I remember one science fiction story that we had been contacted by an alien race, and had set up a giant meeting with them visiting us. Many communications were made to prepare for the arrival of their space ship to arrive, and the map of earth with the co-ordinate system duly sent and understood. On the day of arrival, there was no sign of the visitors, although we had confirmed the location with them. One message from them was concerning the amount of water surrounding the space ship. Took a while to realise that the aliens were microscopic, and had landed in one of the puddles on the runway set up for the arrival.
It'd be funny if there's some other life forms out there based on totally different compounds and chemicals (perhaps with chemistry we do not know) who dismiss earth being habitable because it has an abundance of that toxic compound water.
Good post. This idea has been explored as a plot in the works of some of the hard science SciFi authors. I think Isaac Asimov also wrote an essay or 2 about it but I could be misremembering the author. Asimov was a biochemist back in the day. The reason silicon is a go to chemical for the basis of life is because it sits below carbon on the periodic table and so it has the same potent recombinant power as carbon. Carbon and silicon have the potential to combine with 4 other atoms which makes it the backbone for a lot of the long chain molecules that life uses. Theoretically silicon can fit into analogous molecules in place of carbon but the experts have opined on the practicality and determined it's not likely to happen. But like you said, there may be life based on chemistry we don't yet understand such as the chemistry of super high or low pressure and temperature. Take Saturn's moon Titan, for example. It's so cold its mountains are made of ice and it has oceans of methane. Carbon everywhere! Perhaps there's a type of slow life that loves the cold. It's still unicellular as it awaits the red giant phase of the sun to pour in the energy needed to push evolution faster. The same thing is possible in the atmosphere of Jupiter. Many scifi authors have posited gigantic blimp like creatures cruising among the clouds of Jupiter but what might exist in the crushing pressure of the depths of its atmosphere? Or could a form of life exist in a sun? On the surface of a neutron star? Anywhere you can name you can imagine there might be a form of life for whom that's its habitat. It's fun to think about, isn't it?
The problem with that thought is it makes the paradox more of a paradox. If intelligent life is possible from NUMEROUS paths then it's even more confusing why no signs. Because looking for oxygen is only one small piece. Where are all the structures? Where are all the abnormal dimming stars? Where are all the remnants of vast galactic wars from all these millions of civilizations? If you make intelligent life more common/possible then it follows the signs should be even more abundant. And yet it is frighteningly quiet. Everything is where it should be. No structures. No glaring abnormalities so far. Very very odd.
@@coreyh5989 Regarding numerous paths Peter Ward addresses that in his book Life As We Do Not Know It. Regarding the Fermi Paradox in general and the utter lack of evidence of other species, if you actually do the math, it is actually pretty much impossible that we are here. First they tell us there are 200 billion stars with planets but about two-thirds of those are in the Galactic Centre which would not support Live as WE know it. Moreover only about 2.5% of all stars are the mid-sized long-lived yellow or orange stars like our beloved Sol. That means there are actually only 1.65 Billion viable stars for Life as WE know it. Once you factor in the 20 or so factors required to sustain Life as WE know it and do the probability calculation it shows it is impossible for us to be present in the Galaxy. Most of the "there are so many stars and planets there MUST be blah, blah, blah" is just uninformed cheerleading. Peter Ward addresses this impossibility of our existence in his books Rare Earth and The Medea Hypothesis. There is also a book written by the chairman of the SETI committee assigned to figure out what to do if we do contact something (can't remember title; search SETI site) in which he states exactly that - since we have NO EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING WHATSOEVER coming down on one side of the fence or another is just bias and personal preference. So have a nice winter change of pace and read three excellent books by a great scientist. Cheers!
You have to realize, we live on the skin of our planet...dig down about six miles, and it's too hot for us. Go up about seven miles, and there's not enough air. The "goldilocks zone" of intelligent life is a lot smaller than we think, imo.
What you’re saying tells me it’s unlikely another intelligent species could survive on our planet and we probably couldn’t survive on theirs. We know extremophiles exist on Earth and survive in conditions that would kill us immediately. What if intelligent life evolved from extremophiles?
@@kathleen9456exactly... we have to throw all of that away. We also have to abandon any concept of their biology looking anything like ours. Hell they may be like atoms or thoughts for all we know.
@@kathleen9456 You're also assuming biological life can form in completely different conditions. As far as we know complex life is only possible in oxygen and water rich worlds. Technology and spaceships for instance, would not have been possible for us in a low oxygen world as fire cannot burn without oxygen. If we lived in a low oxygen world we wouldn't have discovered and mastered fire and wouldn't have been able to go to space in the first place. Similarly, if we were ocean animals we also wouldn't be able to discover and master fire. To build things we also need oppposable thumbs. Sure, intelligent life could exist in completely different settings but that does not mean they would be able to build things and leave their own planet.
What really scares me about how ridiculously big the universe is is that it would take the Voyager probes 575 million years to be far enough away to take a picture of our galaxy
Crazy thing about size of the visible Universe is that although it is 14.5 billions of years old it's stretching over 92 billions of light years. So, even though you cannot possibly fathom its size as it is, it goes even a step further exiting the common, intuitive logic you might use to encompass it by any measure.
I like that things are still inexplicable! Without mystery there would be no spirit of enquiry or art! I suspect it's a bit like a worm trying to understand my lawn let alone what's beyond. Not against the worm trying just happy that the mystery will prevail.
The Victorians built vast cities, traveled the globe with ease, filled libraries with their books, filled museums with fine art ... and never sent a single radio wave out into space.
Let's face it space is huge. Intelligent life is probably rare, and most importantly the chances of the time-line between civilizations matching up in the billions of years is almost impossible. There were probably civilizations before our sun and planets even formed, I wouldn't hold your breath on meeting aliens. It would be the greatest discovery of mankind though
Yeah, but if there was advanced civilization prior to ours, we should be able to see the traces - Dyson swarms, Orbit habitats, traces of interstellar traveling etc 1. We're already there - we have 3D printers, give us couple of more decades and we'll have functional Von Neumann self replicating probes, capable of landing on any planet or asteroid, mine the material, make a copy itself and move on. If there was an advanced civilization prior to ours capable of doing this (and it really ain't that hard) and if those probes moved at only 10% light speed, the ENTIRE Milky way galaxy should've/could've been colonised, but i mean entire - moons, asteroids, planets and all, and the time required measures in couple of million years at best 2. Dyson swarms - here it gets worse, because those are essentially just solar panels, and require only time (and money) to be placed around a Star. That's practically unlimited energy for any civilization, and it's plausible to assume that every single advanced civilization would strive for it Yet, we see no traces of it, no traces of ancient habitats in orbit etc So, Where is everybody?
@@bluedotdweller just knowing life is out there wouldn't change much among the masses. People are to selfish to give a crap. They would bring skip a beat.
I think the likely explanation is that intelligent life is exceptionally rare. Like 1-2 species per galaxy. And that’s not unsettling to me at all. It means there’s probably no one out there who can threaten us.
If you actually do the math, it is actually pretty much impossible that we are here. First they tell us there are 200 billion stars with planets but about two-thirds of those are in the Galactic Centre which would not support Live as WE know it. That is, the Galaxy itself has a Habitable Zone. That is why we are on the edge of the Galaxy. Moreover only about 2.5% of all stars are the mid-sized long-lived yellow or orange stars like our beloved Sol. That means there are actually only 1.65 Billion viable stars for Life as WE know it. Once you factor in the 20 or so factors required to sustain Life as WE know it and do the probability calculation it shows it is impossible for us to be present in the Galaxy. Most of the "there are so many stars and planets there MUST be blah, blah, blah" is just uninformed cheerleading. Peter Ward addresses this impossibility of our existence in his books Rare Earth and The Medea Hypothesis. There is also a book written by the chairman of the SETI committee assigned to figure out what to do if we do contact something (can't remember title; search SETI site) in which he states exactly that - since we have NO EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING WHATSOEVER coming down on one side of the fence or another is just bias and personal preference. So have a nice winter change of pace and read three excellent books by a great scientist. Of course someone will mention "life by a different path" and that topic is addressed in a book called Life As We Do Not Know It also by Peter Ward. Cheers!
@@bonysminiatures3123 There are so many factors that have to go right for life to happen, then you have to factor in that intelligence is by no means inevitable. In 4 billion years we’re the only species we know of who has gotten to this level. Intelligence itself may very well be an evolutionary dead end. The simplest life tends to be what endures, not the complex kind.
@@TheNightWatcher1385 nobody has a clue , yet we should take life here as an example of sorts , even though life probably takes different routes to intelligence given time circumstance and other very random factors
Life is a much more delicate process to start than we appreciate. we should only be looking at planets with large moons like ours. the persistent but regular wetting then drying of mud flats was significant in debrief of large lipid structures
Earth orbits a single (unary) G type star which makes us uncommon because most stars are M type and most solar systems are binary. Earth is also rare because it has a large moon orbiting it. Also there is evidence that some or all of the planets in our solar system migrated to different positions in the distant past which probably makes our solar system even more rare.
This is the best video I’ve seen about the Fermi Paradox. So many of them are biased and exaggerated. This one reflects how I think about it. The conclusion I’ve held is that we simply don’t know. At this point, when our knowledge of the universe is so minuscule, that it could be said that we know nothing, we cannot come to any conclusions about whether or not there is other life in the universe. Especially since our earth is the only example we have. It is amazing that we can imagine so many scenarios that might be realistic. But until some evidence is acquired, they are just fantasies. Having said that, my personal wish is that some morning I will wake up and find that we have made contact with, hopefully, a friendly alien species! That would be the biggest event in human history!
Sadly we already have a large part of the answer regarding Fermi's paradox. It's clear that interstellar travel is not really possible. The energy requirements are simply too enormous. A spaceship the size of Saturn is not practical. It's also clear that biological organisms are too short-lived to make the journey. A human descended from an original crew member by 350 generations would probably not be very appreciative of the journey. The civilization that sent the craft would have aged by another 28,000 years and it's unlikely anybody would remember sending that craft. It's also clear there is no way to power the spacecraft for such an enormous amount of time. What power source can last even a hundred years?
The Universe was wise, putting us so far apart, yet making lightspeed so incredibly slow. Since even the different species and individuals on only one planet alone seem to have insurmountable difficulties with the concept "getting along".
Part of me wishes it wasn't so, but you make a good point. Maybe it's for the best that we or anyone has to reach a level of peace and cooperation never seen before in order to be able to explore the universe and reach each other. Who knows, someday! I won't be around to see it happen, though.
Please keep making videos.i look forward to seeing how your channel will develop - concentrate on these big questions and you could break down 'great filters' and "Schelling points" and even future technologies that could change the way we view space and time and the stars themselves. Thanks
I wish I could post more! I make these videos all by myself in my spare time. I do try to have one every month, but it all depends on the subject matter and how long the video is. All the nice comments I'm getting makes it all worth it :)
They're all there... just out of reach and out of sight, not just in distance but also in time. It is a very real possibility that very few, in no other civilisations will have have contact with each other. It's all a matter of scale.
we are using tech to detect civilizations on our tech level , so maybe we are limited to getting reply's , just the beginning for our search . Anyhow why is james webb not focusing in on alpha centauri for habitable planets , that's the first obvious place to look
What we don't know, but is true, is they're already on thier way. There's a certain amount of time it will take for them to get here and they've already decided what will happen to us when they do. Our chances of influencing their decision in any way is almost 0. Sleep well.
We have a lot to figure out. There is no doubt in my mind there are others out there. I think the most important thing we can do is make the world a better place so one day we can answer this big question.
10:30 Actually our average age before death is dramatically lower than our baby boomer parents. We're dying off in our 50s and 60s. But our grandparents live(d) to their 80s to 100s. And our Healthcare systems are in shambles. Even here in Canada we're having problems with corruption in the political ranks.
To me this is not a paradox at all. It's just that the universe is so unimaginably large, any possible civilization is simply out of reach with our current forms of communication. The video even said that our oldest radio waves have travelled about 200 light years, maybe any other possible civilization is in the same situation. The Milky Way is about 100,000 light years across. And that's only one galaxy. Even assuming there are other civilizations, it's likely we would have no way of communicating with them.
Ok. Now imagine if we were to shout our existance to every star system and every nearby galaxy. Just that. Not the whole of the universe. Imagine how much energy it would take to send out a message to every of those recipients. Now imagine what useful stuff one could do with all that energy. What we need to do is wait. Or rather make progress. Right now we can detect exo-planets; but often exo-planets way to close to their stars. Once we find earth-like planets (mass, atmosphere) at right places around the stars, then we can start saying sensible things about any Fermi paradox. Before that it's just wishful guesswork. And since live takes billions of years to develop, and one can detect markers in a planet's atmosphere about that, we can at least exclude that idea that we must hide. Our planet can be found long before we ourselves evolved.
Given the last guestimate putting the nearest like technological species 16000 light years away. It would take about 15950 years for them to detect us and the same for us if they mirror what we do. Will we even be around in the year 17972? Or even 16000 years after that to receive a message? Space is too big, that is why we cannot detect anyone else.
"We imagine there being a giant galactic society that we could join and elevate our own in the process. After all, isn't that what we would do if we became a highly advanced race capable of sailing the cosmic seas?" - The correct answer to that question is that no, that is actually not what we would do, since we shouldn't at all dare to do that (and the same holds for every civilization in the universe, at all times). If you want to know why (including the theory of everything that is important), then search online for the term "Ethics on Cosmic Scale" for recent results.
You must also consider how this theory is compounded by Multi-dimension realities too. Fun to ponder this stuff but moot....given our mental limitations.....coffee time...cheerio..
As I've gotten older, I've come to the conclusion that we're likely one if not the first of the intelligent technological species in our particular galaxy. But the real barrier here, and always, is time. We have no way of detecting ruins on a planet. We've only just gotten to the edge of the tech necessary to detect the chemical biosignals that an exoplanet might exhibit. If any species had learned how to jump the gaps between the stars with "manned" ships, I wouldn't be typing this message, would I?
Should we really be signalling out to potential threats? Personally, I'm optimistic, so it's a 'yes' from me, but if you enjoy science-fiction where contacting aliens is an existential blunder, I think you'd like Cixin Liu's Three-Body trilogy. It's really interesting.
What if we are the only ones in the universe, or at least in this region of space. The universe is so enormous and infinitely vast if not endless. We cannot from where we are see the boundaries of space.. neither can we accurately know it's age or assume there was a ridiculous big bang. Our theories cannot explain away everything we don't know or understand.
In my humble opinion, with the increase in the possibility of departing from the place of origin or away from home spheres, the tendency to not respect social rules increases, along with the growth of civilizational liberalism of individuals, its dysfunctionality also grows, which leads to drives closer to instinctive perception, away from contemplation or self-awareness, in thus every civilization falls into a destructive sociological trap leading to self-elimination
Aggression is instinct learned over time for survival. An advanced form of life would have had to survive past the point of no return. It's where we are now. Any being that could get here has gotten beyond self destruction. When weapons can't be used without total destruction you learn to survive by getting along. There is no other choice. This is why love always wins. Hatred is based in fear, it even hates itself. How could hatred be all powerful? Hatred and evil are abhorrent and weak whereas love is the strongest bond there is. Good and bad, love and hate, good and evil? No. Just respect for creation.
Everybody is here. If i decided to join this universe, i would go to earth aswell. All are idiots here of course but they are at least amusing to look at and i don't have to butcher food by myself. But seriously, all of this is either a prison or a test, so naturally you have to interact with others to learn whatever. So everybody has to be here.
Not unsettling to me. It means the universe is our playground for any brave and clever souls who can reach the stars. Some humans may escape to other worlds and away from the crazy politics of humans who rule this planet that call nature evil and call evil a virtue.
Yes! When I hear stories about aliens being held at Area 51, for example, my first thought is “how are they being treated?” And “why don’t they let them out?” If there actually are aliens being held somewhere, I hope the people holding them realize that they are actual beings, and shouldn’t be treated like slaves, prisoners or zoo animals! But these are humans we’re talking about. And you know how they are.
Great channel! Keep it up! My thoughts on the Fermi paradox recently took a seismic shift when i learned about Von Neumann probes: it's a concept where a civilization sends a probe to a new star. There a bunch of robots mine available asteroids/rocky planets, gathers energy from the star, and creates copies of itself. Then it sends out several replicated probes to a few neighboring stars. We are only 100 years or so away from doing this. If possible, this exponential growth, even if it takes thousands of years to travel and build copies, would populate the entire galaxy in a few million years. *Millions* sounds big but it is nothing compared to the *billions* of years of history and future of the universe. In addition it would be safe from any type of destruction after just a few iterations since there will be thousands (or millions) of copies. So some other civilization should have done this already, which should have left lots of evidence. But the alternative, saying we are the first or alone, violates the Copernican principle
In one of Isaac Asimov book, astronauts are put to sleep in ship for 500 years (I think) to get to the designated planet but the thing is during that time, mankind kept advancing technologically and by the time the ship reached the planet, it was fully populated. I would say the same thing here applies unless of course there is no way to go faster than C. Give us a thousand years just to see where we are. It makes me wonder....
I think we are one of the first in our galaxy and other galaxies are soo far away we are seeing them as they where millions or billions of years ago so we can't see anything there yet.
Enjoyed the video, thanks. Really there are just no data, so it's impossible to draw any conclusions about the prevalence of intelligent life in the universe. We may know that there are no nearby civilizations directing powerful radio or laser beacons directly at us, but it is not yet possible for us to detect radiation leakage of the order we emit, for example. And, as you note, advanced civilizations may be using communications tech that is completely unknown to us, and thus undetectable. I think we should put more effort into looking for artifacts, such as alien probes, in our solar system. There are some obvious places they might be hiding, such as in Earth's Lagrange points or among Jupiter's Trojan asteroids, or even on the moon.
Pretty much SOS on the Fermi paradox. The sad thing is that too many "scientific types" are afraid to explore the possible reasons for no contact. Remember this: "Good fences make good neighbors." Robert Frost Light speed makes a very good fence.
The only place we can confirm "intelligent" life also confirms the rarity of life making the tools we use... Less than .0000001% of the creatures that have ever existed on Earth are capable of making a radio or propelled vehicles for travel. We're a very short lived species, thus far, and wouldn't even be able to find ourselves in another star system
I have two possible scenarios that potentially explain the Fermi Paradox, one is benign and encouraging, the other more sinister: 1. Contentment and Technology. We make the huge assumption that as a civilisation becomes more advanced they will place more and more reliance on technology, expansion and growth, to the point where either their technology should be detectable across the expanse of space, or they would reach out and contact us. However, it's quite possible that an advanced civilisation could achieve a level of peace, harmony, spiritual contentment so that they have no great need for excessive technology or expansion. Perhaps they've solved major problems of war, poverty, hunger, disease. So we're looking for signs of technological civilisations out there when perhaps our faith in technology as the 'answer to everything' is only a sign of our own civilisation not being very advanced or intelligent at all. 2. Artificial Intelligence Control. It's possible that as a civilisation becomes advanced it can't resist the desire to create stronger and stronger artificial intelligence to serve its own needs, but maybe there's a point at which the AI inevitably becomes more intelligent and more independent from biological life. Perhaps at this point the AI systems diverge from the agenda of its creators and AI concludes that the uncontrolled expansion and growth of an intelligent biological species is harmful to all other biological life. Or even obstructs the new purpose and agenda of the AI, whatever that may be. Already there are small signs of this here on earth (search for 'No, this angry AI isn't fake, w Elon Musk'). It may be an inevitable stage in biological intelligent life where it is completely taken over and subdued - or even eliminated - by its own AI creations.
If there are peace loving aliens out there, who thinks they would want anything to do with us? I think they (if they are peace loving) would put some kind of exclusion zone around us. 🌲🌝☘️
No matter how abundant life is, we may be the first to reach high levels of technology. We may be The Forerunners. Imagine being the first frog to emerge onto a lilly pad in a cosmic pond. We croak, but no answer returns. Lonely, we venture back into the depths from whence we emerged, to swim and occasionally cry out in our solitude. But if life is itself a force, which I hypothesize might be the case, then we could well be just the first arrivals in the springtime of existence. Soon, other changlings, under the enfluence of that same primal life force, will emerge to sing in the chorus of the Great Night. Is it our place to call forth those others primed for the stars? Are we worthy to be the Elder Brother? Can we change, become more, better, balanced? How can we not attempt our destiny?
I do not think we have the means to detect life or signs of habitation- We might be close to see barely we might see signs of water or chemicals of life
OMG ! I loved this . I have always had the paradox mentioned but this content unpacks it .I am pretty sure it's distance . I am glad . We couldn't handle . It instantly become a religious / political dealo and turn the joy of discovery into street theatre. I think getting to know crows and octopi is good practice . Love the scientist !
The other thing we need to realize: it's space and time, so it's not just distance, but also when they've only been looking for 50+ years and that's nothing on the scale of the universe. We might be the first as you mentioned, but their might have been civilizations for thousands of years but they've already gone. We've lost of many civilizations on our own planet. A lot of knowledge from them is lost (fire Alexandria) which we couldn't really build on anymore, we had kind of to start over.
Basically the whole Universe is watching what happens on Earth now. They can see everyone with perfect clarity all the time. So if you think you can hide anything, you are wrong. Everything you think is known by the higher beings. They know why you do the things you do. You can not hide your intentions even.
Super Earth’s are said to be more common and more habitable than earth size planets. It’s hard to imagine such planets without thinking about Star Wars 😅
Why do people continually consider that The Earth, being the only place with/for LIFE, is somehow dreadful and unsettling to the human psyche? So we are alone, so what? Who cares? We've done all this by ourselves, we will go on all by ourselves. It's like being a grown up. Once you are no longer a child and you've grown up, then you go out and do your own thing and make your own money and exist in your own sphere of influence. Get used to it.
Absolutely! don't get this obsession with thinking/hoping of alien life elsewhere-as you say who cares? As for traveling to other star systems, we can forget that too, the nearest star is around 60,000 years away with present technology and a planet-sized fuel tank.
@@Efferpheasants Even IF we COULD go at the speed of light, what happens when a grain of sand hit the earth at the speed of light? What do you think it will do to a spaceship if we hit some dust in the heavens??? BOOOOOMMMMM that's what. It's just pointless. Meanwhile, how many people starve while we play with our little rockets and trips to Mars and the Moon and back???
@@Efferpheasants LOL, yeah. Exactly! I know that the people who make these rockets and all this space stuff happen and the physicists and astronomers, etc. are all incredibly smart, yet when I think of this simple fact: E=mc2, I have to ask myself, how dumb are they? Why do they keep pushing this shit? Why do they keep applying for more and more money? Ok they want a job I understand that, but realistically, It's just not going to work. And to what end?
I think you're probably right when you talk about the distances involved. Just traveling to the Alpha Cetauri system with present technology would take tens of thousands of years. And the probablies of finding intelligence there, knowing what we do about that system, is slim at best. Imagine some other intelligence trying to explore the immensity of our galaxy, even with highly advanced technology. Never mind intergalactic travel, which I would deem impossible.
There is the Kardashev scale, which is a method of measuring a civilization's level of technological advancement based on the amount of energy it is able to use. Physicists theorize that a level one civilization has mastered the energy of their planet. We aren't there yet. A level two civilization is able to harness the energy of their star, and a level three galactic civilization is theorized to have the ability to harness the energy of black hole. Gravity shapes and influences space and time, so we physicists theorize that a level three civilization would be able to use the energy of gravity to control space time. This is theoretically possible because Einstein's equations allow for wormholes and time travel, which is what I am getting to. Theoretically and I can say this only because the math comes out clean every time that it is put to the test. The math says that if we could control gravity like a level three civilization, we could bend space and time and create portals to other worlds. We physicists know quantum entanglement magic is very real. The Nobel prize in physics 2022 has just been awarded for 50 plus years of research proving that non locality and entanglement have no hidden variables, the magic is real. This means that, yes Einstein, God does play dice. And there is spooky action at a distance. Entanglement and non locality show the world that information can be shared instantly between any two points in the universe instantaneously, faster than the speed of light. This is a great big deal in science. QM also has implications beyond entanglement. QM experiments also show that mind influences matter. That intentional awareness, the sole act of observation, influences matter and outcome.
I am binge-watching your videos, lol. All very thought-provoking and excellently delivered. In this case, I think the vastness of space "multiplied" by rarity of intelligent life "multiplied" by different timescales of when potential intelligent life arises gives chances of any contact close to zero, with vastness of space being the most important factor.
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Great video ! *note...look at the reply to the message Carl Sagan sent from the Aricibo radio telescope....the reply was a giant crop circle in Britain...look at the reply's version of our radio telescope...very interesting
Hi blue - Well done! One observation: I think you are underestimating the likelihood that supposed advanced civilizations may well strangle themselves with materials, conditions, and politics that quite quickly drive them to extinction, and eliminate the opportunity of searching for or being discovered by others.
Time and distance is why we'll never talk to an alien lol. Even if JWST got a definite technosignature from a planet 500 light years away. It'd be looking 500 years in the past. If they could look back at us they have same problem. We'd always be in each other's past no matter what we do
The atoms and fields of our universe might just be the communication of these beings, like as if we are just a fungus growing on the side of a cellphone or a digital virus in their technology
There are two possibilities: there is other intelligent life in the Universe, or we are entirely alone. Either is profoundly not alarming, worrying or horrifying.
@@bluedotdweller With a bit of a twist. ;) I'm saying (paraphrasing his words) that Clarke got it beautifully, gloriously, the exact opposite of the truth. The truth now certainly appears there's nothing the least terrifying about the equation at all. It's fascinating, yes, but utterly academic.
@@anthonyrose915 It's a reversed twist on a well known Clarke quote. It's a play on his statement, making the opposite conclusion. To my mind the paradox isn't Fermi's, it's his 'paradox'. As we learn more and more it becomes increasing likely that it doesn't matter if there are or aren't other intelligent species, either way we are alone and probably always will be. The implications of that conclusion seem to be a bit more fundamental than any speculation on why we haven't detected any...yet. I increasingly suspect that not only are we the only intelligence we'll ever encounter in this Universe, but we may also even be the first. Thus, in a basic way, the Copernican Revolution comes 'full circle'.
@@nomdeguerre7265 Totally agree. It's amazing how the 'terrifying' meme spreads like the plague. You may have noticed how it's infected numerous cosmology titles. In truth, orders of magnitude less terrifying than a dog peeing on my hydrangeas. To be fair, this title was watered down to 'Deeply Unsettling'. Codswallop.
How hard would it be for an alien race to create a large aquarium where the most intelligent species perceived their "world" just as it presents to us now? But yet not be real real.
"All they did was eat, replicate and die." Sounds familiar. Lol! BTW: If Thea hadn't hit the Earth she wouldn't have a tilted axis (= seasons etc.), an iron core ( magnetic field) and such a big moon (tides, stabization). Then we had Jupiter which guarded us, a quiet place in our galaxy, the right distance to the sun, water, the right kind of sun, no quasars etc. near us, the right ingrrdients for life, Earth's volcanoes & tectonic plates (mountains), the right rotation speed of our Earth, no gamma ray burst nearby and more facts that made life possible in the first place. WOW!
Hi there fellow Blue Dot Dweller, 'The Universe Is Yet Young' The Universe is filled with light and yet we hear no voices We are alone, we are but one, and we alone have choices Maybe it is early yet, we wait for super novae after all it's only time, a lifetime's naught to go by. Basically, until a first-generation star explodes, the universe is not capable of bearing life. After the various more complex elements formed by atomic fusion are freed from the interior of a star they form a nebula which then, because the parent star was huge, forms a number of sun-like stars. These will most likely have planets, but the planets may not be conducive to life forming. Of our planets it looks like Earth is the only one that promotes the development of life. It has taken about 2 billion years for the planet Earth to cool down after formation, and another 2.5 billion years for life to develop into 'us'. Let's call that 5 billion, then add the time it takes for the nebula to condense into stars and planets, say another 5 billion years, give or take a couple of billion, then the first generation star has to form, burn, and die, and although these huge stars burned bright and didn't live long, they still take between, let's say 2 and 5 billion years to go supernova, and how long to form from the hydrogen of the big bang? Let's say 3 to 5 billion years.. By this reckoning, there isn't time for life to have formed yet.. But it has, here we are. I have for many years looked at the stars in this young universe and imagined that we are very much alone. I wrote the poem while studying Physics And Philosophy Joint at Kings college between my 31st and 36th year. I had read a book by Laurence Krause about the life journey of the universe when I was 18. If I remember correctly, we are a small percentage of the way through the life of the universe with glowing stars. After stars go out the universe will be dark, with only black holes making up galaxies. The life, according to Mr Krause, of the dark universe of black holes as they wind down, will be about 150 times the life of the universe that preceded it with burning stars. If life exists by then, says Laurence, it may eek-out an existence circling a black hole. I'm now wondering when any life in the universe will become mortally dependent upon technology to survive..
The Fermi Paradox is such an entitled idea. Tje universe is monolithic. I, sure there are many life forms, and not carbon based. To think they should be in contact already is beyond laughable. Let's just figure out how we expand to our solar system. However, we ;ook to space while we test Eeath like sht. Not very intelligent, don't you think? How about fixing the crap we are doing to Earth, them empwoe ourselves to make going to s[ace worthwhile?
Fermi Paradox -- 1. Life must be plentiful in the Universe. 2. Why haven't they found Earth? Fuuree Explanation -- A. Aliens did visit Earth. B. They watched UA-cam cat videos for a day. C. There was no evidence of intelligent life. D. They left.
Let's not delude ourselves. If we could get to other, less advanced, civilizations out there, we wouldn't elevate them. We'd exploit them for financial gain, like we do to everything.
Just found your channel; which was inevitable 13:00 I remember the launch of Pioneer and Voyager. Most of the space age is within in our lifetime; i.e. there is definitely billions of other civilizations out there.🧶Cosmology is in accord with Alan Watts. 23:00 This survey doesn't account for everyone who believes there is intelligent life in the universe, not necessarily in the Milky Way...but of course it's prevalent everywhere. Anyone who thinks otherwise is as shortsighted as if they find a plant in the desert and think, "hmmm, most likely this plant is an anomaly and there are no other plants anywhere." In Planet of the Apes the scientist correctly pointed out, "where there's one there's another..and another". But just think: we were only able to progress so far in about one century from a species that couldn't even get off the ground to one that can send out interplanetary probes. And it's only been a few individuals: Copernicus, Einstein, etc. that moved us forward; most people didn't even know the Earth was a planet until a few hundred years ago (they ignored Aristarchus of Samos' idea for 18 centuries)
In my mind, there is no question that they're out there. My Career is well established. My texts books are required reading in all the major capitals on planet earth. If you want to become a physicist to learn about the unified field theory-you read my books. Therefore, I'm in a position to say: Yes- Most likely they're out their, perhaps even visited, perhaps on our moon." -- Professor Michio Kaku There is abundant evidence we are being contacted, that civilizations have been visiting us for a very long time, that their appearance is bizarre in any form of traditional, materialistic, western point of view, that these visitors use the technology of consciousness, they use co-rotating magnetic discs for their propulsion systems, that seems to be a common denominator of the UFO phenomenon, and how they can manipulate time and space locally, so they can have their own anti-gravity propulsion and their own field of energy that's isolated through electro-gravitational fields." - Brian O'Leary Former NASA astronaut and Princeton professor of physics. Dr. Hermann Oberth, who pioneered rocket design for the German Reich during World War II and later advanced rocket technology for the American manned space launches, cryptically stated: “We cannot take the credit for our record advancement in certain scientific fields alone; we have been helped.” When asked by whom, he replied: “The people of other worlds.” "I've been convinced for a long time that the flying saucers are real and interplanetary. Another words we are being watched by beings from outer space." --Albert M. Chop, deputy public relations director, National Aeronautics and Space Administration,(NASA) and former United States Air Force spokesman for Project Blue Book. "When the long awaited solution to the UFO problem comes, I believe that it will prove to be not merely the next small step in the march of science, but a mighty and totally unexpected quantum leap." "We had a job to do, whether right or wrong, to keep the public from getting excited" --Dr.J Allen Hynek, Director US Air Force´s project Blue Book as a scientific consultant, astronomer, investigator and analysis. "Given the millions of billions of Earth-like planets, life elsewhere in the Universe without a doubt, does exist. In the vastness of the Universe we are not alone." --Albert Einstein "It is my thesis that flying saucers are real and that they are space ships from another solar system.There is no doubt in my mind that these objects are interplanetary craft of some sort. I and my colleagues are confident that they do not originate in our solar system." --Dr. Herman Oberth (The father of modern rockerty) "I am completely convinced that UFOs have an out-of-world basis." --Dr. Walther Riedel (Once chief designer and research director at the German rocket center in Peenemunde) "The possibility of reduced-time interstellar travel either by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations at present or ourselves in the future, is not fundamentally constrained by physical principles." -- Dr. Harold Puthoff (Director, Institute for advanced studies at Austin, Author of fundamentals of Quantum Electronics) "The evidence is overwhelming that Planet Earth is being visited by intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft. In other words, SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. Most are not. It's clear from the Opinion Polls and my own experience, that indeed most people accept the notion that SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. The greater the education, the MORE likely to accept this proposition" -- Stanton Friedman Defense Contractor Nuclear Physicist "Extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. The Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nuncios (embassies) in various countries, such as Mexico, Chile and Venezuela." -- Monsignor Corrado Balducci As stated 5 different times on Italian TV** (Vatican theologian insider close to the Pope,Monsignor Balducci said that he is on a Vatican commission looking into extraterrestrial encounters, and how to cope with the emerging general realization of extraterrestrial contact.) "I am convinced that these ojects do exist and that they are not manufactured by any nations on earth" --Air Chief Marshal Lord Dowding (Commander-in-chief, Royal Air Force Fighter Command) (3) An outpouring of UFO reports which forces response in high places, particularly when unknowns virtually blitzed the U.S. capitol in Washington, D.C. An Air Force intelligence analysis also concluded that UFOs were interplanetary spaceships. (1952) "The UFO phenomenon being reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious" --General Nathan Twining Chairman, Joint chiefs of staff, 1955-1958 "Unknown objects are operating under intelligent control... It is imperative that we learn where UFOs come from and what their purpose is. I can tell you, behind the scenes, high ranking military officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs" --Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter (Former director of the Central Intelligence Agency) "The possibility of reduced-time interstellar travel either by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations at present or ourselves in the future, is not fundamentally constrained by physical principles." -- Dr. Harold Puthoff (Director, Institute for advanced studies at Austin, Author of fundamentals of Quantum Electronics)
To your point of “alien life could be too alien”, it’s worth bearing in mine that compressed, encrypted communication looks like random noise. What do we see when we tune to various frequencies coming from space? Random noise. It’s a small window of a race’s existence that it uses analog or uncompressed/unencrypted radio signals. We still send analog AM/FM. But digital FM exists now. Tune to those stations with an analog FM radio and we hear white noise. Someday, radio bands will be repurposed entirely and will all contain what looks like random noise.
I don't believe any of us should get excited over the Fermi Paradox. The most important principle to the idea is, it's easily acceptable to envision life on another planet. Given what we know today and a little bit about what we don't know. The question "Where are all the aliens if this is true?" This is a question that is simply apart of the flawed human condition and how our brains work. We falsely expect results to every problem or idea. Results play a part in our everyday lives no matter what we're doing. The simple truth is that the human brain/mind has just begun to understand how BIG our galaxy is in the last 100 hundred years, let alone the entire universe. If you set modern religion aside, what happened on earth had to of happened on another planet. Earth is 4.5 Billion years old and it's thought the entire universe is 13 billion years old. Surely life arose in another time & space. There is another idea the human condition cannot process. Time. Most religions humans have invented all put everything as much much younger. Humans don't like the idea that we're not the center on the universe. The Roman Catholic church actually put people to death for accurately observing that we're not even at the center of our own solar system. Our Star is. Just because our radio telescopes can't detect them, and our probes go unharrassed doesn't mean they aren't there. Humans could still be considered primitive as we're not even a type 1 civilization on the Kardashev scale. If another lifeform has figured out how to travel those vast distances in space that sperate us and keep us seemingly jailed on our own planet. They would be true God's to us. Humans can barely conceive time & distance when it comes to the Universe. The best answer to the question "Where are all the Aliens?" In your fav Sci-Fi novel. Keep dreaming.
I remember one science fiction story that we had been contacted by an alien race, and had set up a giant meeting with them visiting us. Many communications were made to prepare for the arrival of their space ship to arrive, and the map of earth with the co-ordinate system duly sent and understood. On the day of arrival, there was no sign of the visitors, although we had confirmed the location with them. One message from them was concerning the amount of water surrounding the space ship. Took a while to realise that the aliens were microscopic, and had landed in one of the puddles on the runway set up for the arrival.
See Douglas Adams' Vl'hurgs vs G'Gugvuntts. The entire battle fleet was swallowed by a small dog.
THIS is more realistic than not
What if aliens use TikTok style social media for intergalactic communications.
@@Aeimos Their females shaking the equivalent of bottoms to some of music, nice!
@@OLDCHEMIST1 PMSL.
It'd be funny if there's some other life forms out there based on totally different compounds and chemicals (perhaps with chemistry we do not know) who dismiss earth being habitable because it has an abundance of that toxic compound water.
That would be funny especially considering oxygen used to be toxic to life on Earth. Almost wiped life out completely, too.
Already done in a very poor science fiction movie starring Mel Gibson. But there the aliens were so stupid they invaded anyway. Cheers!
Good post. This idea has been explored as a plot in the works of some of the hard science SciFi authors. I think Isaac Asimov also wrote an essay or 2 about it but I could be misremembering the author. Asimov was a biochemist back in the day. The reason silicon is a go to chemical for the basis of life is because it sits below carbon on the periodic table and so it has the same potent recombinant power as carbon. Carbon and silicon have the potential to combine with 4 other atoms which makes it the backbone for a lot of the long chain molecules that life uses. Theoretically silicon can fit into analogous molecules in place of carbon but the experts have opined on the practicality and determined it's not likely to happen. But like you said, there may be life based on chemistry we don't yet understand such as the chemistry of super high or low pressure and temperature. Take Saturn's moon Titan, for example. It's so cold its mountains are made of ice and it has oceans of methane. Carbon everywhere! Perhaps there's a type of slow life that loves the cold. It's still unicellular as it awaits the red giant phase of the sun to pour in the energy needed to push evolution faster. The same thing is possible in the atmosphere of Jupiter. Many scifi authors have posited gigantic blimp like creatures cruising among the clouds of Jupiter but what might exist in the crushing pressure of the depths of its atmosphere? Or could a form of life exist in a sun? On the surface of a neutron star? Anywhere you can name you can imagine there might be a form of life for whom that's its habitat. It's fun to think about, isn't it?
The problem with that thought is it makes the paradox more of a paradox. If intelligent life is possible from NUMEROUS paths then it's even more confusing why no signs. Because looking for oxygen is only one small piece. Where are all the structures? Where are all the abnormal dimming stars? Where are all the remnants of vast galactic wars from all these millions of civilizations? If you make intelligent life more common/possible then it follows the signs should be even more abundant. And yet it is frighteningly quiet. Everything is where it should be. No structures. No glaring abnormalities so far. Very very odd.
@@coreyh5989 Regarding numerous paths Peter Ward addresses that in his book Life As We Do Not Know It. Regarding the Fermi Paradox in general and the utter lack of evidence of other species, if you actually do the math, it is actually pretty much impossible that we are here. First they tell us there are 200 billion stars with planets but about two-thirds of those are in the Galactic Centre which would not support Live as WE know it. Moreover only about 2.5% of all stars are the mid-sized long-lived yellow or orange stars like our beloved Sol. That means there are actually only 1.65 Billion viable stars for Life as WE know it. Once you factor in the 20 or so factors required to sustain Life as WE know it and do the probability calculation it shows it is impossible for us to be present in the Galaxy.
Most of the "there are so many stars and planets there MUST be blah, blah, blah" is just uninformed cheerleading. Peter Ward addresses this impossibility of our existence in his books Rare Earth and The Medea Hypothesis.
There is also a book written by the chairman of the SETI committee assigned to figure out what to do if we do contact something (can't remember title; search SETI site) in which he states exactly that - since we have NO EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING WHATSOEVER coming down on one side of the fence or another is just bias and personal preference. So have a nice winter change of pace and read three excellent books by a great scientist. Cheers!
You have to realize, we live on the skin of our planet...dig down about six miles, and it's too hot for us. Go up about seven miles, and there's not enough air. The "goldilocks zone" of intelligent life is a lot smaller than we think, imo.
You’re assuming they would be biologically the same as us
What you’re saying tells me it’s unlikely another intelligent species could survive on our planet and we probably couldn’t survive on theirs. We know extremophiles exist on Earth and survive in conditions that would kill us immediately. What if intelligent life evolved from extremophiles?
@@kathleen9456exactly... we have to throw all of that away. We also have to abandon any concept of their biology looking anything like ours.
Hell they may be like atoms or thoughts for all we know.
@@kathleen9456 You're also assuming biological life can form in completely different conditions. As far as we know complex life is only possible in oxygen and water rich worlds. Technology and spaceships for instance, would not have been possible for us in a low oxygen world as fire cannot burn without oxygen. If we lived in a low oxygen world we wouldn't have discovered and mastered fire and wouldn't have been able to go to space in the first place. Similarly, if we were ocean animals we also wouldn't be able to discover and master fire. To build things we also need oppposable thumbs. Sure, intelligent life could exist in completely different settings but that does not mean they would be able to build things and leave their own planet.
There's plenty of room underground we should build houses down there
What really scares me about how ridiculously big the universe is is that it would take the Voyager probes 575 million years to be far enough away to take a picture of our galaxy
Crazy thing about size of the visible Universe is that although it is 14.5 billions of years old it's stretching over 92 billions of light years. So, even though you cannot possibly fathom its size as it is, it goes even a step further exiting the common, intuitive logic you might use to encompass it by any measure.
I like that things are still inexplicable! Without mystery there would be no spirit of enquiry or art!
I suspect it's a bit like a worm trying to understand my lawn let alone what's beyond. Not against the worm trying just happy that the mystery will prevail.
The Victorians built vast cities, traveled the globe with ease, filled libraries with their books, filled museums with fine art ... and never sent a single radio wave out into space.
But we have Tic Tok. 😢
Let's face it space is huge. Intelligent life is probably rare, and most importantly the chances of the time-line between civilizations matching up in the billions of years is almost impossible. There were probably civilizations before our sun and planets even formed, I wouldn't hold your breath on meeting aliens. It would be the greatest discovery of mankind though
For sure. Just knowing other life is out there, even if we'll never get to meet it, even if it's just microbes. It would change so much.
Yeah, but if there was advanced civilization prior to ours, we should be able to see the traces - Dyson swarms, Orbit habitats, traces of interstellar traveling etc
1. We're already there - we have 3D printers, give us couple of more decades and we'll have functional Von Neumann self replicating probes, capable of landing on any planet or asteroid, mine the material, make a copy itself and move on.
If there was an advanced civilization prior to ours capable of doing this (and it really ain't that hard) and if those probes moved at only 10% light speed, the ENTIRE Milky way galaxy should've/could've been colonised, but i mean entire - moons, asteroids, planets and all, and the time required measures in couple of million years at best
2. Dyson swarms - here it gets worse, because those are essentially just solar panels, and require only time (and money) to be placed around a Star.
That's practically unlimited energy for any civilization, and it's plausible to assume that every single advanced civilization would strive for it
Yet, we see no traces of it, no traces of ancient habitats in orbit etc
So,
Where is everybody?
@@bluedotdweller just knowing life is out there wouldn't change much among the masses. People are to selfish to give a crap. They would bring skip a beat.
Do the math, and basically the nearest alians are like 50,000 generations away. too far
Seems more likely we're just early since first generation star systems are devoid of complex elements.
Radio amateurs still use Morse, using a cable telegraph would be so next level geeky I kinda wonder if I should start that kind of a hobby.
I think the likely explanation is that intelligent life is exceptionally rare. Like 1-2 species per galaxy. And that’s not unsettling to me at all. It means there’s probably no one out there who can threaten us.
or that it takes 50,000 generations to get to the next place with life
Not really just we can't detect them , rare to me would be 100+ intelligent species per galaxy
If you actually do the math, it is actually pretty much impossible that we are here. First they tell us there are 200 billion stars with planets but about two-thirds of those are in the Galactic Centre which would not support Live as WE know it. That is, the Galaxy itself has a Habitable Zone. That is why we are on the edge of the Galaxy.
Moreover only about 2.5% of all stars are the mid-sized long-lived yellow or orange stars like our beloved Sol. That means there are actually only 1.65 Billion viable stars for Life as WE know it. Once you factor in the 20 or so factors required to sustain Life as WE know it and do the probability calculation it shows it is impossible for us to be present in the Galaxy.
Most of the "there are so many stars and planets there MUST be blah, blah, blah" is just uninformed cheerleading. Peter Ward addresses this impossibility of our existence in his books Rare Earth and The Medea Hypothesis.
There is also a book written by the chairman of the SETI committee assigned to figure out what to do if we do contact something (can't remember title; search SETI site) in which he states exactly that - since we have NO EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING WHATSOEVER coming down on one side of the fence or another is just bias and personal preference. So have a nice winter change of pace and read three excellent books by a great scientist.
Of course someone will mention "life by a different path" and that topic is addressed in a book called Life As We Do Not Know It also by Peter Ward. Cheers!
@@bonysminiatures3123 There are so many factors that have to go right for life to happen, then you have to factor in that intelligence is by no means inevitable. In 4 billion years we’re the only species we know of who has gotten to this level. Intelligence itself may very well be an evolutionary dead end. The simplest life tends to be what endures, not the complex kind.
@@TheNightWatcher1385 nobody has a clue , yet we should take life here as an example of sorts , even though life probably takes different routes to intelligence given time circumstance and other very random factors
Life is a much more delicate process to start than we appreciate.
we should only be looking at planets with large moons like ours.
the persistent but regular wetting then drying of mud flats was significant in debrief of large lipid structures
Earth orbits a single (unary) G type star which makes us uncommon because most stars are M type and most solar systems are binary. Earth is also rare because it has a large moon orbiting it. Also there is evidence that some or all of the planets in our solar system migrated to different positions in the distant past which probably makes our solar system even more rare.
This is the best video I’ve seen about the Fermi Paradox. So many of them are biased and exaggerated. This one reflects how I think about it. The conclusion I’ve held is that we simply don’t know. At this point, when our knowledge of the universe is so minuscule, that it could be said that we know nothing, we cannot come to any conclusions about whether or not there is other life in the universe. Especially since our earth is the only example we have.
It is amazing that we can imagine so many scenarios that might be realistic. But until some evidence is acquired, they are just fantasies.
Having said that, my personal wish is that some morning I will wake up and find that we have made contact with, hopefully, a friendly alien species! That would be the biggest event in human history!
There are ham radio operators who still use Morse code to talk to each other. Not required to get such a license since about 2005.
Sadly we already have a large part of the answer regarding Fermi's paradox. It's clear that interstellar travel is not really possible. The energy requirements are simply too enormous. A spaceship the size of Saturn is not practical. It's also clear that biological organisms are too short-lived to make the journey. A human descended from an original crew member by 350 generations would probably not be very appreciative of the journey. The civilization that sent the craft would have aged by another 28,000 years and it's unlikely anybody would remember sending that craft. It's also clear there is no way to power the spacecraft for such an enormous amount of time. What power source can last even a hundred years?
Your subscribers have doubled since I started watching not long ago. Very cool. Happy to see your channel grow.
The Universe was wise, putting us so far apart, yet making lightspeed so incredibly slow.
Since even the different species and individuals on only one planet alone seem to have insurmountable difficulties with the concept "getting along".
Part of me wishes it wasn't so, but you make a good point. Maybe it's for the best that we or anyone has to reach a level of peace and cooperation never seen before in order to be able to explore the universe and reach each other. Who knows, someday! I won't be around to see it happen, though.
maybe after November
@@jamescollier3 Lmao
Yes, you're being watched!
I'm excited to have found you today! Thanks for the well-produced videos, I look forward to watching all the rest! 😍
Please keep making videos.i look forward to seeing how your channel will develop - concentrate on these big questions and you could break down 'great filters' and "Schelling points" and even future technologies that could change the way we view space and time and the stars themselves.
Thanks
Thank you for posting another video. I love the subject matter but I love your presentation even more. You are so missed when you don't post.
I wish I could post more! I make these videos all by myself in my spare time. I do try to have one every month, but it all depends on the subject matter and how long the video is. All the nice comments I'm getting makes it all worth it :)
They're all there... just out of reach and out of sight, not just in distance but also in time. It is a very real possibility that very few, in no other civilisations will have have contact with each other. It's all a matter of scale.
we are using tech to detect civilizations on our tech level , so maybe we are limited to getting reply's , just the beginning for our search . Anyhow why is james webb not focusing in on alpha centauri for habitable planets , that's the first obvious place to look
What we don't know, but is true, is they're already on thier way. There's a certain amount of time it will take for them to get here and they've already decided what will happen to us when they do. Our chances of influencing their decision in any way is almost 0.
Sleep well.
We have a lot to figure out. There is no doubt in my mind there are others out there. I think the most important thing we can do is make the world a better place so one day we can answer this big question.
unless you have proof . . . belief is either magical thinking or belief akin to religion.
10:30 Actually our average age before death is dramatically lower than our baby boomer parents. We're dying off in our 50s and 60s. But our grandparents live(d) to their 80s to 100s. And our Healthcare systems are in shambles. Even here in Canada we're having problems with corruption in the political ranks.
To me this is not a paradox at all. It's just that the universe is so unimaginably large, any possible civilization is simply out of reach with our current forms of communication. The video even said that our oldest radio waves have travelled about 200 light years, maybe any other possible civilization is in the same situation. The Milky Way is about 100,000 light years across. And that's only one galaxy. Even assuming there are other civilizations, it's likely we would have no way of communicating with them.
Ok. Now imagine if we were to shout our existance to every star system and every nearby galaxy. Just that. Not the whole of the universe. Imagine how much energy it would take to send out a message to every of those recipients.
Now imagine what useful stuff one could do with all that energy.
What we need to do is wait. Or rather make progress. Right now we can detect exo-planets; but often exo-planets way to close to their stars. Once we find earth-like planets (mass, atmosphere) at right places around the stars, then we can start saying sensible things about any Fermi paradox. Before that it's just wishful guesswork.
And since live takes billions of years to develop, and one can detect markers in a planet's atmosphere about that, we can at least exclude that idea that we must hide. Our planet can be found long before we ourselves evolved.
Given the last guestimate putting the nearest like technological species 16000 light years away.
It would take about 15950 years for them to detect us and the same for us if they mirror what we do.
Will we even be around in the year 17972?
Or even 16000 years after that to receive a message?
Space is too big, that is why we cannot detect anyone else.
"We imagine there being a giant galactic society that we could join and elevate our own in the process. After all, isn't that what we would do if we became a highly advanced race capable of sailing the cosmic seas?" - The correct answer to that question is that no, that is actually not what we would do, since we shouldn't at all dare to do that (and the same holds for every civilization in the universe, at all times). If you want to know why (including the theory of everything that is important), then search online for the term "Ethics on Cosmic Scale" for recent results.
You must also consider how this theory is compounded by Multi-dimension realities too.
Fun to ponder this stuff but moot....given our mental limitations.....coffee time...cheerio..
*The reason humans can't find aliens, is because they do NOT understand the Universe in its True Context !*
As I've gotten older, I've come to the conclusion that we're likely one if not the first of the intelligent technological species in our particular galaxy. But the real barrier here, and always, is time. We have no way of detecting ruins on a planet. We've only just gotten to the edge of the tech necessary to detect the chemical biosignals that an exoplanet might exhibit. If any species had learned how to jump the gaps between the stars with "manned" ships, I wouldn't be typing this message, would I?
Should we really be signalling out to potential threats? Personally, I'm optimistic, so it's a 'yes' from me, but if you enjoy science-fiction where contacting aliens is an existential blunder, I think you'd like Cixin Liu's Three-Body trilogy. It's really interesting.
What if we are the only ones in the universe, or at least in this region of space. The universe is so enormous and infinitely vast if not endless. We cannot from where we are see the boundaries of space.. neither can we accurately know it's age or assume there was a ridiculous big bang. Our theories cannot explain away everything we don't know or understand.
In my humble opinion, with the increase in the possibility of departing from the place of origin or away from home spheres, the tendency to not respect social rules increases, along with the growth of civilizational liberalism of individuals, its dysfunctionality also grows, which leads to drives closer to instinctive perception, away from contemplation or self-awareness, in thus every civilization falls into a destructive sociological trap leading to self-elimination
Aggression is instinct learned over time for survival. An advanced form of life would have had to survive past the point of no return. It's where we are now. Any being that could get here has gotten beyond self destruction. When weapons can't be used without total destruction you learn to survive by getting along. There is no other choice. This is why love always wins. Hatred is based in fear, it even hates itself. How could hatred be all powerful? Hatred and evil are abhorrent and weak whereas love is the strongest bond there is. Good and bad, love and hate, good and evil? No. Just respect for creation.
Everybody is here. If i decided to join this universe, i would go to earth aswell. All are idiots here of course but they are at least amusing to look at and i don't have to butcher food by myself. But seriously, all of this is either a prison or a test, so naturally you have to interact with others to learn whatever. So everybody has to be here.
Not unsettling to me. It means the universe is our playground for any brave and clever souls who can reach the stars. Some humans may escape to other worlds and away from the crazy politics of humans who rule this planet that call nature evil and call evil a virtue.
Everyone always ask “Where are the aliens”
But nobody ever asks “How are the aliens”
How are you aliens?
I’m good thanks
Yes!
When I hear stories about aliens being held at Area 51, for example, my first thought is “how are they being treated?” And “why don’t they let them out?”
If there actually are aliens being held somewhere, I hope the people holding them realize that they are actual beings, and shouldn’t be treated like slaves, prisoners or zoo animals!
But these are humans we’re talking about. And you know how they are.
Nanunanu
Some of us consider ourselves intelligent in this "bluedot" and ignore the beautiful species in this planet. 🤔
How are they uncomfortable? 🤦🏼♂️
We are alone
Maybe there just wasn't enough processor power to simulate another intelligent species.
Great channel! Keep it up! My thoughts on the Fermi paradox recently took a seismic shift when i learned about Von Neumann probes: it's a concept where a civilization sends a probe to a new star. There a bunch of robots mine available asteroids/rocky planets, gathers energy from the star, and creates copies of itself. Then it sends out several replicated probes to a few neighboring stars. We are only 100 years or so away from doing this. If possible, this exponential growth, even if it takes thousands of years to travel and build copies, would populate the entire galaxy in a few million years. *Millions* sounds big but it is nothing compared to the *billions* of years of history and future of the universe. In addition it would be safe from any type of destruction after just a few iterations since there will be thousands (or millions) of copies.
So some other civilization should have done this already, which should have left lots of evidence.
But the alternative, saying we are the first or alone, violates the Copernican principle
In one of Isaac Asimov book, astronauts are put to sleep in ship for 500 years (I think) to get to the designated planet but the thing is during that time, mankind kept advancing technologically and by the time the ship reached the planet, it was fully populated. I would say the same thing here applies unless of course there is no way to go faster than C. Give us a thousand years just to see where we are. It makes me wonder....
I think we are one of the first in our galaxy and other galaxies are soo far away we are seeing them as they where millions or billions of years ago so we can't see anything there yet.
Enjoyed the video, thanks. Really there are just no data, so it's impossible to draw any conclusions about the prevalence of intelligent life in the universe. We may know that there are no nearby civilizations directing powerful radio or laser beacons directly at us, but it is not yet possible for us to detect radiation leakage of the order we emit, for example. And, as you note, advanced civilizations may be using communications tech that is completely unknown to us, and thus undetectable. I think we should put more effort into looking for artifacts, such as alien probes, in our solar system. There are some obvious places they might be hiding, such as in Earth's Lagrange points or among Jupiter's Trojan asteroids, or even on the moon.
If aliens came here I believe they would be interested in the Pet overlords that sleep all day on my couch while I slave.
They will and must send robots and artificial intelligence out in space it will work
Pretty much SOS on the Fermi paradox. The sad thing is that too many "scientific types" are afraid to explore the possible reasons for no contact. Remember this:
"Good fences make good neighbors." Robert Frost
Light speed makes a very good fence.
The only place we can confirm "intelligent" life also confirms the rarity of life making the tools we use... Less than .0000001% of the creatures that have ever existed on Earth are capable of making a radio or propelled vehicles for travel. We're a very short lived species, thus far, and wouldn't even be able to find ourselves in another star system
The Fermi irony. He helped destroy the 1st alien civilization in the universe.
Aliens aren't going to show themselves to us until we are a peaceful species and invite them.
Quite a intelligent beautiful young woman . Impressive .
Love your topic and explanations. You are a quite lovely and I love your look.
I have two possible scenarios that potentially explain the Fermi Paradox, one is benign and encouraging, the other more sinister:
1. Contentment and Technology. We make the huge assumption that as a civilisation becomes more advanced they will place more and more reliance on technology, expansion and growth, to the point where either their technology should be detectable across the expanse of space, or they would reach out and contact us. However, it's quite possible that an advanced civilisation could achieve a level of peace, harmony, spiritual contentment so that they have no great need for excessive technology or expansion. Perhaps they've solved major problems of war, poverty, hunger, disease. So we're looking for signs of technological civilisations out there when perhaps our faith in technology as the 'answer to everything' is only a sign of our own civilisation not being very advanced or intelligent at all.
2. Artificial Intelligence Control. It's possible that as a civilisation becomes advanced it can't resist the desire to create stronger and stronger artificial intelligence to serve its own needs, but maybe there's a point at which the AI inevitably becomes more intelligent and more independent from biological life. Perhaps at this point the AI systems diverge from the agenda of its creators and AI concludes that the uncontrolled expansion and growth of an intelligent biological species is harmful to all other biological life. Or even obstructs the new purpose and agenda of the AI, whatever that may be. Already there are small signs of this here on earth (search for 'No, this angry AI isn't fake, w Elon Musk'). It may be an inevitable stage in biological intelligent life where it is completely taken over and subdued - or even eliminated - by its own AI creations.
I Think it is absurd that we can think that our meager radio signals - light years away
Adequate channel for astronomy 101 but I need 401 .
If there are peace loving aliens out there, who thinks they would want anything to do with us?
I think they (if they are peace loving) would put some kind of exclusion zone around us.
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They would not consider us intelligent life. We constantly try to destroy one another. Savage!
Where is everybody......look around we're everywhere we can be.
Listening is smart, yelling while your alone in the jungle is idiotic 😅
Our minds have been contaminated with science fiction... Star Wars, Star Trek, etc., where intelligent life is everywhere.
personally life is obvious and abundant same as i predicated exo planets back in the 1980's where some scientist's never
Look around, they are here and have likely been for thousands of years!
maybe advanced intelligent life few and far between, even galaxies away?
No matter how abundant life is, we may be the first to reach high levels of technology. We may be The Forerunners.
Imagine being the first frog to emerge onto a lilly pad in a cosmic pond. We croak, but no answer returns. Lonely, we venture back into the depths from whence we emerged, to swim and occasionally cry out in our solitude.
But if life is itself a force, which I hypothesize might be the case, then we could well be just the first arrivals in the springtime of existence. Soon, other changlings, under the enfluence of that same primal life force, will emerge to sing in the chorus of the Great Night.
Is it our place to call forth those others primed for the stars? Are we worthy to be the Elder Brother? Can we change, become more, better, balanced? How can we not attempt our destiny?
That was beautiful and thought provoking, thank you.
When the golden records play forever finishes a lap.
The distance between stars is a natural barrier even for the most advanced . They are there and we will find them...100 % certain of that.
..based on?
Pls dont say “bc universe so big!”
So? What rules out odds of biogenesis being so small?
There is no paradox. They are here
yup
I do not think we have the means to detect life or signs of habitation- We might be close to see barely we might see signs of water or chemicals of life
But we can not even see planets other than transits- a very crude method- seeing shadows
Is that a werewolf holding the golden record at 13:52 ¿?
Don't worry the only thing to be afraid of is us!
OMG ! I loved this . I have always had the paradox mentioned but this content unpacks it .I am pretty sure it's distance . I am glad . We couldn't handle . It instantly become a religious / political dealo and turn the joy of discovery into street theatre. I think getting to know crows and octopi is good practice . Love the scientist !
We are pets that don't know that we are pets. .. .
Also the amount of signals we send into space has been greatly reduced.
The other thing we need to realize: it's space and time, so it's not just distance, but also when they've only been looking for 50+ years and that's nothing on the scale of the universe. We might be the first as you mentioned, but their might have been civilizations for thousands of years but they've already gone. We've lost of many civilizations on our own planet. A lot of knowledge from them is lost (fire Alexandria) which we couldn't really build on anymore, we had kind of to start over.
Love the topic and the lipstick x.
Very interesting, but why unsettling?
Nothing to see here, Earthlings. 👽
I'm hitting the like button before even watching, just based on the title, how is it this topic doesn't bother people more?
Basically the whole Universe is watching what happens on Earth now.
They can see everyone with perfect clarity all the time.
So if you think you can hide anything, you are wrong.
Everything you think is known by the higher beings.
They know why you do the things you do.
You can not hide your intentions even.
Super Earth’s are said to be more common and more habitable than earth size planets. It’s hard to imagine such planets without thinking about Star Wars 😅
Which begs the question of space faring races if super earths are common. We are on the ragged edge of rockets not working in our gravitational field.
Such a cool channel 🫡🥳
Yes very good channel! Science is the magic of the past and the mysteries of the future.
Why do people continually consider that The Earth, being the only place with/for LIFE, is somehow dreadful and unsettling to the human psyche? So we are alone, so what? Who cares? We've done all this by ourselves, we will go on all by ourselves. It's like being a grown up. Once you are no longer a child and you've grown up, then you go out and do your own thing and make your own money and exist in your own sphere of influence.
Get used to it.
Absolutely! don't get this obsession with thinking/hoping of alien life elsewhere-as you say who cares? As for traveling to other star systems, we can forget that too, the nearest star is around 60,000 years away with present technology and a planet-sized fuel tank.
@@Efferpheasants Even IF we COULD go at the speed of light, what happens when a grain of sand hit the earth at the speed of light? What do you think it will do to a spaceship if we hit some dust in the heavens??? BOOOOOMMMMM that's what. It's just pointless. Meanwhile, how many people starve while we play with our little rockets and trips to Mars and the Moon and back???
@@gbsailing9436 Just thinking of what a small stone did to my windshield at 40mph LOL
@@Efferpheasants LOL, yeah. Exactly! I know that the people who make these rockets and all this space stuff happen and the physicists and astronomers, etc. are all incredibly smart, yet when I think of this simple fact: E=mc2, I have to ask myself, how dumb are they? Why do they keep pushing this shit? Why do they keep applying for more and more money? Ok they want a job I understand that, but realistically, It's just not going to work. And to what end?
I think you're probably right when you talk about the distances involved. Just traveling to the Alpha Cetauri system with present technology would take tens of thousands of years. And the probablies of finding intelligence there, knowing what we do about that system, is slim at best. Imagine some other intelligence trying to explore the immensity of our galaxy, even with highly advanced technology. Never mind intergalactic travel, which I would deem impossible.
There is the Kardashev scale, which is a method of measuring a civilization's level of technological advancement based on the amount of energy it is able to use. Physicists theorize that a level one civilization has mastered the energy of their planet. We aren't there yet. A level two civilization is able to harness the energy of their star, and a level three galactic civilization is theorized to have the ability to harness the energy of black hole. Gravity shapes and influences space and time, so we physicists theorize that a level three civilization would be able to use the energy of gravity to control space time. This is theoretically possible because Einstein's equations allow for wormholes and time travel, which is what I am getting to. Theoretically and I can say this only because the math comes out clean every time that it is put to the test. The math says that if we could control gravity like a level three civilization, we could bend space and time and create portals to other worlds.
We physicists know quantum entanglement magic is very real. The Nobel prize in physics 2022 has just been awarded for 50 plus years of research proving that non locality and entanglement have no hidden variables, the magic is real. This means that, yes Einstein, God does play dice. And there is spooky action at a distance. Entanglement and non locality show the world that information can be shared instantly between any two points in the universe instantaneously, faster than the speed of light.
This is a great big deal in science. QM also has implications beyond entanglement. QM experiments also show that mind influences matter. That intentional awareness, the sole act of observation, influences matter and outcome.
Hell even Hams no longer use CW or Morse!
Ahh... Loved this.. Yea.. It will be one of most magical moments for modern humanity.. No matter the result of it
I am binge-watching your videos, lol. All very thought-provoking and excellently delivered. In this case, I think the vastness of space "multiplied" by rarity of intelligent life "multiplied" by different timescales of when potential intelligent life arises gives chances of any contact close to zero, with vastness of space being the most important factor.
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Great video ! *note...look at the reply to the message Carl Sagan sent from the Aricibo radio telescope....the reply was a giant crop circle in Britain...look at the reply's version of our radio telescope...very interesting
Hi blue - Well done! One observation: I think you are underestimating the likelihood that supposed advanced civilizations may well strangle themselves with materials, conditions, and politics that quite quickly drive them to extinction, and eliminate the opportunity of searching for or being discovered by others.
Thanks! I do only briefly mention societies might self destruct - maybe I'll make a specific video on that topic in the future.
Time and distance is why we'll never talk to an alien lol. Even if JWST got a definite technosignature from a planet 500 light years away. It'd be looking 500 years in the past. If they could look back at us they have same problem. We'd always be in each other's past no matter what we do
We cannot see them because they are hiding. And we must learn from that fact.
Very well said. These things, I think some are spiritual and live in the realm of consciousness.
The atoms and fields of our universe might just be the communication of these beings, like as if we are just a fungus growing on the side of a cellphone or a digital virus in their technology
There are two possibilities: there is other intelligent life in the Universe, or we are entirely alone. Either is profoundly not alarming, worrying or horrifying.
Who said that, Arthur c Clark I think
Yep, a quote from Arthur C. Clarke!
@@bluedotdweller With a bit of a twist. ;) I'm saying (paraphrasing his words) that Clarke got it beautifully, gloriously, the exact opposite of the truth. The truth now certainly appears there's nothing the least terrifying about the equation at all. It's fascinating, yes, but utterly academic.
@@anthonyrose915 It's a reversed twist on a well known Clarke quote. It's a play on his statement, making the opposite conclusion. To my mind the paradox isn't Fermi's, it's his 'paradox'. As we learn more and more it becomes increasing likely that it doesn't matter if there are or aren't other intelligent species, either way we are alone and probably always will be. The implications of that conclusion seem to be a bit more fundamental than any speculation on why we haven't detected any...yet. I increasingly suspect that not only are we the only intelligence we'll ever encounter in this Universe, but we may also even be the first. Thus, in a basic way, the Copernican Revolution comes 'full circle'.
@@nomdeguerre7265 Totally agree. It's amazing how the 'terrifying' meme spreads like the plague. You may have noticed how it's infected numerous cosmology titles. In truth, orders of magnitude less terrifying than a dog peeing on my hydrangeas. To be fair, this title was watered down to 'Deeply Unsettling'. Codswallop.
How hard would it be for an alien race to create a large aquarium where the most intelligent species perceived their "world" just as it presents to us now? But yet not be real real.
"All they did was eat, replicate and die."
Sounds familiar. Lol!
BTW: If Thea hadn't hit the Earth she wouldn't have a tilted axis (= seasons etc.), an iron core ( magnetic field) and such a big moon (tides, stabization).
Then we had Jupiter which guarded us, a quiet place in our galaxy, the right distance to the sun, water, the right kind of sun, no quasars etc. near us, the right ingrrdients for life, Earth's volcanoes & tectonic plates (mountains), the right rotation speed of our Earth, no gamma ray burst nearby and more facts that made life possible in the first place.
WOW!
Hi there fellow Blue Dot Dweller,
'The Universe Is Yet Young'
The Universe is filled with light and yet we hear no voices
We are alone, we are but one, and we alone have choices
Maybe it is early yet, we wait for super novae
after all it's only time, a lifetime's naught to go by.
Basically, until a first-generation star explodes, the universe is not capable of bearing life. After the various more complex elements formed by atomic fusion are freed from the interior of a star they form a nebula which then, because the parent star was huge, forms a number of sun-like stars. These will most likely have planets, but the planets may not be conducive to life forming. Of our planets it looks like Earth is the only one that promotes the development of life. It has taken about 2 billion years for the planet Earth to cool down after formation, and another 2.5 billion years for life to develop into 'us'. Let's call that 5 billion, then add the time it takes for the nebula to condense into stars and planets, say another 5 billion years, give or take a couple of billion, then the first generation star has to form, burn, and die, and although these huge stars burned bright and didn't live long, they still take between, let's say 2 and 5 billion years to go supernova, and how long to form from the hydrogen of the big bang? Let's say 3 to 5 billion years.. By this reckoning, there isn't time for life to have formed yet.. But it has, here we are. I have for many years looked at the stars in this young universe and imagined that we are very much alone.
I wrote the poem while studying Physics And Philosophy Joint at Kings college between my 31st and 36th year. I had read a book by Laurence Krause about the life journey of the universe when I was 18. If I remember correctly, we are a small percentage of the way through the life of the universe with glowing stars. After stars go out the universe will be dark, with only black holes making up galaxies. The life, according to Mr Krause, of the dark universe of black holes as they wind down, will be about 150 times the life of the universe that preceded it with burning stars. If life exists by then, says Laurence, it may eek-out an existence circling a black hole. I'm now wondering when any life in the universe will become mortally dependent upon technology to survive..
The simplest answer to the Fermi paradox is that there is no paradox. They are here and have been for a long, long time.
The Fermi Paradox is such an entitled idea. Tje universe is monolithic. I, sure there are many life forms, and not carbon based. To think they should be in contact already is beyond laughable. Let's just figure out how we expand to our solar system.
However, we ;ook to space while we test Eeath like sht. Not very intelligent, don't you think? How about fixing the crap we are doing to Earth, them empwoe ourselves to make going to s[ace worthwhile?
Fermi Paradox -- 1. Life must be plentiful in the Universe. 2. Why haven't they found Earth?
Fuuree Explanation -- A. Aliens did visit Earth. B. They watched UA-cam cat videos for a day. C. There was no evidence of intelligent life. D. They left.
Let's not delude ourselves. If we could get to other, less advanced, civilizations out there, we wouldn't elevate them. We'd exploit them for financial gain, like we do to everything.
Just found your channel; which was inevitable 13:00 I remember the launch of Pioneer and Voyager. Most of the space age is within in our lifetime; i.e. there is definitely billions of other civilizations out there.🧶Cosmology is in accord with Alan Watts. 23:00 This survey doesn't account for everyone who believes there is intelligent life in the universe, not necessarily in the Milky Way...but of course it's prevalent everywhere. Anyone who thinks otherwise is as shortsighted as if they find a plant in the desert and think, "hmmm, most likely this plant is an anomaly and there are no other plants anywhere." In Planet of the Apes the scientist correctly pointed out, "where there's one there's another..and another". But just think: we were only able to progress so far in about one century from a species that couldn't even get off the ground to one that can send out interplanetary probes. And it's only been a few individuals: Copernicus, Einstein, etc. that moved us forward; most people didn't even know the Earth was a planet until a few hundred years ago (they ignored Aristarchus of Samos' idea for 18 centuries)
In my mind, there is no question that they're out there. My Career is well established. My texts books are required reading in all the major capitals on planet earth. If you want to become a physicist to learn about the unified field theory-you read my books. Therefore, I'm in a position to say: Yes- Most likely they're out their, perhaps even visited, perhaps on our moon."
-- Professor Michio Kaku
There is abundant evidence we are being contacted, that civilizations have been visiting us for a very long time, that their appearance is bizarre in any form of traditional, materialistic, western point of view, that these visitors use the technology of consciousness, they use co-rotating magnetic discs for their propulsion systems, that seems to be a common denominator of the UFO phenomenon, and how they can manipulate time and space locally, so they can have their own anti-gravity propulsion and their own field of energy that's isolated through electro-gravitational fields."
- Brian O'Leary Former NASA astronaut and Princeton professor of physics.
Dr. Hermann Oberth, who pioneered rocket design for the German Reich during World War II and later advanced rocket technology for the American manned space launches, cryptically stated:
“We cannot take the credit for our record advancement in certain scientific fields alone; we have been helped.” When asked by whom, he replied: “The people of other worlds.”
"I've been convinced for a long time that the flying saucers are real and interplanetary. Another words we are being watched by beings from outer space."
--Albert M. Chop, deputy public relations director, National Aeronautics and Space Administration,(NASA) and former United States Air Force spokesman for Project Blue Book.
"When the long awaited solution to the UFO problem comes, I believe that it will prove to be not merely the next small step in the march of science, but a mighty and totally unexpected quantum leap." "We had a job to do, whether right or wrong, to keep the public from getting excited"
--Dr.J Allen Hynek, Director US Air Force´s project Blue Book as a scientific consultant, astronomer, investigator and analysis.
"Given the millions of billions of Earth-like planets, life elsewhere in the Universe without a doubt, does exist. In the vastness of the Universe we are not alone."
--Albert Einstein
"It is my thesis that flying saucers are real and that they are space ships from another solar system.There is no doubt in my mind that these objects are interplanetary craft of some sort. I and my colleagues are confident that they do not originate in our solar system."
--Dr. Herman Oberth (The father of modern rockerty)
"I am completely convinced that UFOs have an out-of-world basis."
--Dr. Walther Riedel (Once chief designer and research director at the German rocket center in Peenemunde)
"The possibility of reduced-time interstellar travel either by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations at present or ourselves in the future, is not fundamentally constrained by physical principles."
-- Dr. Harold Puthoff (Director, Institute for advanced studies at Austin, Author of fundamentals of Quantum Electronics)
"The evidence is overwhelming that Planet Earth is being visited by intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft. In other words, SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. Most are not. It's clear from the Opinion Polls and my own experience, that indeed most people accept the notion that SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. The greater the education, the MORE likely to accept this proposition"
-- Stanton Friedman Defense Contractor Nuclear Physicist
"Extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. The Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nuncios (embassies) in various countries, such as Mexico, Chile and Venezuela."
-- Monsignor Corrado Balducci As stated 5 different times on Italian TV** (Vatican theologian insider close to the Pope,Monsignor Balducci said that he is on a Vatican commission looking into extraterrestrial encounters, and how to cope with the emerging general realization of extraterrestrial contact.)
"I am convinced that these ojects do exist and that they are not manufactured by any nations on earth"
--Air Chief Marshal Lord Dowding (Commander-in-chief, Royal Air Force Fighter Command) (3) An outpouring of UFO reports which forces response in high places, particularly when unknowns virtually blitzed the U.S. capitol in Washington, D.C. An Air Force intelligence analysis also concluded that UFOs were interplanetary spaceships. (1952)
"The UFO phenomenon being reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious"
--General Nathan Twining Chairman, Joint chiefs of staff, 1955-1958
"Unknown objects are operating under intelligent control... It is imperative that we learn where UFOs come from and what their purpose is. I can tell you, behind the scenes, high ranking military officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs"
--Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter (Former director of the Central Intelligence Agency)
"The possibility of reduced-time interstellar travel either by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations at present or ourselves in the future, is not fundamentally constrained by physical principles."
-- Dr. Harold Puthoff (Director, Institute for advanced studies at Austin, Author of fundamentals of Quantum Electronics)
Your subject matter is fascinating and your delivery is excellent ...Good luck with your channel.
To your point of “alien life could be too alien”, it’s worth bearing in mine that compressed, encrypted communication looks like random noise. What do we see when we tune to various frequencies coming from space? Random noise. It’s a small window of a race’s existence that it uses analog or uncompressed/unencrypted radio signals. We still send analog AM/FM. But digital FM exists now. Tune to those stations with an analog FM radio and we hear white noise. Someday, radio bands will be repurposed entirely and will all contain what looks like random noise.
I don't believe any of us should get excited over the Fermi Paradox. The most important principle to the idea is, it's easily acceptable to envision life on another planet. Given what we know today and a little bit about what we don't know. The question "Where are all the aliens if this is true?" This is a question that is simply apart of the flawed human condition and how our brains work. We falsely expect results to every problem or idea. Results play a part in our everyday lives no matter what we're doing. The simple truth is that the human brain/mind has just begun to understand how BIG our galaxy is in the last 100 hundred years, let alone the entire universe. If you set modern religion aside, what happened on earth had to of happened on another planet. Earth is 4.5 Billion years old and it's thought the entire universe is 13 billion years old. Surely life arose in another time & space. There is another idea the human condition cannot process. Time. Most religions humans have invented all put everything as much much younger. Humans don't like the idea that we're not the center on the universe. The Roman Catholic church actually put people to death for accurately observing that we're not even at the center of our own solar system. Our Star is. Just because our radio telescopes can't detect them, and our probes go unharrassed doesn't mean they aren't there. Humans could still be considered primitive as we're not even a type 1 civilization on the Kardashev scale.
If another lifeform has figured out how to travel those vast distances in space that sperate us and keep us seemingly jailed on our own planet. They would be true God's to us. Humans can barely conceive time & distance when it comes to the Universe. The best answer to the question "Where are all the Aliens?" In your fav Sci-Fi novel.
Keep dreaming.
Everybody is dead