Great video as usual and a good filter! I have one in my Red Sea Reefer 350 and it works well for the most part, I've had the waste roller sleeve slip but a bit of super glue and that was resolved. No modification to the sump itself, I just made a bracket out of some .220 acrylic. It's a bit rough but it works, I am currently working on re-designing the bracket and printing it on my 3D printer in ABS.
So far from the R2R forum we've determined that 2 Klir's will fit inside a Trigger 39 sump. The only modification would be to take out the removable sock tray and make a new one from a small acrylic sheet from Home Depot. The Trigger 20 cube sump requires widening the top opening to fit the Klir in and the tray swap as well. No word on the Trigger 34. I was hoping that they would've taken most popular sumps into consideration instead of just their own Icecaps. Who wants to have to permanently alter their beautiful, and expensive, sump? It is what it is. I'm waiting for the next revision that addresses most of the common problems before investing in 2 of these with my Trigger 39. But it's a step in the right direction over filter socks for sure. 😀
Thx for the update, I didn’t think so, without allot of modifications, the openings and the 1 1/2” needed to activate the sensor, Red Sea reefer only has 1/2” overflow!!
I can say when I first saw these on your site I was super excited. Seems like the perfect option for me to replace my socks with. I've been waiting for a good video on them from you guys and this one did answer some of the questions. I'd really love to see a far more in-depth video on them and see you address some of the reviews I've seen on your site about them not rolling up properly or the fleece breaking etc. I really want to buy a pair... but I just don't have good enough information to do that at this point.
There are two other fleece filters I'm aware of and one is available now, called the Clarisea. There's another in Europe in development called the Xfilter, which is very interesting. It's not just a sock replacement filter, but because it uses very small micron fleece, it's also being touted as a nutrient reduction method. The designer says typical particulates in the water are as low as 9 micron (the Klir is 50). So the filter pulls most of the particulates before they can break down. There definitely is more info needed on these units as a whole, but a step in the right direction for less maintenance.
If i didnt have my redsea media cups id switch right away but gotta say if your stuck with socks consider redsea media cups. CHEERS brs great video as always guys :)
The point of the rollers isnt cost; it is time invested in maintenance. The biggest problem our tanks is reefers habits to start letting regular maintenance slide after a long period of time, especially when the tank is doing well or life gets busy. These rollers are designed to be maintenance free for the majority of the time. The designer stated his original prototype needed to have floss rolls changed every 3 months on his 200 gallon large fish system. So for us reefers maybe that is every 2 months we put in a new roll and every 6 months we give it a quick vinegar bath to keep it operating smooth. I will also add there is alot of hidden costs in socks we dont see such as power consumption and bleach to wash the socks as well as dechlorinator such as prime if you decide to go that way. Not to mention having to change wet socks every 2-3 days which makes a mess no matter how careful you are. Plus you have to store wet socks for a week or 2 or 3 until you get enough to make washing them worth while. If you only have a couple and wash by hand this takes alot of time as well. Personally I am waiting for the 7 inch to come out and will be putting one in my sump.
i was wondering, what if our sumps have spaces for THREE filter socks? does it defeat the purpose if you have 2 other sock holes and just one of the Klir Filters?
My tank came with a built in wet/dry sump that I hate but can't remove. Either way, I'm wondering if maybe I removed the bio balls that the water drains over, could I install one of these with the bracket there? Would it be effective since it would only be capturing a fraction of the water? (I'm not sure if it would be actually capturing any though, as the water level sits pretty low.
I would love something like this that fits my Nuvo 40. The maintenance on the filter socks drive me nuts because the only time I have for maintenance of my tank is on Sundays and I have a million other things to do like cook clean house and do laundry for the week before working a hundred plus hours during my work week. Have we seen anything in the works for the AIO crowd?
Any idea if there are any roller mat systems that would work in any of the nuvo fusion tanks? Being that these style tanks all have the filtration on the back of the tank rather than a sump, it would be nice to get rid of the filter socks. Thank you
I been running these since they got released . I was very excited but after running for a while now there are still flaws. Going to have to modify the two I have to be able to make them run without problems.rolls bind up and optical don't always work correctly.
While I don't own one of these, a lot of folks on the forum suggest having the optical sensor facing the less turbulent side of the incoming water, away from the turbulence that can cause the sensor to misread water levels. But I agree, a revision shouldn't be far off, lol.
Two Klirs will fit in a Trigger 39 but you need to take out the removable sock tray, because the 3 holes don't line up, and make your own 2 hole tray to stick in there instead. You can check out Reef2Reef and look for the thread titled "Thoughts on the Klir Filter." Another user shows pics of 2 Klirs in his 39 and the only mod needed is to replace the tray.
@@retroreefs7986 Home Depot, for example, sells a 20 x 32 inch acrylic sheet for $19. Though I think you may need the Klir(s) beforehand as a template of sorts to make a perfect cut. Some water may bypass the unit, but nothing significant. Good luck 😀
Does anyone know why the hell trigger systems make their filter sock holders oval shaped????? I tried google for answer to no avail...Is there any functional reason at all for this non-standard design????
great idea, but this product was its truly a piece of garbage!! this piece of equipment has been my worst reefing experience of 2021. literally every single part was defective. this was the last time, will never purchase another coralvue product ever again since they don't care at all about quality control. kinda surprised BRS still sell this considering the massive amount of issues the majority of its purchasers have experienced.
Great video as usual and a good filter! I have one in my Red Sea Reefer 350 and it works well for the most part, I've had the waste roller sleeve slip but a bit of super glue and that was resolved. No modification to the sump itself, I just made a bracket out of some .220 acrylic. It's a bit rough but it works, I am currently working on re-designing the bracket and printing it on my 3D printer in ABS.
So far from the R2R forum we've determined that 2 Klir's will fit inside a Trigger 39 sump. The only modification would be to take out the removable sock tray and make a new one from a small acrylic sheet from Home Depot. The Trigger 20 cube sump requires widening the top opening to fit the Klir in and the tray swap as well. No word on the Trigger 34.
I was hoping that they would've taken most popular sumps into consideration instead of just their own Icecaps. Who wants to have to permanently alter their beautiful, and expensive, sump? It is what it is. I'm waiting for the next revision that addresses most of the common problems before investing in 2 of these with my Trigger 39. But it's a step in the right direction over filter socks for sure. 😀
They need one for the AIOs!
Thx for the update, I didn’t think so, without allot of modifications, the openings and the 1 1/2” needed to activate the sensor, Red Sea reefer only has 1/2” overflow!!
I can say when I first saw these on your site I was super excited. Seems like the perfect option for me to replace my socks with. I've been waiting for a good video on them from you guys and this one did answer some of the questions. I'd really love to see a far more in-depth video on them and see you address some of the reviews I've seen on your site about them not rolling up properly or the fleece breaking etc. I really want to buy a pair... but I just don't have good enough information to do that at this point.
There are two other fleece filters I'm aware of and one is available now, called the Clarisea. There's another in Europe in development called the Xfilter, which is very interesting. It's not just a sock replacement filter, but because it uses very small micron fleece, it's also being touted as a nutrient reduction method. The designer says typical particulates in the water are as low as 9 micron (the Klir is 50). So the filter pulls most of the particulates before they can break down. There definitely is more info needed on these units as a whole, but a step in the right direction for less maintenance.
If i didnt have my redsea media cups id switch right away but gotta say if your stuck with socks consider redsea media cups. CHEERS brs great video as always guys :)
Many thanks, Randy for the great review!!!! I am still stuck on either 2 Klir's DI4's or 1 SK-5000 Clarisea roller mat in my CL-44 Synergy sump.
The video showed the 3rd gen Eshopps sumps as being compatible. But would the filter also work with a 2nd gen Eshopps R-300?
Have you ever made the cost comparison of using sock vs the roller and buying replacements for a year.
I bet socks will win
firedustflame That may be true but I personally would pay double/triple to not have to swap socks every few days and clean them.
The point of the rollers isnt cost; it is time invested in maintenance. The biggest problem our tanks is reefers habits to start letting regular maintenance slide after a long period of time, especially when the tank is doing well or life gets busy.
These rollers are designed to be maintenance free for the majority of the time. The designer stated his original prototype needed to have floss rolls changed every 3 months on his 200 gallon large fish system. So for us reefers maybe that is every 2 months we put in a new roll and every 6 months we give it a quick vinegar bath to keep it operating smooth.
I will also add there is alot of hidden costs in socks we dont see such as power consumption and bleach to wash the socks as well as dechlorinator such as prime if you decide to go that way. Not to mention having to change wet socks every 2-3 days which makes a mess no matter how careful you are. Plus you have to store wet socks for a week or 2 or 3 until you get enough to make washing them worth while. If you only have a couple and wash by hand this takes alot of time as well.
Personally I am waiting for the 7 inch to come out and will be putting one in my sump.
Time is money. Roller would definitely win in my eyes.
Your hand is much cheaper to use, but toilet paper has a convenient factor to it at a cost differential.
@@delxmax what a disrespectfull answer, how old are you? 8?
i was wondering, what if our sumps have spaces for THREE filter socks? does it defeat the purpose if you have 2 other sock holes and just one of the Klir Filters?
My tank came with a built in wet/dry sump that I hate but can't remove. Either way, I'm wondering if maybe I removed the bio balls that the water drains over, could I install one of these with the bracket there? Would it be effective since it would only be capturing a fraction of the water? (I'm not sure if it would be actually capturing any though, as the water level sits pretty low.
well my shopping cart total went form 500 to 800 but heck it does it for me lol
I would love something like this that fits my Nuvo 40. The maintenance on the filter socks drive me nuts because the only time I have for maintenance of my tank is on Sundays and I have a million other things to do like cook clean house and do laundry for the week before working a hundred plus hours during my work week. Have we seen anything in the works for the AIO crowd?
100 hours a week?! Damn, I hope for your sake you love your job.
Any updates? This is me rn
Does this fir with wtaerbox marine X/DX 110.4?
I'm using one in my waterbox 100.3 for about two months with out any issues solid and convenient products I'll add a second one eventually.
JLV82 Thanks for posting this comment! I am waiting on my 100.3 to be delivered and was wondering if the sump would allow for the filter.
Any idea if there are any roller mat systems that would work in any of the nuvo fusion tanks? Being that these style tanks all have the filtration on the back of the tank rather than a sump, it would be nice to get rid of the filter socks. Thank you
None that we're aware of...yet!
I been running these since they got released . I was very excited but after running for a while now there are still flaws. Going to have to modify the two I have to be able to make them run without problems.rolls bind up and optical don't always work correctly.
While I don't own one of these, a lot of folks on the forum suggest having the optical sensor facing the less turbulent side of the incoming water, away from the turbulence that can cause the sensor to misread water levels. But I agree, a revision shouldn't be far off, lol.
Would this work in a innovative marine lagoon 25 ? Maybe with a little modification
Randy have you heard what the ETA is on the 7" model? I am using 7" filter socks in my sump
ETA on the 7in and will they make a stand alone bracket for them
Randy what video did that DIY sump come from i'd like it for reference with new reef folks in my community.
Thanks must get more people addicted to the hobby! ;)
I purchased two of the di-4 and I need the di-7 .
Do you know when is the 7" one available ?
Thank you.
BulkReefSupplyCom thank you .
Let us know when it’s does ;)
Will this fit in my 34 trigger system randy?
Would this work on the IM Nuvo 30L
Can this work in the JBJ 65 AIO?
Unfortunately, there aren't any rollermats out on the market today that work on AIO tanks without some major modification. Hopefully someday!
Great review
doubt id be modifying the klir to be hones more then likely just modify the reefer slide in holder .. holesaw or mark it out cut and sand ..
Is there any way to fit these to an innovative marine all in one tank?
We've not seen anyone do it yet. Would likely need quite a bit of modification to get it to work.
Hey Randy am I mistaken ? I believe my trigger 39 Sump has 3 round holders? I believe the 2 sock systems are oval??
Your the best.
Two Klirs will fit in a Trigger 39 but you need to take out the removable sock tray, because the 3 holes don't line up, and make your own 2 hole tray to stick in there instead. You can check out Reef2Reef and look for the thread titled "Thoughts on the Klir Filter." Another user shows pics of 2 Klirs in his 39 and the only mod needed is to replace the tray.
Forsaken 77 thank you
BulkReefSupplyCom I’m emerald and going to order 2 of these filters and do the diy and see how it goes. Thanks for the help everyone
@@retroreefs7986
Home Depot, for example, sells a 20 x 32 inch acrylic sheet for $19. Though I think you may need the Klir(s) beforehand as a template of sorts to make a perfect cut. Some water may bypass the unit, but nothing significant. Good luck 😀
dose it work on bash-sea SS-48
We've not tried using it on that particular sump, but looking at the photos, I don't see why it wouldn't work.
How about the skimz sumpro up21?
Thanks for the video! I have a question for #askbrstv...
Does BRS high capacity gfo lower alkalinity? How much and for how long? Thanks!
Does anyone know why the hell trigger systems make their filter sock holders oval shaped????? I tried google for answer to no avail...Is there any functional reason at all for this non-standard design????
Seems like people get lazier and lazier!
I wonder why sumps are so simple to make. Cost less than 50 dollars to damn near buy and build, but you guys, charge above 200.
great idea, but this product was its truly a piece of garbage!! this piece of equipment has been my worst reefing experience of 2021. literally every single part was defective. this was the last time, will never purchase another coralvue product ever again since they don't care at all about quality control. kinda surprised BRS still sell this considering the massive amount of issues the majority of its purchasers have experienced.