A Look Back at Bob Dylan's "Don't Look Back" (1967)

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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
  • I revisit the classic music documentary Don't Look Back and discuss why it was the perfect showcase for Bob Dylan.

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  • @jgwire
    @jgwire 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you! This is such a thoughtful and thorough summary -- told with truth and your obvious love of Bob is in various incarnations. However, I must take issue with your take on the scene where he plays Baby Blue for Donovan -- I've seen this as many times as you have probably -- That scene always troubled me. I came away thinking it was mean spirited and an impulsive attempt to "outdo" poor Donovan who sat in embarrassed rapture as Bob laughs and plays half of it.
    Watching him listening to Donovan- Dylan looks bored and impatient and just waiting for the chance to get that guitar and show off his genius..... He was young an full of piss and vinegar -- and what a fishbowl!! -- so it it what it is -- GREAT FILM -- ICKY scene-- it's hard for me to watch -- JMHO --Thoughts? Perhaps I"m off base...This was my initial opinion -- But I've read this many times in reviews as well... I'm reading other comment here that contradict me -- but it's just the way I feel about the scene. BUT: It NEEDED TO BE THERE FOR SURE. At any rate, I am impressed and grateful for your insight and depth and thoughts on this revolutionary doc......Frankly, Joan is the only one who comes out of this looking humble and in tact -- and she has said that tour was "HELL." He was an asshole to her -- and she helped promote him!! You know the story -- Anyway -- it's all left for history to judge. THANKS for doing it. I'm subbing. Special stuff here...

    • @jgwire
      @jgwire 3 роки тому

      And thanks to you -- I am gonna watch it again for the first time in years.

    • @ThomasWilsonJones
      @ThomasWilsonJones  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for the thoughtful comment! I appreciate your alternate take on that scene. I can totally see how the moving of Bob's foot. can either be seen as dancing to the song or like a little kid tapping his foot waiting for his turn with the toy. Glad you're rewatching this film again! It never gets old for me; I love living in this world, even for just an hour and a half :)

    • @jgwire
      @jgwire 3 роки тому

      @@ThomasWilsonJones It was fantastic- little of what I thought from memories was actually even there - and what is still there has taken on a
      new meaning or listening or context - it’s been at least 20 years since I saw it but I knew it well - as well as the film’s “backstory and players- - but this time I focused more on filmmaking techniques and narrative and what WAS there instead of what I thought I remembered - how they all put it together and I disregarded any overt drama - I am older now, -62- and I was so moved by that Donovan scene in a new and better way - his obvious adoration- Bob’s laughing - it’s loose/ but as a musician I also know those back room party jams are usually not nice if you scratch its surface. and you’re right- they were just kids- gimme a
      Break!! - Now
      now boys - just like you said - like kids having too
      Much fun and fighting-over
      Nothing - Bob looked So drained by the end - great filmmaking -and I DID notice for first time that Joan Baez slammed a door and left after a particular scene halfway through - and she’s never seen or spoken of again.
      “that tour was HELL” she said in an interview about the film - anyway- older eyes - fresher vision! And thanks for vid - tips cause the LAST thing I initially wanted to do was watch it one more time - Dunno about me- but film has aged well and remains as an important music history document. Finally, I was so inspired I was gonna do the Scorsese one about the NEXT time he visit across the pond in 66- but I’lll it for another nite - oversaw and over analyzed that one too- last words: the film hadn’t changed one bit - I Had.
      JMHO- thanks!

  • @Mark_Bayer
    @Mark_Bayer 6 місяців тому

    Wow man you’re breakdown of the Allen Price scene was amazing. I’ve never though about it all that deeply, but you are spot on

    • @ThomasWilsonJones
      @ThomasWilsonJones  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for saying this! One of my favorite scenes from my favorite movies.

  • @a2zme
    @a2zme 2 роки тому +2

    That Donovan scene has SO many things happening (psychologically):
    Donovan realizing that he'll never write a song like that.
    Dylan letting Donovan know that he's on another level musically.
    Baez wondering if that song is really about here.
    Dylan letting her know that it most certainly is.
    One of the best documentaries ever filmed .. Cinéma vérité style .. just show up, turn on the camera and you never know what you'll capture.
    Thanks for the video .. excellent analysis :)
    #theMaster

    • @ThomasWilsonJones
      @ThomasWilsonJones  2 роки тому +1

      great comment. so many layers to peel back in that scene. amazing movie!

  • @HuckleberryAlexander
    @HuckleberryAlexander 2 роки тому +2

    Joan Baez is singing a song there called 'Percy's Song.' Bob wrote that one too. It's a song that will slay you in the right moment. It was always a thrill to me to listen to her play it while he pounded out more words on that typewriter.

  • @BobDylanFan1966
    @BobDylanFan1966 3 роки тому +4

    4:38 that's actually Bob Neuwirth who hangs out with Bob most of the film.

  • @robertwray6004
    @robertwray6004 2 роки тому +1

    Really dig your passion for all things Bob. Cheers!

  • @yacheberries843
    @yacheberries843 3 роки тому +3

    Aah!! Great analysis video, man! I've been positively obsessed with Don't Look Back ever since I watched it a while back, and it's great to see someone with the same level of appreciation for all of the various scenes and cut-aways! It really gives a great fly-on-the-wall feel for the viewer, especially with the amount of tender scenes we get to see with Bob. Thank you for devoting a whole section to Donovan and Alan as well, especially because Bob and Don's shared arc is honestly as much of a framing device for the film as the tour itself - not at all the petty rivalry the media at the time made it out to be. I love their friendship so much, I bought a copy of the "Dylan Digs Donovan" paper Bob reads in the film! And Alan... my favorite "character" in the film, to be perfectly honest. Everything you said about him, I agree with completely; poor guy was really getting stressed, prodded, and exhausted from his time with the Animals, yet also has a twinge of remorse for leaving that partnership so abruptly. He's an absolutely fascinating figure throughout the film, almost playing comic relief while supplying arguably the most emotional scene in the whole movie. Whoops, I could talk about Alan all day! Haha. This film was my gateway to him and the Animals/his solo work as a whole, and I couldn't be more thankful, because he's quickly become one of my absolute favorite figures from the decade. I recommend listening to the O Lucky Man! soundtrack, which he composed, whenever you have a chance, it's great!
    Anyway, fantastic video once again! To add a lil addendum, that's Bob Neuwirth with Allen Ginsberg in "Subterranean Homesick Blues", not Donovan. Don did help with those cue cards, though!

    • @jgwire
      @jgwire 3 роки тому

      Thanks for more clarity and context to Alan in this more incredibly fascinating film.
      Though I’ve seen it numerous times - I’d not seen it in years -and what I “thought” I remembered was either not there or I had totally missed the point-the Donovan scene used to irk me cause it seemed mean. Now it just seems more innocent and intimate- well, as intimate as a room of drunk, rowdy, young and friendly but competitive musicians can get!- And WHO broke the glass?
      Who cares? Lol - let’s jam ..
      Now let’s turn to the wounded and abused and angry Alan, who is, as you said, a strange and most compelling character-
      But frankly- and sadly for me - even though I’m well versed in modern myth and musicology, I could not figure out who he was for first half the film - and this is my recent viewing just last week- (I was never a
      huge Animals follower, though I liked them- my loss. Time to find out)
      Years ago, though I didn’t pay Alan any mind at all! Movie was same; my perception changed!and it’s weird and painful to watch him stay just to bleed all over the place- especially when i did not know his role there.
      A question- Bob didn’t have keys onstage. What was Alan even staying for- to give Bob a punching bag?? Or ‘moral support)? Just hanging around?
      Seems Bobby Neuwirth had that covered-
      Whats your take on him? Know his role in Big Picture but he never seems to DO anything - oh, he tuned Bob’s harp once- and handled his cigarettes- and that’s important-so I reckon from what I know he was Bob’s best bud and confidant, or muse, or doppelgänger- or…protector- tho that was Goldman’s role.
      Neuwirth remains a riddle I’m not sure I care enough to even unravel- even in Rolling Thunder, he just seemed like he was “hanging around” - even as he shared the mic w Bob!
      Anyway-
      Thanks or turning me onto Alan.
      I will check out the record you mentioned-Alan deserves a
      Little more attention and credit from me!! THANKS! JMHO.

    • @jgwire
      @jgwire 3 роки тому

      I thought I saw him doing that! Great stuff

    • @yacheberries843
      @yacheberries843 3 роки тому

      @@jgwire Aaa!! Thank you for the response, and I'm glad to have given you a little more context regarding Alan's behavior/his presence in the film! Actually, since I posted that original comment, I've been researching Alan and the first iteration of the Animals *a whole lot* more, which has given me even more insight into his emotions/behavior at the time.
      It's interesting, because I first watched "Dont Look Back" with a small bit of context going in; I had watched clips in the past (such as the Donovan discussuon between Alan and Bob), so as such, I somewhat knew who Alan was going in (he was the keyboardist for the Animals, the comments section told me). Most people probably know Alan fron that clip, as a giggly and somewhat dry-witted drunk who Bob learns about Donovan from, and thus their initial perception of him is colored by this (myself included). However, not even a scene later, we see this man take swigs out of two separate alcoholic beverages, all the while continuing his drunken ramblings, which is further expanded upon in some deleted scenes featuring Alan. And there's, of course, the scene in the Newcastle dressing room, where Alan's true colors really begon to show. Under the mask of drunken cheeriness is a truely introverted, disturbed, and exhausted man, way out of his element.
      Through research, you'll find that Alan really wasn't the extroverted, partying-type, preferring to keep to himself while touring with the Animals, and even later in his career with the Alan Price Set. He spent much of his time alone in his flat, reading or creating music, with frequent tours and performances really taking a toll on his mental health. Alcohol was somewhat of a twisted medicine for him, something he used to put himself in a haze for plane flights (which he was terrified of), as well as help him cope with his insecurities. The timeline of the film directly coincides with Alan's spiral downwards; the night of the CBS party in the film (May 1st, 1965) was the night Alan announced he was quitting the Animals, a fact that somehow went unknown to Bob and the others until the Newcastle scene. As such, his clutching of alchoholic beverages like a baby's bottle in every scene he's in, as well as his highly erratic and silly behavior, makes complete sense, as his departure from the Animals was *very* fresh and he desperately wanted to compensate. The expression he makes when Bob interrogates him says it all; it's as if Alan's face twists in disgust, yet also seems sorrowful (thank you, Pennebaker, for capturing this moment!) I think Eric Burdon also puts it best when he recounts his side of the Alan-quitting story: "When Alan left 'the Animals', it was the worst night of my life. It compares with nights I remember, when deep and long love affairs have to end (I've had one or two)... you get over them... it takes a long time and you never quite forget." (Eric Burdon, 1966, The Price to Play sleevenote)
      In my personal opinion, I think Alan was there, hanging out with Bob, in the first place for his own sanity. On one hand, you could make the argument that Alan just wanted to rub shoulders with highly prolific and popular musicians/songwriters like Bob and Joan, but I (personally) believe Alan just... wanted to be *around* people he hoped would understand him and distract him from the pain and turmoil. Despite his affinity for being alone and introversion, I believe even he realized he would drive himself crazy if he was completely alone during this period, so I'm sure he thought hanging out with Bob and the others, a circle he was already welcome in since the Animals met Bob in the US the previous year, would provide him some solidarity. Little details like Bob noticing his mood change and Neuwirth checking on him after everyone leaves the dressing room, comfirms that Alan did get some of the sympathy and support he was craving.
      As for Bob Neuwirth, he is quite the enigma of a "character", both in "Dont Look Back" and Bob's career as a whole... but honestly, I think it's one of the most endearing aspects of him. I may just have a soft spot for Neuwirth because he, like me, is an artist at heart, but I honestly think he's an important aspect of that public perception of Dylan we all have. A version of Dont Look Back without Neuwirth would honestly feel quite jarring, as without him, Bob no longer has a double of himself to bounce jokes and silly antics off of, nor a defensive, protective confidant to support him, no matter his outrageous moves. He accompanied Bob on his tours for practical reasons, of course, but considering how strong their friendship was, his mere presence is one of the aspects that gives Bob's behavior and personality visible traction. He mimics Bob yet he also supports him, with some highlights being their finger-snapping during the CBS party, the moment when Neuwirth defensively shoves Bob behind him when Grossman is confronting the man in the hotel, and the famous "Who threw the glass?" scene, where he seems like he's even trying to protect Pennebaker from the chaos. That's another thing about Neuwirth that seems intriguing to me - throughout the film and amongst all of his immature moments with Bob, he really seems to be looking out for everyone. Bob especially, but Pennebaker, Grossman, and Joan as well (whom he shares quite a sibling-like relationship with; behind-the-scenes, he comforted her a lot as Bob grew more and more distant and dismissive of her). Alan, too - as I mentioned previously, Neuwirth checking on him and Pennebaker when they remained in the dressing room.
      With all of that being said, Neuwirth is someone who could be overanalyzed (like I just did, haha), but there's really no need to. In a blunt sort-of way, he and Bob just seem like a pair of teenagers goofing around while on a vacation to England, and honestly, it's hilarious, entertaining, and very endearing, and yet another element of "Dont Look Back"'s brilliance in humanizing Dylan.
      !! Thank you so much again for reading! This movie is one of my absolute favorites, and I adore every element of it. As well, I'm so happy to have introduced you to Alan - he's an incredible musician! Besides his solo material, I also recommend the Animals' album "Live at Club A Go Go (December 1963)" for some truely raw material on all of their parts, especially Alan. It's my firm belief that the Animals (as well as Alan) sound the best live, so it's an absolute treat!
      Thank you!! - Connie

  • @politicalprincess1
    @politicalprincess1 3 роки тому +4

    Joan was actually singing a song of Bob’s at that moment where you want to be there (so would I!) They were in a relationship at the time and he was treating her quite appallingly. She does leave abruptly

    • @jgwire
      @jgwire 3 роки тому +2

      Yes she does!!
      She just gets up and looks at those kids and just shrugs and slams the door - and that’s that-
      She is oughta there! (Know of romance thing)
      Good for her!
      I’ve seen this film so many times and read and seen so many interviews w her ..et al
      about this tour.
      “It was HELL”, she laughed in a recent one.
      But at least she got “Diamonds and Rust” out of it- so beautiful and sad-
      She suffered for that Art.
      thanks for your insights! JMHO

  • @Turtle152
    @Turtle152 3 роки тому +2

    The reason for Dylan's tantrum in the hotel room is that some unknown person had locked themselves in the bathroom at some point and started pulling glass shelves from the wall and throwing them out the window.
    Pennebaker has said that Dylan gave him a dirty look when he kept filming Alan Price after his mood soured. Price rejoined the Animals when they did a reunion album in the 70s.

  • @asitis56
    @asitis56 3 роки тому +1

    Great work sir

  • @maggiebryan2355
    @maggiebryan2355 3 роки тому +1

    Great film

  • @branthomas1621
    @branthomas1621 2 роки тому +1

    Great analysis, one thing though, that's Bobby Neuwirth with Alan Ginsberg in the "subterranean Homesick blues" video, not Donovan.

  • @StephenAKatz
    @StephenAKatz 3 роки тому +1

    It's not Donovan in the opening with Ginsberg, it's Dylan's friend Bobby Neuwirth.

  • @SeanDaRyan
    @SeanDaRyan 2 роки тому +1

    Dylan was a AMAZING singer up until midish 80s. His 70s era is my fav but honestly I love all decades and styles of Dylan

    • @ThomasWilsonJones
      @ThomasWilsonJones  2 роки тому

      I really enjoy his 70's output as well! And as big of a Dylan fan as I am, it is pretty difficult for me to get into his 80s onwards stuff. I have a softspot for the strange album that is Empire Burlesque but in more of an ironic entertainment way and not the same gut wrenching output he made in the 60s (with the exception of the final track Dark Eyes).

    • @SeanDaRyan
      @SeanDaRyan 2 роки тому +1

      @@ThomasWilsonJones Dark eyes is great! Oh Mercy! Is amazing…I think his MTV Unplugged one of his best live albums…UA-cam his MTV version of I Want You.

    • @ThomasWilsonJones
      @ThomasWilsonJones  2 роки тому

      @@SeanDaRyan will do, thanks for the recommendation!

    • @SeanDaRyan
      @SeanDaRyan 2 роки тому

      @@ThomasWilsonJones haha ALSO check out his Shelter From The Storm London (1987)...his live shows are all bootlegged on youtube. Absolutely amazing stuff

    • @SeanDaRyan
      @SeanDaRyan 2 роки тому

      @@ThomasWilsonJones have you seen Rolling Thunder Revue?

  • @shuddupeyaface
    @shuddupeyaface 3 роки тому

    Ahh , how lucky to live in Monterey! Xx

    • @ThomasWilsonJones
      @ThomasWilsonJones  3 роки тому +1

      it truly is a beautiful place - we actually just moved to Dalmatia, Croatia though! - Similar ocean views :)

  • @jamesatipton2432
    @jamesatipton2432 3 роки тому +1

    I thought that was Neuwirth with Ginsburg, not Donovan.

    • @ThomasWilsonJones
      @ThomasWilsonJones  3 роки тому +1

      it is Neuwirth 😔 it's mistakes like these that keep me up at night...

  • @marshallscott
    @marshallscott 4 роки тому

    i feel like we are on facetime

  • @Victor-Vargas
    @Victor-Vargas 2 роки тому

    6:57 18:03 (for me)

  • @briandavidson833
    @briandavidson833 3 роки тому

    More like a look at you looking. We don't always have to see you, and you might write down concisely what you want to say. Your explanations are much longer than the tiny snippets of film you show.

    • @ThomasWilsonJones
      @ThomasWilsonJones  3 роки тому +2

      totally agreed. This was made for a school assignment and if it wasn't for the time constraint, I would've liked to edit it more (cutting between movie and me instead of having both play at same time).