Toyota GT86 VS MINI F56 JCW TRACK BATTLE on Nürburgring Nordschleife
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Persuing my brother in the Mini JCW F56 +-250HP on standard tires in my 225HP GT86 on Advan AD08R tires. The torque on this 2.0 turbo Mini is quite crazy!
I hang out in the friendly car scene with tons of friends, have a much older R53 with just a 17% pulley reduction. Straight lines may not be their strongest point, but even my old mini never lost to any of the modded GT86s in a straight line. Driver of the GT86 is clearly a much more advanced driver.
The driver of the JCW Mini may be new to the track. I can tell the confidence level of the driver of the GT86 is quite high seeing how he shifts. However, there is no way a GT86 can hang with a JCW Mini.
Agree’d 👍
You are right, looks like the GT86 driver is very experienced compared to the flashing rear-braking lights of the JWC :)
Mini is faster on the straights, 86 is faster in the corners
@@localdrummerweb nope I've drove both this weekend, we've measured a faster corner speed and g force on the brz, both cars on same tires (this is probably due to the brz/86 lower center of gravity and 50/50 weight distribution). The only point the mini was superior while cornering was on exit due to its higher torque.
@@danielsoto_toronto For all but the most talented drivers, FWD cars are faster in the corners because of grip, and, of course, having more torque helps, too.
That MINI with better tyres and a suspension upgrade, could go much faster.
Anyway, thanks for the video. I really enjoyed it!!!! =)
And a better driver who doesn’t brake for no reason.
@@calvin3448 Yea, I used to lift a tire just going around the side streets around my house in my mini, much less on a racetrack, haha.
The balance of this car is just awesome. Nice drive! :)
The Mini driver makes me very nervous!
He is all over the road!
The GT86 driver knows what he is doing.
No way to really know what that Mini could have done.
Played out just as expected the mini has more power but the chassis on the 86 is definitely better. Well driven by both drivers
If the Mini wasn't breaking unnecessarily you wouldn't have stood a chance tbh.
Completely agree
Yep, I think that mini driver was Minnie Driver
This was supposed to be our warm-up lap. First lap in the morning. This privately owned brand new MINI was on stock 205 wide stretched runflat tires. Obviously not the best combination on the ring and already passed its performance half-way the track. Hence being a bit more careful. Today the car has clubsport suspension and 290bhp/420Nm. As soon as the tires are worn, they'll be replaced with better ones. It's quite a pocket-rocket. It will be interesting to see how it does now with all the go-fast stuff!
Agreed
I reckon you have the edge on the majority of the corners due to the FR layout. Yeah the straights matter but your car wasn't that far behind ....
Lot of love for Minis on these Nurbugring videos! Even when they're up against Porsches and Ferraris! Why is that???? I have a Mini JCW myself, but I've never considered it a fast car really, I mean it's pokey! But I wouldn't dream about pulling up to Nurbugring thinking I'm the dogs bollocks xD
You just don’t know how to handle her. You probably allow Fiesta STs to beat you at traffic lights. 🧐🤨
Yesterday i got my first Mini, not as fast as the JCW but a Cooper S with the JCW package
The driver of the Mini is probably less experienced or lacks confidence in his car. He was braking too much that the 86 was riding his @$$ all the way. Granted the Mini is not strong in the straights but, he could have lost the 86 in the curves. Great driving for both drivers and thanks for the upload.
The Mini has more power but a too soft suspension. The car sways and roll nicks on ground waves and in curves.
nothing coilovers, big pair ,and rear sway cant fix
You just gotta love the JCW, mad as a box of frogs....
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Nice driving. That mini cost you a ton of time. They were all over the track.
I think they’re friends, he waited for him later in the video
Nice drive! Did the JCW drive on the limit? It looks a bit like a bad car in every corner...
What did you change to get the extra 25hp from your engine? It isn´t a supercharger or a turbocharger, isn´t it?
Not a bad car, but on stock runflat tires so very limited in the corners. I have a dyno video on my channel which shows all the performance mods, check it out!
Did allready :-)
I use the Michelin PS4 (very good). But didn´t change anything to the engine or exhaust system... not yet :-)
I am considering the PS4 as the Yokohama's are coming to their end but I'm afraid the grip will not be up to the standard of the AD08R.
I am quite happy with them. But I can´t judge about the racetrack performance of the PS4 neither the AD08R...
As an alternative there are still the Super Sports and the (semi) slicks...
Awesome driving.
I think the 86 is a lot better taking on those corners, the f56... It's fast acceleration give you that. But prolly cuz it weighs less than the 86
Pushing power - cooper jcw win
Corner exit - 86gt win
Nice video but always the same story: in the ring pilot matters way more than the car, within some limits obviously
Darf ich fragen wie groß du bist? Mir gefällt der gt86/brz mega gut aber konnte noch nicht probe sitzen.bin 1,94
187,5 cm ;-) No problems. I have Recaro sportster CS seats.
Awsome ! Thanks for that quick answer.I just have to do an testdrive.And ive i fit inside.I gona buy one :-)
Any other mods on 86 other than tyres?
The mini is faster on straight lines
You dont say
And corners
Fast straight vs. Fast cornering
Like a initial D
stock brakes?
Turbo gt86 will dust off any turbo mini cooper any day. He wasnt "unnecessarily braking" mini cooper can barely take those turns. In a race, the 86 can easily cut through while the turbo cooper is braking to the apex. What ever boost you put in the mini cooper, the 86 can handle even more. Mini coopers cant take turns like the 86. If you wide body a mini cooper, the 86 can have a wider body. You get the point, nice warm up lap btw👌
MINI is a much faster car and no way a 86 can overtake it (unless it has lots of engine mods). The MINI driver may be new to the track. Standard tyres also have very poor performance on the track especially when tyre temperature getting high
Only reason this was any type of battle is cos the driver of the jcw was awful!!! The cooper s is much faster than a gt86, but props to the gt86 driver , cool vid😎
The better diver in the 86 the faster car the Mini.
JCW can go far more ahead of 86, this JCW driver is probably a newbie?
Your driving positon really is completely wrong
225 HP, how? Exhaust and intake? Ignition? Injection?
I refer you to my dyno video on my channel ;-)
V. Carijn checked it out, Thx. Planing to ditch my fairlady 370z away to get a gt86.. But I'm missing like 20-50 HP on the 4ugse. Curious weather or not your mods are legal I'm Germany.... I'll have to figure out. But car looks very Smooth, nothing compared to the 370 boat.. I testdrove the GT once and felt in love.
Right, Germany is not a bad country to be in in terms of modding your car. As long as there is a TUV sign on it which is found on most of the aftermarket performance parts anyway. You can even put a turbo/supercharger TUV legal in Germany giving the car 280+ (easy) hp. Sure as hell would be a little beast.
Good car but not good driver. That was the mini
I need to move to Germany... they let anyone and their brother just run the ring.. lol
Mini is down!
Mini has got 30Cv more than GT86 and it costs just 2000€ more
But has a lot more of torque
Il pilota della Mini frena in continuazione…si vede che è un dilettante…
La mini non è un auto sportiva, è una city car pompata.La gt86 è invece nata come sportiva, ha trazione posteriore, bilanciamento pesi, un differenziale meccanico autobloccante che manca alla mino avendolo solo elettronico.
Mini позор
Согласен, на мини лошарик едет какой-то
Shit driver in the Mini. Jeez