, and around $19k for the loaded Sahara! I was floored, who could afford such an expensive jeep!
my daughter loved Bronco but once we rented it, and drove it, the car sucked so we bought a used Porsche Cayenne 2018 and she loved it, bought for 22k with 80k miles and warrant to 100k, and it had an original sticker of 73k.
It's an rst, rst starting price is not the same as base model starting price. Someone could probably sue. It is false advertising if it doesn't specifically say so.
Honestly, after going to a tesla with FSD, I would never pay over 30k for ANY vehicle that does not drive itself. Just did a Thanksgiving road trip, 1500 miles round trip, and Elon drove 98% of the trip. My skills excel in the parking lots.... 😂
30k for that escape. No thanks. Should be like 20k. We don’t need 30k entry level SUV’s. Low 20’s is realistic. Until that escape is 30% cheaper, everything else will be way overpriced and way too expensive for the normal folk and we are forced to buy overpriced vehicles or not buy anything at all. Thats why there’s millions of cars available currently. Total greed. Corporate greed.
If everyone stop buying new vehicles at the price they are the price will come down I will never pay more than $30,000 for a new vehicle I usually buy a good used 10 year old vehicle !
Ive experienced Teslas. It does nothing for me. Acceleration is cool, but i prefer a Miata on a curvy mountain road. EVs are one-trick ponies. But you do you, dont force EVs on me. Thanks.😊
Thank you for your work. Hopefully, pressure from public and your videos will start making noticeable changes in terms of what is being produced and msrp
I'm not blaming manufacturers or dealers. The one who is responsible for the high prices. Is the consumer. As long as enough people are willing to pay 80 to 140k for a vehicle prices aren't coming down.
More tablet-as-a-dash garbage that people don't want and won't buy. Look at the BMW M340i 2022 dashboard.....perfect. What about the 2023 & 2024? Miss me with that INFINITELY.
I just learned I can no longer buy a car. Apparently the manufacturers don't mind pricing out 75% of the population.
Its more like 85%
More than 75% more like 85%
That’s why you by used. The second you roll off the lot the car loses 40% of its value
@AHadleycell if it's a tesla it's more like 75% lol
@@AHadleycellno it doesn’t lose 40%. Maybe 5 to 10 in the first year.
Cars need to be enjoyable to buy. No one wants to take out a mortgage to buy a car.
If you think cars are expensive now then maybe you should ask for a raise from your employer or get a better paying job altogether.
@@RONderluck car salesman ?
@@IKnewMickey Huh? No.
Cars have never been enjoyable to buy. Worst investment you'll ever make.
@@RONderluck If you think jets are expensive you should start your own business. Just bought a $52mil jet for fun
Owning a horse is started to seem cheap again.
But where are you going to plug it in and charge it hahaha
Just get a bicycle
That is the deadest car show I've ever seen.
Toronto show is multi day, overcrowded.
Before they open to the public, they open to the "press". That's likely when he was there.
Having said that, I've no desire to go to the auto show this year. Not until some form of sanity in pricing returns.
The car prices have gone suicidal.
These cars need to have toilets and a kitchen range because it’s like buying a house
well they are right up there at the same prices as a full size RV.
There are people living in them.
Car mortgages
its going back to the days where only rich folks had automobiles
You will own nothing and be happy ...
Can I interest you in a horse or a rented mule?
That's what "they" want
I'm already starting to scope out horses and buggys too!
@@rcud1 Sir, I'm starting to think you cannot afford any horse on my lot. I do have this camel with a side cart, hell I'll even throw in a fresh set of camel toes, slightly used of course, if you sign here.
That blue Colorado on display is a $30k truck in value.
$65k!? For a mini truck!?
😂😂😂😂
Let em rot.
Off road tires and body kit. Add $30k 👍🏾
Yeah it was a good looking truck but not for $65k it can sit and rot for that amount
lol your are dreaming, my fj cruiser cost more than that in 2008. You simply can’t afford a truck, and clearly don’t need one. If you actually used it the yearly right off for mileage alone would cover more than the monthly payment with zero down and 8 percent interest easily.
I own a '22 Scat Challenger WB.
Traded my 21 (for $6k profit) on the special order '22 @ $500 over invoice.
Paid the difference in cash.
...
I can afford a mini truck.
I didn't pay anywhere near $65k for my Scat. GM is smoking something great if they think I'll pay that for a Colorado.
😂
(Edit)
I do need, and have a truck.
It's a '99 Silverado 4x4 with 125k on it. I paid $2500 for it.
It runs like a champ.
...
If you have to finance it, you can't afford it. What did that '08 FJ end up costing you?
@ Congrats to your financial success, I suggest come back to reality and understand the abject stupidity of your original comment then as you clearly are too smart to actually believe what you are saying. Once again trucks with far less to offer in every conceivable way were more than 30k nearly 20 years ago. The Colorado Z71 is 42k fully loaded, a very manageable price for a work vehicle. At least a ton of companies believe so as I see them everywhere.
55K for a KIA? LOLOLOL we live in a simulation..........
Insane!
LOOOOOK INTOOOO MY EEEEEEYYYYEEEEE
👁
You haven't driven one lately.
KIA's are a lot better than many other mainstream companies. KIA make better cars than Ford for instance.
It's not about how nice it is. It's 55k. It's a KIA.
Bait and switch is way too common in this industry.
Insurance on a $80,000 dollar vehicle is not cheap either....
Plus sales and road taxes on said $80k vehicle adds $10k
Paying insurance is like paying for another car at this point
I pay almost 2k for insurance yearly on my old car that is only worth about 6k according to KBB. So in three years I'm paying the value of the car in just insurance. The car was payed off years ago. I'm going to drop comprehensive coverage.
$29,000 All The Way To $65,000!!!! MORE THAN DOUBLE!!!!! 😮😮😮😮😮 Just downright stupid.
Right? Who do they think they are? Porsche?
It's not going to change
Only 🤡s have been keeping the industry in business
Pay $65k and it’s worth $29k once you drive it off the lot
Even if I could find that well equipped Tahoe for $56K, it's still too much.
If you are working that truck and making two hundred thousand dollars a year I think that it's a good value But if you're just buying it for looks I don't give it
At this point I have completely lost all faith in the auto industry. I’ll just buy an old town car and call it a day. Forget this.
Good choice…it will run forever
Who can afford any of this crap ! It’s all 30-45 percent over priced !!
You know the market is crazy when a Kia is $55k 😂
But also seeing a midsized truck for $65k is outrageous.
Just bought a 2006 jeep liberty with 150k for 3k. Runs like a dream. Has a little rust thats repairable by myself, and the 4wd works great. With all the fixes and upgrades, im at less than 5k. The funny thing is what I bought can do the same as all of these $100k cars, get me from point A to point B, and get me around in the Midwest winters.
Being 4x4, most likely will do better than 75% of the cars out there.
My 2004 jeep liberty had 350k on it when I got rid of it and was still running good. The only problem was a broken valve spring at 200k
I have a 2012 liberty jet. I had to replace the air box and heater core which was 2700 total but other than that it’s been bulletproof
The liberty was a nice looking suv before they turned it into that ugly box looking thing
Glad I have no car payments and a nice reliable 7 year old car with only 88,000 miles.
Mine is 8 years old with 46,000 miles & I'm discovering that parts support has ended in fact if not formally. It's a Chevrolet that was an Opel & Opel is now part of Stellantis. Thinking my next will be Toyota or Honda, probably sooner than I expected when buying this pos.
The only people who get pickup trucks for 29 thousand are companies that buy fleets. Plan Jane trucks, and they come direct from assembly line to the company that purchases them.
Open the hood of a Bronco and imagine trying to service it. A tangled thicket of hose after hose after hose. Engineers on acid.
Open up the hood of ANY new vehicle and it’s a nightmare of hoses and electrical, it’s not just ford
A guy did a fusion engine next to me with the EcoBoost. Holy crap. I work on all makes and models. This is as bad or worse than European cars.
Me PERSONALLY….. I just DON’T like ANY of these slick new vehicle with all this UNNECESSARY technology …. Especially the EV’s …. I want NOTHING to do with ANYTHING that has an infotainment system in it EITHER 😒 !
It’s not that bad, especially for me who’s a gen z, I don’t mind having screens in my car, but what matters if it has a gas engine that’s reliable and fun.
Reliable and fun and needing maintenance heavily and getting terrible mileage. Once all of the fuel subsidies are going away.😅
Funny thing is, when surveyed the number one thing the new car buyers say affects their decision to buy is the infotainment system. If it was cheap and had everything that it has, statistically most would want it.
@@marcthomas6280who are they surveying? I’m a gen xer and I want a truck that’s reliable, has power to tow and haul with cruise control and a backup camera to hookup to my trailers…simple. Truck prices are absolutely ridiculous now and even for used trucks…I see used diesel trucks with close to 200k miles going for almost 30k!
@@ZeusBullyMax what fuel subsidies are you getting now? I’ve never heard of any
LMAO!!!!!!! Starting point 29,000 dollars. That model is without Tires and an Engine.
Buying vehicles today is a Joke and getting them from a greedy Dealership.
Good luck people.
😂😂😂😂😂
Have you tried ordering one online?
They’re not including the freight charge on those stickers. That’s the 2-1.5k difference.
When I look at this car show, I keep seeing Boat Show nonsense.
I was just thinking that. Reminds me of the LA boat show around 2012 era.
Boats are optional though. Cars are really not
For these prices, they better come with a driver.
And free gas for 30 years lol
Or a briefcase full of cash amounting to half the price of the car.
at those prices lifetime warranty tires and oil still would not be worth it jokers
04 jeep wrangler here.. Its original engine lasted 340k miles then went kapoot. Now with a new engine ill see how more miles i can put on it. 😅
I can afford more, but I REFUSE to pay $30,000 or more for a freaking car. That's why I am keeping my 2012 car ($22,400 sticker, bought it with 16,000 miles and paid $14,000) with 176,000 miles. It still runs like new. Maintaining the car, even when it comes time to replace the engine (My co-worker has 320,000 miles on his, still running like new) I will be farther ahead than paying STUPID MONEY for a new car with tons of stuff on it I don't want but have to pay for, and that stuff is going to break down or go bad. The car I have now doesn't have that stuff (coffee maker, electric dog polisher, satellite tracking software) so it can't fail...yet it still gets me everywhere I want to go, and it's fun to drive.
Escape package with 10 pending recalls, Maserati and Alfa that look like Escape, cringe EV track and 100k ballpark gasoline trucks. What a time to be alive 🤣
Insurance prices are so high which adds to the car payments. Car dealers and Insurance companies hitting hard for middle and lower class people. God bless America 🙏
End-stage capitalism
They will be pretty sitting on the lot for a year or more.
What could they possibly add to go from $56,000 to $75,000? $19,000 in add ons.
We could avoid a lot of the bs if we could just order direct from the manufacturer. Say what you want about Tesla but they got that part right.
and boy that truck reliable and fair value!....
Good one buddy.
These prices are stupid high for a vehicle to only last 200k miles. Prices are ridiculous!!!!!!!!!
Who can afford these?
Let em rot!
They will still get bought by rich assholes who probably scammed somebody down the line themselves
When Ford introduced the all new Bronco (full size) it was supposed to have a $30k base model offering. Remember? It was supposed to be the killer of the Jeep Wrangler. Today, I dont think you can find a Bronco for less than $60k, they suck...and Jeep has pretty much killed itself, along with the Wrangler.
Lying about vehicle prices and that their vehicles are affordable is what those auto shows are about.
I like cars, and would attend the city auto show every year, and even once in Montreal because I was there. I then realized that any cars of interest were kept locked, and it was a real effort to get it unlocked, by sales people rolling their eyes if asked to open it. Keeping the riff raff away was the intention. Every year, more and more cars were kept locked. The second thing was, the dealers had the audacity to demand $20 to enter a venue to view cars they want me to buy from them.
I haven't been at an auto show in years. . .
We don't need all the big trim packs...we need affordable cars and trucks that serves their purpose.
They have those. Camry LE, $27k Hybrid getting you over 40 mpg. There's always base models available.
affordable and reliable
You will not own a car and be happy.
Can I get you into this Ford Escort lease for 2k/36 months?
I own 2 paid off cars and paid off motorcycle and very happy
If you can get me a Ford Festiva let's talk.
i mean looks like im sticking with used if we wont ever see sub 20k economy vehicle. im not paying a mortgage for a hunk of metal with tires.
I yelled lesbians when you asked what are around Subarus. Man, was I wrong.
Someone has to open the door for the dogs.
They can add all They want to the price i will not buy one unless the price is in reason
Why'd they put a BMW in the Toyota section? I still can't believe Toyota did that to a great legacy.
A nice collection of unobtainable vehicles I don’t want
EVs are great, if you don't do road trips, if you do the road trip, you're screwed
Not in a Tesla though. Super Charger network
@@frostcb2 I haven't seen any Tesla chargers anywhere. Though upon looking it up the closest ones are ~30 minutes or more away from my city.
Just this year two general chargers were installed in my city. The first two I ever saw here, and no more new ones that I've noticed. I've never seen any at lodgings which makes overnight trips pretty much impossible.
@@frostcb2Only really applies along major interstates, and definitely not in the wide open Western US. I just did a quick road trip of 1700 miles round-trip.
Ok, Boomer. Lemme guess, you think we all have 100 mile extension cords.
Do your phones still have cords, too?
Also it comes with a nomex suit & a large fire extinguisher 🧯.
Paid off 2 cars 5 years ago,I now know I can never afford a new car again....Auto industry may have to be bailed out.Wish the government would bail citizens out! Rent,housing ,food,clothes, necessities,...How can you have a working economy,when we can barely survive? And I NEED a car for my elderly parents...sigh...Thank you for an EXCELLENT VIDEO.I no longer will be going to car show again. I used to love to go every year,after Covid,and these past 4 years....DONE...
Where are all attendees, it looks like a ghost town there?
Maybe was a premier for influencers. 🤷
@@san1eong
Likely a media day
The Subaru dog adoption spot was the best part👍
Those prices dont add what the dealer adds on like nitrogen and paint protection etc. You will never find those prices. Ask one of the reps there to find you one of any car/truck at the lower price
Are you aware that Costco has free nitrogen to fill your tires You don’t even need to be a member Just drive up and fill your tires
Bait and switch, bait with the "cheap" model but then you can't find that on the lot, only the more expensive models. These car makers need to stop insulting their customers and start selling vehicles at a reasonable price and profit margin. In China, with real competition the prices just keep falling as the car makers are forced to become more efficient. US$50k for a hybrid Escape, then the cheaper non-hybrid is still overpriced!
These cars are reasonably priced now the issue is the cheapskates that keep on complaining about it. If you don’t like the prices, then don’t buy them or ask for a raise or get a better paying job.
@@RONderluckpeople keep complaining because they want top trims with entry level pricing. I'm not saying that some of the complaints aren't valid, but the constant crying from people who aren't even buying the vehicles is ridiculous.
Ron is a loser that sells cars so don't listen to a loser 😂
@ yeah it’s because people have nothing better to do with their life. I am 100% perfectly OK with a base bottle of anything but other people aren’t because it’s all about social status for some reason. I can care less what other people think of me.
@@RONderluckget on your knees and suck those inflated prices boi
Step back !! In 2022. I bought a new Chevy car for 13.5 k. It gets 40 ish mpg .. that’s the price point…
Now they cost 18k.
Ever hear the phrase: "You will own nothing, and you will be happy" ?
You are witnessing the implementation of that phrase.
And in Canada, with an exchange, you add 30 cents on every US dollar. Is it any wonder cars are not moving at all in Canada.
And taxes and fees. It’s nuts. Camry SE is 45k.
I don't understand the hate for electric vehicles. I don't own one, they're not for me. However, I'm not going to hate on anyone who does want one or owns one. To each their own. Why create a division? If I'm missing something, please let me know.
It’s not the fact ppl just hate EV’s. It’s the hardcore push on them. Especially when the infrastructure isn’t set up yet. Don’t push something on ppl that they don’t want. Which means we need a market for ICE and EV. Everyone has different wants and opinions. I like them but do I want to buy one? No. At least not anytime soon.
Yes, you are missing something. NOBODY SAID WE WANT EV CARS. The GUBBERMINT SAID YOU WILL HAVE EV CARS AND LIKE IT! Just like they tried to ram Kamala Harris down our throats. What you don't get is something called FREEDOM of choice. It was what living in America used to be like. Wake up man. THE REASON YOUR AUTO INSURANCE JUST WENT UP IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE EV INSURANCE CLAIMS. HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT?
Big oil has instructed Faux News to vilify e-vehicles. Loyal viewers hate whatever they are instructed to hate.
People are insecure and threatened by change.
Do you know what it takes to mine the lithium needed to make the batteries needed for evs? It’s way worse than what it takes to power a traditional fuel powered vehicle. Let’s not get into what those lithium batteries do to the environment when you have to dispose of one of those evs.
I watch your videos while at work towing cars 😂
I assume there are a lot of repos today going on.
Ford is the only company that still offers them, but was there a single supercab at that show? Not another ridiculous, bloated four door with a baby size bed? An oversized, sedan pretending, I want to pretend I’m a truck driver grocery getter? Was there even a single two door, actual pickup there?
They don't make a lot of 2 door extended cabs because they don't sell that well. You and the people that always say this stuff are right there with me and the people who want manual transmissions. They don't sell and we're niche buyers. Time to accept it.
@ Nope, I’m gonna complain about it. 😂
"There's no chargers where you are camping..." Are there gas stations? You and I must camp in different places. 😂
If there is electric hook ups for RVs you can charge an EV.
There are actually power outlets in most camping spots so it’s not really accurate lol. The point is you can bring gasoline but not enough power to make a difference when truly going off grid (which almost no one does and there are a million other things to consider that are equally important). FWIW I want both to exist and I would lease a Tesla if the mileage limit was higher.
We can debate about how much manufacturer's greed in in the price points nowadays, but while doing that it's dishonest to not mention the cost of labor nowadays. Nearly everyone supports the UAW when they're striking but the money & benefits they demand costs us end consumers money, not the maker. I recently toured the BMW factory in SC & didn't see a single human employee working on the lines coming anywhere near breaking a sweat.
I've abandoned having a truck in my stable & pretty much am on the brink of eliminating anything bigger than a subcompact SUV. I will rent a truck when I need one. Trucks & mid/large SUV prices are completely insane.
Union workers are not payed too much, nonunion workers are simply payed too little.
Thanks for keeping us updated
I spit up my drink when you said that particular Colorado was $65k.....WTF
see that is where they missed the point, we don't care about 0-60, we want a vehicle that goes 500+ on a charge and can charge on 110 at your home---and costs 30k, built that
Most people don't want that.
@@GoonyMclinuxmost people want what they cant afford. Just like the overpriced houses people are buying to impress their douchebag so called friends 😂
While having my 2016 Honda Accord LX serviced this morning at the dealership, I saw a lifetime $500 nitrogen package on a new 2025 Honda Civic Sport. Unbelievable.
I'll be driving my 2021 CRV for many years.
We drive a 2006 Honda Odyssey at 193000 miles, and was considering getting a new car for my family, but these companies have priced out lay people like us. Except for minor problems with aging accessories, Odyssey engine runs smoothly with no major problems. We'll drive it until it dies on its own. Instead we put the money intended for car payments into a high interest CD account
Hi Brandon, enjoy your content 😊
I like how now the base price includes just one color, and any other color is extra.
Maybe, if I didn't pay more than 6-figures in taxes, I'd be in the market for one of these...
Like I said yesterday Brandon about the Colorado - base price is $29,500 + destination $1,595 = $31,095. That should be the cheapest you can find on the MSRP. My sister has a new Model 3 performance. If you have a sensitive stomach, you may not want to experience the acceleration. It could make you sick.
I already found a whole bunch on Autotrader for under 30 K that are actually $7000 off MSRP and there’s no other incentives other than that
The problem is that consumers are looking for an OTD price of $29,500.
@@begelston Understood. Most consumers don't know how the car business actually works. All they know is car dealers lie, but they don't know what they are lying about until they go try to buy a car. Some, not even then.
@ only uninformed in stupid people would think that
Don’t forget the tire nitrogen and tinted window add ons.
top prices loaded..... 35k for a car.... 50k for truck.... you will sell like hot cakes in the winter! why...... average income is 45k in the US... sure many are making 100k and up...... they are the only ones buying them ..... look at your friends how many are making 100k and up??
Most of my friends are well above $100k and still won't buy these vehicles. We are NOT that vain, nor that stupid. Far better things to do with our money than to give it to an auto maker.
If you make $100k you buying a $75000 or even $50K car making $100k you're dumb. I agree with you.
I make 105 and would never consider anything out there right now. I have a 2003 infinity qx4 (suv) and a 96 chevy truck. Less than 10k total invested and have 2 vehicles with less than 100k miles and from a time when they were built to last and cheap to fix
Everybody’s whining about the costs of ice vehicles. Yet they remain clueless to the cost of electric vehicles and the benefits. Get educated or go back to riding horses.😅
Zues your a clown 🤡
EXCELLENT tour!!! Thank You!!
71k for the Toyota land Cruiser vs a 2 door Bronco for 71k....... Ford has lost thier minds
If you think the companies that got bailed out and gave themselves bonuses care? Lol
I honestly never understood these comments. The government destroys the value of your dollar and Americans blame the corporations.
It's wild.
Just bought a 2025 Subaru Forrester touring for the wife. Fully loaded, all the bells and whistles. Engine and transmission = JAPAN. Final assembly = Japan.
Paid $38k. Probably the best quality vehicle at that price.
We need for prices to go way, way lower. Hopefully the bubble will pop within the next 2 years.
My mother got a 4 bedroom, full basement. 3 story home In Annapolis, Maryland for 59 thousand
Let that sink in.
Thanks for the auto show tour. I haven’t been to one in years.😊
Nowadays there’s no point. Overpriced vehicles half as reliable as 10 years ago.
Last one I was at was 1995.. remember the trans am up in the air on a wall with the new 5 spoke wheels for 1995 made the car look so much better than the weird 3 spoke 93/94’s…the new hummer 1 the big one Arnold loved and bought was cordoned off couldn’t get near it.. show was cool then in Detroit… but a waste of money to go, I could look at any vehicle I wanted just going to a gm lot for free..
The “smile you’re on camera” sign next to the Daddy’s money cars 😂
Simple. Maximum stupid level greed. 😮
I remember as a kid, probably 17 going to an auto show. The new tj was hitting the market. I remember how tall the step in was, it was red, and around $19k for the loaded Sahara! I was floored, who could afford such an expensive jeep!
my daughter loved Bronco but once we rented it, and drove it, the car sucked so we bought a used Porsche Cayenne 2018 and she loved it, bought for 22k with 80k miles and warrant to 100k, and it had an original sticker of 73k.
I spent $32K on my last new car and I thought that was a lot. 🤑
There is no point in manufacturing vehicles that give dealerships higher margins, if no one is going to buy them.
It's an rst, rst starting price is not the same as base model starting price. Someone could probably sue. It is false advertising if it doesn't specifically say so.
@4:36 SO JUST SO YOU GET THE UNCENSORED TRUTH; WINDOW STICKERS & THE NUMBERS ON VEHICLES MEANS ABSOLUTELY "0." 👿
My wife and I are both Subaru owners, I'm on my third in 18 years. I've never owned a dog. Not all of us are dog owners.
Shame they can't build most engines without needing headwork before 100k
Work trucks were basic an affordable not now no one can buy no 🤑 Toyota hops comes out with their IMV small truck said will be sub 20K😮
All i need is lights for movement on my mirrors and a backup cam.
Honestly, after going to a tesla with FSD, I would never pay over 30k for ANY vehicle that does not drive itself. Just did a Thanksgiving road trip, 1500 miles round trip, and Elon drove 98% of the trip. My skills excel in the parking lots.... 😂
30k for that escape. No thanks. Should be like 20k. We don’t need 30k entry level SUV’s. Low 20’s is realistic. Until that escape is 30% cheaper, everything else will be way overpriced and way too expensive for the normal folk and we are forced to buy overpriced vehicles or not buy anything at all. Thats why there’s millions of cars available currently. Total greed. Corporate greed.
Standard dealer bait and switch tactics.
If everyone stop buying new vehicles at the price they are the price will come down I will never pay more than $30,000 for a new vehicle I usually buy a good used 10 year old vehicle !
Ive experienced Teslas. It does nothing for me. Acceleration is cool, but i prefer a Miata on a curvy mountain road. EVs are one-trick ponies. But you do you, dont force EVs on me. Thanks.😊
Thank you for your work. Hopefully, pressure from public and your videos will start making noticeable changes in terms of what is being produced and msrp
I'm not blaming manufacturers or dealers. The one who is responsible for the high prices. Is the consumer. As long as enough people are willing to pay 80 to 140k for a vehicle prices aren't coming down.
Yeah, someday, these people will stop doing these high prices. You know dealerships know the prices are too high.
Alot of trust fund babies running around. What a time to be alive to have to compete with the non worker
It’s sad people are dumb enough to pay that much.
Folks need to check their insurance policy to see if you have enough liability coverage
More tablet-as-a-dash garbage that people don't want and won't buy. Look at the BMW M340i 2022 dashboard.....perfect. What about the 2023 & 2024? Miss me with that INFINITELY.
Funny how they NEVER have the starting price models. Like. Anywhere, ever.
You can order one through the manufacturer i believe.