Using the Power Station's Self-Attenuation Feature for Silent Recording
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2021
- Here's an incredibly useful trick to add power tube saturation to your DI guitar tracks using the Fryette Power Station!
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The Fryette Power Station® - a new amplifier attenuator and re-amplification solution, offering players intuitive and precise control over amplifier volume, distortion behavior and a wide range of highly refined tonal qualities previously unavailable from any single attenuating or re-amping product.
Built on decades of experience producing the finest all-tube power amps available, the Power Station is a practical and highly functional tool that solves problems frequently encountered in live playing and recording environments. It beautifully accentuates the inherent qualities of any amplifier and allows your amplifier to breathe and dynamically respond to your playing technique the way a great guitar amp should. The Power Station is designed to be transparent, user friendly, reliable and ultra-responsive to a wide array of guitar amplifier and speaker types. It also integrates seamlessly with any combination of internal and external speaker configurations.
The Power Station also excels as a power booster, something that no other attenuator can do. Just as you would connect a big amp to reduce output volume, the Power Station can also be used to boost the output of a small amplifier. Imagine taking your mini-amp or small vintage combo to a gig and having enough power to be heard without sacrificing feel and tonal quality. It is not only possible, but easy and fun!
Finally, your Power Station functions as a versatile silent reactive load for direct recording by simply connecting the Balanced or Unbalanced Line out to your recording interface.
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Music and guitar dude = Joe Gamble: / @joegambleguitar - Розваги
This just blew my mind.
Great stuff. Really digging these. Very informative.
Thanks Joe. This was the final piece to my GP/DI & PS-1 puzzle. Had been going direct from the GP/DI since the day it came out and using PS-1 for my Aether. Bought a PS-2A for the GP/DI because of the balanced out, but was running into issues. This was all it took. That and Steve said it would work a couple of months ago....Now using PS-2A with my Sound City ML50 so I can mic the cab and go direct.
thanks guys, what a great hang
i'm running my triaxis into the power station. sounds fantastic!
THK you of’ the video! : in order to run my axe FX3 into my brand new Fryette PS2 line in, which kind of jack cable shall I use : an unbalanced instrument cable like for guitars or a Balanced one (trs) (the axe FX3 provides only one kind of jack output, which is unbalanced, otherwise it has a balanced xlr output, but the PS2 line in is at a jack format). Many thanks in advance, the PS2 is awesome !!!!
@@thieaoumus8372 you should probably consult the axe manual.
THIS !!! THIS is what i wanted to know ! Now I can go and buy it jajajaja
Thank you !!!
Very cool! Thank you
I wish this had been in the manual but thanks a lot - exactly what I needed to know. You don't need to answer my email anymore 😄
Class is in session!
You could use this on a send from your recording session to add tube saturation to anything. This would kill for synths. Pretty neat routing setup.
Exactly right!
Doesn’t the GP/DI have a built in 1W power section and reactive load already or does the line out bypass that part of the circuit?
How do the front switches hi/lo and the engage switch (next to power) need to be set in these applications.
Could you please let me know if you could use the XLR line out instead of the 1/4 inch line out in this self-attenuation mode?
Thanks for the video! I just bought a PS-2A. I have a couple of questions, if you're so kind to help me.
1. When I turn the PS-2A on I can hear the fan making a "starting" noise, and then then fan is quite loud.
2. When my amp is off, and just the Fryette is on - I hear some background noise when I switch from bypass to operate.
Are these things normal?
Thanks a bunch!
WOOHOO
How can I take advantage of this when incorporating an amp switcher? I have a KHE 8 channel switcher and currently have an Ox Box in the attenuator loop for the KHE, but I have a PS-100 on order and planned to power my Synergy rack unit with it. Would I run the Synergy into the line-in on the Ps100 and the speaker out of the ps100 into one of the the 8 amp-inputs of the switcher?
Did you ever figure this out?
Great video Joe! I am wondering how would I record my Twin Reverb with my pedal board in stereo? Do I need another PS? Thanks a lot.
No need for a second PS. Assuming your pedal board is in front of the amp, send the PS Line Out to your DAW, use an IR plugin for the cab sound, and use your reverb and delay plug-ins to record in stereo.
@@FryetteAmps Thank you so much for the info!!! That is a piece of great news for me!
Any sort of suggested time limit (per session) on running the power station dimed? Making sure not to over stress the power amp.
and also preserving power amp tubes life i guess :)
What is the best way to set levels? Amp>PS-2A, Line Out>Interface
When I use the PS-2A in silent record mode, my amp sounds distorted, using either of the line outs. However, I'm not clipping the interface/DAW. I have to turn my amp down so low to clean it up that the signal is too low to record. Any suggestions?
Did you try using Line In on your interface instead of Instrument In?
So can I use the other speaker output and plug my cabinet in ? While I can record I can play with my live band ?
This is my question too. I think no because at the end he says you can send the line out to ANOTHER power amp. (?!) 🤔
How do o run my amp at more than volume 2, without the line out overloading whatever i plug it in to ?
I have the same question!
What are the pickups in that guitar? Some sort of gold foil thing?
Yeah. They're Ronin's own take on the goldfoil thing.
Probably answered here somewhere already, but I haven't come across it, so ill ask again...Can I run this cable set-up and simultaneously run a cable from the Fryette "Speaker Out 2" connection on into a traditional Speaker Cab? Essentially giving me 2 sources of sound from the Fryette at the same time (Line-out & Speaker Out 2). thanks
Yes, with the caveat that if you want to crank the Power Stations power amp stage, the added cab will get loud.
Can you do this same setup with silent recording, but also run out of speaker 2 into a real speaker cab to monitor with now latency?
@@d.a.9933 hi, I'm also looking to run this set-up, and had the same query....so when you say the "Attenuator setting", are you referring to the attenuator setting on the Fryette? For example, I'm looking to run this "self-attenuation" cable set-up, and also run a cable from "Speaker Out 2" into a 16ohm Greenback speaker cab....do I set both ohm settings on the Fryette at 16ohm? Thanks
Can you use the out two to power a cab while doing this? Or is that not possible? Looking to access the voicing switches and volume control when plugged into cabs.
Yes.
How would you set impedances in this scenario, eg. You use a 16 ohm cab
Is the signal sent to the cab attenuated aswell?
I'd like the run a preamp into PS and have the PS attenuate it's own power amp while playing through a cab
Quick question if anyone can help......if I take this cable connection set-up just as was done here, can I slightly modify the final part, (the LineOut, to the interface/DAW part). Instead of running into an Interface/DAW, can I substitute the Interface and run into a Two Notes Opus IR Cab Sim instead, and then plug headphones into the Opus for silent practice?
My set up would be...
Guitar--->kingsley maiden/constable preamps---->fryette PS-2A---->Two Notes Opus Ir cab sim--->Headphones coming from Opus
Thank you
Yes you can plug the lineout of the PS to a Two Notes pedal that has the DynIR thing. Just adjust the in level of the opus accordingly.
So in theory...say using a UAD Apollo with an AMP Sim in the Unison slot. Could I use the preamp of the sim, bypass the sim power section, and specify no cab , line out that signal to the PS100 line in, and follow the rest of your example? Ok not sure why I would do that other than to play around and see what an AMP sim sounds like using this technique. Some of the UDA plugins give you the ability to bypass the power section.
Yes, you can do that if you can defeat the cab and PS sims as you suggested.
I’m assuming this applies to the PS-100 as well. I just want to be certain before I make my final purchase decision
Absolutely Thomas!
Very cool. But after all is said and done, getting that extra power amp saturation basically sounded like engaging a Big Muff Pi.
Not sure if I get it right but isn’t the amp in of PS supposed to output through speaker out? Even if I plug in the line out the signal should still go to the speaker out, no?
Yes, but only in bypass mode.
@@FryetteAmps I’ve re-read the manual and am still a bit confused. If I plug in to the amp in from my amp I’m hitting the reactive load and then if the unit is on the signal goes to its power section, if not I still get the load and can safely output the line signal. If I plug something into the line in it goes directly to the power section (unless the unit is turned off). Now if I have both the line in and the amp in signal how come the amp in signal does not get looped through the power section? Does the line in signal prevent the amp in signal (which still gets the load) from hitting the power section?
@@AndreiDzimchuk That's right. There is a full signal flow chart on the Power Station page of our website here: fryette.com/power-station-integrated-reactance-amplifier/
So in silent mode I’m not able to use the fx loop so I can use my delay ? Or is there a way to use the fx loop?
Connect your delay to the FX Send which is still active even if the PS in powered down. Page 9 example 4: fryette.com/content/Power_Station_PS2A_Manual.pdf
@@FryetteAmps thank you for the help.
@@FryetteAmps I forgot to ask but if I turn the power on to use the fan and keep it in bypass mode is it ok to use the send and return on the FX loop?
@@Meairdah The FX return feeds the power amp, which only helps you if using a cab or running in Self Attenuation mode, which means you have to be in Operate mode.
@@FryetteAmps thank you again for taking time to help. I’m excited to try it out.
Thank you Joe for this amazing tutorial, i was wonder how can i connect a Marshall SV20H and The Fryette Power Station 2 for Recording into an audio interface? The DI line out from Marshall SV20H sucks in my opinion, even with a IR cab loader software like NI Guitar Rig. Is there is any workaround using the a recording output from Fryette PS2 instead of the Marshall SV20H,? Thank you :)
Sam setup as connecting the Line Out to a Mixer in Silent Mode. Just replace mixer with DAW. See manual page 9 application example 4. fryette.com/content/Power_Station_PS2A_Manual.pdf
@@FryetteAmps Thank you Joe, will try it out.
why is there reverb on the track at 4:53? a demo like this should be bone dry.
You rarely have bone dry cleans in a final mix (and even during tracking), and even with slight reverb here you hear the impact of power amp level differences on the overall guitar tone just as well.