Beethoven Symphony n3 op.55 - Eduard van Beinum (rare video)

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  • Опубліковано 28 сер 2012
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  • @alexeyizmirliev64
    @alexeyizmirliev64 9 років тому +12

    Madonna, che tecnica direttoriale. Incredibile. Prima volta lo vedo il grande Van!

  • @user-uv5ss9rn5o
    @user-uv5ss9rn5o 3 роки тому +3

    He leaves no room for criticizing his conducting. Powerful and Straight... as well as... Elegant and Clear...

  • @viewerzzzz
    @viewerzzzz 3 роки тому +5

    Oh, fantastic! As a teenager, I attended many live concerts of van Beinum's performances when he conducted the LA Philharmonic in the late 1950s. This Eroica is so beautifully shaped and cleanly articulated. His conducting gestures range from tiny, almost motionless to broad and fully expressive. His native orchestra is magnificent, perfectly attuned to his every nuance. What a treat to hear such a fine performance of his after all these years! Thank you for this.

  • @MusicMan-dv7jg
    @MusicMan-dv7jg 3 роки тому +5

    Eduard van Beinum, second conductor of the Concertgebouworkest since 1931, took over from Mengelberg in 1945. During the post-war years he developed into a conductor much loved by both the public and the orchestra. The changes that took place in society at that time also made their mark on the profession of conductor. From the traditional position of 'maestro’, the position of principal conductor evolved into one of ‘musician among musicians’. And this certainly suited van Beinum’s character. Under his leadership, the orchestra developed an affinity with the French repertoire and Bruckner gained a permanent position on the stage in Amsterdam. Van Beinum died unexpectedly during a rehearsal in April 1959. He was succeeded by the young Bernard Haitink.

    • @diegoruvalcabapena5240
      @diegoruvalcabapena5240 3 роки тому

      If he was the 3rd director of the concertgebouw, why don't I remember which director was before Mengelberg

    • @leestamm3187
      @leestamm3187 2 роки тому

      @@diegoruvalcabapena5240 First was Willem Kes, from 1888 until 1895, when Mengelberg became chief conductor.

    • @kennethdower7425
      @kennethdower7425 Рік тому

      Haitink and E. Jochum became co-chief conductors for a couple of years before Haitink assumed the position by himself.

  • @A60stock
    @A60stock 11 років тому +2

    Van Beinum was a musicians conductor who's results were always intelligent and most musical. He was dogged by poor health in his last 10 years and died at the early age of 59. he was helped by the Concertgebouw Orchestra, it was and still is one of the best.
    Thanks for posting .

  • @lionelthiebaud7081
    @lionelthiebaud7081 7 місяців тому +1

    Immense Van Beinum, chef d'orchestre quasiment pas connu du grand public sauf des mélomanes avertis, sublime version de la 3ème de Beethoven, tension , justesse des tempos , l'orchestre d'Amsterdam en état de grâce comme très souvent, merveilleuse version

  • @EDU530CI
    @EDU530CI 10 років тому +8

    Wonderful-a wonderful conductor, a magnificent orchestra, a grand performance.

  • @eduardocomesana7956
    @eduardocomesana7956 7 років тому +2

    This live concert was telecast on May 5, 1957 and van Beinum died a couple of years later, on April 13, 1959. First rate.

  • @remomazzetti8757
    @remomazzetti8757 4 роки тому +5

    A great performance and a precious document of an excellent but somewhat underrated conductor. He's the polar opposite of Mengleberg, but I love both of their interpretations of Beethoven symphonies.

  • @giovannirivoira5496
    @giovannirivoira5496 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you so much for allowing us to hear and see the fantastic director Van Beinum!!what a technical skill and what a performance!!!

  • @billducker7404
    @billducker7404 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic Thank you for this. God bless you. Bill. UK

  • @MrPrincetrumpet
    @MrPrincetrumpet 6 років тому +6

    So, elegant! I have heard of Van Beinum for years and finally get to see and hear. Thank you for posting, truly.

    • @MrPrincetrumpet
      @MrPrincetrumpet 6 років тому +4

      The orchestra plays with incredible joy. Damn, this is beautiful.

  • @nannojonkers3817
    @nannojonkers3817 10 років тому +2

    Thx. for this rare video of van Beinum. I just missed his time; from 1967 been living in Amsterdam and he would have been 67or 68 then. It is so sound reticent musical what he did. And the orchestra sings; even in the 'allegro con brio'.(It doesn't in the 'Eroica' of e.g. Gardiner.)

    • @dutchcub
      @dutchcub 4 роки тому +1

      You talk about Gardiner but for me he is always ruining most music. He is English and imho everything he is conducting is stiff and he thinks he always knows better. Once a friend of mine who plays in the Concertgebouw Orchestra told me Gardiner is a bad director and does not always know what he is doing. The orchestra can play well without him and saved him many times during concerts. Gardiner's Mozarts (operas) are always without the wit and naughtiness Mozart had, so flat. This is real conducting and playing. I am proud of this orchestra. Love them and always will do. As said by others before, I prefer the ' old' style of playing. Much better than all these recordings nowadays.

  • @Leibo07
    @Leibo07 7 років тому +6

    Nice to see/hear Van Beinum on YT more often. Although he died prematurely, he was influential and exemplary for our classical music scene. For Bernard Haitink and Ed Spanjaard he was the most important Dutch musician. Also, Otto Klemperer held him in high esteem btw.

    • @jacobtapianieto9655
      @jacobtapianieto9655 6 років тому +1

      You're right! And I can testify it because Ed Spanjaard is currently my conducting teacher. He talks to the class much about Eduard van Beinum. More than a conductor, van Beinum was a true artist.

    • @hectorberlioz1449
      @hectorberlioz1449 2 роки тому

      Do not forget Willem van Otterloo, together with Mengelberg and van Beinum the three greatest dutch conductors, also concerning Haitink.

    • @douglasmurphy6214
      @douglasmurphy6214 6 місяців тому

      Well if klemperer held him in high regard that is indeed something klemperer was a titan and conducted bruckner and mahler as did van beinum and horenstein

  • @ljiljanastanic9076
    @ljiljanastanic9076 7 років тому +3

    Thanks for this wonderful video...It s exciting to watch a great conductor and his orchestra...phenomenal!

  • @MusicMan-dv7jg
    @MusicMan-dv7jg 3 роки тому +4

    The RCO website indicates this performance was recorded on May 5, 1957.

  • @douglasmurphy6214
    @douglasmurphy6214 6 місяців тому +1

    Maestro van beinum one of the best no doubt a powerful erotica and his brahms 1 on a mono london lp is one of the very best

  • @itismusic4life
    @itismusic4life 11 років тому +2

    Fantastic! Thank you, it brings back great memories. I heard him in Bruckner 8, in the mid fifties and my first ever Bruckner!

  • @robertnylund3859
    @robertnylund3859 7 років тому +2

    This was the first time I saw Eduard van Beinum conduct and I really enjoyed this performance of Beethoven's great symphony. I found it interesting that he did not use a baton, but it didn't seem to be a problem for the musicians of this very fine orchestra.

  • @panteraminato3179
    @panteraminato3179 9 місяців тому +2

    ベイヌムの演奏は常に剛毅、猪突猛進、ハードボイルド。
    だから好き。
    The best performance of LVB sym.3 on earth!

  • @donbenham1
    @donbenham1 11 років тому +2

    Thank you! Now I want to see even more visuals of Van Beinum!
    Magnificent!

  • @jnsurg947
    @jnsurg947 9 років тому +3

    What a rare film! I had his LP in my middle school days. I read many articles about him in music journals. An old story. Eduard van Beinum,
    "Éroica"

  • @johnfrancis9491
    @johnfrancis9491 7 років тому +10

    A big performance in every way, including the size of the orchestra - eight horns! They don't play Beethoven like that any more, even in Amsterdam. More's the pity.

    • @johnfalstaff2270
      @johnfalstaff2270 7 років тому +4

      Today? Nobody plays as good as all those artists from the past. I only listen to them and only their recordings are in my private collection.

  • @123must
    @123must 12 років тому +1

    Beautiful and historical !
    Thanks a lot

  • @miamadojesus
    @miamadojesus 3 роки тому +1

    Una gran interpretación de la "Heroica", por este gran director... Lástima que no indique el año de la grabación...!!! Pero muchas gracias por bajarla a Internet.

  • @barakderfarber
    @barakderfarber 6 років тому +3

    Quando si dice nascere direttori... In quelle mani c'è tutto quello che serve.

  • @josephlewis6181
    @josephlewis6181 3 роки тому +2

    Wonderful!

  • @diegoruvalcabapena5240
    @diegoruvalcabapena5240 3 роки тому +2

    De las viejas técnicas de dirección orquestal la técnica del maestro Van Beinum es la mejor

  • @ivanbeshkov1718
    @ivanbeshkov1718 Рік тому +2

    Great conductor, not too hasty. The first movement could be called the apotheosis of the minuet.

  • @yolainesene8691
    @yolainesene8691 6 років тому +1

    Thank you !

  • @topclassical
    @topclassical 5 місяців тому

    Grand!

  • @kennethdower7425
    @kennethdower7425 Рік тому +2

    That's the great Tibor de Machula fiddling with his violoncello in the beginning.

  • @MrGer2295
    @MrGer2295 11 років тому +1

    GREAT!!! What a TREASURES!!!

  • @karldelavigne8134
    @karldelavigne8134 4 роки тому +3

    Interesting that Haitink's conducting gestures, and even body language, are so similar to van Beinum's. He must have assimilated these through observation.

  • @marcogutierrez9630
    @marcogutierrez9630 Рік тому +1

    Saludos Arequipa-Perú 😀😀😀

  • @user-yo5ju4pd3l
    @user-yo5ju4pd3l 11 місяців тому

    ブラームスの第一交響曲演奏と同様の快適なテンポとパワフルさを兼ね備えた非常な秀演。それにしても、メンゲルベルクに鍛え抜かれたアムステルダム・コンセルトヘボウの優秀さが際立つ。

  • @pietcreutzberg7136
    @pietcreutzberg7136 6 років тому +2

    Eduard van Beinum, een musicus met de andere musici. Een baton zou in dit geval alleen afbreuk doen.

  • @user-ry3tw9sz6y
    @user-ry3tw9sz6y Рік тому

    Bravo!!!!

  • @donbenham1
    @donbenham1 11 років тому

    I love the horns in the trio of the Scherzo

  • @niklakislakis6557
    @niklakislakis6557 12 років тому

    Massive but not Loud!..I enjoyed it...very good work!

  • @Krtek254
    @Krtek254 10 років тому

    Thanks, Nanno!
    My friend (flautist) told me, Barwahser often played a silver flute, while his name is well-known for his wooden instrument.

  • @victorbernard284
    @victorbernard284 7 років тому +1

    serait intéressant parmi d'autres versions de faire une ecoute a l'aveugle!
    je suis persuade que cette version serait dans les premières si ce n'est dans le trio de tête!

  • @yaelpalombo4093
    @yaelpalombo4093 11 місяців тому

    😍💖

  • @johnfalstaff2270
    @johnfalstaff2270 7 років тому +2

    Magnificently powerful interpretation. I like Eduard van Beinum more than any other Dutch conductor in Concertgebow history. Also acoustic here is perfect. Sounds here as good as stereo. Similar to the Boston Symphony Hall when Sergei Koussevitzky recorded the same Beethoven masterpiece in 1944. I do not know when it was recorded. Probably in the late 1950-ties. Someone says that it took place in 1957. Possibly. Eduard van Beinum was a self taught talent. Today, not many knows this fact...

    • @pietcreutzberg7136
      @pietcreutzberg7136 6 років тому +2

      I know when. It was the 5th of may 1957. It was liberationday in Holland.

  • @NikosBolos
    @NikosBolos 8 років тому +1

    Ένας μεγάλος μαέστρος με πλούσιο έργο,. ! ! ! !

  • @maroboe
    @maroboe 7 років тому

    Beautiful oboesound

  • @loveItalia-py6gp
    @loveItalia-py6gp 2 роки тому

    Bravi...

  • @Gennariello1927
    @Gennariello1927 8 років тому +1

    08:14

  • @diegoruvalcabapena5240
    @diegoruvalcabapena5240 3 роки тому

    La técnica de Van Beinum me recuerda a la de Herman sherchen

  • @rfalv
    @rfalv 3 роки тому +1

    Wonderful, a treasure. And no Baton. I hate baton except from Monteux.

  • @Krtek254
    @Krtek254 10 років тому

    Haakon Stotijn plays the first oboe here.
    The first flautist uses a silver instrument, while the Concertgebouw Orchestra has been famous for their wooden flutes at the time of Hubert Balwa...(forgot, how to spell!).Does anyone know who is this first flautist?

    • @nannojonkers3817
      @nannojonkers3817 10 років тому

      Bahrwasser was his name.

    • @nannojonkers3817
      @nannojonkers3817 10 років тому

      Nanno Jonkers I 'll do resarch for the name of the 1th flautist. Patience.

    • @markokassenaar4387
      @markokassenaar4387 7 років тому

      Also: notice the bassoons sitting behind the clarinets! Not next to them. Looks like they are considered the bass section of the brass.

    • @paulvandenham6002
      @paulvandenham6002 7 років тому

      But this IS Hubert Barwahser !!!

  • @Twentythousandlps
    @Twentythousandlps День тому

    Another no-baton man.

  • @user-ur7dk3co8v
    @user-ur7dk3co8v 4 роки тому

    緊迫感は.最高だ.ビデオで聞けてありがとうございました.日時とばしょがわかればもっと.よかった.コンセルトヘボウでは.なさそうだが