Visiting The Grave Of Abraham Lincoln's Other Mary

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
  • Before he married Mary Todd and was the 16th president of the United States, Abraham Lincoln, just a lawyer at the time, proposed to a woman named Mary Owens in 1837, who turned him down. Mary later ended up marrying a man named Jesse Vineyard, where they had five children and settled in western Missouri. A marker was placed in front of Mary's original grave outside Weston, Missouri in 1999, naming her "Lincoln's Other Mary."
    I first learned about this from watching KCVids816's video. Please go check out his UA-cam page as he has traveled to many places and makes some awesome videos from the Midwest.
    Sources:
    • “Lincoln’s Other Mary”...
    www.findagrave...
    www.emissouria...
    papersofabraha...

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  • @lonnietoth5765
    @lonnietoth5765 2 роки тому +12

    I'm glad to see they put a new stone up . I just replaced an old stone of my grand mothers uncle who was born in 1903 and passed in 1904 . A baby ! I'm 68 and was tired of looking at that poor little white broken marker , so I replaced it with a new one . His was broken in half and cemented together . Looked as pathetic as his short life was . No one got to know him and now they won't forget him !

  • @Chanticlair47
    @Chanticlair47 2 роки тому +4

    Everytime a person thinks they are special or better than the rest, just take a walk in an old cemetery and realize just what you are….barely a speck of dust in the endless sands of eternal time.

  • @juliapage7507
    @juliapage7507 2 роки тому +2

    You have a good narrative voice. Enjoyable to listen to.

  • @FrankIsAlwaysRight
    @FrankIsAlwaysRight 3 роки тому +7

    She rejects him…and…then his name appears on her gravestone? Typical…

  • @myfamilymatters
    @myfamilymatters 3 роки тому +4

    This was so informative. I never knew about this other Mary. I love watching history detectives.

  • @judypierce7028
    @judypierce7028 3 роки тому +10

    You know it would be great if some amateur historians would research the facts before making statements about Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln NEVER got over the love of his life. Her name was Anne - not Mary Owens. Lincoln was depressed after Anne's death and felt very lonely. He proposed to Mary Owens out of loneliness, not love. How do I know this? I am a Lincoln historian and ghost 305 is absolutely correct in his/her statement.

    • @orno8906
      @orno8906 3 роки тому

      Maybe try looking at the bright side? perhaps her old tombstone was so weathered that they did not want her to be forgotten and regardless of her life, a claim to fame of rejecting a proposal from the great emancipator is history worth remembering.

    • @kvogel9245
      @kvogel9245 3 роки тому

      "His other Anne" wouldn't work. LOL.

  • @lizzdoe2821
    @lizzdoe2821 2 роки тому

    Whooot!! Midwest!! Finally!!!

  • @ghost-ez2zn
    @ghost-ez2zn 3 роки тому +32

    Excellent video! That was really interesting! But...
    How dare someone add that extra stone? She wasn't Lincoln' s "other Mary". She wasn't Lincoln's anything! She married someone else and raised a family and went on with her life. This is so disrespectful of her, her husband and Lincoln's ONLY Mary. Mary Todd Lincoln. His wife. His only wife. Also disrespectful to President Lincoln, reminding everyone that he was rejected by his first love.
    I guess the selfish oafs who put up this mockery figured everyone involved was dead so it didn't really matter. I'm surprised they didn't rob her grave of any valuables instead of just stealing her dignity.

    • @DA-bp8lf
      @DA-bp8lf 3 роки тому +3

      You are correct with this call. Laughable how they try to make more out of nothing. 😂

    • @garymorris1856
      @garymorris1856 3 роки тому +7

      I agree. The stone about her being "Lincoln's other Mary," is inappropriate.

    • @michaelkullas2031
      @michaelkullas2031 3 роки тому +1

      Get over it. Maybe he was making a statement in her favor or maybe not. You have no idea whatsoever and you have made an accusation on an unqualified assumption.
      Go read a book.

    • @idiotidiot5821
      @idiotidiot5821 2 роки тому

      @@michaelkullas2031 why dont you get over us not getting over it already. Yeahhhh how the turn tables

    • @lizzdoe2821
      @lizzdoe2821 2 роки тому

      They definitely had tourists in mind when they put it up. But I find it interesting all the same

  • @christopherbrownmaaga4668
    @christopherbrownmaaga4668 2 роки тому +2

    Damn I didn't know Abraham Lincoln had someone else before Mary Todd.

  • @susansides473
    @susansides473 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for posting, I never knew this. Have you ever been to Abraham Lincoln's boyhood home in Indiana? His birth mother is buried on that property.

  • @MichaelAndersxq28guy
    @MichaelAndersxq28guy 3 роки тому +6

    Interesting. I'd never heard of her before.

  • @annelefevre9457
    @annelefevre9457 3 роки тому +7

    Does anybody upkeep the Cemetary, or is it just left to go to rack and ruin? That is strange somebody would pay to have a new headstone in front of Mary Owens grave, and not do anything to fix the old headstones if her and her husband. Whoever did do it, I hope they are haunted by her old husband who is laying buried beside her!!

    • @kennethwoodland152
      @kennethwoodland152 3 роки тому

      Hi, Anne how are you?

    • @kleeamd8274
      @kleeamd8274 3 роки тому

      Not sure about this cemetery. But its not uncommon for cemeteries to be unable to afford upkeep, once all the plots are full and the cemetery is unable to accept new burials, which of course brings in the cash needed to keep it up.
      The Monument Cemetery, in Philadelphia, PA, that became full in the late 1920's(opened 1837) is a good example of this happening.
      By the 50's, almost 120 years later after it first opened, it became an eyesore and a blight on the neighborhood, due to its deterioration from not being maintained and by local mischievous youths vandalizing it and using it as a place to conduct criminal activities, like drug dealing.
      In 1956, Temple University convinced the city officials to let them purchase the land that the cemetery was on, in order to repurpose it for their growing campus.
      They dug all the bodies up and threw them into an unmarked mass grave at another nearby cemetery, and they took all the gravestones and statues and threw those into the Delaware River for use as riprap for the Betsy Ross Bridge, where even today, you can still see the headstones on the riverbed at lowtide.
      Now a parking structure, athletic fields and a student pavillion exists on the 20 acres of land the cemetery and its eternal residents once inhabited.
      I doubt Temple University would have gotten away with that today.
      Recently in the news, in a suburb of San Francisco, a childs casket was found in the back yard of a house that was being renovated, with a little girl about 3years old in it, whose body was still very well preserved and in virtually pristine condition, despite such a long passage of time between her death/burial and subsequent accidental exhumation, given that her casket was estimated to be from the mid-1800's.
      Turns out the housing development was built on an old cemetery that's land was also repurposed. And although, the builders who bought the land promised to dig up and "rehome" each and every body to another cemetery, it was obvious that they did not transfer everyone.
      Through DNA genealogy testing and research, they were able to discover the identity of the child and whom she had belonged to in life, and she inside her original casket, was put into a modern casket and reburied in another cemetery, complete with a new headstone.
      I feel relieved that my parents and grandparents are buried in a cemetery that's registered on the National Historical Society list and that it will always be maintained because of that and i dont have to fear my parents (or me one day) will be disinterred.
      My parents/grandparents are buried in Cedar Hill Cemetery in Hartford, CT.
      The same man who designed the grounds of NY's Central Park, also designed the grounds of Cedar Hill.
      It was opened in 1865, and the caretaker house that was built with it, is still there with the current careraker living in it.
      The Wall Street tycoon and financier J. P. Morgan, as well as Katharine Hepburn, are both buried in the same section as my parents and grandparents.

  • @rjr1227
    @rjr1227 3 роки тому +2

    I like historical cemeteries like this...wonder why there are no trees?

  • @jbthor9032
    @jbthor9032 2 роки тому

    Yes there is. Please visit Fort
    Abercrombie stat Historical Site. It just south of Fargo ND and north of Wahpeton, ND.

  • @shannonmcnalley2657
    @shannonmcnalley2657 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the history lesson

  • @sandylane8492
    @sandylane8492 2 роки тому +3

    Kind of disrespectful to President Lincoln and Mary Todd Lincoln

  • @Slayceos
    @Slayceos 2 роки тому

    Never did get over that

  • @Strider66
    @Strider66  4 роки тому +4

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  • @kandidole2487
    @kandidole2487 Рік тому +2

    I guess that was this woman’s only claim to fame. Guess her family wanted a boost.

  • @janina8559
    @janina8559 3 роки тому +3

    Was she implying Lincoln had bad manners? Oh the scandal of it all 🤣

  • @lowlifetrent959
    @lowlifetrent959 3 роки тому +4

    I bet my ex-girlfriends would love that!...

  • @davidbirdsong7687
    @davidbirdsong7687 3 роки тому

    Thanks fr the edward cheek house (before 1873 )museum Halifax NC honoring Afro american heroes.

  • @mtrudo
    @mtrudo 3 роки тому

    Going there with an evp would be cool

  • @jenkinsjenkins8048
    @jenkinsjenkins8048 2 роки тому

    Hello their is town called diagonal Iowa now to small has merged into ringold county Iowa used to be home town of Dr Christy before moved away and helped Lincoln his picture in bicentenal book/ family kimberlin in book

  • @douglasmacgregor3878
    @douglasmacgregor3878 3 роки тому

    Very strange

  • @thorawilson1466
    @thorawilson1466 3 роки тому

    Lincoln was crushed by this woman's rejection.

    • @andrewlayton9760
      @andrewlayton9760 2 роки тому

      Not at all. In some of Lincoln's correspondence, he indicated to her that he would not be upset if she broke it off. It was an amicable split from what the historical record shows.

  • @ozzymd1
    @ozzymd1 3 роки тому +3

    How come you didn't clean and fix some of the stones ?

    • @MichaelAndersxq28guy
      @MichaelAndersxq28guy 3 роки тому +13

      That takes permission, money, time, and skill. He might not have the permission, money, or time.

    • @ozzymd1
      @ozzymd1 3 роки тому +1

      @@MichaelAndersxq28guy UMM YAA ! I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES C'MON MAN I MIGHT HAVE BEEN BORN AT NIGHT BUT IT WASN'T LAST NIGHT !!! MY COMMENT WASN'T ADDRESSED TO YOU MR KNOW IT ALL !!! SHEESH

    • @MichaelAndersxq28guy
      @MichaelAndersxq28guy 3 роки тому +16

      @@ozzymd1 I take it etiquette, comportment, grace, and manners aren't your long suits. Oh, and your caps lock is on.

    • @kennethwoodland152
      @kennethwoodland152 3 роки тому

      Hi, how are you?

    • @montana3227
      @montana3227 3 роки тому +2

      @@MichaelAndersxq28guy 🤣🤣