What is congestion pricing?
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Vehicles entering the Congestion Relief Zone - local streets and avenues south of and including 60 St in Manhattan - will be charged a toll. Toll rates will vary by type of vehicle and time of day. Passenger vehicles and motorcycles will only be charged once per day. For more info please visit: congestionreli...
Buses need to be dramatically beefed up right before this happens, that's what London did before their congestion pricing. Particularly on Staten Island which currently has absolute shit transit, same with certain areas of Queens and the Bronx.
We need to make sure that the money achieved from this actually goes directly towards modernizing the subway and replacing old equipment with new equipment that would do way more good than those overpriced extensions. Kathy Hochul better not pocket this money. In other words, we need to be able to hold the MTA accountable. Furthermore, drivers are gonna be really mad when they need to understand that they have to pay the cost of the damages, they caused when driving into the city, and consumers need to pay the full cost of goods. Congestion pricing brings out brutal honesty and I don't think anyone is going to take it well even if it is a logical policy.
why can't we expand the system to reach more neighborhoods?
@@Urban_Man we can but modernizing the existing subway and bus system and improving what we do have would help hell of a lot more people, literally every existing transit rider, Then those overpriced extensions, which take forever to be built and keep costing way too much.
Yeah especially The 2nd Avenue Subway & The IBX Since the Lexington Avenue line is Overcrowded & All the Line except for the G, Franklin Av & Rockaway Shuttles & There are people that live in Bay Ridge Or Jackson Heights that works in Canarsie or Midwood
@@transitcaptain FACTS! ❤
The MTA installed new equipment on Queens Blvd Line and it is still garbage. I don't see this as a benefit because the MTA is poorly mismanaged. Not to mention that this will not reduce congestion across the entire city but spread it to other parts of the city. Northern Manhattan and the South Bronx will see more cars and worse pollution. Frankly I an hoping for the lawsuits to succeed because this isn't good for the environment and I don't trust the MTA to handle the money properly as the keep overspending on projects all the time
Glad to see that the comments have some true urbanists
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As long as the money is properly allocated that’s fine lmao
The money was and is never properly allocated. This is a cash grab.
@@Tillhonyfacts
You think that'll happen? What a f'ing joke
Once this goes into effect, everyone will wonder how we ever survived before it. It’s going to transform the city
Could not agree more. This is precisely the sentiment over London's plan which is very similar
It's going to destroy the city.
@@brooklynelite5428 why do you say so, when cities like London have done the same for 20 plus years and only seen positive effects?
@saucycade123 This isn't London this is NY a city once full of fun and people like myself who like to just drive around just because now being taken away by people who never lived in nyc because if they were true New Yorkers we would allow nor stand for this and the way the city changing for the worst.
@@brooklynelite5428 true New Yorkers remember New York before it was taken over by private automobiles in the 40s and 50s. When people walked, took streetcars, and the subway and the streets were quiet and people weren’t mowed down by cars daily
Something that no longer exists
If it would improve FDNY and NYPD to get to there places on time then that good although it’s a lot of money. Maybe lower a little bit
It's a scam
It's just putting an end to the fact that streets not having tolls is the most communist thing in this country.
I don’t know why everyone is saying this is bad if this is clearly good and other cities and countries do this too
Thank god! It's high time Manhattan takes its streets back from cars!
You belong back in the 18th century!!!!!
@@Marc816youre an idiot lol
@@Marc816no u
Scam
Remove FDR Drive completely, get light rail on Manhattan and expand the subway ! Close roads for personal vehicles.
Wow can’t believe I see a stupider idea then this one
Also, what about the Lincoln Tunnel? You have to get off the West Side Highway to access it via local streets? How's that going to work?
I live in Chicago but I’ve heard that the highways circling the island aren’t part of the congestion pricing because you aren’t going into the city grid
@@pantherbulb8 not true, there are toll camera's already set up right outside the trunnels (all 3 tunnel's ) If you enter the city south of 60th street , you will be charged. There is no escaping this money grab...
It's a money grab. Period!
Congestion Pricing is unnecessary, especially when the MTA isn't doing enough to curb the tampant fare evasion.
#AuditTheMTA
Should be even more drastic. Higher tolls along with ZBE like Madrid. But obviously that's difficult to implement in America with the road infrastructure. This is a start.
Remove the illegal migrants first. Less traffic.
Hopefully this allows them to work on some much needed upgrades and expansions like CBTC on 6th Ave , expansions like rock away beach branch Springfield expansion for the E d expansion to co op city Utica Ave line and 7 to college point
That's sounds good.
The 6 Pelham line is definitely gonna be extended to co op city I'm telling. Lexington Avenue lines is definitely getting CBTCS soon. The 8 and ninth Ave Elevated lines will definitely come back I tell you that right now.
The Connecticut metro North is definitely returning back to Pennsylvania station Manhattan Hunts point moriss parkchester and co op city. Chances are the 6 is definitely gonna be extended to co op city. Not the E trains. The 11 trains is definitely gonna be extended to 20 college point whitestone while the 7 Flushing line is definitely gonna be extended to Bayside Queens I'm telling you. The R262/As open and close ways for the A devisin iRT lines all aswell.
The Q T trains are definitely be extended to East Harlem and west side across 125 street to connect to the 1 Broadway line. That's definitely gonna happen Im telling you. I definitely know they are definitely gonna make enough room to rebuild the 8 Thrid Ave Elevated line back between Gun hill road Clearmount Webster Boston road Bronx and Batincal gardens Frordam plaza and Battery place or Chatham Square or south Ferry connecting to the 1 Broadway line N R W trains 🚃.
SCAM. The MTA keeps getting more money yet the service quality keeps getting worse.
How about make your service good enough so people don't want to drive like in Japan/Europe?
Make cities walkable/pedestrian friendly instead of making driving even more expensive than it already is.
Don't steal people's money on toll in new york.
About time.
Another reason why to leave NYC!
No
I like this idea
What is congestion pricing? Another tax on an already tax beaten population.
“It’s a win win, drivers will be able to get to their destinations faster”. Well that’s if they’re driving in the congestion relief zone. What about the Upper East Side and everywhere of Manhattan above 60th Street where they still CAN’T use mass transit and have to drive? What about the other boroughs? I have a feeling this whole plan may only help Manhattan by about 30% and maybe all the other neighborhoods and streets will have worse traffic than ever.
Congestion pricing is the city continuing to try and milk every last dollar out of people
Otherwise known as writing a blank check to an entity known for letting money disappear and has no accountability. The MTA should be run like a utility without regard for profitability.
Mta has never been profitable
The MTA *is* run like a utility. It's not even close to profitable. Nearly half of its funding is tax-subsidized.
You want me to pay $15?
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Will New Jersey consider congestion pricing for New Yorkers and others who regularly drive to Paterson, Jersey City, and other NJ sites to taste their Indian, Middle Eastern and other food options? LOL
Scam.
This is no scam. This is helpful to ease traffic.
Bros mad he has to pay the toll 😂😂
A win yes now everything will go up because fire who is gonna pay also the truck drivers who delivers the goods the truck drivers
Plate covers incoming 🫡
I'd rather sit in traffic than deal with late, smelly ahh, packed, and high crime transit system.
Great now can you make the elevators not an easy pit stop for our un housed neighbors to urinate and defecate in.
This will not help with traffic. Just another way to take money from us.
Why are nt mta cops paying …. How many exemptions do you guys have? …
Will there still be a free route between Upstate and Long Island, or will there be a toll at the entrance of the Queensboro Bridge?
the FDR is exempt
@@stevenroshni1228 Yes, but Queensboro Bridge does not touch the FDR. Drivers from the FDR have to travel on some streets to reach the bridge to get to Queens. You must be thinking about the Brooklyn Bridge, which I guess counts as a free route to and from Long Island.
This exposes the need for ramps so FDR traffic can get on the bridge without clogging the streets, but the MTA will never look at like such.
My fear is that these remaining freebies will get so clogged that the MTA will be forced to address the issue.... and they'll choose to toll it instead of free public streets
I'm sorry for being the pessimist, but this 'congestion pricing' plan will not change much of anything... Oh, it may (in the immediate future) do what it purports, but the truth of the matter is that in 5 years, the subways will still be the way they are today - if not, worse. One must understand - the NYC subway system is the oldest subway in the world. They are not going to add any new lines, down time will get worse as ridership ticks up (as an immediate result of this plan), and you can bet that within my 5 year prediction, they will raise the price to ride on the subway/buses at least once. The subways will remain a shelter for homeless - so you can bet that the smell of excrement and unbathed individuals will not go anywhere. Service will be cut sometime between now and then (at least on two lines) and with MTA police cuts, safety will definitely be an issue. I'll put it to you this way... The tracks and tunnels are already there to allow trains from Penn Station to the East Side (Grand Central), but they refuse to allow those tracks to be used - even though this would make life a lot easier for commuters from either side of the Hudson access to the opposite side. Additionally, I highly doubt that this is anything more than a money-grab. Being born and raised in the Bronx, I've seen enough of this in my 54 years of life to know when more of the same is imminent.
And I actually do agree on a lot of that! And for drivers and local streets of NYC, streets won’t be that much less congested even if drivers pay more to go below Manhattan’s 60th Street as literally all the traffic jams can just pile up more from the Queensboro Bridge and everywhere of Manhattan above 60th Street.
somebody believe that ?????????
Let's get it.
This is nothing other than a money grab. It's also not going to deter people from driving.
It absolutely will deter people from driving. In any of these videos you will see angry people from Jersey in the comments saying "I will never drive into manhattan again" and each one of those people refusing to drive in is a bonus.
@@foisixes677 when they say never drive into manhattan, that means they are going to reduce the amount of visits to manhattan. They arent going to take the trains or ferries or buses over the hudson, they're just going to not come at all.
Why can't NY
tax the wealthiest corporations to fund mass transit like NJ is doing and not making drivers pay obviously if they are driving its for a reason. You're forcing people on to trains and buses that dont want to be there. I own 2 cars and love to drive and i also take train and buses also my problem is forcing all these people on trains and buses i dont like it because the trains and buses will be ridiculously crowded and that will have me and others saying this is why we drive and driving is more convenient. You go and come as you please. Stop trying to take people driving rights and leave us alone.
Because the wealthy will move to Connecticut. Or Florida. NJ seems to be on a mission to become the next California with their out-of-control taxes.
You want to implement computer attacks, but you fuck up the businesses and the rest of the city and including New Jersey I don’t support computer tax
A total and complete scam
You’re right. The toll should be increased tenfold to let drivers know and fully deter vehicles from entering Manhattan
a toll to drive on a public street? what a joke, im sure this precedent wont be abused. meanwhile the rich people don't give a shi* about this, just frees up traffic for them, meanwhile the working class pays the real toll. im also sure all the funds collected from the tolls won't be put to waste like 90% of the money the MTA collects already.
Take the subway, it’s much more efficient and it’s $5.80 a day compared to the $15 + gas prices.
The working class generally doesn't drive in nyc
@@TG4164 for many people this not an option, especially for people that live just outside the city or live in areas of the city that do not have access nearby or it would take significantly longer. also there are some jobs that flat out can’t be done when traveling on the subway, many essential workers in nyc rely on vehicles to transport items as part of their jobs. i’ve personally have had a job in the past that required a vehicle to be able to go from site to site all over the city.
Almost like the NYC subway reaches the entire metro area!@@TG4164
@@nsl1117exactly.
As a conservative, i have no problems with congestion pricing as long as the money is 100% sent to the subway and absolutely 0% goes to our communist politicians. also, congestion pricing should apply to personal vehicles only, CMVs should be exempt
Its unconstitutional is what it is
Where in the constitution does it say you have a right to drive?
so toll roads are unconstitutional too...lets use that brain first!
Were destroying family business with this one🔥🔥🔥
Now subways and buses should be free
Facts
Probably a bad idea
Only one bus route in each borough. No subways should be free fare.
@@durece100 no all routes should be free and subways should be free fare.
Minus the (7). Best line
EXACTLY MTA FIGHT BACK 🗣️
Bunch of lies
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My one complaint about this program is that no consideration was given to the effects of the toll on trucks and thus the price of consumer goods. Over 90% of goods in NYC arrive by truck, the most of any city in North America. They should be exempt. Plus a portion of the money should go towards hiring more cops to crack down on fare evasion and unruly behavior in the subway. If driving and transit both suck, people will just choose not to come to the city if they can help it.
Congestion charge for a large truck is $36. If a truck is transporting $50,000 of goods, that's a 0.02% increase on the price of the goods...
We need at least 2 new trunk lines of subways in the city. And car culture here in the states is extremely powerful. I’m surprised within the last 20 years or so lots of American cities have constructed light rails. Prior to ww2 lots of cities had great street car systems but the automobile industry came in took over.
They should focus on enforcing fare evasion to fund the subway. It’s not fair for people who don’t use the subway to pay for it while people who are using the subway are not paying for it.
It's not fair that people who don't drive need to pay for the roads
They should raise the MTA toll, ridiculous
@@societygaming1165 everyone uses the roads
Every single person uses the roads in some way but we all faint drive. There should be tiers. And many people carpool into the city, that should also be addressed
I support congestion pricing because too much personal vehicles and need to be reduced. Emergency vehicles are staying when there's low traffic.
Thanks for charging me extra for driving on crappy NYC roads. Just spent hundred repairing a wheel from a neglected pothole on the FDR drive. Time and time again we always getting charged extra and no real improvement.
It’s like you can’t drive your car for free after you spend so much money on insurance, gas and eventual tickets. Crazy
MTA 😃
If subway delays keep happening and if crime rates and fare hikes keep happening, then why should people still use mass transit? Congestion pricing is NOT exactly going to get everyone more onto mass transit and it’s just gonna make other Manhattan streets above 60th Street get more congested than ever before, in addition to the other NYC boroughs.
How much is an hour of travel time round trip saved for essential car trips? Like fifteen dollars according to economists.
Fantastic plan. But the toll needs to be increased tenfold. This will make sure no vehicles will enter the city.
As if the city was not expensive enough already… So glad I moved back to upstate…
Why do commuter buses have to pay this fee?
They don't.
They do. A lot of private bus companies hate congestion pricing for this reason. Make sure you do your research before commenting a false statement!!@@slasherfun
@@maknyc1539They don't. Private bus companies operating non-public transit routes aren't commuter buses. Make sure you do your research before commenting a false statement!! @maknyc1539
@@slasherfun Why should buses transporting daily commuters have to pay the toll
This can't come fast enough.
IMO this doesn't go nearly far enough. We've had 100 years of "Carrot" in the form of comprehensive public transit, now it's time for "Stick". This toll should be pegged to the AQI number, updated hourly. AQI of 100? That'll be $100 to drive into the city. Don't like it? Leave your ridiculous car in the suburbs.
this wont do anything lol
You’re right, the congestion price needs to be dramatically increased to fully deter car brains from entering the city
MTA needs that money to bonus there employees and Governor gets sum of that money so she could run for president which she will never!! Win oops! Whistle-blower alert
Good