Don't forget the struggle, Don't forget the streets, Don't Sell Out! Simple enough right... what the fuck are we doing Brother's and Sister's....??? PMA
)nyhc with involved more are whoThat's true, also I feel like people ( give enough credit to drummers like Felix Griffin (DRI), Chuck Biscuits(DOA, Black flag, and Danzig), bill stevenson( and Reed Mullin(COC)
Both current Cro-Mags are good, but put the two Tazmanian Devils on one stage and you have the explosion on the cover of Age of Quarrel made real, this is simply f u c k i n g a m a z i n g. Hope those two dudes sort out their issues one day and be amazing like this again.
Just saw a picture of a young Harley Flanagan at a punk concert in Aarhus, Denmark from 1978. 10-11 years old. From when he lived there with his mother. It's in a book by Danish radio presenter and photographer Jan Sneum. RIP
I just saw the cromags recently and they still play the songs with same intensity like it was 1986. There was crazy stage divers (myself included) and good ol hardcore dancing and people just having a good time nobody starting shot with anyone. Even without Harley they still bring it harder than most bands younger than them.
Saw the Cro-Mags in Reseda back in the day. Huge fights between Sharps and Nazis. For once Suicidals were outnumbered... I got kicked hard in the teeth. That's how shows used to be.
Saw these guys at Groezrock last year, Pit was pretty much the same. No barrier either, stage dived and everything! Nothing wrong with a good festival man!
I agree with that. Small pit scenarios are hardest. The thing that changed though was that people were really mean in the 80's pits. The sense of musical community on the floor hadn't developed. Festival pits are a totally new thing with their own dynamics like weather. I've been in some weird pits with bands like Crash Worship but I think huge concert experience is not so good. Smaller groups enjoying something local yet twisted is better.
I would know that guitar tone anywhere! Rocky George kicks ass! Too bad he's no longer with Suicidal Tendencies. They suck without him! Cro-Mags rule!!!!!
Lost my shoe at a show when I was 15. Got my toes broke and it sucked. My older skin friends laughed and pointed to their steel toed boots. Been wearing them ever since. And I'm 53 now.
Yes. this is an unmixed recording with the levels for the house PA... the bands cabinets on stage added to make a fuller sound in person. I am not just saying this because I worked at CBGB for years... I also played in a band and toured in cities around the world and never had a better sounding room of that size than the way CBGB sounded CBGB was renowned for its fantastic sound... not just in the room, but on stage for the band Record labels often showcased new bands there for the press... not just because of the history of the venue, but because of the great live sound
@@BrendanSFA no!!! I'd never block you man. Were on different sides of the spectrum politically but I'd never do that. I got off that thing cause it made me sick to see the bullshit fakeness and the political divide. Be safe man and happy new year
Hey Brendan, I'm pretty sure I worked stage that night. I remember being on the side of the stage by the snake holding mic cable, keeping them from getting pulled out....lol Cheers Petey
MVD (the company that out the DVD) doesn't care about quality. When I saw that a DVD of this show was released I thought they got a hold of a copy of the version I filmed. It looks like they just used a single cam with crappy microphone audio. They could have used my multicam stereo audio version if they wanted because I gave a copy to John Joseph. ...but I guess they didn't ask him either.
Not sure what I said to you , but Rocky obviously did some shows with them , but their is a long list of stand ins, due to John and Harley fighting and both claiming the band , hell I saw them in 94 or 95 , just John and Mackie , the guitar player and bass player I dont know , I did not know they played again till I seen this
Important to remember Bad Brains were a PART of hardcore, they didnt invent it. Dont forget about Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, DOA, Misfits, Minor Threat etc etc etc. These bands were all considered 'hardcore' compared to Clash/Pistols/Ramones punk. Agnostic Front was well before CroMags in this heavier wave of hardcore, and the Cro-Mags took it to yet another level of mayhem. All great bands...
Yeah, I had an older brother that first introduced the music to us before we were teenagers. We were too young to understand most of what it was other than knowing it was a rebellious &underground type of music. At that age there isn't any money to check out the bands, even had we known they were putting all-ages shows. I kept with the music throughout all these years-seeing new trends on the national and international scale and seeing tons of local bands come and go.Too bad it all sucks now.
The bass tone after hitting someone with it is just incredible lol On some real shit wish these 2 guys would set aside the bullshit, seeing this show you get why the CRO-MAGS were a powerhouse.
How is this the only comment mentioning this!? I guess years of being buried under the weight of Harley and Johns beefs/bad press but it’s insane either way.
John Joseph and Harley Flanagan: The Mick Jagger and Keith Richards of Hardcore.
Deth Films Inc, 1986 with more stabbing
Word.
Don't forget the struggle, Don't forget the streets, Don't Sell Out! Simple enough right... what the fuck are we doing Brother's and Sister's....??? PMA
@@jessicavaeth7840 PMA!
Not really! There were never ever a Rolling Stones without one of them! They always sticked together. Not like these two Egolomaniacs!
Is it me or those drums sound dank AF? That snare...
Makes you want launch off stage!
That snare fucking cranks!
I was thinking the same thing...
)nyhc with involved more are whoThat's true, also I feel like people ( give enough credit to drummers like Felix Griffin (DRI), Chuck Biscuits(DOA, Black flag, and Danzig), bill stevenson( and Reed Mullin(COC)
@@ianmcsorley2580 who's drumming in this vid?
Both current Cro-Mags are good, but put the two Tazmanian Devils on one stage and you have the explosion on the cover of Age of Quarrel made real, this is simply f u c k i n g a m a z i n g. Hope those two dudes sort out their issues one day and be amazing like this again.
Harley and jon?
Awesome.
That ship sailed a long time ago unfortunately.
It’s just can’t be done.
@@stewartjohnson1232Sad but true.
Wow! Cro-Mags the band of the people! White, blacks, yellow , everibody there and partying! Cheers from brazil!
dafni simone yesssssss
dafni simone yesss
That's what NYHC is all about.
DOUG HOLLAND WAS THE COOLEST DUDE. I MET DOUG IN CHELSEA BACK AROUND 2015, AND WE SPOKE FOR ABOUT 2 HOURS, GREAT GUY, DOWN TO EARTH. 🤘🤘
@@krisfernald1011 F A C T S
I wish hardcore was still this good man! I’d kill too be at a show like this!
Rocky George from Suicidal ! Nice extra
You have no idea how much I appreciate your comment. Thank you!
EAST COAST HARDCORE CRO MAGS ARE #1 // WEST COAST HARDCORE SUICIDAL TENDENCIES #1💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Do they do weddings?
..fuckin lol....
Epic!
Often times without even being asked
😂
😂😂😂😂
I saw these dudes in San Antonio, TX. back in 88 or 87 & they killed it!!!
When that transition hits between world peace and show you no mercy, that's where you feel the fucking hype.
I was lucky enough to see the Cro-Mags 3 times in Detroit in the 80's.
The first show at the Graystone on Michigan Ave was UNBELIEVABLE.
saw them in Paris in 1985...kickass show!
I'm very glad the person landing with their butt on my head at 6:55 is preserved on the internet. This was such a great show.
Just saw a picture of a young Harley Flanagan at a punk concert in Aarhus, Denmark from 1978. 10-11 years old. From when he lived there with his mother. It's in a book by Danish radio presenter and photographer Jan Sneum. RIP
I just saw the cromags recently and they still play the songs with same intensity like it was 1986. There was crazy stage divers (myself included) and good ol hardcore dancing and people just having a good time nobody starting shot with anyone. Even without Harley they still bring it harder than most bands younger than them.
cmon this is heaven this is real music
mufo zomby yesssss
5:38 malfunction is one of my favorite songs ever!
Best concert ever! Cro mags 1987 markthalle hamburg.never before and again saw that energy.
I miss my hardcore days the best shows I ever been at
best hardcore band of all time!
the best by a fucking long shot, i can't say anyone even comes close
No Bad Brains...No Cromags...
@@vantablackwarship7199 This!
@@xollop306 ?
lol wtf
Saw the Cro-Mags in Reseda back in the day. Huge fights between Sharps and Nazis. For once Suicidals were outnumbered... I got kicked hard in the teeth. That's how shows used to be.
Country club ?
Reseda!!
I remember them days, Reseda Country Club! Whaaat!
Home of Ralph Macchio
@@jamescaliendo1030 Daniel Larusso moved there from Newark.
@@euroyankee2003 ok yes.. his new home lol
This is why hardcore should only be played in clubs, you don't get pits like this at festivals.
Saw these guys at Groezrock last year, Pit was pretty much the same. No barrier either, stage dived and everything!
Nothing wrong with a good festival man!
Same in Britain. The O2 venues are over controlled. The bouncers don't do a lot of good. We can look after ourselves, thanks.
I agree with that. Small pit scenarios are hardest. The thing that changed though was that people were really mean in the 80's pits. The sense of musical community on the floor hadn't developed. Festival pits are a totally new thing with their own dynamics like weather. I've been in some weird pits with bands like Crash Worship but I think huge concert experience is not so good. Smaller groups enjoying something local yet twisted is better.
Yah people punched and kicked each other on purpose to do damage. You don’t see that as much
Charles Williams: crash worship was amazing. Saw them 3 times in San Diego in mid 90s. They were a completely unique experience.
I was never into beating each other. I enjoyed the music thoroughly
i have never seen them live but they put on the most energy shows ever CRO MAGGS YES YES YES
alltime-top-three-hardcoreband! simply excellent! hardcoreheaven!!!
Flanagan actually is an underrated songwriter. It's a pity John and him got into differences.
Parris wrote the best stuff
parris wrote virtually everything on age of quarrel, best wishes, alpha omega, and revenge.
Rocky George. Double like!
BrendanSFA, thx for posting, this kicks ass! Would love to see the rest!
Harley Flanagan!!!
3:40 AHAH
Some of the internet's best content!
I recorded the full sets of both nights.
Ahhh the good old days when the bands and music were right in your face not behind a barrier.
Man, wish I was there. These are my favorite kinds of shows.
Haha, obviously recorded before JJ became an Ironman
Great stuff. I was sitting right next to Doug's amp during his first show with the Cro Mags at CB's. The first song was...We Gotta Know. Incredible.
Doug is Mad cool👍👍🤘🤘
Ill be filming them at The Snowmobile Club in Holden, Maine this friday. 09/13/24 I'll definitely be uploading their full set to my UA-cam channel.
Incredible show. Almost speechless!
That's more like it!! Looks freakin crazy
FUCK YEAH!!! The only problem is the volume doesn't go up loud enough.
I would know that guitar tone anywhere! Rocky George kicks ass! Too bad he's no longer with Suicidal Tendencies. They suck without him! Cro-Mags rule!!!!!
People sitting ON STAGE...good ol times. These days you gotta stand 9 ft away from the stage and its called the front row.
Garry "G-Man" Sullivan on drums! The only guy who can fill Mackie's shoes
+NWH83
BIG ups to that!!! G-Man..., WHEW!!!!!!
Best drummer they ever had
Pete Hines as well don't sleep on best wishes
MACKIE RULES IN STREET ART🤘🤘
Lost my shoe at a show when I was 15. Got my toes broke and it sucked. My older skin friends laughed and pointed to their steel toed boots. Been wearing them ever since. And I'm 53 now.
Saw CM 2x before I went into military in 86 Lamours BKLYN NY
Band Peace can't be done.
hahaha I saw Cro Mags , and hung out and talked to John Joseph , can you say that , John is awesome
One of the founders. Others will follow. NYHC forever.
Great sound btw.
Greets from the old continent.
Cyberpost13 ♥
Greets back to you in the BK.
Did cbgb really sound THIS good? I mean Jesus. That snare sounds like a gun shot cutting through everything else. So tough.
Yes. this is an unmixed recording with the levels for the house PA... the bands cabinets on stage added to make a fuller sound in person.
I am not just saying this because I worked at CBGB for years... I also played in a band and toured in cities around the world and never had a better sounding room of that size than the way CBGB sounded
CBGB was renowned for its fantastic sound... not just in the room, but on stage for the band
Record labels often showcased new bands there for the press... not just because of the history of the venue, but because of the great live sound
That's Gary Sullivan. Used to drum for Parliament....
@@BrendanSFA good to see you again Man. Hope all is well.
@@jamescaliendo1030 thanks. likewise. Glad to see you're still kicking. When you dropped off fb, I was worried, but then I figured you just blocked me
@@BrendanSFA no!!! I'd never block you man. Were on different sides of the spectrum politically but I'd never do that. I got off that thing cause it made me sick to see the bullshit fakeness and the political divide. Be safe man and happy new year
03:44 *smacks dude with bass
04:17 “Yo lisa get me my other bass”
perfection
the power is so raw. so many people that understand the truth
Powerful!!
thanks for posting this gem!
Great energy🔥🔥🔥
good times, Real Hardcore !!
THAT SNARE DRUM SOUND MAKES ME GO MAD!
Wish to be there ...
The epitome of hard core! I absolutely miss these kinds of shows...the fuckin good old days!
un live endiablé des geniaux Cro Mags !
fucking sick!miss those days!
Hey Brendan, I'm pretty sure I worked stage that night. I remember being on the side of the stage by the snake holding mic cable, keeping them from getting pulled out....lol
Cheers
Petey
RIP cbgbs
respect from Italy...hc
Really needed this!!!!!!!!!!
MVD (the company that out the DVD) doesn't care about quality. When I saw that a DVD of this show was released I thought they got a hold of a copy of the version I filmed. It looks like they just used a single cam with crappy microphone audio.
They could have used my multicam stereo audio version if they wanted because I gave a copy to John Joseph.
...but I guess they didn't ask him either.
Glad to say I was here!
Jason Us woww
Tight as shit despite the chaos. Just remember...September 11th. was coming up this year. "World Peace" in fuckin deed!!!!
Is that DOUG HOLLAND IN THE DARK TANK TOP?
Doug easily the coolest guy on that stage✊🏻👍🏻
cro mags are the forgotten masters of hardcore. is that really RG from suicidal?
+jason bates
Yes, it is him.
Yes, it is Rocky still plays in the cromags
Yup!
Not sure what I said to you , but Rocky obviously did some shows with them , but their is a long list of stand ins, due to John and Harley fighting and both claiming the band , hell I saw them in 94 or 95 , just John and Mackie , the guitar player and bass player I dont know , I did not know they played again till I seen this
3:26 War inside my Head riff! Go Suicidal Rocky George! I don't know who came up with that riff first Rocky or Parris
Pretty sure i was here. Different times!
NYHC- unmatched!!
SLAMMING Show🤘🤘💥💥💥💥🤘🤘
gooooood old hardcore!!!!
Raw energy
That was Zander Schloss in the American Hardcore documentary. He has done many things since Circle Jerks that could hardly be called "washed-up".
One of the best NYC bands. VERY influential. Classic. Too bad nothing lasts.
And who was Malfunction dedicated to?
Woa.. Rocky George (ex S.T.) on guitars????
Yes. He was and is.
Rocky fucking George.
slantyrock Cool thing is in Show you no mercy, he gets to play War inside my head ;)
Show you no mercy does have riffs similar to War Inside my Head anyway
absolutely insane
so much better live!
Important to remember Bad Brains were a PART of hardcore, they didnt invent it. Dont forget about Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, DOA, Misfits, Minor Threat etc etc etc. These bands were all considered 'hardcore' compared to Clash/Pistols/Ramones punk. Agnostic Front was well before CroMags in this heavier wave of hardcore, and the Cro-Mags took it to yet another level of mayhem. All great bands...
Brad Ley I hope you’re joking.
Yeah, I had an older brother that first introduced the music to us before we were teenagers. We were too young to understand most of what it was other than knowing it was a rebellious &underground type of music. At that age there isn't any money to check out the bands, even had we known they were putting all-ages shows.
I kept with the music throughout all these years-seeing new trends on the national and international scale and seeing tons of local bands come and go.Too bad it all sucks now.
ChargerBullet yesss
The bass tone after hitting someone with it is just incredible lol
On some real shit wish these 2 guys would set aside the bullshit, seeing this show you get why the CRO-MAGS were a powerhouse.
great great great line-up with HF JJ and Rocky !!!
Rocky fits so well in the Cro-Mags
Rocky George!!!
great
Reunion 2020 !!!
R.I.P. Dave
The best! NYHC forever!
Almost a month before Sept. 11
A real blast lol...
But Parris was missing so....
How is this the only comment mentioning this!? I guess years of being buried under the weight of Harley and Johns beefs/bad press but it’s insane either way.
that geezer got whacked with the bass hahahaha
If you watch closely that guy stomped on someone else who was just crowd surfing hahaha he earned that shit
hell yeah!!
Rocky george!
John looks like he's going to have a heart attack.
Harley could run circles on everyone at this show.
gooood!!!!
Ahh the days pre 9/11. A different time
Pre 911/ PRE COVID/ New York needs some Love, This city been through some shit!!!!