What Happened To Pokemon Movies?

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  • Опубліковано 13 лип 2023
  • Pokemon movies used to be a yearly tradition, but none have been produced since 2020. Here's some of the reasons for their disappearance...
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  • @JPRPokeTrainer98
    @JPRPokeTrainer98  10 місяців тому +76

    Happy JPR Friday! What's your favorite Pokemon movie?

    • @Beegirl12345
      @Beegirl12345 10 місяців тому +5

      Poop

    • @guillermorey2574
      @guillermorey2574 10 місяців тому +7

      Pokemon I Choose You

    • @twistedjake_
      @twistedjake_ 10 місяців тому +7

      Zoroark: Master of Illusions is my favorite Pokémon movie

    • @evawhite1144
      @evawhite1144 10 місяців тому +6

      The three I like the most are the one about Lucario, the one about Zoroark, and the first one about Mewtwo. My favorite one of these three tho, is the Lucario one.

    • @Raptorlord241
      @Raptorlord241 10 місяців тому +5

      Pokemon the movie 2000

  • @jwanie366
    @jwanie366 10 місяців тому +384

    I’m guessing they had plans for more movies but cancelled them due to COVID. And now that Ash is no longer the main protagonist, they might need some time to think of the next movie for the new protagonists

    • @Ditto.007
      @Ditto.007 10 місяців тому +57

      Yh the first movie for a new protagonist has to be impactful like how the first movie is still spoken about

    • @Damiantjuuu
      @Damiantjuuu 10 місяців тому +28

      Would be cool if the movies went with ash cuz its in a like different universe

    • @1y6._1op
      @1y6._1op 10 місяців тому +6

      ​@@Damiantjuuui hope so

    • @karuagira9067
      @karuagira9067 10 місяців тому +6

      ​@@Damiantjuuu yeah it can be like what is the champion doing now ❤

    • @fritomusic7832
      @fritomusic7832 10 місяців тому +5

      Or like they will do the same thing, with the AU ash, which I think is a great idea.

  • @knux333jw
    @knux333jw 10 місяців тому +184

    The fall of Pokémon movies is pretty sad... because it was a tradition to watch em with friends and family. And I always used them as a way to associate with the overall Pokémon generation of the time. But now that they're absent, it feels like something is missing. Combined with the mixed state of the video games, and the anime leaving Ash for a new direction, it puts Pokémon is a very weird spot currently.
    Hoping that works out in the end, because I do love Pokémon as a franchise still overall. But it does need to handle things better.

    • @dwainsimmons3447
      @dwainsimmons3447 10 місяців тому

      It may have something to do with the dubs.

    • @mohammedhussain939
      @mohammedhussain939 10 місяців тому +3

      It's actually perfect as you could still have Ash in them as like a catchup?

    • @TheConuresrule
      @TheConuresrule 10 місяців тому +6

      Pokemon slowly lost its soul. First the show after gen 4 going down the drain slowly. XY was a good step but that got thrown away. Movies started getting stale during gen 5. And then after gen 6/7 the games went down the drain.

    • @commentatorboise3253
      @commentatorboise3253 10 місяців тому +1

      Pokemon Horizons is the best Pokemon media we've had in the last decade so maybe things will start to go back up

    • @manuelalbertoromero9528
      @manuelalbertoromero9528 Місяць тому

      "The fall". Not taking into consideration outside factors?

  • @KremBotop
    @KremBotop 10 місяців тому +153

    With how mythicals have basically disappeared post Zarude, the assumption that they have become movie tie in mons over time, hence their lack of in-game precense and lore in recent gens, seems to have some truth to it.
    There might be 2 planned Gen 8 mythical designs buried in GF's archives that could've most likely been made for the 2021 and 2022 movies, but have since been discarded following the complications of releasing movies after the health crisis and especially with the diminishing JP box office returns of the last few movies. That event essentially ended the annual movies for now. If that ever happens again, aside from a Detective Pikachu movie sequel or something, the big question is who's gonna star in it now that we're in a post Ash world. With the ICY AU movies settling as standalone / self contained anthology films they can very much keep that formula but with an entirely new cast per movie, with most of the selling points being the partner Pokemon and voice actors (in the JP original at least) and the new mythical fully taking center stage.

    • @k2basior
      @k2basior 10 місяців тому +11

      They Could've made a Calyrex Movie and a Enemorus Movie (placed in Hisui).

    • @jeffreygao3956
      @jeffreygao3956 10 місяців тому +4

      I for one, would want to focus on minor characters from previous films or even antagonists like Bianca or Molly Hale.

    • @TankEngine75
      @TankEngine75 10 місяців тому +2

      And if they were Planned Gen 8 Mythical Designs, they may have probably been used for Gen 9 as normal Pokemon or something

    • @Zarugoza5969
      @Zarugoza5969 Місяць тому

      Pecharunt movie!

  • @ralpbeez8414
    @ralpbeez8414 10 місяців тому +13

    The company behind the anime, OLM is in the middle of a huge problematic workplace, with many employees quitting in the past years, and having really stressful working conditions on a tight schedule. For example, the the champion tournament was changed radically by the higher ups on short notice, which is why some battles are so very short/glossed over, they weren't intended that way.
    Horizons having a two week break (alongside episode 13 being part clip-show) is also another crack revealing itself of how much the team has to push out the anime in the time alloted, recall that the anime was the first place for the DLC turtle shown and it's not surprising.

  • @phoenixshadow6633
    @phoenixshadow6633 10 місяців тому +33

    8:30 It's also worth noting that the animation industry lives and dies with a ton of freelance work. With the pandemic causing a massive backlog of work (animation is a collaborative effort mind you), the industry tried to both play catch up with their backlog and take on more projects because more projects means more money. This means we have a shortage of time to make all these projects and manpower.

  • @bacd-nn2lg
    @bacd-nn2lg 10 місяців тому +37

    The main reason why we don't see Pokemon movies anymore was a Global Pandemic that happened in last few years ago. Right now we are are at entire new era with Liko, and Roy as main protagonists, so it will take OLM studio few years to make more Pokemon OVA's, and movies featuring new protagonists.

  • @typemasters2871
    @typemasters2871 10 місяців тому +30

    It is very interesting that gen 1-6 movies tie-in with the main anime series
    And then gen 7 had it’s own timeline of three movies
    Either way, if Koko is the last Pokemon movie, then I think that they have ended on a strong note, very emotional film

    • @rabbitbeargaming2441
      @rabbitbeargaming2441 10 місяців тому +4

      Secrets of the jungle was a very good movie imo. Did make me cry

    • @rabbitbeargaming2441
      @rabbitbeargaming2441 10 місяців тому

      @franksandoval6046 um I don't understand your question.

  • @henrykrebs6367
    @henrykrebs6367 10 місяців тому +5

    I could see the next Pokémon movie for a mythical being called “(Mythical Pokemon) and the treasures of ruin”

  • @MarioSonicDKPokeFAN
    @MarioSonicDKPokeFAN 10 місяців тому +12

    i knew i wasnt tripping! the last movie we saw was the Jungle Movie one. And that was during the 2nd season of the Journeys Anime. They didn't have a movie that year during Journey's final season of the series. That could have been nice to see Ash and Pikachu in their final glory, even though the movies became incredibly different ever since the Sun & Moon Genneration!

  • @goldlight1322
    @goldlight1322 10 місяців тому +20

    I could definitely see a Horizons movie at some point, but probably not so soon. Liko and Roy have JUST started their journeys and while I don’t know if we can expect them to stick around for the next 20 years, their arcs are clearly going to take a couple of seasons to resolve.

    • @JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache
      @JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache 10 місяців тому +2

      To be fair, Ash got a movie after only one year of the anime being out, so having a Horizons movie come out so soon wouldn't be that surprising.

    • @goldlight1322
      @goldlight1322 10 місяців тому +3

      @@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache Fair, but the Pokemon anime was also way more explosive in its popularity at the time. Horizons seems to be doing well enough, but I'm not sure Liko and Roy are having quite the same splash as Ash did at the start of his adventure.
      Also, if Horizons did get a movie, I feel like it would be better saved for the finale. Ash kind of just got swept up in big world-changing events while on his quest to be a Pokemon master, but Liko and Roy are actively following a mystery that feels set to have a big payoff at the end.

    • @franksandoval6046
      @franksandoval6046 22 дні тому

      @@goldlight1322 Pokémon Horizon move is coming and are you blaming China 🇨🇳 for the coronavirus pandemic 😷 ?

  • @pokepress
    @pokepress 10 місяців тому +11

    One issue with tying films to legendary/mythical Pokémon is that not all of them make compelling stories based on their abilities. Sometimes the movie works in spite of this (TFM, Zeraora, etc.) because the writers can craft an interesting plot around it, but sometimes they can’t/don’t (the Keldeo movie should have made that work, but probably was short on time/money).

    • @ralpbeez8414
      @ralpbeez8414 10 місяців тому +5

      The Keldeo movie was so bizarre, it's like everything wrong with the BW anime in a single film, nothing about the characters even remotely resembles any of the actual BW canon beyond the 3 musketeers being friends and keldeo being their student. Literally zero "hate/dislike" humans, and Kyurem has nothing to do with Reshiram/Zekrom.
      The only reason to watch it is if you're a huge keldeo fan really

    • @franksandoval6046
      @franksandoval6046 22 дні тому

      @@ralpbeez8414 who owns the rights to Pokémon Nintendo and the Pokemon company or Netflix ?

  • @Hip-Gnosis1134
    @Hip-Gnosis1134 10 місяців тому +55

    Honestly? I really enjoyed the first 6 or so movies. The last one I remember liking was “Lucario and the mystery of mew”. Not sure if they started getting worse, or if I was just growing out of it 🤷‍♂️
    Also, I remember during sun and moon, people were talking about leaks for the “next game” and basically gave the whole plot summary for the Zarude movie before it was ever announced. Anyone else remember hearing that rumor?

    • @zehlua
      @zehlua 10 місяців тому +5

      The pokemon movies DID stop being good after Lucario, you're not wrong

    • @Yoshyguy21
      @Yoshyguy21 10 місяців тому +23

      @@zehlua Nah that's not true at all. I haven't watched a Pokémon movie since the Zoroark one, but I do recall all of the ones I watched (Manaphy, Giratina, Arceus, Zoroark) to be pretty decent

    • @meyadin5844
      @meyadin5844 10 місяців тому +2

      i only watched the celebi one as of recently and that one was pretty ass ngl

    • @rabbitbeargaming2441
      @rabbitbeargaming2441 10 місяців тому

      ​@Yoshyguy21 the only pokemon movies I didn't see was the I choose you movie and the remake of the mewtwo strikes back. I myself really enjoyed the power of us and secrets of the jungle. The movies aren't bad well I didn't care for the lucario movie nor the keldeo movie. But that's me. My favorite is still the 3rd movie "spell of the unknown" though.

    • @joshyotoast
      @joshyotoast 10 місяців тому +1

      Watched the zarude one on netflix, was good but it was just avatar + tarzan with pokemon

  • @BanditX109
    @BanditX109 10 місяців тому +8

    I honestly do hope they bring back the Pokemon movies. I really enjoyed their movies especially movies from the first movie till the volcanion movie and detective pikachu and mewtwo strikes back remake. If they can't use mythical they can still use regular pokemon like in the past movies zoroark and lucario. Although I think the arceus chronicles could be a movie if you put all four parts together but idk if's it's classified as a movie or just a mini series.

  • @Zelda_91
    @Zelda_91 10 місяців тому +6

    also one big thing and i did not think anyone has brought up enough ,but OLM main and its overseas studio's are working on alot more anime shows outside of the pokemon these days(hell they even have two shows coming out this summer anime season) and they most likely dropped movies because of this too.

  • @realsalu634
    @realsalu634 10 місяців тому +14

    If only the games could get an 3+ years hiatus...
    It's been an very weird time for Pokemon recebtly, no movies, no Ash, barelly working games, i hope it gets better someday

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya 10 місяців тому

      They can't, sadly. Seeing how every other branch of the franchise adapts smething from the main games, that puts pressure on said games being released on time.

    • @TheConuresrule
      @TheConuresrule 10 місяців тому +3

      Pokemon is a soulless cash cow now. Absolute trash. But I'll keep my good memories of Pokemon from 98 to 2014 (last game I enjoyed was Pokemon Omega Ruby/Alpha sapphire.

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya 10 місяців тому +1

      @@TheConuresrule No, no it is not a "soulless cash cow".

    • @vivvy_0
      @vivvy_0 10 місяців тому +2

      @@toumabyakuyait’s not even a cow just a corpse wasting away 😂

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya 10 місяців тому +1

      @@vivvy_0 Is not that either.

  • @usermcskull4713
    @usermcskull4713 10 місяців тому +5

    I don't know if a Horizons movie would work because unlike Ash, Liko and Roy's stories so far have relied heavily on a continious narrative. There haven't been any filler episodes, it's a serialized show so they'd have three choices for a movie:
    - Make it have no affect on the show
    - Make it have an affect but recap it within the show
    - Make it have an affect but make it so small that people who don't watch the movie will still understand what's going on in the show, maybe Roy gets a new hat or a keychain.
    I think the third idea's most preferable, the Ash movies did something similar with the Lunar Wing. I just hope that if a movie happens, it actually matters a little bit to the narrative HZ has been creating

  • @wikiuser92
    @wikiuser92 10 місяців тому +8

    It's always refreshing to watch a new JPR video after my weekly sauna evening.

  • @giboit.
    @giboit. 10 місяців тому +41

    I don't care if mythicals are meant to advertise the movies or viceversa. As long as I like the pokemon I'm fine with it. At the end of the day it just means that I got a new pokemon AND a movie about it to watch. And I tend to like to get both of them.
    And I've been really enjoying Pokemon Horizons. It's great. And Liko is a pretty cool protagonist.

  • @redviolet5158
    @redviolet5158 10 місяців тому +3

    im still mad we never got a movie in the alola art style, of course the series most suited for fluid animation doesn't get to have the movie treatment...

  • @tktyga77
    @tktyga77 10 місяців тому +6

    At least if the movies do get made again, there would be chances for more polished works in the end, or at least the possibility of such

  • @swagkirby3449
    @swagkirby3449 10 місяців тому +2

    Phione, Meloetta, and Meltan/Melmetal are all Mythical Pokemon but they've never had movies

  • @FernandoStarkTargaryen
    @FernandoStarkTargaryen 10 місяців тому +9

    Your videos are always the funniest and accurate 😂 Love all of the content! Been a fan for a few years now, hope to see more ✌🏻

  • @pixelpiekser
    @pixelpiekser 10 місяців тому +13

    I guess that they could make the DLCs and their Contents as Movies at the End of the Anime Season. It doesnt matter if the Characters remember the Contents of the Movie as to me it seems like the Protagonists of the Anime will switch more offen now. Terapagos is most likely shinylocked and there are still many Legendaries they can distribute as Shinies for the Movies. Im sure Lico and Roy have magically disappeared in Generation 10 or something and we will see new Main Characters until they have found something more profitable.

  • @pokepress
    @pokepress 10 місяців тому +2

    FYI, I think the “30 million” for Pokémon 2000 is with the standard “marketing equal to production” increase. Production was probably 15 million.

    • @dwainsimmons3447
      @dwainsimmons3447 10 місяців тому +1

      I think the dubs have something to do with it

  • @TheInfinityFulcrum
    @TheInfinityFulcrum 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video!!!
    You should totally do a video talking about Pokémon Contests Vs Pokémon Showcases

  • @KuroBlitz
    @KuroBlitz 10 місяців тому +15

    I expected for 2021 to give us a dual-movie for Calyrex, with the Steeds being the "Unova Dragons".
    Sadly Hisuian Snow and Masters EX robbed us of having AU Ash in a PLA or Pasio related movie.

    • @JPRPokeTrainer98
      @JPRPokeTrainer98  10 місяців тому +8

      Ash is stuck in Pasio, he can never come back

    • @stephvondames6369
      @stephvondames6369 10 місяців тому +1

      Damn shame.🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @Quetzal00358
    @Quetzal00358 10 місяців тому +4

    I remember rewatching all the movies over quarantine. Hopefully we get another one soon and I am sure I will do another rewatch at som point in the future

  • @pokemaniacdavid
    @pokemaniacdavid 10 місяців тому +5

    It feels to me that they’re pouring their resources into the mobile app game because there’s a lot more money in it than movies. It may benefit them in the short term but I think it’s going to drive a lot of long term fans away. I’m already feeling a huge dip in interest tbh.

  • @PkmnTrainerEmerald
    @PkmnTrainerEmerald 10 місяців тому +9

    Ah the movies now made it to the what happened to series! To answer your pinned comment question, my all time favorite movie has to be the manaphy movie! Best story however has to be The power of us! Movie i think i like more than most is the hoopa movie! Loved the different shorts that came along with it just something special to that movie that really has been done since the early movies and really any movie now a days. I hope one day we can see movies return and maybe even do a video on what happened to the pikachu shorts cuz that has history too!

    • @rabbitbeargaming2441
      @rabbitbeargaming2441 10 місяців тому +2

      I loved the power of us. I think it has a very good story. I did cry though on the snubull scene...

    • @sophiehanssel2017
      @sophiehanssel2017 2 місяці тому +1

      YES! I want the Pikachu shorts to come back.

  • @pokepress
    @pokepress 10 місяців тому +1

    I see 4 possibilities for the next animated Pokémon movie:
    -Another AU movie
    -Another CGI remake (probably The Power of One)
    -An original CGI movie (Mystery Dungeon, perhaps?)
    -A movie in the Horizons universe
    I don’t think they’re completely giving up on animated films, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they skipped next year as well. Maybe we’ll hear something at Worlds next month.

  • @shinyumbreon-jb3cp
    @shinyumbreon-jb3cp 10 місяців тому +3

    I wonder what happen to all Pokemon DVDs containing any original Japanese version with subtitles...

  • @GabrielaRafael1982
    @GabrielaRafael1982 10 місяців тому +2

    They could make more movies about AU Ash since his journey hasn’t ended yet right?

  • @LuigiTheMetal64
    @LuigiTheMetal64 10 місяців тому +10

    The Lugia movie is the best in the first trilogy Pokémon movies, especially in Japanese. The characters go to different places than being in a castle the whole time.

  • @LuckyLadybug66
    @LuckyLadybug66 3 місяці тому

    Very interesting topic! I've wondered about this as well, and also why there were no movies taking place in the Alola or Journeys settings.

  • @IlDogeIslamico
    @IlDogeIslamico 10 місяців тому

    One of the best video on your channel, congrats 🎉

  • @ClefairyFairySnowflake
    @ClefairyFairySnowflake 10 місяців тому +14

    I hope there are more pokemon movies in the future! Please make it happen!

    • @c0mpu73rguy
      @c0mpu73rguy 10 місяців тому

      Lol nope, they're trash.

    • @ClefairyFairySnowflake
      @ClefairyFairySnowflake 10 місяців тому +1

      @@c0mpu73rguy If you don't like them, you don't have to watch them. You are entitled to your own opinion.

    • @c0mpu73rguy
      @c0mpu73rguy 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ClefairyFairySnowflake Yep but since it's a free country, I should be able to express said opinion. Shouldn't I? (and obviously, I haven't watched a pokemon movie since movie... 7 or 8? The one with the Groudon monster thing)

    • @BlinkArmy4
      @BlinkArmy4 5 місяців тому

      @@c0mpu73rguynobody is telling you not to write your opinion, but to understand the difference between opinions and statements. You clearly wrote your thought as a statement than an actual opinion.

  • @LuigiTheMetal64
    @LuigiTheMetal64 10 місяців тому +3

    Streaming services are declining because of the content being censored and/or removed at any time.

  • @5Porygon
    @5Porygon 8 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for all videos you made. You are one of my absolutely best youtubers ever. :)
    Jsi borec. Mám moc rád tvoji tvorbu.

  • @lawrencebautista1
    @lawrencebautista1 10 місяців тому +5

    It's unfortunate they have stopped this tradition of distributing mythicals through movies, as well as a sneak peak of next gen pokemon and legendaries in the ongoing gen movies. If indeed Satoshi will still reprise his role in the movies after M23, it will most likely be AU Satoshi, perhaps a continuation of JNS05 special episode "A Distant Blue Sky" but now wearing his OS hat from the main series timeline. I hope they'll retain M20 art style though, I didn't like the art style of M21 and M23.

  • @aliabbasi7497
    @aliabbasi7497 10 місяців тому +10

    What bugs me is that, they established a new timeline with ash in the i choose you universe, they could use that universe for movies and show us a glimpse of ash's team since he isn't a champion in that universe and still can be traveling galar and paldea like a normal trainer trying to challenge the league. I like liko but i choose you universe ash should star in the movies provided they show his team of the current gen and not just pikachu(I didn't like the fact that ash only had pikachu in the zarude movie). Liko's story should be anime exclusive and so for what I've seen it's best that it concludes during gen 9 since milking it won't be as easy.

  • @johnax4124
    @johnax4124 10 місяців тому +12

    Yo I didn't think you'd make it a video at least not this soon lol, thanks. I guess it turns out the timing was good since this week always released them. I guess what's weird to me is they likely make mythicals in advance (as we can see when you could datamine them in past gens) so like, I feel like there's a decent chance there would be like cancelled mythicals if COVID is a big part of why for like a 2021 distribution event in SwSh

  • @KBox1991
    @KBox1991 Місяць тому +1

    The Pokémon movies used to be canon in the anima then become alternate universe. The big problem with alternate universe is that it doesn’t matter to the rest of franchise.

  • @KingsNerdCave
    @KingsNerdCave Місяць тому +1

    It's a shame cause the movies are a lot of fun and a great yearly tradition for some people. Even the weakest of pokemon movies have good elements to them. It's likely a combination of the studio taking on new projects while being overworked as well as the new era for the series, needing to develop Liko and Roy more before giving them their own movie. The movies I hope to see return one day. And a great eventual movie should be one about a young adult Ash, it could grab the attention of older viewers who wouldn't be invested in the movies anymore.

  • @Brians_Fandom
    @Brians_Fandom 10 місяців тому +2

    Game freak ≠ Pokémon anime. I’m surprised people think this way. Personally for the Pokémon movies it may still be a while to determine where it goes from here, horizons just cam out the other month

  • @mushroomdude123
    @mushroomdude123 10 місяців тому +2

    It’s also worth noting that the quality of these movies have always been very inconsistent. Mewtwo Strikes Back, Lucario and the Mystery of Mew, and Rise of Darkrai are great movies in my opinion. But then you have Celebi: Voice of the Forest, I Choose You and basically every Gen 5/6 movie that are painful to sit through.
    If these movies are going to be treated as disposable junk then we shouldn’t be shocked when we stop getting them.

  • @TSLstudio2010
    @TSLstudio2010 10 місяців тому +2

    Pokemon movie 1-12 were at least 'canon' movies (with some absolute great ones! Like 1-2, 8, 10-12) after that they started to get meh... sometimes decent ones but worse.
    Although the alternate universe ones likes Power of Us, where quite good/refreshing.

  • @Meap-nv4rv
    @Meap-nv4rv 9 місяців тому

    one of the big anime that's out as a part of the summer 2023 line up is called Zom 100. The show's staff consist of ex studio OLM employees so there is a good chance Studio Bug (the new studio) is part of the reason

  • @JDjade1
    @JDjade1 10 місяців тому +2

    I think you nailed it at 8:33. With less staff-and possibly financial resources-than you've had in the past, what productions do you prioritize? I'm sure OLM produces other shows aside from Pokemon, and I would have to believe the money is in making television episodes to attract the ad revenue from commercials.
    And my favorite movie is Jirachi: Wish Maker. Its a guilty pleasure. I know it wasn't the best made movie.

  • @mattsterical577
    @mattsterical577 10 місяців тому +2

    3:29 people think gamefreak is responsible for 100% of everything that goes on pokemon related, so this isn't really surprising.

  • @adolfolunamunoz8128
    @adolfolunamunoz8128 10 місяців тому +1

    They should have made a movie about the legendary Pokemon Calirex he never appeared in the anime

  • @chadmartin3423
    @chadmartin3423 10 місяців тому +1

    Journeys should have had Darkest Day be a full length movie instead of 1.5 episodes in the series.

  • @HewleyxAngel
    @HewleyxAngel 10 місяців тому +2

    I’m absolutely fascinated by the law of diminishing returns here, because I think something parallel happened much faster in the US, because after 4ever, none of the movies got a theatrical release, at least in my area. I remember going to see Mewtwo Strikes Back, 2000, 3, and 4ever (I recently found my ancient Mew promo card in the course of moving). But then I had no luck *seeing* any of the movies until Keldeo made a midday premier on Cartoon Network like 10+ years later. Subsequently with the move to streaming, I haven’t been able to find any of the DVDs after Magearna.
    I think the thing that surprised me most were the low returns on Hoopa and the Clash of Ages though, that one’s got some classic Showa Era Godzilla movie energy and I love it. But I know I have a strange taste in movies sometimes. Go figure.

    • @pokepress
      @pokepress 10 місяців тому +1

      Judging from what I’ve seen on iTunes, the Hoopa movie is actually pretty popular (in the West?), possibly even before Hoopa appeared in Masters and Go.
      Also, movie 5 (heroes) did get a limited release (like movie 4 did).

  • @liamking8983
    @liamking8983 10 місяців тому +2

    I watched the zarude movie a while back. It's pokemon's version of Tarzan but I still enjoyed it. Like the 2 movies before it they did have the topic of death in pokemon

  • @mezzovii
    @mezzovii 10 місяців тому

    my dream pokemon movie is an all-pokemon cast, and features all the previous mythicals as they go on an adventure or save the world or something. while also featuring a brand new mythical to join them! perhaps the distribution could be getting the new mythical + 1 old mythical of your choice?

  • @Lucasfan375
    @Lucasfan375 10 місяців тому +1

    This is going to be a really hard situation for the Pokémon company. They'll probably wait and see if the new anime protagonists are popular enough to carry a movie, the anime in general or not. Which I don't see them as iconic as the original characters. They'll probably stand on their own and get replaced with other protagonists.

  • @Theloster
    @Theloster 10 місяців тому +1

    I think that since both Journeys and Horizons dont take place in just one region, the writers can write arcs that feels like movies.
    also, a lot of money is spent on movies because they're big deals, in every anime, the voice actors for movie characters are famous and they demand a lot of money.
    in this year, i watched all of Bleach's 4 movies and let me tell you something:
    Ganryū, the main villain for the first movie is voiced by Masashi Ebara, the voice actor of Might Guy and Raizo.
    Sōjirō, the main villain for the second movies is voiced by Akira Ishida, the voice actor of Gaara, Edo Phoenix and Katsura.
    Shizuku, the male main villain for the third movie is voiced by Hiroshi Kamiya, the voice actor of Levi Ackerman and Trafalgar Law.
    Homura, the female main villain for the third movie is voice by Aya Hirano, Lucy's voice actress.
    Kokutō, one of the 2 main villains for the fourth movie is voiced by Kazuya Nakai, the voice actor of Zoro and Toshiro Hijikata.
    Shuren, the second main villain for the fourth movie is voiced by Tōru Furuya, voice actor of Yamcha and Sabo.

  • @maganhassan2627
    @maganhassan2627 10 місяців тому +1

    It's a shame though because I thought i choose you era films were a breath of fresh air to me

  • @squidink7453
    @squidink7453 10 місяців тому +3

    I think a Horizons movie will happen next year 2024 or they could just make a Pokémon movie that is completely different with a new main character or something in the future.

  • @xbertron
    @xbertron 10 місяців тому +2

    The craziest record during that 2020 is that demon slayer muger train movie got 330 million dollars grossed at the time of this year . But how did they managed to come up getting a money like this 🤔
    Btw ,the only highest grossing movie was the first ever that 1999 pokemon movie .

  • @NextLevelZ_
    @NextLevelZ_ 10 місяців тому

    I've watched all of the pokemon movies so many times now, so it's definitely sad to see this result of them.

  • @deanfry879
    @deanfry879 10 місяців тому +3

    Ash really had a supporting role in "Secrets of the Jungle." They could have substituted other characters for Ash and Team Rocket without changing the movie very much. They could also make movies around some of Ash's companions rather than Ash himself. Considering the success of shows like "My Little Pony," focusing on Pokemon Coordinators/Performers would seem to have a good chance of being successful.

    • @pokepress
      @pokepress 10 місяців тому

      I think there’s a strong argument for a longitudinal/coming of age Misty movie, though that could be done in live action as well.

    • @franksandoval6046
      @franksandoval6046 10 місяців тому

      @@pokepress why they didn’t put Lillie and Mallow and Lana and Sophocles and Kiawe and Goh and Chloe why ?

    • @GaionSputro
      @GaionSputro 3 місяці тому

      ​@@franksandoval6046 what about a movie where pokemon themselves are made able to talk. So no need for human characters.

  • @shanaheart3510
    @shanaheart3510 10 місяців тому +1

    Since Ash journey ended with pikachu, I can see why movies could end or take time to bring make, since Ash was the cast for pokemon and Liko and Roy became his replacements. Still maybe they can still do movies with casts like the playable characters in games or adapt a movie from the mangas.

  • @jaredhamilton425
    @jaredhamilton425 10 місяців тому +1

    I still wish we got an Alola movie and a Journeys movie instead of cgi remakes and alternate universes.

  • @sparktaylor8489
    @sparktaylor8489 10 місяців тому

    Damn you know that jpr season 4 is different when he covers the anime/movies.

  • @htfs493
    @htfs493 7 місяців тому +1

    I think it would be cool if the movies featured Ash in the original universe while letting the show remain focused on the new protagonists. That way, we get to watch new characters grow and develop in the show while also getting to know what crazy adventure Ash is up to in the movies once a year. I’d say that’s a best of both worlds. Fans can enjoy the development of new protagonists without having to say goodbye to the old one.

  • @PokeTuber33376
    @PokeTuber33376 4 місяці тому

    There is one movie still in development. Its Detective Pikachu 2. It has been in development since 2019. Considering the second game came out in October there is at least one to look forward too.

    • @LeanPicachu
      @LeanPicachu 4 місяці тому

      There's most likely a second one too

  • @BulbaWhat98
    @BulbaWhat98 3 місяці тому

    We just got a new mythical Pokemon with Pecharunt so maybe there's some hope for a new movie. Potentially this year since Pokemon is skipping out a year on a mainline game and they can use Pecharunt and a movie about it to fill in the gap or something. Though this mythical has already been released before any potential movie, and all the other things you mentioned could mean we aren't getting one this year. I guess we'll just see what happens

  • @ShadowXeldron
    @ShadowXeldron 10 місяців тому +2

    I've only seen the Hoopa and Genesect movies, and both of them were on CITV. I didn't watch either of them live, and were recorded to our Sky box. Truth be told, the Pokemon movies were probably just direct-to-video cashgrabs. It's possible that the current anime might get a feature length at some point near the end of its story (I've heard a few animes do that, but I don't actually watch any anime so I can't say for certain; hell I stopped watching the Pokemon one during the Sun & Moon season) As for Ash, he's probably coming back for a big conflict in the last season of Horizons or something as a way of hyping up the finale and boosting ratings.

  • @TheGamerninja15
    @TheGamerninja15 10 місяців тому +2

    Instead of Pokémon aim to be a Pokémon Master, I would rather have a movie release on the 26th anniversary of Pokémon and have Ash's story conclude from there with the post-credits scene being Ash vs Red, the battle of the multiversal Pokémon Masters.

  • @Zanolith
    @Zanolith 10 місяців тому +1

    Most people watching this video: Huh, this is really interesting…
    Me: Is that the Xenoblade 3 soundtrack!?!?!?

  • @Godzilla00X
    @Godzilla00X 10 місяців тому +3

    Make a proper movie with Ash entering some big tournament and using his old mons

  • @eddiec9756
    @eddiec9756 10 місяців тому

    When Covid first started I decided to rewatch all the Pokemon movies in the build-up to Mewtwo Strikes Back Evolution getting its dub and some movies still held up 10-15 years after I originally watched them. At the same time, others were really bad and I could understand the lower box office. I at least got to see the Zoroark movie in theaters during the Black and White Tour in Califonia. It's too bad that we are at the end of the pokemon movie era for the foreseeable future. It would be really cool if they pulled a yugioh like move on us and the next pokemon movie would see Ash meeting the other pokemon anime protagonist like Liko/Roy, Red, or even the alternate universe version of himself.

  • @Rickythegoat6978
    @Rickythegoat6978 10 місяців тому

    Finally someone will answer the question i've been reading for like the past three years

  • @rose7659
    @rose7659 10 місяців тому

    I'm currently rewatching the Pokemon movies, so this couldn't have come out at a better time.

  • @500938ful
    @500938ful 10 місяців тому +1

    Id imagine if they make a movie with the new cast in the next few years, theyll make a canon one with an ash cameo to rake in the cash

  • @MeaningPlum1995
    @MeaningPlum1995 10 місяців тому +3

    no ash=no watch

  • @jbcatz5
    @jbcatz5 10 місяців тому +1

    While it wasn’t promoting a new mythical, Lucario and the Mystery of Mew does have a new for the time Pokemon up front and center in Lucario, where its Aura abilities were a key part of the plot. And Lucario is a fan favorite to the point Ash got one in Journeys.
    And that’s the thing, the new Pokémon tend to be the USP beyond the fact it’s a Pokémon film even as the new Pokémon became more formulaic or less relevant to the plots as the films continued to the point Secrets of the Jungle made little impact. The XY movies especially Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanian and Magearna just didn’t have either the likeability or memorability of past characters in the earlier moves (nobody expected Volcanian to be truly dead). I Choose You had a bump because the AU was the USP even though Marshadow was more plot device than proper character (not using the Alola setting also hurt it because it’s inspired by local folklore from Hawaii) but The Power of Us didn’t bring much new to the table in terms of marketing and Zeaora was very interchangeable in its role.

  • @ReijiNRen
    @ReijiNRen 10 місяців тому +1

    I loved most of the pokemon movies, besides a certain few legendary mashup movies. The last one was pretty much pokemon tarzan so it makes sense why it wasn't as well received. It was less creative than other entries. I think personally I'm biased to the Lucario movie as he is one of my favorite mons, but I think The Power of Us has trumped the Lucario movie shockingly as my favorite. It was well made. I loved all the individual storylines and as a writer myself, that made me happy.

  • @LuigiTheMetal64
    @LuigiTheMetal64 10 місяців тому

    It makes no sense how 'Chiisaki Mono' by Asuka Hayashi was sampled in the Jirachi movie 4Kids version, despite Teen Titans and Pokémon being shown on Cartoon Network that Puffy are known for the Teen Titans theme song, 'Hajimari no Uta' got replaced with 'We Will Meet Again' by John Siegler in the Lucario movie 4Kids version.

  • @BestgirlJordanfish
    @BestgirlJordanfish 10 місяців тому

    I would love to see a new Pokemon movie with new characters, really just a celebration of Pokemon and giving the feeling of being a person in this world

  • @hanktank45
    @hanktank45 10 місяців тому

    I really wouldn't mind if they took some time and made a bigger project. I know they won't because that isn't the quick profit scheme they have been adopting. Some of the first few movies are genuinely impressive. As someone that doesn't watch the regular anime the first 5 or so movies were incredible. I really enjoyed the more mature themes and the single sitting storytelling, also the shorts are some of the cutest pokemon content we have, the pichu bros is my childhood.

  • @deanfry879
    @deanfry879 10 місяців тому +2

    How did the live action "Detective Pikachu" do in comparison to the other movies?

    • @pokepress
      @pokepress 10 місяців тому +1

      Much higher return (450-500 million box office worldwide), but also much higher budget (over 100 million). Also much longer production time.

  • @gamestation2690
    @gamestation2690 10 місяців тому +1

    You should have said "the straw the broke the Camerupt's back."

  • @FullOedipus
    @FullOedipus 10 місяців тому +1

    They're probably are still writing the new movie with the new characters based on the new dlc. They could also be waiting until the new series finishes aring it's 1st season. Also you have to remember they have gen9 to update, plus about 7 spinoff games and the anime to promote at the moment. Regardless I doubt the next movie comes out before the dlc, and I doubt even moreso that Ash is going to be in the movie in any capacity larger than a co-star to pass the pervebial torch.

  • @Hainaut183
    @Hainaut183 10 місяців тому +1

    Mugen Train came out just two months before the last Pokémon movie and became the highest-grossing anime film of all time, beating out Spirited Away. Granted, Demon Slayer is the hot new show and the film was necessary to the continuity of the canon, but even the pandemic can't totally explain Secret of the Jungle's failure.

  • @ASJ2040
    @ASJ2040 10 місяців тому +3

    Just make movies with Ash facing champion level
    Issues that need to be resolved. He can change his team out every movie and keep it moving!

    • @k2basior
      @k2basior 10 місяців тому +5

      Ash joins Master 8 to fight vs Rainbow Rocket using Legendary Pokemon

    • @xenomorph733
      @xenomorph733 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@k2basiorthey should make him order. show who he becomes as an adult if they advertise it that way they would make money

    • @Mew_Stor
      @Mew_Stor 10 місяців тому +2

      Yes great idea then he finally needs to fight Giovanni

  • @autumbreeze1129
    @autumbreeze1129 10 місяців тому

    I've most of the Pokemon movies on DVD.
    The only one I'm missing is Mewtwo Returns.
    Though I actively chose not to have the Keldeo movie and everything main timeline wise after the movies went into Kalos and beyond because I was so incredibly bored watching those.
    I do have all 3 of the Alternate Universe Ash movies though.

  • @pokepress
    @pokepress 10 місяців тому

    We also have to consider the effect the success of Detective Pikachu on the franchise. While a direct movie sequel is in the works, I suspect Pokemon has been pitched other ideas, which may be taking up some oxygen.

  • @kylerobarts7237
    @kylerobarts7237 4 місяці тому

    You should do a what happened to pokemon duel!

  • @LuigiTheMetal64
    @LuigiTheMetal64 10 місяців тому

    Surprising despite the name Porno Graffitti, they are able to have the song 'Breath' in a movie. I guess it is better than Barenaked Ladies having a song in Chicken Little since that Disney movie is a mean-spirited movie that tried to be a Dreamworks movie.

  • @amazingspidermew
    @amazingspidermew 10 місяців тому

    It’s a bit of a shame, I enjoyed a lot of the newer movies that they put out but then again ease of access via Netflix was the reason I even saw them in the first place.

  • @ImyIsStillHere
    @ImyIsStillHere 10 місяців тому

    Ohhhh i love those movies, ill miss them :(

  • @austingomez9630
    @austingomez9630 10 місяців тому

    I'm going to be sad that we will not get a continuation on the alternate timeline of Ash because I remember the Pokemon people saying something about this Ash would age throughout his movies, but I understand if they bring him back it would cheapen his retirement😢 and they're going to want to focus on their new two protagonist liko and roy.
    Still feels unfair 😢😢😢

  • @andyz6306
    @andyz6306 10 місяців тому

    Honestly I didn't even notice mythicals vanished, but I haven't played a game since 2017, so i guess that's why.

  • @otaviopalanca
    @otaviopalanca 10 місяців тому

    JPR! How come you didn't mention the final trailer for the movie that never happened?

  • @WiiFan-1300
    @WiiFan-1300 9 місяців тому

    THANK YOU! 👏

  • @krispychiken5279
    @krispychiken5279 10 місяців тому

    We are definitely in a rough spot with Pokemon movies, if we ever get another Pokemon movie, it has to be able to attract attention like M20. Mythicals have also made it more complicated and I think TPC and Game Freak want to let go of Mythicals especially with intences like Keldeo, Mew, Manaphy, and the god of all Pokémon, Arceus being obtainable forever. Let's not forget that Shinji Miyazaki retired from making the music from the movies. While Conisch would work, Miyazaki has put the identity of the music in the movies.

  • @bdt2002gaming
    @bdt2002gaming 9 місяців тому

    And then Detective Pikachu, a live action movie based on a spin-off game that barely anyone actually played, came out of nowhere and made over $400 million in the box office, and that’s considering every movie in 2019 existed in the shadow of some of Disney’s major flicks of the year, and it even outperformed some of THOSE.
    That alone might be the biggest W Creatures Inc. has ever taken as a company knowing how the animated ones have done.

  • @evotheevolutions9437
    @evotheevolutions9437 10 місяців тому

    I just want to see a movie that bridges the ash arc with the new one. Something like ash training thew new cast or showing how ash retired and where he is now.