Most aquariums have a few detritus worms in them. In small numbers, they are beneficial. Fish will eat them. The shrimp might eat them too. They don't cause any harm and usually stay hidden in the substrate. To completely eliminate them would require poison, and using poison is a bad idea. (The cure may be worse than the worms.) The dirtier the substrate, the more worms you will have. So, to keep their numbers down, keep the tank as clean as you can.
@Brad B. Yeah, sorry about the sound on this one. It's one of my older videos, and I was still learning. Someday I'll upload a better version. . . So many fish, so little time. . .
Thank you lol ... Your videos have been endlessly helpful lol . ( I built the easy harvesting vessel and works perfectly ! ) Everyone with fry should def consider making that set up .
Ohhh...thanks alot I think this is a great help for my newly hatched betta fries. V-Eels could also be found in coconut vinegar -shoutout from Philippines here😉
Hello Philippines! I hope that all is well with you and your loved ones. Yes, these V-eels work great for Betta fry because both the eels and the fry, will gather at the surface of the water. . .
Wonderful, informative video with great camera work as well. The harvesting tip used in this video is by far the easiest and most efficient way to collect the vinegar eels that I've ever seen. I use to just pour my vinegar solution through a stainless steel coffee filter but your process works well. Thanks for sharing and as always do what you do if it works for you.
Very informative instruction how to grow snack colony for fry. I remember myself, when my first guppy fry was born , l run like crazy to pet shop for special newborn fry food. Unfortunately there was no such food, l went home and was grinding adult guppy food. Fry survived and thrived however they could bless me if l could get them such vinegar eels 🍽️
So well explained 🙏💪 The camera work is phenomenal!! Thanks for breaking down your process to culture these little guys, made it very easy to understand!! Thank you for sharing! 😁😎👍🥰
3:01 I actually have that very narrow vase myself, it was very successful. I had worms for years, the apple slice actually was preserved by the vinegar/cider solution providing some sustenance.
Wayback in my 20, when i eat my lunch. I like soo much coconut vinegar with fried fish. When i get the vinegar and put at in the small plate, a few minutes ived noticed in the side of the plate a lot of small worm giggling, so i was hestorical and call my mama to look whats inside but she told me that the little worms makes the vinegar soo sour and that is a good bacteria. So everytime i put the vinegar in a sauce playe ived always looking at them. And say hey little worms sorry i will eat you.
What if I cannot find filter floss easily? Is there something else I could use. I have Betta Fry that hatched on Monday and this is Thursday. The parents are in a separate tank. Please help me.
I used to use this method but found that it did not produce a large enough harvest for the ‘effort’ involved. I now you a totally different method that produces large amounts of eels with minimal effort. I use a plastic takeaway container with a tight fitting lid. Put a couple of air holes in the lid and rough up the insides of the container with some sandpaper. Prepare some porridge oats using 50:50 mix of cider vinegar and water. Spread a half inch layer of the porridge on the bottom of the container and when cool add your starter culture of eels. Lightly sprinkle a small amount of yeast on the surface and keep the culture in a warmish room. (I keep mine in the fish room). Initially the surface of the culture may develop a mould - this is harmless just stir it into the culture. After a few days this mould will stop forming. Once the culture starts producing you can use a small brush to collect the eels for the walls of the containers. Start a new culture using worms from your original culture when it is producing masses of worms. Eventually your existing culture will start to sour and smell and need renewal. Sorry if description was a little long-winded but this method is extremely productive and worth trying out 🙄👍
Hi Paul, I've saved your recipe and will be giving it a try. Thank you so much for sharing. Quick question is the takeaway container filled with the mix of vinegar and cider after you've spread the porridge on the bottom? Or is it more or less a moist culture with little standing liquid? 👍👍
@@PaulsFishroominteresting. I use a similar method to breed ‘banana worms’, a different species of nematodes that I feed to my baby guppies as well. Rather than cooking the oatmeal in vinegar, I just use water for the banana worms. After reading your comment, I looked up vinegar eels (which I also have cultures of) and am surprised to learn they can tolerate pH 1.6 all the way to 11! That’s incredible. Also means they don’t actually need to be in vinegar to survive (though I wonder if they breed faster in vinegar, or the vinegar provides a protection against other microbes). It is said that they like to eat the bacteria and yeast in unpasteurised vinegar, so I think you’re onto something by adding yeast to your oatmeal. I’m definitely gonna try that, thanks! Do you find your oatmeal extraction of the eels to change the pH of the aquarium water much?
@@Liliarthan I’ve never measured any pH change using this method as none of the culture medium is introduced to the tank. I just use a brush to collect the eels off the side of the culture container and swish the brush in the tank.
Darn! I missed this video! I would have purchased from your link if I'd seen it sooner. I love your channel so maybe I'll purchase anyway to have different types of cultures to have extra protection against crashing.
Woah this is so interesting!! I had no idea that regular vinegar had these properties. But how do the eels come about? I don’t quite understand. Does the vinegar just already have eggs in it or something? Also, can apples grow vinegar eels? One more question. Do they die quickly? Like, what would happen if you fed them to your fish and they didn’t eat them all- would it alter the water negatively? Sorry for so many questions. Great video!
The eels are a type of nematode, which is really just a type of worm. They come more from the apple than the vinegar itself. Exactly how it all starts I am not certain, but they come from the apple fermenting. They feed on the live bacteria and yeast cultures used to make the apple cider vinegar. Most vinegar ( in the U.S. ) is filtered and pasteurized ( heated ) so it kills the eels. If you buy unpasteurized vinegar that still contains " the mother " then the eels will be present.
As long as you are not adding the vinegar to the tank, it shouldn't affect the water quality. These eels can live for a week or two in a fish tank if they are not eaten
This was awesome, thank you. I was a little confused at first because only my right earpiece is working, but the quality of information on left speaker was worth being broadcast through the house. I should get new ear buds and some filter floss
Thank you for watching the video. Unfortunately, the fault is mine. Your ear buds are probably working just fine! There was a technical glitch, and the audio only plays on one side. Sorry for the confusion . . .
Yes, you can feed these to betta fry. In fact, they are a perfect food for bettas, because vinegar eels must swim to the surface for air where the betta fry tend to congregate ! Many people use them to feed betta fry.
Is there any other food you can feed vinegar eels? I don't have apples at the moment and would like to get some vinegar eels to feed my younger fish. Just want to know.
Apples are the only thing I know of. I would just get the eels and don't worry about the apple just yet. You may want to consider microworms too. ua-cam.com/video/vV6xYtrZS28/v-deo.html
@@TheDave333 thank you for responding to my question. Btw your channel's picture, is that a guppy? That is a great shot of your fish, and a funny one too ( no offense ).
Yes, because they are non-parasitic. In fact, they may appear in many products containing vinegar, like in ketchup for instance ! I have accidentally ingested many of them. Consume in moderation. LOL :-D
My daughter just ordered some with the exact photo from Amazon. Mahalos for the information since they will be here in a few days and i had no idea what they are for.
They do not just magically appear. Most vinegar ( in the U.S. ) is filtered and pasteurized ( heated ) so it kills the eels. If you buy unpasteurized vinegar that still contains " the mother " then the eels will be present. They come more from the apple than the vinegar itself. They feed on the live bacteria and yeast cultures used to make the vinegar.
If you can find raw / unprocessed vinegar, the worms will be in it. This vinegar has not been heated ( pasteurized ) or filtered. You are looking for vinegar that still contains " the Mother." Vinegar eels will also appear in a drink called " Kombucha" as long as it is unheated / filtered. Ketchup, and raw apple cider will also contain them. . . It may be easiest to find raw vinegar.
I've never heard of using plastic bottles, and I've never used them myself. So, I can't say for sure. My gut says plastic may work, but it would make it hard to see the culture to know if something was wrong. Sorry, I wish I knew for sure.
I remove some of the culture, and add water to the portion that I removed. I don't put water over the main culture. The portion that I removed will continue to produce worms for several days after the water has been added. But, eventually, it does stop thriving.
So I have some of these in a culture right now. So I need to feed the Baby German Blue Rams something first when they are first born before these Eels? Can I use Paramecium for the first few days? Then use these eels?
Yes, an infusoria culture would work, but I have raised GBRs before in green water with v-eels - microworms- and baby brine shrimp. I didn't bother with parameciums and they were just fine. Nonetheless, Infusoria cultures are pretty easy. If I was going that route, I would use Mystery snails to help generate the infusoria. Infusoria to V-eels then microworms and Baby Brines. Best of luck they are great fish . . . I hope to do a GBR video this summer / fall.
I've been feeding my betta fry infusoria for now but I heard infusoria don't last so I'm starting a vinegar eel culture using your method. Unfortunately I don't have a starter culture. I'm using a pure apple vinegar and green apple pieces. Will that work?
Unfortunately, that won't work. You will need to buy a special vinegar containing something called "the Mother," The right vinegar is raw, unfiltered, and unpasteurized. It is available at the larger grocery stores, or health food stores. :-D
You probably have what are known as detritus worms. They're harmless and fish will eat them. They can come in on live plants, driftwood, etc.. they can also be introduced with the fish water from the store. They can be removed / reduced by cleaning the substrate in your aquarium.
@@TheDave333 At first I thought they were some kind of larvae but they moved like eels. I haven't put anything new into the tank in a very long time. There were also white smears on the side of the glass, and what appeared to be gelatinous blobs on the bottom.:(
Hey Dave you have some very informative videos. I’m yet to try growing my own live food however I am having to look at it now as none of our local stores sell any live food (black worms, brine shrimp etc) I’m setting up my first attempt at brine shrimp and black worms over the coming weeks but I might try this tomorrow as I’m expecting some guppy fry in the next 2 weeks, how long would you say I should wait before harvesting some? And are these good for guppies?
Thank you for watching my videos. Live food is wonderful, especially if you breed fish. Consider mosquito larvae in the . Black worms are hard to culture yourself because they require daily water changes ! Hatching baby brine shrimp is pretty east, but a little labor intensive. The length of time before harvesting vinegar eels will depend on the size of the starter culture that you begin with. At 75-80 degrees with 1 cup of starter culture you should be ready to start harvesting within 2 weeks. And yes, they are good for baby guppies, another easy food to culture is microworms. Best of luck to you and your fish.
I stumbled across this because I need fry food for my peacock gudgeon project. I have a store that sells organic unfiltered apple cider vinegar with mother and I'm wondering if that will be good. If it is, would I still have to add apples?
Yes, that vinegar should do fine, I would still add a couple small pieces of apple to each culture bottle, but be sure the apple is free of nasty chemicals. I always peel my apple pieces to be sure there is no chemical residue in the culture. Peacock Gudgeons are on my to-do list !
This is a very clever way to do this. Some people place sliced apples in the culture. Is this a good idea and if so can other fruits be used; peaches for instance?
So these are nutritionally inadequate as a food staple? I have a few new peacock gudgeons and they don't seem interested in flake food so far. Any suggestions?
Correct- not good as a staple food source. You could try Grindal worms, white worms ( cultures available on line ) baby and / or adult brine shrimp. Mosquito larvae if it's warm where you live.
Sorry for the misunderstanding Vignesh, I didn't realize you were using the actor's name. I hear he is quite famous in India. My apologies for the mistake. Thank you for watching my video.
The cultures last for about a year, so every year in the spring I start new ones using a bit of the old culture to make fresh ones. If I use them a lot, I'll make new ones every six months. They're super easy to maintain, and I usually have four of them going at once.
I bought mine on line . . . Try aquabid or ebay. Many people sell them. You can also find them on you own. You will need to find vinegar containing something called " the mother ." It is contained in vinegar that has not been pasteurized ( heated ) or filtered. This is raw vinegar. Let raw vinegar sit around for a month with a couple chunks of apple in it and the worms ( nematodes) will grow in it naturally. They are also be sometimes found in a drink called Kombucha.
Hello, my culture has recently gotten a thick white film on the top of it. I'm worried that the eels may not have been able to break through it because I see less of them than before. What should I do?
Use some of the old culture to start a couple new ones. Take out some of the surviving V-eels from the old culture, and add them to a new mixture of 50 % apple juice and 50% apple cider vinegar. It's always a good idea to have more than one culture going.
Yes, too much of anything is not healthy, because no food is nutritionally perfect. So, the best diet provides a variety of food items to ensure that the fry are getting all of the nutrients that they need.
@@TheDave333 so since my betta frys are all newly hatched... What kind of food that i can use for them ? Btw i dont hv artemia 😅😅😅thanks for your advice
Betta fry are very tiny. So, you'll need very small food items. One of the smallest live foods is infusoria. These can be cultured using mystery snails and vegetable leaves, but it takes a while. ( search for instructions on google) Vinegar eels are also an ideal first food for betta fry, because both the bettas and the vinegar eels will gather at the surface. Newly hatched San Francisco brine shrimp will work after a few days as well. They too will gather at the surface ( they are attracted to light). There's also a packaged food called " first bites" made by Hikari that may work too. Best of luck.
Within 24 hours the vinegar eels will be in the freshwater above the vinegar solution. They are an IDEAL food for betta fry, because the "eels" will swim to the surface where the fry will be waiting for them ! It is the perfect food for betta fry ( along with brine shrimp ).
I had fish and they got nematodes by accident From a fresh water shrimp in my tank but I had to cure them because the nematodes were bursting out of there stomach.. So my question is why is it okay to feed them to fish
Thank you for watching my video. Nematodes are a type of worm, and there are many different types of nematodes. Some are parasitic and some are not. So, it really depends on the type of nematode. Vinegar eels happen to be a form of non-parasitic nematode that is harmless to fish. On the other hand, Camallanus worms are also a nematode, but they are very bad . . . I hope that this helps.
They occur naturally in fermenting fruits and fruit juices. They can be found in old bottles of ketchup . . . They can be found in something known as "the Mother."
it's a little more complicated than that the worms appear as a product of the fermentation of the apple and the production of vinegar. I am not sure that they are are in every apple, but they are in all raw / unprocessed vinegar. However, the worms will not harm you. In fact, there are tiny creatures in a lot of our foods, they are everywhere !! We have very small mites that live in our eye lashes !
These are not glass eels. Glass eels are in trouble, over-hunting is mostly to blame for the decline. And the less of something there is, the more it costs.
Yes, you can.. . You will need to find vinegar containing something called " the mother ." It is contained in vinegar that has not been pasteurized ( heated ) or filtered. This is raw vinegar. Let raw vinegar sit around for a month with a couple chunks of apple in it and the worms will grow. They are also found in a drink called Kombucha. I hope this helps.
I've never heard of beer worms, but they probably live off of the brewers yeast and grains that beer is made from. I don't believe vinegar will be good for them. I would take some of the worms and put them in a mixture using live active yeast.
I collected some beer worms and cultured in apple cider vinager , its really works , they are still alive , i ask one of researcher in fisheries management, he told me it will work ,bcs both of are same , its like growing Microworms in oats,bread or wheat flour .
For 1 guppy, how many eels will eat be able to eat in 1 feeding (not for a whole day)? I know you won't be able to count it actually but lets say its in spoons. 1 Tablespoon?
A tablespoon is an incredibly large number of eels! That would be way too much, but they do live a very long time in the tank. If I had to guess, I would say a couple hundred per day, if they didn't get bored with them. Which they probably would. That many might be bad for them in the long run. They need to eat other things too ! Like algae, fish flakes, etc. . . A balanced diet with lots of variety is the best way to go.
Are you interested in which camera I used to film this video ?
There is a link to the exact model in the video description above.
Yes, but if they just suddenly appeared, they are probably detritus worms, not vinegar eels. Vinegar eels don't just appear in aquariums.
Most aquariums have a few detritus worms in them. In small numbers, they are beneficial. Fish will eat them. The shrimp might eat them too. They don't cause any harm and usually stay hidden in the substrate. To completely eliminate them would require poison, and using poison is a bad idea. (The cure may be worse than the worms.)
The dirtier the substrate, the more worms you will have. So, to keep their numbers down, keep the tank as clean as you can.
Thank you. Now me and my left ear know how to culture vinegar eels as live feed.
Yeah, sorry about that ! :-D
Thank you lol I didnt know what was going on
Nice one 😂
Too funny haha
and here i was thinking that somethins wrong with my earphones
My left ear really enjoyed this video
Is it only playing on one side ?
lol
LoL mine too...
@@TheDave333 yes
@Brad B. Yeah, sorry about the sound on this one. It's one of my older videos, and I was still learning. Someday I'll upload a better version. . . So many fish, so little time. . .
These tiny guys have so much energy! I can’t imagine perpetually wriggling so intensely 😳 The filter floss harvest method is so smart!
Thank you. :-)
Thank you lol ... Your videos have been endlessly helpful lol . ( I built the easy harvesting vessel and works perfectly ! ) Everyone with fry should def consider making that set up .
I'm so glad! 😁
Those little “eels” are kinda cool I would keep them as a pet by themselves!
They are pretty cool, but a little small. :-D
Those fish look super happy!
Live food does make fish happy !
Ohhh...thanks alot I think this is a great help for my newly hatched betta fries. V-Eels could also be found in coconut vinegar -shoutout from Philippines here😉
Hello Philippines! I hope that all is well with you and your loved ones. Yes, these V-eels work great for Betta fry because both the eels and the fry, will gather at the surface of the water. . .
Wonderful, informative video with great camera work as well. The harvesting tip used in this video is by far the easiest and most efficient way to collect the vinegar eels that I've ever seen. I use to just pour my vinegar solution through a stainless steel coffee filter but your process works well. Thanks for sharing and as always do what you do if it works for you.
Thank you for watching the video- I love this harvest method as well.
Every fish breeders should watch this video
That's a nice thing to say. . . Thank you.
This is awesome!! Thank you so much for doing this video
You are so welcome! 😁
Your narration reminds me of talking to the Melnorme in a classic game called Star Control 2. Made the whole video more enjoyable :)
awesome . . . it's my professional narrator voice, I don't actually talk like that on a regular basis !!!
Very informative instruction how to grow snack colony for fry. I remember myself, when my first guppy fry was born , l run like crazy to pet shop for special newborn fry food. Unfortunately there was no such food, l went home and was grinding adult guppy food. Fry survived and thrived however they could bless me if l could get them such vinegar eels 🍽️
Vinegar eels are probably the easiest live food to make. Microworms are also very easy to grow, but crushed flake food works too. 🐟
Wow! Great work! Interesting, captivating, and educational!
Nice I'm glad you liked it, and thanks for subbing. :-)
"Got those pod bay doors open yet, HAL?"
That bad huh?? It gets better with each new video. :-)
@@TheDave333 Well, it's FAR better than most commentary I've heard on youtube!
My left ear enjoyed the video
Sorry about the audio. . I had no idea. I will never use audio/ narration again.
I thought i was the only one. I nearly broke my earphones wiggling it
Whoah! It gives me chills.. 🤗
Wait till you see my video on the Assassin snail! 🐌 🐌 🐌
So well explained 🙏💪 The camera work is phenomenal!! Thanks for breaking down your process to culture these little guys, made it very easy to understand!! Thank you for sharing! 😁😎👍🥰
You're very welcome! Thank you for watching the video, and taking the time to leave a comment. 🎥
3:01 I actually have that very narrow vase myself, it was very successful. I had worms for years, the apple slice actually was preserved by the vinegar/cider solution providing some sustenance.
Nice! The easiest live food ever!
Wayback in my 20, when i eat my lunch. I like soo much coconut vinegar with fried fish. When i get the vinegar and put at in the small plate, a few minutes ived noticed in the side of the plate a lot of small worm giggling, so i was hestorical and call my mama to look whats inside but she told me that the little worms makes the vinegar soo sour and that is a good bacteria. So everytime i put the vinegar in a sauce playe ived always looking at them. And say hey little worms sorry i will eat you.
Thanks for sharing. They do show up naturally in all sorts of fermenting foods.
Pretty sure that's not normal, but hey, if you don't mind the extra protein then you do you, I guess.
You deserve more sub to be honest
Thank you for your honesty. You can help by telling other people about this channel. 😊❤😊
What if I cannot find filter floss easily? Is there something else I could use. I have Betta Fry that hatched on Monday and this is Thursday. The parents are in a separate tank. Please help me.
any type of wadding or cottonwool will work. Those little cotton/wooly pads to remove makeup? fluff them up and you got filter floss....
Thanks Dave hope u are well.
I am well thank you. All the best, Dave.
I used to use this method but found that it did not produce a large enough harvest for the ‘effort’ involved. I now you a totally different method that produces large amounts of eels with minimal effort. I use a plastic takeaway container with a tight fitting lid. Put a couple of air holes in the lid and rough up the insides of the container with some sandpaper. Prepare some porridge oats using 50:50 mix of cider vinegar and water. Spread a half inch layer of the porridge on the bottom of the container and when cool add your starter culture of eels. Lightly sprinkle a small amount of yeast on the surface and keep the culture in a warmish room. (I keep mine in the fish room). Initially the surface of the culture may develop a mould - this is harmless just stir it into the culture. After a few days this mould will stop forming. Once the culture starts producing you can use a small brush to collect the eels for the walls of the containers. Start a new culture using worms from your original culture when it is producing masses of worms. Eventually your existing culture will start to sour and smell and need renewal. Sorry if description was a little long-winded but this method is extremely productive and worth trying out 🙄👍
Hi Paul, I've saved your recipe and will be giving it a try. Thank you so much for sharing. Quick question is the takeaway container filled with the mix of vinegar and cider after you've spread the porridge on the bottom? Or is it more or less a moist culture with little standing liquid? 👍👍
No, cook the porridge with the 50:50 mix of cider vinegar and water and when cool add the starter culture.
I see, thank you for the clarification.
@@PaulsFishroominteresting. I use a similar method to breed ‘banana worms’, a different species of nematodes that I feed to my baby guppies as well. Rather than cooking the oatmeal in vinegar, I just use water for the banana worms.
After reading your comment, I looked up vinegar eels (which I also have cultures of) and am surprised to learn they can tolerate pH 1.6 all the way to 11! That’s incredible. Also means they don’t actually need to be in vinegar to survive (though I wonder if they breed faster in vinegar, or the vinegar provides a protection against other microbes). It is said that they like to eat the bacteria and yeast in unpasteurised vinegar, so I think you’re onto something by adding yeast to your oatmeal. I’m definitely gonna try that, thanks!
Do you find your oatmeal extraction of the eels to change the pH of the aquarium water much?
@@Liliarthan I’ve never measured any pH change using this method as none of the culture medium is introduced to the tank. I just use a brush to collect the eels off the side of the culture container and swish the brush in the tank.
Darn! I missed this video! I would have purchased from your link if I'd seen it sooner. I love your channel so maybe I'll purchase anyway to have different types of cultures to have extra protection against crashing.
No worries! Thank you for your support and encouragement.
Interesting!
Yes, they are. Thanks for watching . . .
so brilliant
Thanks
wow.this is a great way to feed baby fish :D
As a person who drinks apple cider vinegar in my water I'm very freaked out right now DX
As long as the vinegar has been filtered and or pasteurized then there will be no worms. They are only present in raw vinegar.
I've drank apple cider before. It's yummy!
It really is!
Would they be self sustaining?
Yes, but you will will have to start a new culture, or two, every 6 - 12 months. I have one bottle that has been going for almost 2 years now !
Woah this is so interesting!! I had no idea that regular vinegar had these properties. But how do the eels come about? I don’t quite understand. Does the vinegar just already have eggs in it or something? Also, can apples grow vinegar eels? One more question. Do they die quickly? Like, what would happen if you fed them to your fish and they didn’t eat them all- would it alter the water negatively? Sorry for so many questions. Great video!
The eels are a type of nematode, which is really just a type of worm. They come more from the apple than the vinegar itself. Exactly how it all starts I am not certain, but they come from the apple fermenting. They feed on the live bacteria and yeast cultures used to make the apple cider vinegar. Most vinegar ( in the U.S. ) is filtered and pasteurized ( heated ) so it kills the eels. If you buy unpasteurized vinegar that still contains " the mother " then the eels will be present.
As long as you are not adding the vinegar to the tank, it shouldn't affect the water quality. These eels can live for a week or two in a fish tank if they are not eaten
This was awesome, thank you. I was a little confused at first because only my right earpiece is working, but the quality of information on left speaker was worth being broadcast through the house. I should get new ear buds and some filter floss
Thank you for watching the video. Unfortunately, the fault is mine. Your ear buds are probably working just fine! There was a technical glitch, and the audio only plays on one side. Sorry for the confusion . . .
Really great video
Glad you enjoyed it
I like watching the vinegar eels. They are neato. Thanks for showing. :-)
You are welcome- thanks for watching :-D
This was another great informational video thank you
You're welcome, my pleasure
I’ve just started the eels in organic apple cider vinegar and an equal part of tank water.
Nice, best of luck. Once you get them going, they last forever.
@@TheDave333 that’s great!
It's fine, I love it when my right ear rings as I listen to the only audio on my left.
Sorry, I had no idea the audio was only on one side when I uploaded it. My apologies.
My right ear feels so... Lonely...
Yeah, sorry about that. I really have to redo this video at some point.
:-)
Very useful!
Glad to hear that!
Great info, thanks!
You're very welcome, thanks for watching my videos and taking the time to leave comments. I really appreciate it. 😁😁😁
Great video tks
Glad you enjoyed it
:D thank you for posting this very helpful
Yes, you can feed these to betta fry. In fact, they are a perfect food for bettas, because vinegar eels must swim to the surface for air where the betta fry tend to congregate ! Many people use them to feed betta fry.
Is there any other food you can feed vinegar eels? I don't have apples at the moment and would like to get some vinegar eels to feed my younger fish. Just want to know.
Apples are the only thing I know of. I would just get the eels and don't worry about the apple just yet. You may want to consider microworms too. ua-cam.com/video/vV6xYtrZS28/v-deo.html
@@TheDave333 thank you for responding to my question. Btw your channel's picture, is that a guppy? That is a great shot of your fish, and a funny one too ( no offense ).
Thank you. It's a picture of a Dwarf Puffer Fish. I made a video about them that you might like. ua-cam.com/video/2jh4FPPhH14/v-deo.html
Are they safe for human consumption? Bc i heard that it is often found in the apple cider vinegar
Yes, because they are non-parasitic. In fact, they may appear in many products containing vinegar, like in ketchup for instance ! I have accidentally ingested many of them. Consume in moderation. LOL :-D
Wonderfull How they came out ? Did u add anything to d vineger?is it healthy food for fish?
Yes, it is a healthy food for fish. The culture solution is 50% apple juice and 50% apple cider vinegar.
My daughter just ordered some with the exact photo from Amazon. Mahalos for the information since they will be here in a few days and i had no idea what they are for.
Happy to help, and best of luck with the fish.
my left ear was very pleased
Yeah, sorry about that. I really regret that mishap !
Fantastic video! What kind of equipment are you using? Thanks.
A sony handicam. . .
Problems with audio also?
So explain. Are vinegar eel "eggs" present in all vingars? In all water? In all apples? Do they just magically appear?
They do not just magically appear. Most vinegar ( in the U.S. ) is filtered and pasteurized ( heated ) so it kills the eels. If you buy unpasteurized vinegar that still contains " the mother " then the eels will be present. They come more from the apple than the vinegar itself. They feed on the live bacteria and yeast cultures used to make the vinegar.
Thank you |Dave for sharing this video, I noticed these eels in the coconut vinegar
Thank you for watching it. They do appear in food products every so often ! Bettas love them.
what food products they appear? I need these since I have lots of bettas to feed
If you can find raw / unprocessed vinegar, the worms will be in it. This vinegar has not been heated ( pasteurized ) or filtered. You are looking for vinegar that still contains " the Mother." Vinegar eels will also appear in a drink called " Kombucha" as long as it is unheated / filtered. Ketchup, and raw apple cider will also contain them. . . It may be easiest to find raw vinegar.
Mosquito larvae is also perfect food for bettas ! Here is a video of my betta eating mosquito larvae. ua-cam.com/video/hU1GezJo79M/v-deo.html
I never knew such a thing existed... I need to go check what kind of apple cider vinegar I have.
Update: It's pasteurized. I'm okay now.
Watch that ketchup too, as well as kombucha, or anything else containing vinegar. . . . They're everywhere ! Yikes !
@@TheDave333 OK. I am pretty sure I can get raw kombucha on short notice.
Fascinating
Can vinegar eels be raised in a plastic bottle or does it have to be glass?
I've never heard of using plastic bottles, and I've never used them myself. So, I can't say for sure. My gut says plastic may work, but it would make it hard to see the culture to know if something was wrong. Sorry, I wish I knew for sure.
can they be ordered in freezing weather?
I don't really know, I've never done it. But, if they're sent with a heat pack, I think they'd be okay. . . .
Your videos are my fav! I had a question, I have a bunch of detritus worms, can I feed them to my betta fry? You're awesome. Thanks!
Thank you for the kind words. Yes, as long as the fry are large enough, it's fine to feed them detritus worms.
Will the culture still thrive with the water on top or do you need to remove it when done harvesting?
I remove some of the culture, and add water to the portion that I removed. I don't put water over the main culture. The portion that I removed will continue to produce worms for several days after the water has been added. But, eventually, it does stop thriving.
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Weird question but where do I find filter floss?
Any pet store should carry it.
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So I have some of these in a culture right now. So I need to feed the Baby German Blue Rams something first when they are first born before these Eels? Can I use Paramecium for the first few days? Then use these eels?
Yes, an infusoria culture would work, but I have raised GBRs before in green water with v-eels - microworms- and baby brine shrimp. I didn't bother with parameciums and they were just fine. Nonetheless, Infusoria cultures are pretty easy. If I was going that route, I would use Mystery snails to help generate the infusoria.
Infusoria to V-eels then microworms and Baby Brines. Best of luck they are great fish . . . I hope to do a GBR video this summer / fall.
I've been feeding my betta fry infusoria for now but I heard infusoria don't last so I'm starting a vinegar eel culture using your method. Unfortunately I don't have a starter culture. I'm using a pure apple vinegar and green apple pieces. Will that work?
Unfortunately, that won't work. You will need to buy a special vinegar containing something called "the Mother," The right vinegar is raw, unfiltered, and unpasteurized. It is available at the larger grocery stores, or health food stores. :-D
I'm pretty sure these are what are in my aquarium. I didn't put them there so where did they come from? How were they introduced?
You probably have what are known as detritus worms. They're harmless and fish will eat them. They can come in on live plants, driftwood, etc.. they can also be introduced with the fish water from the store. They can be removed / reduced by cleaning the substrate in your aquarium.
@@TheDave333 At first I thought they were some kind of larvae but they moved like eels. I haven't put anything new into the tank in a very long time. There were also white smears on the side of the glass, and what appeared to be gelatinous blobs on the bottom.:(
Healthy tanks support all sorts of different lifeforms, big and small. And some things just magically appear when the moment is right.
Hey Dave you have some very informative videos. I’m yet to try growing my own live food however I am having to look at it now as none of our local stores sell any live food (black worms, brine shrimp etc) I’m setting up my first attempt at brine shrimp and black worms over the coming weeks but I might try this tomorrow as I’m expecting some guppy fry in the next 2 weeks, how long would you say I should wait before harvesting some? And are these good for guppies?
Thank you for watching my videos. Live food is wonderful, especially if you breed fish. Consider mosquito larvae in the . Black worms are hard to culture yourself because they require daily water changes ! Hatching baby brine shrimp is pretty east, but a little labor intensive. The length of time before harvesting vinegar eels will depend on the size of the starter culture that you begin with. At 75-80 degrees with 1 cup of starter culture you should be ready to start harvesting within 2 weeks. And yes, they are good for baby guppies, another easy food to culture is microworms. Best of luck to you and your fish.
Could be a good project for the garage :)
Super easy culture to keep !
I have never tried it before, but I like how long a culture can remain viable and it looks like low maintenance. Thx for sharing :)
I stumbled across this because I need fry food for my peacock gudgeon project. I have a store that sells organic unfiltered apple cider vinegar with mother and I'm wondering if that will be good. If it is, would I still have to add apples?
Yes, that vinegar should do fine, I would still add a couple small pieces of apple to each culture bottle, but be sure the apple is free of nasty chemicals. I always peel my apple pieces to be sure there is no chemical residue in the culture. Peacock Gudgeons are on my to-do list !
This is a very clever way to do this. Some people place sliced apples in the culture. Is this a good idea and if so can other fruits be used; peaches for instance?
I've only used apples, I don't think other fruits would work.
Melon also works
Rip left ear! 😂 can i use any kind of vinegar sir? 😊
I've only made the cultures with apple cider vinegar. I'm not sure if other types will work. Sorry about the sound issue. My apologies. :-)
I watched two thirds of the video with left earphone, only to read this comment later 😭
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So these are nutritionally inadequate as a food staple? I have a few new peacock gudgeons and they don't seem interested in flake food so far. Any suggestions?
Correct- not good as a staple food source. You could try Grindal worms, white worms ( cultures available on line ) baby and / or adult brine shrimp. Mosquito larvae if it's warm where you live.
They can probably be converted to flakes or small carnivore pellets, but it may take some time for them to get really hungry.
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Is this possible with synthetic vinegar
I'm not sure. I've never even heard of synthetic vinegar. ?
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Sorry for the misunderstanding Vignesh, I didn't realize you were using the actor's name. I hear he is quite famous in India. My apologies for the mistake. Thank you for watching my video.
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How do you keep the culture going? Switch back and forth from two bottles?
The cultures last for about a year, so every year in the spring I start new ones using a bit of the old culture to make fresh ones. If I use them a lot, I'll make new ones every six months. They're super easy to maintain, and I usually have four of them going at once.
What if you accidentally eat those wringlers is it harmful?
I've swallowed quite a few, and I'm still here. :-)
They're harmless to humans if consumed. They will destroy the live bacteria in kombucha though, which is why they're considered pests.
It's just extra protein
They are microscopic in vinegars like apple cider
You eat them all the time. Just never knew it.
Where do you get the vinegar eels?
I bought mine on line . . . Try aquabid or ebay. Many people sell them. You can also find them on you own. You will need to find vinegar containing something called " the mother ." It is contained in vinegar that has not been pasteurized ( heated ) or filtered. This is raw vinegar. Let raw vinegar sit around for a month with a couple chunks of apple in it and the worms ( nematodes) will grow in it naturally. They are also be sometimes found in a drink called Kombucha.
Hello, my culture has recently gotten a thick white film on the top of it. I'm worried that the eels may not have been able to break through it because I see less of them than before. What should I do?
Use some of the old culture to start a couple new ones. Take out some of the surviving V-eels from the old culture, and add them to a new mixture of 50 % apple juice and 50% apple cider vinegar. It's always a good idea to have more than one culture going.
@@TheDave333 Okay, I'll try that. The whole culture is clouded now. Maybe I ended up putting too much apple in it...
You only need a tiny piece ( about the size of a postage stamp. I use a magnifying glass to check my cultures.
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@@TheDave333 Would I be able to take the slices out?
Yes, if you can get to them. I leave mine in until I use up the culture or make a new batch.
consuming too many microworms will harm the health of betta frys... Is vinegar eels same ?
Yes, too much of anything is not healthy, because no food is nutritionally perfect. So, the best diet provides a variety of food items to ensure that the fry are getting all of the nutrients that they need.
@@TheDave333 so since my betta frys are all newly hatched... What kind of food that i can use for them ? Btw i dont hv artemia 😅😅😅thanks for your advice
Betta fry are very tiny. So, you'll need very small food items. One of the smallest live foods is infusoria. These can be cultured using mystery snails and vegetable leaves, but it takes a while. ( search for instructions on google) Vinegar eels are also an ideal first food for betta fry, because both the bettas and the vinegar eels will gather at the surface. Newly hatched San Francisco brine shrimp will work after a few days as well. They too will gather at the surface ( they are attracted to light). There's also a packaged food called " first bites" made by Hikari that may work too. Best of luck.
How many days it will show the vinegar eel and how long it will last. Can I also feed them to my betta fry..
Within 24 hours the vinegar eels will be in the freshwater above the vinegar solution. They are an IDEAL food for betta fry, because the "eels" will swim to the surface where the fry will be waiting for them ! It is the perfect food for betta fry ( along with brine shrimp ).
I had fish and they got nematodes by accident From a fresh water shrimp in my tank but I had to cure them because the nematodes were bursting out of there stomach.. So my question is why is it okay to feed them to fish
Thank you for watching my video. Nematodes are a type of worm, and there are many different types of nematodes. Some are parasitic and some are not. So, it really depends on the type of nematode. Vinegar eels happen to be a form of non-parasitic nematode that is harmless to fish. On the other hand, Camallanus worms are also a nematode, but they are very bad . . . I hope that this helps.
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I understand that the eels go to the surface due to negative geotaxis rather than a need for oxygen.
Thanks for watching the video. There may be more than one reason, but there's little doubt they need to surface for oxygen as well.
Where do they came from?
They occur naturally in fermenting fruits and fruit juices. They can be found in old bottles of ketchup . . . They can be found in something known as "the Mother."
Where do you get these eels?
There are many people that sell starter cultures on line. I found mine on ebay.
They are so fast and goofy.
They really are! And my betta fish love them!
Can i ask how that worm get inside the vinegar? Is it came from air or it already sitting there?
They come from the materials used to make the vinegar such as apples.
The Dave so basically the apple that we eat has the egg worms? Is it okay if we eat it without knowing it
it's a little more complicated than that the worms appear as a product of the fermentation of the apple and the production of vinegar. I am not sure that they are are in every apple, but they are in all raw / unprocessed vinegar. However, the worms will not harm you. In fact, there are tiny creatures in a lot of our foods, they are everywhere !! We have very small mites that live in our eye lashes !
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excuse me, is this easier to culture than Daphnia magna? Thanks in advance.
Oh Yes ! Much easier !!!
I much prefer freshwater eels and moray eels.
Me too. . .
So how do I raise my pet vinegar eels?
Very carefully! Be the first in your neighborhood to have pet "eels."
Can I feed these to peacock gudgeons?
Yes
what's magnification power to show the eils?
I really don't know! It was quite a while ago - sorry .
Why baby glass eels so expensive and feed fish.
These are not glass eels. Glass eels are in trouble, over-hunting is mostly to blame for the decline. And the less of something there is, the more it costs.
@@TheDave333 thanks ！
there isn´t your voice in the video...
Unfortunately, the narration only come from one speaker. I need to re-make this video. :-)
Have you ever caught a white perch? They aren't a true perch, they are a type of bass.
I've never caught one. Have you? Do you fish?
@@TheDave333 I sure have. And yes I do fish, but I haven't fish very often this summer.
You should make videos . . . :-)
oh my.. It would be bad if my mother didn't know the vinegar is for culturing, and she accidentally use it for our food 😂😱
It wouldn't hurt you. Many foods containing vinegar actually has vinegar eels in it !
Because i needed to read that :|
The Dave woah.. I never know that 😮
I am here to help :-)
Can we feed anything instead of apple?
They don't actually eat the apple, but feed on the bacteria / microbes known as the mother" that created during the production of vinegar.
You could add a bit of yeast to the culture ever so often.
Sir can we create eel starter because i am unable to find it in india
Yes, you can.. . You will need to find vinegar containing something called " the mother ." It is contained in vinegar that has not been pasteurized ( heated ) or filtered. This is raw vinegar. Let raw vinegar sit around for a month with a couple chunks of apple in it and the worms will grow. They are also found in a drink called Kombucha. I hope this helps.
BRAGG's organic apple cider works :)
Hi i have beer worms , buying beers illegal to my parents , can i culture them with apple cider vinager?
Is vinager eels abd beer worms same ?
I've never heard of beer worms, but they probably live off of the brewers yeast and grains that beer is made from. I don't believe vinegar will be good for them. I would take some of the worms and put them in a mixture using live active yeast.
I collected some beer worms and cultured in apple cider vinager , its really works , they are still alive , i ask one of researcher in fisheries management, he told me it will work ,bcs both of are same , its like growing Microworms in oats,bread or wheat flour .
Nice. . .What are you going to do with them ?
The Dave
I am going to raise them and feed them to my guppy frys .
Have you seen my video on microworms yet ? If not you'll want to check that out. . . ua-cam.com/video/vV6xYtrZS28/v-deo.html
For 1 guppy, how many eels will eat be able to eat in 1 feeding (not for a whole day)?
I know you won't be able to count it actually but lets say its in spoons. 1 Tablespoon?
A tablespoon is an incredibly large number of eels! That would be way too much, but they do live a very long time in the tank. If I had to guess, I would say a couple hundred per day, if they didn't get bored with them. Which they probably would. That many might be bad for them in the long run. They need to eat other things too ! Like algae, fish flakes, etc. . . A balanced diet with lots of variety is the best way to go.
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Can they also eat like small pellets?
Like the ones they sell in pet shops, the tiny little balls
Guppies can eat pellets, yes, but flake food is better, In my opinion.