Jeep XJ Clutch Install and a Noisy AX15 and NP231
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2022
- After some insane vibrations on the Jeep I had no choice but to pull the drive train for inspection. The transmission and t-case have done over 20 years of service with pretty low mileage but large tires and a high suspension lift. My first thoughts were the clutch but sadly the transmission itself had some excessive wear that would require a rebuild if used again.
I was lucky that my spare engine came with a low mileage AX15 and Np231J that have seen no offroad uses and were largely unused for many years. The condition of both were much better and with the new clutch and refaced flywheel have made a huge difference!
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Jeep Spec:
1999 Jeep Cherokee XJ 2.5TD RHD.
Summer Tire - 35x12.50r15 BFG KM3's with 15x8 3.75" backspacing (-19 offset).
Winter Tire - Cooper Discoverer ST MAXX Por Studded 35x12.50r15 BFG KM3's with 15x8 3.75" backspacing (-19 offset).
Lift Front - RC 4.5" Coils and N2 Shocks (3" Coil Spacer).
Front Shock Bar Pin Eliminator.
Dana 30 High Pinion with Artec Industries Lower Control Arm Mounts with modified upper mount and modified Track Bar mount.
Front RC Control Arm Drop Bracket.
Ruff Stuff Short Arm Single Himes.
RC Extended Sway Bar Links.
Dana 30 Rock Crusher Diff Cover.
Ruff Stuff One Ton OTK Steering.
6" Lift Drop Pitman Arm.
Ruff Stuff Front and Center Frame Stiffeners.
Rear DIY Frame Stiffener and Rear Frame Tie in Kit.
6" x 2" Box Rocker replacement with Tube Slider.
Modified Factory Bumper with Side Sliders.
Rear Tow Hitch Tire Carrier that bolts into Rear Frame Tie in Kit.
Modified upper Shock Crossmember for Rear Shocks
Rear Axle Chrysler 8.25 29 Spline with modified High Clearance Shock Mounts.
Rear Shocks 6.5" Trailmasters.
Rear Leaf Springs 5.5" Rubicon Express
Rear RC Shackle Relocation Bracket.
Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines front and back.
Warrior 9500lb Winch.
Front Bumper - Ebay Custom Made. - Авто та транспорт
Holy crap! It's been 30+ years since I've seen anyone hand stone a flywheel.
I've just watched this again as I'm just gathering parts to do the same job.
I especially like the intro.
Haha yeah that was a bit of a nightmare doing all of this, bit it happens. Hope the job goes well!
There are very few experiences in life as rewarding as having a transmission slide home after convincing yourself that something must be seriously wrong. Your expression was a total money shot!
I would be in similar pain if I did an oil change. Great job, totally repsect.
"And he awoke ,but to his great dismay, the realization of his reality had reached waaay back and slapped the vision of grandeur from his eyes and the sweetness of bliss from his mouth. With a howl of anger and despair he gave in to his heart's new desire and slowly released the jack supporting the weight of ol jeepy, dropping the mass of steel upon his weary and now deflated skull, quietly removing the existence of his once glorious life from the drudgery of owning a jeep."
Is how it could've gone, my friend! Glad you persevered and triumphed over your Goliath!
🤣 its all ture! I'm glad to be back on the road. What a chore
Hey man love the videos. I’m so sorry but so glad to see somebody have to suffer like I did putting my ax15 in by myself with just a floor jack lol. 😂 glad it went somewhat safely for you man. Good luck and have fun camping!
23:24
That look of triumph!!
lol at the opening .. and trying to wrestle a Gearbox & transfer box in place on your back with a pair of Jacks .. i've been there & you have my sympathy & admiration
You blow my mind the stuff you get upto with your jeep 👍🏴
Hell yeah! What an awesome vid. Angles and pacing and humor all played out well. Hope you have a relaxing few weeks cheers!
Ive said it few times lately, but i absolutely love your humour mike.. cracks me up 😂
you sir are a true jeep'r alot of people would have given up by now
Thanks mate, this last job nearly broke me. Especially that the rear main seal is still leaking lol. But whatever its been leaking for the last 7 years and at lest its not as bad now. Took it for a spin and listened to the turbo while the jeep kept pulling. Made me smile
@@WorkshoptoWilderness yea budday that turbo is one of the best sounds 💪
keep at er u will be in the bush before u know it
top job
I watch every recording :) it's nice that there is someone who also took VM: D
It really goes to show the magic of yt when you said it took you 3 hours to level that flywheel and it was less than a minute in a video.
Yeah exactly. It was a shit ton of work
Great job though! 👏🏻
Nice video dude, that is a really tough job to do…thanks for the humor and the upload..:)
Man I can't believe it. After watching quiet Mike assemble a small shelter with nothing but wood and a knife, here I am years later and watching him dual wield some sharpening stones to machine his flywheel using a drill and a vice and some optimistic safety glasses. Jesus.
Try your hardest to believe the obvious. We all age and have other interests outside of what's captured on video. Sometimes we also do dumb shit or we like doing things for ourselves with basic stuff because it gives us a sense of self achievement. I thought that was most people
@@WorkshoptoWilderness definetly meant it in a humorous sense. Long time fan. Tone of my comment wasnt broadcast well enough 🤣. All the best. Love your videos!
@@N_ickoutwest I thought you were trolling me, sorry my bad. I get now and then since starting this channel, almost like I left the church of Jehovah. Thanks for watching!
Holy smokes getting the transmission/transfer case in looked like a bear! Good job on it all, looks great and hopefully performs well.
It drives like a dream mate, god I hope it stays that way. Rear main seal is still leaking though.....ffs
Great Job again Mike 😉.
I did it last year to.. but different way.. Took a big wooden barr 20cm large and 3cm tick. about 1.80m long. fixed with straps onder the engine to use it like a sliding ramp. so. could i slide the gear box completely on his place. it was even tricky..laying under the jeep. but its worked out 😊
That sounds like a smart idea! Man what a job. I prey I don't have to do it again soon
Yes Mike. and the bad thing from this gearbox is that small bolt in front at the Top!!! hope you fpund that to! Because iff you unscrew al mouting bolts arround and start pulling of that gearbox from the flywheel bracket it can brake of! but meby the next generation from the XJ diesel.(after "95) dont has that small bolt? any way. i forgot to say this; i also used a clicker strap. to pull the compleet gear and diff box in to his place. i did my job on sandy bottem. realy bad as land 😢. but okay. the job was done! i took a performed quality Clutch disk from SACHS. well. Mike hope to seen more Vids soon. and enjoy the time with your parents! 😉
Man I would love to have a second np231 and ax15 as backups and learn to rebuild them myself. But usually anything around here is taken asap or crap for insane prices lol . Love your vids
Its a big help to have spares like that. I got lucky I guess with the parts. An old AX15 isnt much here but its hard to find one. Thanks for watching!
Nice job mike, didn't seem easy at all to put that transmission back in place by yourself. 🤙🏼. Another nice video man
By the way if you replace those fender flares, I'll buy them from you let me know 😁
I bought used Novak Guide transmission and T-case for 200€, my AX15 have grinding when shifting down from 4 to 3rd gear, housing bell is same also shifting handle is on same position, should be possible to install🤷
Nice job Mike🥳
That's a very good price. Sounds like it should fit if all of that us the same. I guess the input shaft is the same also. That's for watching
This looked…. Well it was funny to watch, for sure.. I’m still mentally digesting the small clip/ziptie fix for that yoke. It’s the kind of thing that I’m sure there’s no advice actually documented for, not sure how long it’ll last, and honestly not entirely sure is even mechanically necessary. Time will tell!
That was probabaly the most annoying job of them all. I spent about one hour on that stupid clip making different ones and watching them fail. I guess it will hold with the cable ties, and if it doesn't I wont know so I don't care. Thanks for watching.
When I did my manual swap I ended up sat under the jeep cross legged with my head in the transmission tunnel, facing the engine, then I somehow managed to drag the gearbox into my lap, and literally hump it up with my legs then push it into place. It was horrific and at one point I almost castrated myself, that is the first and definitely the last time I replace a gearbox on my own
Ah god that sounds pretty terrible! I certainly should have called a friend. Next time I think I will get a small transmission jack, borrow one I mean and have a friend help
I love your tech videos, I think you must have the most modified Jeep in the world and a very longsuffering wife, you seem more married to the Jeep than to her!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
A dog sled team has its appeals.
Hi Mike. Couldn’t believe you only had 5 Patrons. Well you have 6 now. I need to do what you have done with the clutch. Can you please list the parts and wheee you got them please? Thanks. Trevor.
Ah mate thank you. I dont really advertise it, it's just there for those who choose to do so. Thank you again! It's not a fun job but blimy has it made a difference. I got my parts off of Autodoc. www.motor-doctor.co.uk/products/15234910-clutch-kit this is the kit I got. Thd pilot bearing and rear main seal must be ordered separately but ebay is the best place for that in the UK.
Nice this was what i was looking for but do you have a video of when you took the transmission down? did you find i write up how to do it? i couldnt find any on google
I didn't film the pulling of the transmission. Its quite simple though. Basically I disconnected the transfer case linkage from the T-case and then removed the clutch cylinder from the back of the transmission. Its just two bolts.
After that I took off the front and rear drive shafts. Then I put a jack under the transmission with a block of wood in-between. You can then remove the four crossmember bolts from the transmission and also the two each side that hold it to the frame. Make sure you open the bonnet also so nothing presses against it when the engine turns nose up.
Now take away the crossmember and begin lowering the jack and the whole thing will start to lower. Once lowered enough removed the two electrical connectors from the transmission and the one from the T-case. Transfer case fluid will poor out the back by the way so have a rag or something around the rear output seal.
You can now also remove the four bolts that hold the gear stick at the top. They are 12mm. That will let you pull up the stick away from the transmission. Now you can remove all of the larger bolts that hold it to the bell housing. There are 6 I think but then also two small 11mm bolts that hold the cps in place and I would take those out also. Once this is done its all free to pull back but its very heavy and a proper transmission jack would make it so much safer.
@@WorkshoptoWilderness Thanks for the writeup it helped lot 👍 now my clutch are mounted and are ready for a transmission mount hope to do it tomorrow
How did you get the aluminum so clean?
"Excellent.." 😂
Did you put a cps on before or after?
What oil did you use?
How many quarts of oil to fill?
вам приходилось менять ремкомплект на AX 15? планируете покупать ремкомплект на вторую коробку или проще поменять на контрактную кпп из за слишком большого износа шестерен??
I had a spare AX15 that had less that 75k miles on it so it was easier to just put that in. I will buy a overhaul kit for the one I took off and rebuild it as a spare.
The synchronisor rings for 3rd and 4th on the used one were totally gone
@@WorkshoptoWilderness у вас ещё возможно купить коробки с таким маленьким пробегом? сколько не искал,так и не нашёл идеальную AX15 с маленьким пробегом
At 19:30 Dude you might want to do a rev test before going on, Now's the time to find out you off balance, NOT later going down the road.
Fair point, It was some time ago so I assume its okay.
Hello! Thanks for your channel! I have a Cherokee XJ with the same engine as yours and an NV3550 gearbox. When the car is warmed up and when the clutch pedal is not pressed, the gearbox makes a lot of noise. I recently replaced the drive shaft bearing and clutch basket along with the release bearing. But the noise remains.. Can you tell me what could be the matter? Auto repair shops in my city don't want to take on this kind of work.
Hey, did it make a lot of noise prior to the change of parts?
@@WorkshoptoWilderness Such a quick answer :-) The noise is the same before and after replacing the parts. But it only makes noise when it's hot. When the box is cold there is almost no noise.
It could possibly just be gear rollover. When the oil is warm and the clutch isn't depressed it can happen. Since your noise is before and after the part change it sounds like a bearing on the transaxle. The noise would go away when the clutch was pressed because the transaxle would disconnect from the fly wheel.
In higher gears I assume you won't hear it as much but it's probably still there.
@@WorkshoptoWilderness Thanks for the answer :-) Could you tell me the part number so that I can understand exactly what the problem is. I would be very grateful.
36 ft lbs sounds extremely light for flywheel bolts. for the 4.0 gasoline engine its like 100 ft lbs. + red locktite. 36 sounds more like the clutch flex plate spec, not flywheel
Ah... I watched a bit further, I see you ended up at ~110 ft lbs | locktite :) :thumbsup:
Hey bud, I'm doing the same job on my XJ, and i'm in the process of putting the gearbox back in at that damn clip on the thrust bearing release fork has broke the exact same way as yours did, Now I was going to order a new clip but it's like 20 quid and is going to take a week to get here, I need the Jeep on the road ASAP, could you explain to me better that you did in your video exactly what you did to secure the fork on that ball thing lol, Thanks bud, appreciate it in advance haha lol
I ended up taking some thick wire and bent it into a clip so it would hold. I went a bit overkill with it and tied it off a wrapped it around itself so it couldn't come off.
It seems to be holding up, so that's good. Thanks for watching
@@WorkshoptoWilderness Thanks for the reply, We'll get on it tomorrow, I'll let you know if we succeed lol.
Omg! If that wheel would come loose, or snag your clothes.....
Dancing with the devil in that case. Horrible watching it back actually.
I've always been under the impression that you want gl4 specific lube not gl4 and gl5 compatible but just gl4. I use gl4 specific lube from either redline or amsoil and it seems to make a big difference.
I sent you a email a week ago roughly, I can't text you back I get an error message when i try. I forget exactly what I said in the email but I pulled out both style 6 pinion planets and I'd like to try and confirm which one you need then I'll send you all that stuff 😀 it looks like you need the one with the flat top tooth but i just want to confirm. So when you get a chance shoot me an email, there's no rush on my end though.
Regarding the flywheel to crankshaft bolts when you were reading about turning it 75 degrees, usually when a torque spec requires a certain amount of turns after reaching a certain spec it means they are torque to yield bolts so they are single use and stretch a certain amount with the extra turning they require. Hopefully that makes sense to you, I don't feel like those bolts would be torque to yield though on a flywheel.
I made some long studs for installing my transmission in my cherokee, I slotted the studs with a grinder so they can be installed and removed with a flat head screw driver and I use them every time I install a cherokee transmission it makes it super easy and fast to line up and push forward then you remove them and install bolts.