Immense Van Beinum, chef d'orchestre quasiment pas connu du grand public sauf des mélomanes avertis, sublime version de la 3ème de Beethoven, tension , justesse des tempos , l'orchestre d'Amsterdam en état de grâce comme très souvent, merveilleuse version
Van Beinum was a musicians conductor who's results were always intelligent and most musical. He was dogged by poor health in his last 10 years and died at the early age of 59. he was helped by the Concertgebouw Orchestra, it was and still is one of the best. Thanks for posting .
Oh, fantastic! As a teenager, I attended many live concerts of van Beinum's performances when he conducted the LA Philharmonic in the late 1950s. This Eroica is so beautifully shaped and cleanly articulated. His conducting gestures range from tiny, almost motionless to broad and fully expressive. His native orchestra is magnificent, perfectly attuned to his every nuance. What a treat to hear such a fine performance of his after all these years! Thank you for this.
Eduard van Beinum, second conductor of the Concertgebouworkest since 1931, took over from Mengelberg in 1945. During the post-war years he developed into a conductor much loved by both the public and the orchestra. The changes that took place in society at that time also made their mark on the profession of conductor. From the traditional position of 'maestro’, the position of principal conductor evolved into one of ‘musician among musicians’. And this certainly suited van Beinum’s character. Under his leadership, the orchestra developed an affinity with the French repertoire and Bruckner gained a permanent position on the stage in Amsterdam. Van Beinum died unexpectedly during a rehearsal in April 1959. He was succeeded by the young Bernard Haitink.
Thx. for this rare video of van Beinum. I just missed his time; from 1967 been living in Amsterdam and he would have been 67or 68 then. It is so sound reticent musical what he did. And the orchestra sings; even in the 'allegro con brio'.(It doesn't in the 'Eroica' of e.g. Gardiner.)
You talk about Gardiner but for me he is always ruining most music. He is English and imho everything he is conducting is stiff and he thinks he always knows better. Once a friend of mine who plays in the Concertgebouw Orchestra told me Gardiner is a bad director and does not always know what he is doing. The orchestra can play well without him and saved him many times during concerts. Gardiner's Mozarts (operas) are always without the wit and naughtiness Mozart had, so flat. This is real conducting and playing. I am proud of this orchestra. Love them and always will do. As said by others before, I prefer the ' old' style of playing. Much better than all these recordings nowadays.
A great performance and a precious document of an excellent but somewhat underrated conductor. He's the polar opposite of Mengleberg, but I love both of their interpretations of Beethoven symphonies.
Nice to see/hear Van Beinum on YT more often. Although he died prematurely, he was influential and exemplary for our classical music scene. For Bernard Haitink and Ed Spanjaard he was the most important Dutch musician. Also, Otto Klemperer held him in high esteem btw.
You're right! And I can testify it because Ed Spanjaard is currently my conducting teacher. He talks to the class much about Eduard van Beinum. More than a conductor, van Beinum was a true artist.
Well if klemperer held him in high regard that is indeed something klemperer was a titan and conducted bruckner and mahler as did van beinum and horenstein
This was the first time I saw Eduard van Beinum conduct and I really enjoyed this performance of Beethoven's great symphony. I found it interesting that he did not use a baton, but it didn't seem to be a problem for the musicians of this very fine orchestra.
Una gran interpretación de la "Heroica", por este gran director... Lástima que no indique el año de la grabación...!!! Pero muchas gracias por bajarla a Internet.
A big performance in every way, including the size of the orchestra - eight horns! They don't play Beethoven like that any more, even in Amsterdam. More's the pity.
Interesting that Haitink's conducting gestures, and even body language, are so similar to van Beinum's. He must have assimilated these through observation.
serait intéressant parmi d'autres versions de faire une ecoute a l'aveugle! je suis persuade que cette version serait dans les premières si ce n'est dans le trio de tête!
Magnificently powerful interpretation. I like Eduard van Beinum more than any other Dutch conductor in Concertgebow history. Also acoustic here is perfect. Sounds here as good as stereo. Similar to the Boston Symphony Hall when Sergei Koussevitzky recorded the same Beethoven masterpiece in 1944. I do not know when it was recorded. Probably in the late 1950-ties. Someone says that it took place in 1957. Possibly. Eduard van Beinum was a self taught talent. Today, not many knows this fact...
Haakon Stotijn plays the first oboe here. The first flautist uses a silver instrument, while the Concertgebouw Orchestra has been famous for their wooden flutes at the time of Hubert Balwa...(forgot, how to spell!).Does anyone know who is this first flautist?
Immense Van Beinum, chef d'orchestre quasiment pas connu du grand public sauf des mélomanes avertis, sublime version de la 3ème de Beethoven, tension , justesse des tempos , l'orchestre d'Amsterdam en état de grâce comme très souvent, merveilleuse version
Madonna, che tecnica direttoriale. Incredibile. Prima volta lo vedo il grande Van!
He leaves no room for criticizing his conducting. Powerful and Straight... as well as... Elegant and Clear...
Van Beinum was a musicians conductor who's results were always intelligent and most musical. He was dogged by poor health in his last 10 years and died at the early age of 59. he was helped by the Concertgebouw Orchestra, it was and still is one of the best.
Thanks for posting .
Fantastic Thank you for this. God bless you. Bill. UK
Oh, fantastic! As a teenager, I attended many live concerts of van Beinum's performances when he conducted the LA Philharmonic in the late 1950s. This Eroica is so beautifully shaped and cleanly articulated. His conducting gestures range from tiny, almost motionless to broad and fully expressive. His native orchestra is magnificent, perfectly attuned to his every nuance. What a treat to hear such a fine performance of his after all these years! Thank you for this.
Wonderful-a wonderful conductor, a magnificent orchestra, a grand performance.
That's the great Tibor de Machula fiddling with his violoncello in the beginning.
ベイヌムの演奏は常に剛毅、猪突猛進、ハードボイルド。
だから好き。
The best performance of LVB sym.3 on earth!
Eduard van Beinum, second conductor of the Concertgebouworkest since 1931, took over from Mengelberg in 1945. During the post-war years he developed into a conductor much loved by both the public and the orchestra. The changes that took place in society at that time also made their mark on the profession of conductor. From the traditional position of 'maestro’, the position of principal conductor evolved into one of ‘musician among musicians’. And this certainly suited van Beinum’s character. Under his leadership, the orchestra developed an affinity with the French repertoire and Bruckner gained a permanent position on the stage in Amsterdam. Van Beinum died unexpectedly during a rehearsal in April 1959. He was succeeded by the young Bernard Haitink.
If he was the 3rd director of the concertgebouw, why don't I remember which director was before Mengelberg
@@diegoruvalcabapena5240 First was Willem Kes, from 1888 until 1895, when Mengelberg became chief conductor.
Haitink and E. Jochum became co-chief conductors for a couple of years before Haitink assumed the position by himself.
This live concert was telecast on May 5, 1957 and van Beinum died a couple of years later, on April 13, 1959. First rate.
Thank you so much for allowing us to hear and see the fantastic director Van Beinum!!what a technical skill and what a performance!!!
Thx. for this rare video of van Beinum. I just missed his time; from 1967 been living in Amsterdam and he would have been 67or 68 then. It is so sound reticent musical what he did. And the orchestra sings; even in the 'allegro con brio'.(It doesn't in the 'Eroica' of e.g. Gardiner.)
You talk about Gardiner but for me he is always ruining most music. He is English and imho everything he is conducting is stiff and he thinks he always knows better. Once a friend of mine who plays in the Concertgebouw Orchestra told me Gardiner is a bad director and does not always know what he is doing. The orchestra can play well without him and saved him many times during concerts. Gardiner's Mozarts (operas) are always without the wit and naughtiness Mozart had, so flat. This is real conducting and playing. I am proud of this orchestra. Love them and always will do. As said by others before, I prefer the ' old' style of playing. Much better than all these recordings nowadays.
Thanks for this wonderful video...It s exciting to watch a great conductor and his orchestra...phenomenal!
So, elegant! I have heard of Van Beinum for years and finally get to see and hear. Thank you for posting, truly.
The orchestra plays with incredible joy. Damn, this is beautiful.
Fantastic! Thank you, it brings back great memories. I heard him in Bruckner 8, in the mid fifties and my first ever Bruckner!
A great performance and a precious document of an excellent but somewhat underrated conductor. He's the polar opposite of Mengleberg, but I love both of their interpretations of Beethoven symphonies.
Wonderful!
Thank you! Now I want to see even more visuals of Van Beinum!
Magnificent!
Nice to see/hear Van Beinum on YT more often. Although he died prematurely, he was influential and exemplary for our classical music scene. For Bernard Haitink and Ed Spanjaard he was the most important Dutch musician. Also, Otto Klemperer held him in high esteem btw.
You're right! And I can testify it because Ed Spanjaard is currently my conducting teacher. He talks to the class much about Eduard van Beinum. More than a conductor, van Beinum was a true artist.
Do not forget Willem van Otterloo, together with Mengelberg and van Beinum the three greatest dutch conductors, also concerning Haitink.
Well if klemperer held him in high regard that is indeed something klemperer was a titan and conducted bruckner and mahler as did van beinum and horenstein
Maestro van beinum one of the best no doubt a powerful erotica and his brahms 1 on a mono london lp is one of the very best
Saludos Arequipa-Perú 😀😀😀
Bravo!!!!
Beautiful and historical !
Thanks a lot
This was the first time I saw Eduard van Beinum conduct and I really enjoyed this performance of Beethoven's great symphony. I found it interesting that he did not use a baton, but it didn't seem to be a problem for the musicians of this very fine orchestra.
Una gran interpretación de la "Heroica", por este gran director... Lástima que no indique el año de la grabación...!!! Pero muchas gracias por bajarla a Internet.
Thank you !
The RCO website indicates this performance was recorded on May 5, 1957.
A big performance in every way, including the size of the orchestra - eight horns! They don't play Beethoven like that any more, even in Amsterdam. More's the pity.
Today? Nobody plays as good as all those artists from the past. I only listen to them and only their recordings are in my private collection.
Great conductor, not too hasty. The first movement could be called the apotheosis of the minuet.
De las viejas técnicas de dirección orquestal la técnica del maestro Van Beinum es la mejor
Grand!
GREAT!!! What a TREASURES!!!
What a rare film! I had his LP in my middle school days. I read many articles about him in music journals. An old story. Eduard van Beinum,
"Éroica"
I love the horns in the trio of the Scherzo
Quando si dice nascere direttori... In quelle mani c'è tutto quello che serve.
Interesting that Haitink's conducting gestures, and even body language, are so similar to van Beinum's. He must have assimilated these through observation.
Massive but not Loud!..I enjoyed it...very good work!
😍💖
ブラームスの第一交響曲演奏と同様の快適なテンポとパワフルさを兼ね備えた非常な秀演。それにしても、メンゲルベルクに鍛え抜かれたアムステルダム･コンセルトヘボウの優秀さが際立つ。
Beautiful oboesound
Haakon stotijn
Ένας μεγάλος μαέστρος με πλούσιο έργο,. ! ! ! !
Eduard van Beinum, een musicus met de andere musici. Een baton zou in dit geval alleen afbreuk doen.
serait intéressant parmi d'autres versions de faire une ecoute a l'aveugle!
je suis persuade que cette version serait dans les premières si ce n'est dans le trio de tête!
Thanks, Nanno!
My friend (flautist) told me, Barwahser often played a silver flute, while his name is well-known for his wooden instrument.
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Bravi...
Magnificently powerful interpretation. I like Eduard van Beinum more than any other Dutch conductor in Concertgebow history. Also acoustic here is perfect. Sounds here as good as stereo. Similar to the Boston Symphony Hall when Sergei Koussevitzky recorded the same Beethoven masterpiece in 1944. I do not know when it was recorded. Probably in the late 1950-ties. Someone says that it took place in 1957. Possibly. Eduard van Beinum was a self taught talent. Today, not many knows this fact...
I know when. It was the 5th of may 1957. It was liberationday in Holland.
La técnica de Van Beinum me recuerda a la de Herman sherchen
Wonderful, a treasure. And no Baton. I hate baton except from Monteux.
Haakon Stotijn plays the first oboe here.
The first flautist uses a silver instrument, while the Concertgebouw Orchestra has been famous for their wooden flutes at the time of Hubert Balwa...(forgot, how to spell!).Does anyone know who is this first flautist?
Bahrwasser was his name.
Nanno Jonkers I 'll do resarch for the name of the 1th flautist. Patience.
Also: notice the bassoons sitting behind the clarinets! Not next to them. Looks like they are considered the bass section of the brass.
But this IS Hubert Barwahser !!!
Another no-baton man.
緊迫感は.最高だ.ビデオで聞けてありがとうございました.日時とばしょがわかればもっと.よかった.ｺﾝｾﾙﾄﾍﾎﾞｳでは.なさそうだが