Fryette Power Station - Silent Recording with IRs
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- This video is a quick introduction to using the Power Station's silent recording feature. It's by no means exhaustive and there are more tips and tricks to be covered in future videos but this should definitely be of help to anyone who's wondering where to start with getting their amp's signal into the Power Station and then on into their computer in a usable form.
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The Fryette Power Station® - a new amplifier attenuator and re-amplification solution, offering players intuitive and precise control over amplifier volume, distortion behavior and a wide range of highly refined tonal qualities previously unavailable from any single attenuating or re-amping product.
Built on decades of experience producing the finest all-tube power amps available, the Power Station is a practical and highly functional tool that solves problems frequently encountered in live playing and recording environments. It beautifully accentuates the inherent qualities of any amplifier and allows your amplifier to breathe and dynamically respond to your playing technique the way a great guitar amp should. The Power Station is designed to be transparent, user friendly, reliable and ultra-responsive to a wide array of guitar amplifier and speaker types. It also integrates seamlessly with any combination of internal and external speaker configurations.
The Power Station also excels as a power booster, something that no other attenuator can do. Just as you would connect a big amp to reduce output volume, the Power Station can also be used to boost the output of a small amplifier. Imagine taking your mini-amp or small vintage combo to a gig and having enough power to be heard without sacrificing feel and tonal quality. It is not only possible, but easy and fun!
Finally, your Power Station functions as a versatile silent reactive load for direct recording by simply connecting the Balanced or Unbalanced Line out to your recording interface.
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Music and guitar dude = Joe Gamble: / @joegambleguitar - Розваги
Fantastic explanation, I appreciate you cutting to the chase to get viewers up and running quickly using IRs
Thanks Stephen! We try and keep the yapping to a minimum in these videos.
Thank for this vid, just picked up a barely used one for 400 on Friday, time to record today !!
Thank you so much for explaining and showing the connections. I just ordered a PS-100 so now I’ll know exactly what to do to record directly. And I had no idea Logic had a plugin that would load IRs. Thanks again!
Another way to do it is you just want a tone to jam with is to load a free/paid version of Bias or Amplitube. Just turn the amp and any pedal sims before it off, but leave the speaker sim and any post effects like reverb on. Dead simple.
P.S. Turn the level slider down to zero for the input channel of your interface that the Power Station is running to. That's if you are hearing dry signal as well as processed.
Excellent phrasing. God bless n rock on.
Very good thank you. I just got my PS-100 yesterday
I got a PS-2a not long after this video hit. I still have not powered the thing on. I only use it for IRs. I plan to use the power amp section of it one day. :P
One issue I am having is the tone of my amps running into DAW and IRs is not that different to using the Softube Marshall amp sims I have. The sims are near enough it does not feel worth it turning the amps on and putting wear and tear on them.
It is easier to get a nice tone using the amps though. Just hit them with a drive pedal and there's the tone. With amp sims I have to piss around with levels to make sure the amp sim is getting optimal signal levels and nothing is clipping etc. But once it's done I can just hit save.
P.S. I wish I could make my mind up what speaker sim or IRs I prefer. One day I think the Tony Platt ones that come with the Marshall amp sims are best, but the next day I like something like Celestion Speaker Room or Two Notes etc. I spend a lot of time messing with them instead of playing. The one I prefer might depend on which frequency my perpetual tinnitus is ringing at that day :D
Nice playing.
Thanks for the Logic IR loader tip! I'm struggling with getting a clean signal at a volume that I can record with. Do you have any videos that discuss setting levels?
Excellent explaination of the Power Station. Could you do a vid for the Power Load as this has a built-in analog cab/mic sim and digital cab sim that seems to be a better fit for home recording. Cheers.
We'll definitely have a series of Power Load videos in the coming months!
@@FryetteAmps Sounds great. I have the V2 without the I.R. function; I want to hear how the pros set it up. Cheers.
Hi Joe , A few questions (hope you see this),
1. Can i run Fuzz, Distortion, Boost pedals into the front of my amp while silent recording like this.
2. On some IRs (don't know if you did this, but you did explain about putting in afterwards), when playing into your computer using monitor speakers to hear what your playing quietly, can you choose a speaker cabinet to use on the computer program and hear what it sounds like ? (or is that what you did). I just got the ps-2a and want to start doing this fun stuff. Hope i didn't explain this to confusing...Thanks in advance. John
Hi, I'm looking at this as I'd like an alternative to lumping a big heavy amphead about. I use the hx effects unit, I assume I'd still need a preamp too for my gain? Thanks.
I have a PS, right now I'm using it as an amp to power a 1x12 cab that lives inside a little iso booth I made. There are mics in the booth, and although I get a nice tone I get no space on the guitars in my mixes, probably should've made my iso booth a little bigger. To get some room tone I started using IRs. I still use the PS to power the speaker and and use that to monitor my inputs bc there's no latency and I'll apply the IRs after the fact while mixing on a separate direct channel. I'm using synergy pres so no need to soak up power, but now I'm wondering if taking the line out of the PS into my interface instead of directly coming out of the synergy pre will make any difference. The PS is not my first Freyette (VHT) power amp. Anything I run through a Freyette power amp sounds better. So....in your opinion is there any benefit to using the line out of the PS instead of the synergy pre? I can always experiment but wondering if you have any thoughts/opinions. Thanks
Got my PS-2 this week. Just watching your intro piece (awesome btw) noticed you have the Fryette Powered off when recording the 100w head... Im just conscious that they said you need the PS switched on when using high power heads. Was this okay for a short amount of time or something and meant more when using for long periods?
Did you find the answer to this? I am looking to hook my dual rec. 100 watt head to the Ps-2 for silent recording and am not sure how to safely do that for silent recordng.
@@travis3656 I did indeed straight from Fyrette. It won't kill anything if you run it turned off for 5 mins or so but tbh its worth having on anyway with a powerful amp. It does get extremely hot.
You can keep the speaker one jack unplugged, have the unit on and even have the standby switch on and its fine. Its all for the fan so it has active cooling.
With lower power amps such as my JTM45 I don't even need to turn it on for silent recording... however make sure the speaker jack is unplugged or it'll go straight through as if bypassed!
I'm thinking about getting one and would use it to record my Marshall DI to my Mac but does the effects loop work when you use the line out? Thanks
No, but use the FX Send instead of the Line Out > effect > interface.
@@FryetteAmps great thanks 👍🏻
there is also Fryette Power Load IR which one is better including and why ?
Good video,but I was hoping for more explanation on the Power Station being used this way....I want to load my amp,send the line out into an AxeFXIII for FX and IR’s....You mentioned the PS doesn’t need to be powered on...is this true if I am using a 50 or 100 watt head,because the fan won’t be running....Do I put the PS in Standby or Operate mode to do this??...I use my PS100 to tame my amps,but sometimes I want to use it as purely a load box...
If you're running a 100w head up full-stop then I'd turn the PS on so the fan will run. Just keep it in bypass mode and you'll be in business!
I just landed on this video today and wanted to do the exact same thing as you: run the amp into the PS2 and then take the line out to a Fractal FM9 for FX and IRs, did you manage to do it? Have you tailored some Fractal preset to this end, and if so, would you mind sharing them? Cheers!
@@giorgiomusso8558 yeah,I run mine into my AxeFXIII for FX and IR’s…works great,and sounds great…I did have to get an isolation transformer box to get rid of a ground loop,but now it’s quiet as a mouse..
@@scottpeters4401 can you tell me the exact routing of the cables? I've heard different methods
@@giorgiomusso8558 I usually put the cab right after the amp…Then all my FX behind the cab..
Can the power station 2a support a 200W marshall major? thanks!
Hi Joe, I just acquired the Power Station 100 and also got the Power Load IR. I have three questions: 1.) If I am reading the manuals correctly I can hook the Power Load IR up with the Power Station via the unbalanced line out. Is this favorable or should I rather use the units separately depending on the task? 2.) If I run a high powered amp cranked I still get some bleeding to the speaker with the Power Stations Volume turned completely down - can I safely run the power station without connected cab in this high powered amp scenario? Would it be best to power the unit up in that case. 3.) If I load own IR‘s into the recommended folders of the Power Load IR, I cannot use them via the unit. When selecting the bank/preset it is just the DI amp signal coming through… I tried it with different IRs from Ownhammer and pretty long ones (500ms) exported from the GGD cab plugins… Any tipp why this isn’t working? Is it the length of the IRs? I couldn’t find any specifications regarding the IR format on the Fryette homepage or the manual… Sorry for all the questions, but thanks in advance. Christopher
1) Yes, that works. 2) Yes, you can. See Silent Mode example in manual. 3) You need to use 48K wave format. Contact support@fryette.com for instructions on converting formats.
Thank you very much for all your explanation, help me with something, I have a 100 watt Marshall, a 100 cabinet as well, a 100 power station and an Apollo interface like you show in your video, I want to use headphones, would it be okay to use my amplifier in silent mode? It's a lot of power and I don't know if it could hurt anything.
No problem!
thank you but I don't know if I didn't know how to explain myself well? Because your answer is very simple, when connecting everything with my Apollo interface, should I have the power station turned off or should I turn it on and leave it on bypass? Thank you@@FryetteAmps
@@eduardowilliardsierraneyra8922 Please contact support@fryette.com for more details.
@@FryetteAmps I sent them a message and they answered my questions and I am more than grateful, you have helped me a lot, thank you very much, just this question, is it possible to use Logic pro with the Apollo interface?
Joe uses Logic Pro in all of his videos.@@eduardowilliardsierraneyra8922
I wish the PS-100 had a built in IR Loader, than it would be the perfect tool
Can I run my ps 2a into my focusrite audio interface.
Ok thanks , so you ran your amp into the power station but didnt need to hook the power station up to a cab ? So you can use the power station as a load box and not need a cab ? Sorry i just ordered one and i didnt know that could be done i thought it had to be hooked to cab and use as an attenuator only . Am i correct that you can use it as load with no cab or am i missing somthing ? Either way great piece of gear steve is a genius! Thank you for any help
Correct. You can use it as a standalone load only. If you're really cranking your amp, it's a good idea to turn the PS power switch on so the fan operates. See "Silent Mode" in the manual. fryette.com/content/Power_Station_PS2A_Manual.pdf
Do you need to have power running to the power station to utilise the load box. Can I use the power station as a load box with out power is what I’m asking, like a passive load box? Thanks bro!
Yes, but it depends on how much power you are sinking into the load. If it's over 50W, you need to power the PS so the fan will keep the load cool.
Hello. I have two questions based on the silent recording feature in the manual:
- the power switch is circled in red as it remains active without the DC cord. What does it do?
- there is a red caution text saying the unit should be turned on and set with bypass/operate switched on « bypass » in case of using a high gain mode. Why is « bypass » important if there is no cab plugged?
Thanks
The power switch is circled to indicate that it needs to be powered when using high powered (not high gain) amps. This is necessary so the fan will operate.
Bypass puts the internal power amp on standby when not in use.
But wait... Can I have the PS directly to the audio interface (or, in my case, a mixer, then AI) but with absolutely no Cab plugged in the Fryette?
Yes! See the manual links in the description section to learn how.
Can I run my ps 2a into the strymon volante and then into my focusrite 3rd gen interface?
Yes.
One quick question: you said that the power station does not need to be on in order to get the output signal (bal or unbal) of the reactive load? So the reactive load is passive and does not require even the power cable to be connected the the Power station?
Thanks and cheers!
That's correct. Just keep in mind that if you're cranking a 100W amp, the heatsink assembly get's HOT. In that application, you're going to want to power it up so the fan operates.
@@FryetteAmps thx for the quick support! I'm glad I asked ;)
@@FryetteAmps One more question regarding the silent recording application:
- I connect my 100W Marhshall head to the power station and match the impedance.
- I switch on the power station but leave it in bypass, i.e. the power station works as a load only and its fan operates to get rid of the heat.
- I record from the XLR out of the power station which works fine
--> However, there is an acoustic rattling of both the Marshall head and more so within the Fryette Power station. The rattling is on the frequency of the actual guitar signal, i.e. I can hear the 100W signal shaking the whole setup which is somewhat not as silent as I hoped. Is that normal? Thanks a lot! Cheers
@@Bonehand 100 percent normal. Your amp has always done that. You just never heard it before because the speaker sound drowns it out. The PS is vibrating sympathetically as well. Just no speaker cone to project it out.
@@FryetteAmps Hi thanks again for the quick support. I am not sure about the PS's degree of vibration: when the 100W Head pushes the PS hard, it rattles heavily such that I need headphones to hear the recorded guitar properly. Listening to the recorded signal via speakers is not possible because the PS is too loud in that case. The case can also be solved by using the power reduction on the 100W Marshall head which still sounds fine, but it is not how I was planning to use it ;)
I.e. is the loud vibration of the PS normal or could that be a bad sample that I have?
Many thanks for Munich!
Hello ,my PS2A arrived today ! and ive read that its not necessary to "turn on" the PS-2A if i only want to do the silent recording with IRs . is that true ? and is there a difference between th XLR line out and the other line out ?
You can leave the PS-2A power of when using silent Mode with smaller amps. If you are cranking a 100W amp, please turn on the power switch so the fan will operate. The XLR Line Out is balanced and transformer isolated.
@@FryetteAmps im sorry , havin another question ... is it possible to plug in the cabinet (powerstation speaker out) and play in silent mode ? ..
at this point no speaker needs to ne connected fisically to the power station right?
To FRYETTE: Why is it when I run direct out from the power station I can not hear the effects I have in the power station's "Effects loop".....I was hoping to send everything from the line out (Effects and all) line out and into a IR (two notes cab m) speaker sim then into the DAW BUT WHERE ARE THE EFFECTS IN THE PS-100's "EFFECTS LOOP")????????
That’s just the way the Line Out works. To get effects into your DAW, you need a Y cable out of your last effect on which one end goes to FX return and the other to you DAW.
You can do the same thing without a Y cable by using a stereo effect.
Does my amp need to be connected to a load or a cab if it is running through the power station?
No. See silent mode in the manual. fryette.com/content/Power_Station_PS2A_Manual.pdf
@@FryetteAmps what if i had a speaker cable plugged into the PS (in silent mode) but not into my cab ? does this cause harm to my amp or PS?
@mesaboogie4 You could damage your amp that way. Not recommended!
@@FryetteAmps thanks !
Unfortunately I learned the hard way
Any reason why you choose the unbalanced line out?
Whichever is easiest to use for your particular rig.
People keep leaving out if you need a mic pre? My interface has no preamp