Only channel According to me which provides really realistic and practical view of topics which we don't get from mainstream media. Really enjoyed listening to the observation.
He joined the army as a short service commissioned officer and got selected for a permanent commission!! Great!! Why did he leave after becoming a Colonel?
@@gaswholemaybe because it was his choice. Everyone has a choice to choose his/her career. We are talking about 21st century skills, financial independence, retirement early, two career/three career in a life and so on. He chose his! We have nothing to say about this.
He joined the army as a short service commissioned officer and got selected for a permanent commission!! Great!! Why did he leave after becoming a Col?
Bro army is not about one personality it is a great organization with so much diversity so yup col rajveer is a hell of a soldier but he was only a small part of big organization have faith in india army . Policies will come and go but the army always stands stall 🗿🗿
So refreshing to hear a soldier speak about Agniveer and that too one with a balanced, well rounded and calm perspective on things. I hope some of those ruccus makers see this and feel some shame or at least a little remorse in their bones. Jai Hind. Greetings from Hyderabad.
Perhaps you must listen to Nitish Rajput to truly if this is a "balanced". This podcast makes Agneepath scheme sound gorgeous with words like "earn it, prove it, i slogged my ass... Etc"
@@stk6997 dude no one if forcing you to join agniveer , If you are talented enough go join as an Officer permanentely . Joining army isnt any other gov job where you work hard to get selected in and once in you are done growing . All these people crying they know that they arent talented enough to be permanently commissioned .
1.Short service commission was introduced because the army has a shortage of officers below the rank of colonel. This is not the case with other ranks 2.The armed forces employs more civilians than the size of the Pakistan army. Their pension bill is bigger burden than the soldiers (5 times more). There is no agniveer scheme for them Lets see how this scheme fares in 4 years time and hope for the best
@@Kai-ps6lh No one is crying about getting commissioned as an officer. The agniveer scheme isn't applicable to officers, its for the other ranks. The armed forces already run a short service commission scheme for officers because they are facing a shortage of officers.
That why no AGNIVEER will not count themselves as a soldier.... After 4 yr if they get re enrolled then on they get at solder rank and soldier pay scale
The harsh reality at the end of the day it's absolutely correct no one is forcing u to join in the Army, but definitely one thing no one chooses an uncertain career hence the quality people doesn't join they will choose some other. Quality less people who doesn't have anything else and those who r really passionate only joins........one thing is sure Quality will be compromise
Colonel speaks well but one thing he tells is that people should join army for passion. He might have forgotten that our country's unemployment is so bad that young youth of rural India who might not have the greatest of educational prowess are forced to choose it as a career option. It is the unfortunate truth of our country.
@@bidyanandakeisham5239 comparing country a of 90 mil with 1.5 bil is nothing but dumb 🙄 and I don't think Israelis think about unemployment after their mandatory service tenure..
@@bidyanandakeisham5239 They are not job insecure that's why. If that rule is removed there, the strength of army will reduce hence that rule is imposed. Now in india It feels like indian army is also thinking like corporate mafia they know that country has a lot of poor people who will still be compeled to apply for army because of no choice. Thank god the pay structure of the scheme got revised or else it was looking like they are treating soldiers as daily wage labourers or contractual unskilled labour who gets about 10-15k per month.
I knew he was a real man who goes to the field himself and not just bark orders once I heard him speak about Manipur and Assam. It is rare among officers to have such in depth knowledge and understanding of what they're dealing with. Respect to colonel sahab for his whole hearted efforts in NE region.
I think he misquoted the monthly in-hand salary. It is 21K in first year and 28k in 4th year. 11.7 lakh one time payment , non taxable. Just wanted to put this figures out there
Why are you focusing on that particular amount the nation pays to you, focus on the training and course and you will continue the other 11 or 12 years in the army,
@@ndakijourney first thing you have to make you English understanding better you think different word in your mind and type different in comments section
@@hementsharma7014 The guy is just putting the actual raw figures in front of people and there's nothing wrong with it. Of course, for someone who wants to join the army, Money shouldn't be an issue. Years ago when my family wanted me to join the army telling me all the benefits it had, I didn't because of the same reasons. If I don't feel passionate about it, money and other things shouldn't be a factor. The same logic applies for all the civil services jobs as well. You should be passionate to serve the nation if you want to be an IAS not because it will get you a lot of respect. Unfortunately, most people in India don't think like that and that's a problem. But letting people know the actual figures also helps in filtering out some people who're not meant to be in the army. If someone wants to not join because 21k is way less than 47k, that's good for the army, that person wouldn't have survived anyways in the army. It's a win-win, there's nothing wrong with statistics.
Hey buddy... You haven't even seen them...u don't even know how fuckin hard they work..u just know what media is showing and what is classified...bro just don't feel this..but special forces are built different.. inspiration>>>budget
@@84bitmercyop58 bro I love Indian army ,, that's y I am telling the truth in kargil war soldier die because of weak helmet I want improvement ,,, tu to bhai modi bahkt ho lagta hai
Sir with due respect What about those aspirants who had cleared their physical exam and medical and waiting for their CEE and results of Army and AIR force for more than a year. They worked hard they were motivated enough. What's their fault.
1st of all you have to understand that army is not there to give job to anyone. Army is there to defend the country. So your hard work has nothing to do with country defence. 2nd thing, it's unfortunate and unlucky that those aspirants caught in the middle of corona. A person can easily go fit to unfit on those 16 to 30 months. So just for your hard work and to give you job, army can't recruit unfit person. It's not some SSC , railway and other organisations where only fit brain required. In army fitness is as important as brain.
@@AkashSingh-nf5ey And let me warn you money and other facilities doesn't matter for any aspirant. It is his love for uniform and passion to serve country that make him motivated to join armed forces.
@@ShubhamSharma-ye8we when did I say that aspirants got COVID. Due to COVID army couldn't not have the joining but after COVID period its very much possible that thise aspirants might have gone fit to unfit in those period of time.
@@ShubhamSharma-ye8we Lie to someone else that facilitates and money doesn't matter for any aspirants. I am not coming from other planets. I come from a small village in bihar. Where students go through all sort of things. So i know that what is motivation for the aspirants. And money and job guarantee is one of the motivation factors. So kindly don't lie like this.
Ask any EX service man specially Jawans and JCO's they know the Ground reality . If (retired 5,7 years ago )..they all are against . at present army officers are supporting this scheme to safeguard their promotion , if they denies they will not get the recommendation.
@@rajputashutosh1 bhai retirement ke bad boht nokriya hoti hai bank, railway, securityguard in govt office etc or agar tumre father fit hai toh woh bapis DSC mai bhi ja skte hai as reserve personal. Desh ko army mai size ki nhi capability ki zrurat hai size toh russia ka bhi boht tha abhi dikh hi rha hai woh kaisa ja rha hai
@@rajputashutosh1 bhai papa ki age bhi btado Dusra agniveer ko other services mei bhi reservation hai along with nearly 20 lakh rupees and courses which they will study while there 4 years of service
I mean I heard about this agniveer policy and people were going crazy about this ,and I wanted to know about this policy and now I got an actual explanation of this policy.. now I can definitely say that this is the best policy for armed forces .. I mean people want guarantee for their whole life in the service where the job is like u don’t know that u will be alive next minute
@@jaideepraj1965 उनके हजारों स्टेटमेंट है आर्मी के बारे में, कौन सा वाक्य देखूं, किस मंच से दिया था, क्या बोला था? कब बोला था? on duty दिया था या ऑफ ड्यूटी?
U r comparing yourself with Agniveer 😂😂with 90 days holidays and more than 1.20 lakh per month! And 14 years of service.... Oops 😶 Agniveer only get 30 days leave and 21 k per month😶no no both are same baba👍😂
Despite passing a UPSC entrance to direct officer rank and training in OTA he is still keeping himself in that post. It should be respected but alas you are brainrot whenever you listen agniveer
@@JatinNegi-y8w he isn't comparing. How can a Major compare with a sepoy rank scheme. It's entirely different. They get more than 2.5 L per month. A regular sepoy rank gets 50-65k
Throughout the agniveer scheme after 12 years we have the best of best soldiers in the indian army who are truly passionate about army 🪖 they serve the nation to every single breath. I'm very passionate about the army , training, ammunition but sadly due to not proper guidance i m not able to join the army 🪖 this is the worst things ever happened to me, but I will definitely guide my child to go army, navy or airforce whatever he or she choose that time
If many of your friends are criticising the scheme then in that case they shouldn't have joined the army. Kyunki bhai jab aapko aisa lg raha ki isme aapke kayi haq maare jaa rhe hain aur jo cheez ek jawaan ko chahiye hoti hain woh nhi mill rhi so why have they joined army,...isse yeh pta lgta hai ki all they wanted is to get a permanent job in the army with a handsome amount of remuneration they get while serving the nation and along with that to enjoy a lavishing life. Aur sarkaar pehle keh chuki hai ki yeh koi fixed scheme nhi hai isme bhi amendments kiye jaaenge jb zaroorat hogi
@@Prakhar_Mishrajust to update you my a lot of friends are in army. One of my friend is taking retirement this year just bcz of political interventions and this poor agniveer yojna. Also updating you my chacha is 1971 war veteran and he also criticising this yojna. Yes all andhbhaks and chamchas are praising it bcz they never gonna join army as agniveer.
@@ankitchandra3704 See, it's not about bjp or any other political BS. This scheme's main motive was to develop a sense of nationality amongst the citizens of our country, which is totally void in most cases. The education system fails to deliver here, as the graduates of the Agniveer Yojna won't have adequate skills to compete in the civil market. We should take this scheme positively, and the required amendments should be made accordingly. And first of all, the person applying for this scheme will jolly well know the repercussions that will follow. The person applying for this role will be joining the military out of patriotism and not for the benefits of salary and pension. And we should learn something from Korea and Israel, where both the opposition and the government support initiatives that deal with a nation's security and development rather than forcefully criticising everything.
Sir ka LeveL jo h...woh toh koi touch nhn kr payga...damn sure Proud to be a an indian Thank you sir for teaching us... How become positive in lifeS upSdown situation🙏😇
What Colonel Rajeev fails to acknowledge is that men join professions with risk to life and limb, is because men have the burden of performance. Earning money and attaining some kind of status is mandatory for all men. Also, a component of military life is constant training, which agniveers will not do, in 4 years of service. Also, when people know that they will be out of a job in 4 years, they will not be motivated to perform at the same level. Regimentation was introduced by the British in the army for a specific purpose. When men know that they are going to serve and perform with men in the same social and work environment with other men, their behaviour changes dramatically. Agniveer is a basically flawed scheme, which is bound to have bad consequences.
🙂🙂 different person have different opinion about aganiveer😊 this was more satisfied my 3 friends selected for it and they also have the same opinion about💯
He is getting pension and all other post retirement benefits and his bank balance is quiet good than that of an agniveer on retirement after 4 yrs....that's why he is giving lecture on Ethics....i would suggest him to check his moral compass and i would also advise the podcaster to invite some people from grassroot level ( the PBOR ranks in army) also, and Not always the golden spoon feeders.
@@pruthvimeka3259 Abe life insurance Marne ke baad Nominee ko milta he... retire hone ke baad life insurance ka Paisa kaha milta he be? 😂😂..aur Marne ke baad insurance 44 lacs ka he ...pata nhi he toh bhok mat
Let me tell you life insurance marne k badd claim hota h👍 aur ap syad 50 lakh ka loan milra h uski batt krae ho... Okiee me apko bta du jo ap loan lete ho vo liability hoti h! (Liability=bojh) Yup toh ap 50 lakh ka loan lere ho bina kissi source of income k toh vo bojh he hoga and agr apko 4 sal badd 10 lakh rupe jada lgre honge jo Agniveer ko retirement me milega toh me apko bta du 50% of 10lakh Agniveer khud he deta h apko govt total 4 sal badd apne se 5 lakh rupe deti h bs khtm....👍@@pruthvimeka3259
@@ullas9999 abe akal ke gobar bhakat. Ab jo power me he usi ko bolenge na??? Mobile use karte ho na re, kyu karta hai be. Teri dadu ne to nahi kiya tha!!
Only an officer can deny the opinion "why this is not for officers " . The biggest problem with agniveer was neither pension nor anything but the problem is that they just outrightly cancelled previous exams & recruitments for which they were assuring so many young candidates for more than one year that their results will come. Let me tell everyone that in many of these recruitments every test was done only final merit list was to be released. Now just imagine how painful it would be for those candidates who were waiting for their call letter and results and they were promised by even Rajnath singh that their results will come. But as always there was a surprise for them from our respected PM . The biggest misfortune is that now nobody even talking about that point. Even highcourt is disappointing us
@@akshitmangurung it was 5 years term earlier but now it is 10 years na & I didn't even talk about pension and all , the main issue is why previous recruitment were cancelled
@@akshitmangurung bro I don't know army requires how many or not but if you had promised them that they'll be recruited & you made them to wait for more than 1 year and suddenly one day you come & say no your recruitment is cancelled. Tell me how will you feel after that
whenever I hear his voice and the way he talks with full of confidence, courage. I want to be daredevil like him. Ya and it's true that we do not have rights to interfere in army decisions. Please don't get brainwashed by UA-cam channels and politicians. Salute you colonel rajeev sir
We have been waiting for 1 year our airmen joining letter but due to agniveer scheme they cancelled all previous recruitment so none one talk of that every one is talk of agniveer 😥
iam thinking same.. he knows it all despite that he won't say a word on it . hypocrisy just need followers 👎👎👎 not everyone is like major jacob and major sushant
In the Short service commission there is no pension ...second he is an officer by exam not by bribe .... He has earned officer badge if he get pension also then also no problem ..and they should get after clearing such an hard interview(ssb) and training but yeah SSC officers don't get pension
*Sorry to interrupt you sir but short service commissioned officer has an option to continue after completing his mandatory time period but in agneveer scheme only 25% of the jawans can continue after their 4yrs which is incomparable to OTA (SSC) even though 100% of jawans will be willing to continue still they could not*
Bro he told correct agniveer should be joined by someone who has passion for army.I remember one of my Collegemate rejected corporate package cuz they had passion.its like SSB u try and then u get ejected. Ex. If A person is excited he should enroll four years server the nation and if by chance merit is not given he will be given 12 class certificate as well as amount earned.With this money he can continue to his education or he may get other jobs. Thing is passion.
Not everyone get option to continue their service in short service commission ...very few got chance to continue their service and most of them get retire ...1 out of 1000 got permanent commission
Sir you used to get 8000 salary but you didn't mentioned that jawan used to get only 400 rupees. Your savings were 500 rupees. Officers culture in deep rooted in defense but poor jawan can't say a word against it. I've myself seen my friend's husband roaming like servant with his commander. His job is not to take commander's family to hospital, shopping, fetch his children from bus stop, cut grasses of his garden but he is forced to do all this.
to aap kya chahte ho officers aur soldiers ki salary same ho jaaye ?? and stop telling all this nonsense. kisko pagal bana rahe ho?? my father is serving in Indian Navy as a MCPO(II) no doubt sometimes some officers ask help from juniors to drop his family to hospital or railway station but one can directly say no to them if he is not comfortable. jo chamchagiri karte hai officers ki promotion ke liye unhi ko ye kaam de diye jaate hai aur wo kar bhi lete hai so stop blaming Indian Military or any of its personnel.
@@Bharat-pp4eechup kar ..... Tum officer log sochte ho army tumhare baap ki h ...... Soldier tumahare gulam h ....... Isliye jab tum civil life m ate ho to tumko pta chalta h hakikat ka
@@amitrawat3795 Here is the difference kyun officers 7 lakh candidates mein se sirf kuch 100 hi ban paate hai .....apni language se hi dekh lo. Pehle jo likha hai wo padho ache se aur logic dhundke fir likho jo likhna hai . aur rahi baat officer aur soldier ki mere dada army mein soldier the retd. naib subedar aur mere papa soldier hai navy mein MCPO(II) aur main NDA cadet hu airforce mein, maine dono life dekhi hai ki kis tarah ka system hai fauj mein. aur army humare baap ki nahi hai, We soldiers and officers ourselves are the Indian Army.
Sati pratha was a thing but not a wide spread thing. But a rare event. Not even 0.0001% hindu widows have committed sati in old times. Sometimes women were willing to do it. Sometimes unwilling. But it was not a basic hindu ritual. Neither it is core philosophy of Hinduism. So people should stop sati pratha banter to make hindus sound like evil occult organization.
@@anandpatel1896 yeah bro these Britishers made this thing so hyped that we think Hinduism is bad religion but the thing is sati was not forcefully but more self decision like u can see what jauhar was and the Britisher used to do these things in Europe . Plzz check out the witch hunting in Europe
@@anandpatel1896 a pratha is something that is followed by everyone, if there is a one in a million cases of something then you can not call it a pratha, your point was correct but you made a little mistake, so I thought I would correct you👍
@Pragnesh Kumar bete inhone khud se kiya tha naki forcefully. Mai tumhe blame nhi krunga ye sb sochne ke liye kyuki tumlog ki social engineering Hui h Britishers dwara taki tum ye sab socho . Jbki ye Europe mai aurton ko jalana aam baat thi . Search about witch hunting
CDS bipen rawat sir had already told in past that with clear warning that youths should not compare civilian government jobs with Indian army services. Sir were also giving railway jobs as example.
Correction . "Sati" was not a pratha (tradition). "Sati" was a few sparse incidences in the huge ancient Bharat. Some of these incidences were voluntary will of the woman to burn herself in the fire. Some people have just imbibed the communist propoganda in their mind.
@Pragnesh Kumar and the might have committed but definitely they were not forced to do so I will request you to watch Abhijit chavda sir video on it for more clarification
Yup yup yup because as everyone knows that Abhijit Chavda never distorts or cherry picks facts to suit his own narrative .... WHAT A JOKE . PLEASE STOP LIVING IN AN ECHO CHAMBER
I beleive as sir rightly said it is a volunteer force one should not complain about it proceduring and should abide by whatever is put infront of you .If you are passionate for it you won't expect much from it and defence forces is such organisation that knows to take care of their men very nicely 😍
@@shashankbisht7204 if you want to think about your family then don't join Indian Armed Forces. Indian Armed Forces is for those who are bravest of braves. aur rahi baat unki family ki Indian Army se jyada unka khayal koi nahi rakhta tum to do din bhi shahido ko yaad nahi rakhte.
Couldn't agree less with Col Rajeev sir on agnipath. I don't see how he can compare it with SSC where one get 10-14 years of service or Permanent Commission like Col himself.
But sir with due respect many army veterans are still against of Agniveer. Whenever I hear their logic like only 6 months in so short of army training,this will cut down the morals of this institution, it is dangerous for borders etc. feel really scared.
These are those army veterans who never went to war but still got pensions and want their sons also to do the same.. get paid for not doing a job they were built, created, recruited for
Time demands changes in the doctrine of how the forces should work we have to do change accordingly. Firstly we have to think we have a limited budget we have to use that according to that. Modern battlefield is changing very rapidly and we need a lean and lethal force for the future war that we would fight. With due respect he is saying the right thing and I fully support it.
@@bharathratnani9532 Really? You have seen them sitting in office or ac cabins all their career? Maj Gen GD Bakshi(71, 99, Kashmir insurgency), Major Avinash Sahani(North-East insurgency), Marco Praveen Teotia(26/11), Major Samar Toor(Siachen, J&K militancy and South Sudan UN).
Whatever you said it is a balanced opinion but not fair enough. If everybody of this country feels proud about army than everybody has the right to ask question about the army policies logically. Agniveer is not a bad policy but government should add more advantages for those who will get retirement. They should get a degree at least. Due to inflation and low demand in corporates highly qualified persons are also not getting jobs in corporates.
Well explained. My only problem is why MLA MPA will get lifelong pension after serving only 5 years of their life that too which kind of service most of them do is not unknown to the people ??
@@jatingupta3443 exactly. Major war happens very rarely. And having nuclear weapons prevent it more. Most of the army personnel get retired without fighting any major war. Their pension gets more budget. We have to cut down the budget and should focus on technology. We are the 4th largest defence in the world bcz of number but are we really that strong with lacking of advance technology.
@@jatingupta3443 ok great idea!! In that case why has the government NOT reduced the numbers of civilian employees of the armed forces whose pensions are a much bigger burden? Why should the army reduce the number of soldiers who fight without reducing the civilians who do not fight?
Sir , we r not opposing agniveer , I have clear All physical +medical test in feb 2021 for Soldier (tech. Army) when i was 22 year hold . I was preparing for exam for one and half year. Dont u think this is totally injustice to aspirant like me. And now i am already 23year old not even eligible for agniveer😭. My grandfather , father was also army personnel, i wish to be the third generation but 😭. Hope Officer likes you or Ranvir bhai understand.😭
@@Mr.notBeastt what about is 1 year wasted...he was already into the selection process from last 1 year....why his whole selection process was cancelled.....I m also a airforce Aspirants i had cleared all stages and waiting for joining letters....but after announcement of agniverr they cancelled my joining
1.Officers have option of permanent entry which jawans dont have. 2. Every soldier is not 8th class pass..There is 10th class entry for GD,12th Class with Physics, chemistry, Math And with 50% marks for Technical, 12th Class pass for Clerk, 12th + PCB for Nursing assistant 3. Short Service Officers get Exserviceman Status which Agniveer will not get because they serve for 5 year minimum not 4 years. like agniveer.. 4. 8000 rupees 25-30 years back was a good amount that time a sepoy used to get 800 rupees so dont compare todays salary with salary of 25 years back 5. Short Service officers getting out is much smaller than Agniveers who came back after 4 years.
Hello Ranveer, please bring Mr. Madhur Sharma, brother of Late Major Mohit Sharma(SM, Ashok Chakra). People know about Major Mohit but a podcast about him would be crazy. A lot people would want it. Pleeease.
It was a half baked scheme . The "lateral rec." stuff was shoehorned in after they received massive backlash . They could not even facilitate "LATERAL RECRUITMENT" of short service commission officers into the paramilitary even though it was recommended by a cabinet commission ..... them talking about lateral recruitment avenues for jawans is a big joke .
It's unfortunate that most of our MPs and MLAs misuse their position, but in reality, they are doing a very important job. Of course, cutting their pensions will help save some money, but that doesn't mean we continue hiring more and more soldiers. We don't need those many. What we need is a limited number of soldiers with advanced weaponry, and that's not possible unless we cut down on the size.
He is clearly telling a lie because for officers currently their salary started from 1 lacks + and goes upto 3/4 lack per month. And for soldiers strted from 30/33k per month and goes upto hardly 80/90k after serving their nation for 20/22 year’s. And the facilities and everything is far better for officers than jawans.
ranvir bhaiya pls talk about this conversation in your Hindi podcast too becuz most of the people who joins Indian army on agnipath scheme don't know English language and they are getting brainwashed with false information or interpretation or propoganda
5:31 it will reduce after 2-3 years just see. Since the people who have already invested their time into preparing have no other choice. Who's gonna recruit the other 75% people? Amount of officers leaving after short service is not even more than a thousand. Since they are graduates have a good background they would get some other jobs. and there would be thousands of agniveer who are jobless after 4 years. They will have no degree in their hand, even if they do they would struggle so much finding new jobs.
@@AmitJha-ow2sr beta ye koi tere gaon ki mnrega scheme nhi h jo tuje job guarantee degi ...armed forces are a highly sensitive responsibility which need passion driven youth not a job driven kid like u 😁
Why are Gorkhas not joining the Indian Army after the Agniveer scheme was launched? Emotional motivational is alright, but a greater percentage of people in any country join forces as a career option, and no one likes to have a career uncertainty. Another blunder by the government is delaying joining of personnels due to their incompetent delays and waiting qualifying ages of soldiers.
Due respect to the personal opinions but the very fact that people and officers working in the army are against it. It is better to not blame but address the problems and the concerns of those who are having problems.
He is comparing his SSC to that of an ordinary soldier. Considering the amenities the officers get is far better than a soldier. Their payments is to the lesser extent you could imagine when they start. This is just purest form of bootlicking. 😂
First of all Army isn't a money making platform Post Army there are many options and perks that are given.. Commenting for sake of commenting mate is not fair.
An Agniveer would get a total of 23 lakh in his 4 years of service and an SSC officer gets 27 lakh for the first 4 year of his service. So it is very much opt to compare them both. And it's fine if u don't agree with his opinion but respect his title.
@@gagann5399 first and foremost salary and benefits aren't the perks India soldiers enroll atleast as Officer level. More than salary Army teaches them how to live a life. Those who have served or serving in Army will tell them even if Agniveer once the course is over if they are eligible will be full time enrolled and things will change for better If modifications are needed to the rule. Let's not go with the politicians criticise a policy until few years and batches are done. If it's not a good scheme Army it self will reject it in future.
Sorry to say sir my whole family serving army and no one supporting this decision... specially persons who join Army as a constable and go up to JCO amd captian have more experience and knowledge than you ..they are not supporting this scheme...in 3-4 years you do not become complete soldier for war....you should feel ashamed to say that they have corporate jobs ...after serving indian army ..they had to work as security guard... every boy who join Army as a soldier... belongs to poor families or from Villages ...in today's time no one gives you job with 10,12 qualification.Sab ko pta hai india me next level unemployment hai ..aur jo bache bass army ke liye jij rhe the unke pass ab kohi option nhi hai ..har jagha exploit kiya jaa rha hai
There are no free lunches. Army is not your personal security policy. Besides, this country cannot afford life pensions of army personnel. Already done away with for central and many state govt employees. Today most of the security budget is spent on salaries and pensions, can't find this in any other country. Time to come to terms with the economic reality
Agar nhi pta kuch to zeher bhi mat fenko.. apne jaise 10 aur ka dimaag mat khraab kro.. If you are open to debate on this, let me know your any ID and I will proove you wrong in all aspects of your knowledge about it. I myself belong to an army family and none in the family is opposing it. Ye jo bekwoof waali baat likhi hai tumne ye tumhe deshbhakt nhi desh ki naukri krne k liye bol rhi hai.. In army, you are not pain for your job, you are paid for your devotion towards the nation.
@@vaibhavgupta7076 devotion ko ghar walo ko khaana nhi milta ? Ye baatin unke liye achi hai jinke baap dada piche chhod gye ho ....ek sepoy jaane wala ladka jiske upar responsibility hoti hai uske maa baap ki ane wale time pe wife ki bacho ki ..ghar be nhi bana hota.. uska dil bass desh bhakti se nhi brta hai. Dil me bazbaa jarur hota hai aise he Army ki tyaari nhi ho jaati ...lekin sirf desh bhakti se ghar nhi chle ga ..humare yaha pe bacho ne kabhi college dekha he nhi ..bahut mushkil se schooling hue hai. Uske baad agar tum use bolo ki hum tumhe ghar bej denge. Dusri job dundte rehna ..toh uske liye problem bann jaye gi ....humare yaha unemployment itni hai skills nhi hai isliye 4 saal ke liye be line lagi hai. Otherwise sabko pta hai ki 4 saal toh ek acha soldier banne me lag jaate hai. Desh ko kya serve kre ga wo .. practically dekho. Kitaabo se nhi ..jo pad ke bade officer lage hote hai unko sirf gyan dena hai ..ek -do nokar apni wife ko ..ek -do bacho ke liye chahiye..aur parties krni hai yahi toh center me trend hai aur kya. Unko bass nokar ki kammi nhi honi chahiye desh ko acha soldier mile ya na mile ...30 to36 ka soldiers sabse jada experienced aur efficient hota hai. Ye 22-23 wale bichare ek posting ke baad ghar aa jaye ge.
@@sachinsharma3999 abhi vo kya kr rhe hai?? Abhi limited seats hai, army mein nhi hua to vo kya krenge?? Abhi ghar bna liya? Maa baap bhai bhen ki shaadi, biwi bche dekh liye? Bhai kamse kam bol rhe ho to socho or fir bolo!! Kitni seats hai abhi? Aur Agnipath mein kitni seats hai?? Abhi jinka nhi hota vo kya kr rhe hai?? Kya krte hai?? Army mein life ki guarantee do ge tum 15 saal ki?? Kmse kam kuch soch k bolo bhai, ye hawa mein teer chli baatein mat kro
Hey Ranveer loved the full podcast but why this part is not present in the entire podcast? Is it a part of episode 2 or have you folks purposely edited it?
@@Nikhil-ih6ee I have got every possible outcome, screened-out, conference out, document out and my best and last attempt medical out from 18 ssb Allahabad, 24 July 2015.
Go natural, they are very good at catching artificially trained/coached guys, and try to maintain your cool during process. And last just enjoy your time.
He says politicians have no right to speak against. I guess he doesn't know that politicians only brought this scheme to play. I don’t know what logic he implied here
I have to admit he has a magnetic personality. He has so much of dynamic recovery experience but yet he is so balanced when he speaks.
Boy you need to be conditioned. Life when you live in Quartermile s , You Are an Ace already.Saludos to the Brother in Uniform.
And ranveer is also there
Jk
What is dynamic recovery?
He's much decent than jacob no harsh words at all 🔥
@@cloudnineepic he is colonel Jacob Is major I guess
See, the eyes, the confidence, the composure, everything just oozing out dang, what a man
This is what army gives you.
Seriously. Charismatic.
hahaha learn to speak proper english first. What you said sounds sus
Cough cough 🤧 gAY cough cough ...😅😂🤣
Only channel According to me which provides really realistic and practical view of topics which we don't get from mainstream media. Really enjoyed listening to the observation.
I can go on hearing him
So experience and wise.. And outspoken
We need more people like him
He is the production of the army, and the man's persona speaks a lot about the army's manufacturing.
He joined the army as a short service commissioned officer and got selected for a permanent commission!! Great!! Why did he leave after becoming a Colonel?
@@gaswholemaybe because it was his choice. Everyone has a choice to choose his/her career.
We are talking about 21st century skills, financial independence, retirement early, two career/three career in a life and so on. He chose his!
We have nothing to say about this.
@@avijitbanerjee6369 if you have nothing to say about this don"t. no one asked you to answer if you dont have anything to say about it.
@@avijitbanerjee6369sir can you please enlighten me why people are against this scheme?
Because of men like Rajeev sir, we still have faith in the army. What a personality !!!!!
He joined the army as a short service commissioned officer and got selected for a permanent commission!! Great!! Why did he leave after becoming a Col?
What do you mean by still as if anyone is loosing hope
75% will go back
@@Rohitvermambaso what should the organisation take everyone even if they don't need them or won't be able to give them money
Bro army is not about one personality it is a great organization with so much diversity so yup col rajveer is a hell of a soldier but he was only a small part of big organization have faith in india army . Policies will come and go but the army always stands stall 🗿🗿
Ranbir, we won't mind if make military podcast as long as possible,
See, I am aspirant and I love listing to these podcast.
Aspirant for the agniveer scheme?
@@gaswholewhat you doing bro
So refreshing to hear a soldier speak about Agniveer and that too one with a balanced, well rounded and calm perspective on things. I hope some of those ruccus makers see this and feel some shame or at least a little remorse in their bones. Jai Hind. Greetings from Hyderabad.
exactly brother
Perhaps you must listen to Nitish Rajput to truly if this is a "balanced".
This podcast makes Agneepath scheme sound gorgeous with words like "earn it, prove it, i slogged my ass... Etc"
@@stk6997 dude no one if forcing you to join agniveer , If you are talented enough go join as an Officer permanentely . Joining army isnt any other gov job where you work hard to get selected in and once in you are done growing . All these people crying they know that they arent talented enough to be permanently commissioned .
1.Short service commission was introduced because the army has a shortage of officers below the rank of colonel. This is not the case with other ranks
2.The armed forces employs more civilians than the size of the Pakistan army. Their pension bill is bigger burden than the soldiers (5 times more). There is no agniveer scheme for them
Lets see how this scheme fares in 4 years time and hope for the best
@@Kai-ps6lh No one is crying about getting commissioned as an officer. The agniveer scheme isn't applicable to officers, its for the other ranks. The armed forces already run a short service commission scheme for officers because they are facing a shortage of officers.
For Nepali it is not a job it is our legacy.
Ghanta ko legacy...dhoti ko gu chanta gako xa legacy??
Wow a person who never joined army is saying such things MILJA BETA EKK BARR FIR BATENGE @@Roobin_19
"Rank never retires"
That why no AGNIVEER will not count themselves as a soldier.... After 4 yr if they get re enrolled then on they get at solder rank and soldier pay scale
Ranveer, one slight correction. It is Agnipath Scheme, not Agniveer Scheme. Agniveers are the soldiers recruited/enlisted through the Agnipath Scheme.
Naha le
@@rajat2333 😂😂😆
The aura this man carry is phenomenal.
Thank God, someone there to voice pro Agneeveer!!!🤩😍😍😍😍 total respect
Ranveer please dig deep with your questions like joe
This is a podcast not a News debate…
Go watch Joe. Not sure why you're comparing when you can just go watch him instead of asking Ranveer to be a wannabe knockoff.
Ranveer does very little research hence most of his lines of inquiry come across as superficial.
You can see the stark difference between Ranveer and Col. Rajeev. He has a different vibe to him; like a hardened disciplined wise man
Ranveer is a girl child
@@prasuncdas if you will sit beside him you will probably look like that too 😂😂
Every man is different.
The harsh reality at the end of the day it's absolutely correct no one is forcing u to join in the Army, but definitely one thing no one chooses an uncertain career hence the quality people doesn't join they will choose some other. Quality less people who doesn't have anything else and those who r really passionate only joins........one thing is sure Quality will be compromise
What a personality. Thanks for your services Sir. Jai Hind.
Colonel speaks well but one thing he tells is that people should join army for passion. He might have forgotten that our country's unemployment is so bad that young youth of rural India who might not have the greatest of educational prowess are forced to choose it as a career option. It is the unfortunate truth of our country.
Then what about isreal whether ur king or beggar u must be an army once in a lifetime lol
@@bidyanandakeisham5239 comparing country a of 90 mil with 1.5 bil is nothing but dumb 🙄 and I don't think Israelis think about unemployment after their mandatory service tenure..
@@rishavdana7527 ya that's y out of 1.5 billion agnipath will freed some people and u dont have to criticized it because it will not harm u
@@bidyanandakeisham5239 They are not job insecure that's why. If that rule is removed there, the strength of army will reduce hence that rule is imposed. Now in india It feels like indian army is also thinking like corporate mafia they know that country has a lot of poor people who will still be compeled to apply for army because of no choice. Thank god the pay structure of the scheme got revised or else it was looking like they are treating soldiers as daily wage labourers or contractual unskilled labour who gets about 10-15k per month.
@@bidyanandakeisham5239Army was an carrier option but after implementation of Agnipath.Indian army is no more considered as carrier option.
I knew he was a real man who goes to the field himself and not just bark orders once I heard him speak about Manipur and Assam. It is rare among officers to have such in depth knowledge and understanding of what they're dealing with. Respect to colonel sahab for his whole hearted efforts in NE region.
This man is very positive and motivate person ❤️
I think he misquoted the monthly in-hand salary. It is 21K in first year and 28k in 4th year. 11.7 lakh one time payment , non taxable. Just wanted to put this figures out there
Here fact are been discussed buddy ,go with sir's experience and positivity , his way to handle these things is incapable
@@ndakijourney incapable?
Why are you focusing on that particular amount the nation pays to you, focus on the training and course and you will continue the other 11 or 12 years in the army,
@@ndakijourney first thing you have to make you English understanding better you think different word in your mind and type different in comments section
@@hementsharma7014 The guy is just putting the actual raw figures in front of people and there's nothing wrong with it. Of course, for someone who wants to join the army, Money shouldn't be an issue. Years ago when my family wanted me to join the army telling me all the benefits it had, I didn't because of the same reasons. If I don't feel passionate about it, money and other things shouldn't be a factor. The same logic applies for all the civil services jobs as well. You should be passionate to serve the nation if you want to be an IAS not because it will get you a lot of respect. Unfortunately, most people in India don't think like that and that's a problem.
But letting people know the actual figures also helps in filtering out some people who're not meant to be in the army. If someone wants to not join because 21k is way less than 47k, that's good for the army, that person wouldn't have survived anyways in the army.
It's a win-win, there's nothing wrong with statistics.
because of this legends we have the best army in the world😍
we have less helmet for special force ,,I see them in cap and cloths in their ,where are their helmet ,and we call them special force
Hey buddy...
You haven't even seen them...u don't even know how fuckin hard they work..u just know what media is showing and what is classified...bro just don't feel this..but special forces are built different.. inspiration>>>budget
@@abhishekpawar5888 kyu bhai konsi armi dekhta hain tu ya Indian I'd banake Pakistani hai
@@84bitmercyop58 bro I love Indian army ,, that's y I am telling the truth in kargil war soldier die because of weak helmet I want improvement ,,, tu to bhai modi bahkt ho lagta hai
With due respect to our nation, it's the 3rd largest. The best army is of Israel with ammunitions having latest technology inside.
This gentleman is so cool he wears his glasses behind his head👍
The best solution is to change definition of agniveer as … apprenticeship or training than job ☺️
Sir with due respect
What about those aspirants who had cleared their physical exam and medical and waiting for their CEE and results of Army and AIR force for more than a year.
They worked hard they were motivated enough. What's their fault.
1st of all you have to understand that army is not there to give job to anyone. Army is there to defend the country. So your hard work has nothing to do with country defence.
2nd thing, it's unfortunate and unlucky that those aspirants caught in the middle of corona.
A person can easily go fit to unfit on those 16 to 30 months.
So just for your hard work and to give you job, army can't recruit unfit person. It's not some SSC , railway and other organisations where only fit brain required. In army fitness is as important as brain.
@@AkashSingh-nf5ey
So you think that all aspirants got covid and now they are Medically unfit. Is it possible .
There might be a few but not all.
@@AkashSingh-nf5ey
And let me warn you money and other facilities doesn't matter for any aspirant.
It is his love for uniform and passion to serve country that make him motivated to join armed forces.
@@ShubhamSharma-ye8we when did I say that aspirants got COVID.
Due to COVID army couldn't not have the joining but after COVID period its very much possible that thise aspirants might have gone fit to unfit in those period of time.
@@ShubhamSharma-ye8we Lie to someone else that facilitates and money doesn't matter for any aspirants. I am not coming from other planets. I come from a small village in bihar. Where students go through all sort of things. So i know that what is motivation for the aspirants. And money and job guarantee is one of the motivation factors. So kindly don't lie like this.
Ask any EX service man specially Jawans and JCO's they know the Ground reality . If (retired 5,7 years ago )..they all are against . at present army officers are supporting this scheme to safeguard their promotion , if they denies they will not get the recommendation.
He is retired too
@@rajputashutosh1 same mere dad bhi 2018 JCO se retire he Or abhi railway gaitman me job krr rhe he
@@rajputashutosh1 bhai retirement ke bad boht nokriya hoti hai bank, railway, securityguard in govt office etc or agar tumre father fit hai toh woh bapis DSC mai bhi ja skte hai as reserve personal.
Desh ko army mai size ki nhi capability ki zrurat hai size toh russia ka bhi boht tha abhi dikh hi rha hai woh kaisa ja rha hai
@@rajputashutosh1 bhai papa ki age bhi btado
Dusra agniveer ko other services mei bhi reservation hai along with nearly 20 lakh rupees and courses which they will study while there 4 years of service
People here are saying that watchman is a small job ! Nice perspective guy's keep it up !
I mean I heard about this agniveer policy and people were going crazy about this ,and I wanted to know about this policy and now I got an actual explanation of this policy.. now I can definitely say that this is the best policy for armed forces .. I mean people want guarantee for their whole life in the service where the job is like u don’t know that u will be alive next minute
such a nice guy he is...❤️🇮🇳🇮🇳
Lot's of Love and Respect...
Agniveer was a scheme that was fully thought & formulated by the army itself for it's wellbeing.
Let's keep faith in our army.
क्या सेना ने कभी किसी योजना को formulate किया है?
क्या योजना बनाना सेना का काम है?
क्या ऐसी कोई योजना की आपको जानकारी है जिसको सेना ने बनाया हो?
@@GauravDhandhukia Gneral Bipinrawat ka statement padho ja ke..unhone army ke bare kya bola hai 🥰
@@jaideepraj1965 उनके हजारों स्टेटमेंट है आर्मी के बारे में, कौन सा वाक्य देखूं, किस मंच से दिया था, क्या बोला था? कब बोला था? on duty दिया था या ऑफ ड्यूटी?
@@GauravDhandhukia toh kya tahul gandhi formulate karta hai kya
@@rajat2333 सरकार formulate करती है सरकार चाहे किसकी भी हो फेकू की या पप्पू की।
U r comparing yourself with Agniveer 😂😂with 90 days holidays and more than 1.20 lakh per month! And 14 years of service.... Oops 😶 Agniveer only get 30 days leave and 21 k per month😶no no both are same baba👍😂
Despite passing a UPSC entrance to direct officer rank and training in OTA he is still keeping himself in that post. It should be respected but alas you are brainrot whenever you listen agniveer
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@@JatinNegi-y8w he isn't comparing. How can a Major compare with a sepoy rank scheme. It's entirely different. They get more than 2.5 L per month. A regular sepoy rank gets 50-65k
Throughout the agniveer scheme after 12 years we have the best of best soldiers in the indian army who are truly passionate about army 🪖 they serve the nation to every single breath. I'm very passionate about the army , training, ammunition but sadly due to not proper guidance i m not able to join the army 🪖 this is the worst things ever happened to me, but I will definitely guide my child to go army, navy or airforce whatever he or she choose that time
He is giving half cooked information about Agniveer. My many friends are in Army and all are criticising this new scheme.
he won't criticise publicly.
You tells us fully cooked information?
If many of your friends are criticising the scheme then in that case they shouldn't have joined the army. Kyunki bhai jab aapko aisa lg raha ki isme aapke kayi haq maare jaa rhe hain aur jo cheez ek jawaan ko chahiye hoti hain woh nhi mill rhi so why have they joined army,...isse yeh pta lgta hai ki all they wanted is to get a permanent job in the army with a handsome amount of remuneration they get while serving the nation and along with that to enjoy a lavishing life. Aur sarkaar pehle keh chuki hai ki yeh koi fixed scheme nhi hai isme bhi amendments kiye jaaenge jb zaroorat hogi
@@Prakhar_Mishrajust to update you my a lot of friends are in army. One of my friend is taking retirement this year just bcz of political interventions and this poor agniveer yojna. Also updating you my chacha is 1971 war veteran and he also criticising this yojna. Yes all andhbhaks and chamchas are praising it bcz they never gonna join army as agniveer.
@@ankitchandra3704 See, it's not about bjp or any other political BS. This scheme's main motive was to develop a sense of nationality amongst the citizens of our country, which is totally void in most cases. The education system fails to deliver here, as the graduates of the Agniveer Yojna won't have adequate skills to compete in the civil market. We should take this scheme positively, and the required amendments should be made accordingly. And first of all, the person applying for this scheme will jolly well know the repercussions that will follow. The person applying for this role will be joining the military out of patriotism and not for the benefits of salary and pension. And we should learn something from Korea and Israel, where both the opposition and the government support initiatives that deal with a nation's security and development rather than forcefully criticising everything.
Sir ka LeveL jo h...woh toh koi touch nhn kr payga...damn sure
Proud to be a an indian
Thank you sir for teaching us... How become positive in lifeS upSdown situation🙏😇
Such a great video, He has charismatic personality!!
What Colonel Rajeev fails to acknowledge is that men join professions with risk to life and limb, is because men have the burden of performance. Earning money and attaining some kind of status is mandatory for all men. Also, a component of military life is constant training, which agniveers will not do, in 4 years of service. Also, when people know that they will be out of a job in 4 years, they will not be motivated to perform at the same level. Regimentation was introduced by the British in the army for a specific purpose. When men know that they are going to serve and perform with men in the same social and work environment with other men, their behaviour changes dramatically. Agniveer is a basically flawed scheme, which is bound to have bad consequences.
🙂🙂 different person have different opinion about aganiveer😊
this was more satisfied my 3 friends selected for it and they also have the same opinion about💯
Very nice and beautiful analysis
well explained sir proud of having officers like you....jai hind
Love this man 😎❤️🙏....
Why was this part not into complete podcast?
Can't hop channels bro. You could have uploaded it in two parts if complete podcast was getting long.
💯
I am from Manipur .. very fair and balance interview..
He is getting pension and all other post retirement benefits and his bank balance is quiet good than that of an agniveer on retirement after 4 yrs....that's why he is giving lecture on Ethics....i would suggest him to check his moral compass and i would also advise the podcaster to invite some people from grassroot level ( the PBOR ranks in army) also, and Not always the golden spoon feeders.
Agniveers all get 1 cr life insurance plus set up fund after service. So 🤫
@@pruthvimeka3259 Abe life insurance Marne ke baad Nominee ko milta he... retire hone ke baad life insurance ka Paisa kaha milta he be? 😂😂..aur Marne ke baad insurance 44 lacs ka he ...pata nhi he toh bhok mat
@@factteller5471 setup funds mitla hain na bewakoof? Tata relieved agniveers ko recruit karne keliye tayar hain. Tim itni mand budhi lab se ho bhai?
Abe oh fuddu kitni recruitment hoti hai pata bhi hai kuch@@pruthvimeka3259
Let me tell you life insurance marne k badd claim hota h👍 aur ap syad 50 lakh ka loan milra h uski batt krae ho... Okiee me apko bta du jo ap loan lete ho vo liability hoti h! (Liability=bojh) Yup toh ap 50 lakh ka loan lere ho bina kissi source of income k toh vo bojh he hoga and agr apko 4 sal badd 10 lakh rupe jada lgre honge jo Agniveer ko retirement me milega toh me apko bta du 50% of 10lakh Agniveer khud he deta h apko govt total 4 sal badd apne se 5 lakh rupe deti h bs khtm....👍@@pruthvimeka3259
he is so crisp .... u got the right guy on the show to explain this
Thank you so much for the information.
Our nation needs reform in Armed forces for new challenges.
Keep thinking about fighting. And leave the school, proverty inflation
@@xxjacksparrowxx6742 oh hero talk about time from independence corrupt congi
@@ullas9999 abe akal ke gobar bhakat. Ab jo power me he usi ko bolenge na??? Mobile use karte ho na re, kyu karta hai be. Teri dadu ne to nahi kiya tha!!
@@xxjacksparrowxx6742 jab ghar me ghuske pel denge , tab jana poverty and inflation ke bareme sochne
@@xxjacksparrowxx6742 Syria also stopped defence expenditure and over focused on "development" and jargons , result ? They are now beggars
Amazing personality..great job beer biceps !
Only an officer can deny the opinion "why this is not for officers " . The biggest problem with agniveer was neither pension nor anything but the problem is that they just outrightly cancelled previous exams & recruitments for which they were assuring so many young candidates for more than one year that their results will come. Let me tell everyone that in many of these recruitments every test was done only final merit list was to be released. Now just imagine how painful it would be for those candidates who were waiting for their call letter and results and they were promised by even Rajnath singh that their results will come. But as always there was a surprise for them from our respected PM . The biggest misfortune is that now nobody even talking about that point. Even highcourt is disappointing us
Short service commissioned officers donot get pensions too earlier it was for 5 years .
@@akshitmangurung it was 5 years term earlier but now it is 10 years na & I didn't even talk about pension and all , the main issue is why previous recruitment were cancelled
@@priyanshuu15 dude I’m from the fraternity and I’m aware of it . It’s just army doesn’t require that many candidates
@@akshitmangurung bro I don't know army requires how many or not but if you had promised them that they'll be recruited & you made them to wait for more than 1 year and suddenly one day you come & say no your recruitment is cancelled. Tell me how will you feel after that
whenever I hear his voice and the way he talks with full of confidence, courage. I want to be daredevil like him. Ya and it's true that we do not have rights to interfere in army decisions. Please don't get brainwashed by UA-cam channels and politicians. Salute you colonel rajeev sir
We have been waiting for 1 year our airmen joining letter but due to agniveer scheme they cancelled all previous recruitment so none one talk of that every one is talk of agniveer 😥
He knows everything but still didn't say a word
iam thinking same.. he knows it all despite that he won't say a word on it . hypocrisy just need followers 👎👎👎 not everyone is like major jacob and major sushant
Bro same here ....ye sirf baith ker bate marte hain ...scheme badia thi bachho ko joining deke bad me bhi implement ker skte the
My GOD this Legend is absolutely Inspirational I think my life will change after.watching this
Colonel is taking 1.50 lakh pension.. And talking about benefit of agniveer..
What's your problem then?
What abt agnee veer are they working for free..
In the Short service commission there is no pension ...second he is an officer by exam not by bribe ....
He has earned officer badge if he get pension also then also no problem ..and they should get after clearing such an hard interview(ssb) and training but yeah SSC officers don't get pension
Armed forces is Not Government job!!!!! This is for all those people who are against agneever scheme
This clips are not included in the full podcast why is it so???
*Sorry to interrupt you sir but short service commissioned officer has an option to continue after completing his mandatory time period but in agneveer scheme only 25% of the jawans can continue after their 4yrs which is incomparable to OTA (SSC) even though 100% of jawans will be willing to continue still they could not*
Bro he told correct agniveer should be joined by someone who has passion for army.I remember one of my Collegemate rejected corporate package cuz they had passion.its like SSB u try and then u get ejected.
Ex. If A person is excited he should enroll four years server the nation and if by chance merit is not given he will be given 12 class certificate as well as amount earned.With this money he can continue to his education or he may get other jobs.
Thing is passion.
@@Sappy95 👍🏼👍🏼
Not everyone get option to continue their service in short service commission ...very few got chance to continue their service and most of them get retire ...1 out of 1000 got permanent commission
Sir you used to get 8000 salary but you didn't mentioned that jawan used to get only 400 rupees. Your savings were 500 rupees. Officers culture in deep rooted in defense but poor jawan can't say a word against it. I've myself seen my friend's husband roaming like servant with his commander. His job is not to take commander's family to hospital, shopping, fetch his children from bus stop, cut grasses of his garden but he is forced to do all this.
to aap kya chahte ho officers aur soldiers ki salary same ho jaaye ?? and stop telling all this nonsense. kisko pagal bana rahe ho?? my father is serving in Indian Navy as a MCPO(II) no doubt sometimes some officers ask help from juniors to drop his family to hospital or railway station but one can directly say no to them if he is not comfortable. jo chamchagiri karte hai officers ki promotion ke liye unhi ko ye kaam de diye jaate hai aur wo kar bhi lete hai so stop blaming Indian Military or any of its personnel.
@@Bharat-pp4ee well said dude
@@Bharat-pp4eechup kar ..... Tum officer log sochte ho army tumhare baap ki h ...... Soldier tumahare gulam h ....... Isliye jab tum civil life m ate ho to tumko pta chalta h hakikat ka
@@amitrawat3795 Here is the difference kyun officers 7 lakh candidates mein se sirf kuch 100 hi ban paate hai .....apni language se hi dekh lo. Pehle jo likha hai wo padho ache se aur logic dhundke fir likho jo likhna hai . aur rahi baat officer aur soldier ki mere dada army mein soldier the retd. naib subedar aur mere papa soldier hai navy mein MCPO(II) aur main NDA cadet hu airforce mein, maine dono life dekhi hai ki kis tarah ka system hai fauj mein. aur army humare baap ki nahi hai, We soldiers and officers ourselves are the Indian Army.
@@Bharat-pp4ee I'm too an airforce aspirant, bro. Aapke smjhane k tarike se he pta chalta h, kon officer layak h or kon soldier layak, salute.😊
Explanation with experience & example.. Hatdoff sir
Superb take on agniveer 👍👍👍
Best Podcast Ever on Beer Biceps😀
Thank u for this valuable content 💓
Work hard be competitive and make your permanent journey in army. As simple as that....
With all due respects- there was no sati pratha.
Jauhar is not equal to sati pratha. Jauhar had reasons atttached to it.
Jai hind❤️
Sati pratha was a thing but not a wide spread thing. But a rare event. Not even 0.0001% hindu widows have committed sati in old times. Sometimes women were willing to do it. Sometimes unwilling. But it was not a basic hindu ritual. Neither it is core philosophy of Hinduism. So people should stop sati pratha banter to make hindus sound like evil occult organization.
@@anandpatel1896 yeah bro these Britishers made this thing so hyped that we think Hinduism is bad religion but the thing is sati was not forcefully but more self decision like u can see what jauhar was and the Britisher used to do these things in Europe . Plzz check out the witch hunting in Europe
@@anandpatel1896 a pratha is something that is followed by everyone, if there is a one in a million cases of something then you can not call it a pratha, your point was correct but you made a little mistake, so I thought I would correct you👍
Don't know what this man's vested interest is,
But he looks like a hypocrite .
@Pragnesh Kumar bete inhone khud se kiya tha naki forcefully. Mai tumhe blame nhi krunga ye sb sochne ke liye kyuki tumlog ki social engineering Hui h Britishers dwara taki tum ye sab socho . Jbki ye Europe mai aurton ko jalana aam baat thi . Search about witch hunting
CDS bipen rawat sir had already told in past that with clear warning that youths should not compare civilian government jobs with Indian army services.
Sir were also giving railway jobs as example.
Phele enough jobs do phir gyan do
Correction .
"Sati" was not a pratha (tradition).
"Sati" was a few sparse incidences in the huge ancient Bharat. Some of these incidences were voluntary will of the woman to burn herself in the fire.
Some people have just imbibed the communist propoganda in their mind.
Yea bro u r right the PPL who thinks this was a tradition much watch the Abhijit chavda sir video on this topic
@Pragnesh Kumar wait a sec bro Sita ji and drapudi ji never committed sati...
@Pragnesh Kumar and the might have committed but definitely they were not forced to do so I will request you to watch Abhijit chavda sir video on it for more clarification
Yup yup yup because as everyone knows that Abhijit Chavda never distorts or cherry picks facts to suit his own narrative .... WHAT A JOKE . PLEASE STOP LIVING IN AN ECHO CHAMBER
@@sarthakkukreti2444 just tell me one vid in which he has done it...
Who went for passion will be around 5 percent but who went for need of an opportunity for job will be 95%
See how confident and clear he has, I hope every kid has to join and give service for at least 2 years in the Indian army,
..and do what?
so you want millions of militarized youths ???? WTF
We want Power full army and police not joker ok
It's fun to watch when privileged people talk about poor people that this is not job and passion!!
There are other army special forces personnel who criticised agniveer scheme in TRS podcasts 😅
The way he's put up his glasses behind 👌🔥😂🙌🇮🇳🙏
I beleive as sir rightly said it is a volunteer force one should not complain about it proceduring and should abide by whatever is put infront of you .If you are passionate for it you won't expect much from it and defence forces is such organisation that knows to take care of their men very nicely 😍
if a soldier lost his life during the tenure of 4 year who will feed his family???
@@shashankbisht7204 if you want to think about your family then don't join Indian Armed Forces. Indian Armed Forces is for those who are bravest of braves. aur rahi baat unki family ki Indian Army se jyada unka khayal koi nahi rakhta tum to do din bhi shahido ko yaad nahi rakhte.
Couldn't agree less with Col Rajeev sir on agnipath. I don't see how he can compare it with SSC where one get 10-14 years of service or Permanent Commission like Col himself.
You are getting pension?? Definitely you are getting
But agniveers will not
Army is not for money and pension
If I'm sure Agni veer will get some amount of money when they retire after 4 years
Some Agniveers based on merit will continue and get pension others will get a one time amount for their future in just 4 years of service
No he's not getting any pension
Thanks for explaining very nicely the Agniveer Scheme Jai Hind
Agniveer is a great initiative. I wish it was there when I was young, I would have joined without batting an eyelid.
It would've been easy back then, go n watch a recruitment rally nowadays
Nah tu kavi nai join karta
@@babrujawaan 😂😂😂 han bhai bas inko fekna aata hai bas
To b frank I had some doubts on this agniveer scheme but colonial cleared it. Thank you 😊
Colonel*
But sir with due respect many army veterans are still against of Agniveer. Whenever I hear their logic like only 6 months in so short of army training,this will cut down the morals of this institution, it is dangerous for borders etc. feel really scared.
These are those army veterans who never went to war but still got pensions and want their sons also to do the same.. get paid for not doing a job they were built, created, recruited for
Time demands changes in the doctrine of how the forces should work we have to do change accordingly. Firstly we have to think we have a limited budget we have to use that according to that. Modern battlefield is changing very rapidly and we need a lean and lethal force for the future war that we would fight. With due respect he is saying the right thing and I fully support it.
@@bharathratnani9532 Really? You have seen them sitting in office or ac cabins all their career? Maj Gen GD Bakshi(71, 99, Kashmir insurgency), Major Avinash Sahani(North-East insurgency), Marco Praveen Teotia(26/11), Major Samar Toor(Siachen, J&K militancy and South Sudan UN).
@@2km223 Is Bakshi against Agniveer? You sure?
@@rahulchaudhary-xg9vz l
Whatever you said it is a balanced opinion but not fair enough. If everybody of this country feels proud about army than everybody has the right to ask question about the army policies logically. Agniveer is not a bad policy but government should add more advantages for those who will get retirement. They should get a degree at least. Due to inflation and low demand in corporates highly qualified persons are also not getting jobs in corporates.
Well explained. My only problem is why MLA MPA will get lifelong pension after serving only 5 years of their life that too which kind of service most of them do is not unknown to the people ??
@@jatingupta3443 exactly. Major war happens very rarely. And having nuclear weapons prevent it more. Most of the army personnel get retired without fighting any major war. Their pension gets more budget. We have to cut down the budget and should focus on technology. We are the 4th largest defence in the world bcz of number but are we really that strong with lacking of advance technology.
@@jatingupta3443 ok great idea!! In that case why has the government NOT reduced the numbers of civilian employees of the armed forces whose pensions are a much bigger burden? Why should the army reduce the number of soldiers who fight without reducing the civilians who do not fight?
Sir , we r not opposing agniveer , I have clear All physical +medical test in feb 2021 for Soldier (tech. Army) when i was 22 year hold . I was preparing for exam for one and half year. Dont u think this is totally injustice to aspirant like me. And now i am already 23year old not even eligible for agniveer😭. My grandfather , father was also army personnel, i wish to be the third generation but 😭. Hope Officer likes you or Ranvir bhai understand.😭
The age limit has been increased temporarily right?
Your eligible for the army mate! 23 is the maximum
@@Mr.notBeastt what about is 1 year wasted...he was already into the selection process from last 1 year....why his whole selection process was cancelled.....I m also a airforce Aspirants i had cleared all stages and waiting for joining letters....but after announcement of agniverr they cancelled my joining
then try for officer entries you still have 2 years
why crib when you have the time
@@rajatyadav4819 same brother. I was also waiting for the enrollment list
1.Officers have option of permanent entry which jawans dont have.
2. Every soldier is not 8th class pass..There is 10th class entry for GD,12th Class with Physics, chemistry, Math And with 50% marks for Technical, 12th Class pass for Clerk, 12th + PCB for Nursing assistant
3. Short Service Officers get Exserviceman Status which Agniveer will not get because they serve for 5 year minimum not 4 years. like agniveer..
4. 8000 rupees 25-30 years back was a good amount that time a sepoy used to get 800 rupees so dont compare todays salary with salary of 25 years back
5. Short Service officers getting out is much smaller than Agniveers who came back after 4 years.
This is the exact answer i was searching for 👍 absolutely right!!
True👍
No soldier is recruited on 8 th class these days.
He is too confident that he totally refused to look the other side of the story.
There are many woman who has worked as short service commission they don't have option for permanent commission.... if they can work why can't u
Hello Ranveer, please bring Mr. Madhur Sharma, brother of Late Major Mohit Sharma(SM, Ashok Chakra). People know about Major Mohit but a podcast about him would be crazy. A lot people would want it. Pleeease.
He's not talking the ground reality, Agniveers are in no way a officer grade . It just can't be compared.
It was a half baked scheme . The "lateral rec." stuff was shoehorned in after they received massive backlash . They could not even facilitate "LATERAL RECRUITMENT" of short service commission officers into the paramilitary even though it was recommended by a cabinet commission ..... them talking about lateral recruitment avenues for jawans is a big joke .
7:33 This is why people should read the books of Dr Meenakshi Jain
There should be a pension reduction and cut off for MPs, MLAs, And politicians after they complete the tenure
It's unfortunate that most of our MPs and MLAs misuse their position, but in reality, they are doing a very important job. Of course, cutting their pensions will help save some money, but that doesn't mean we continue hiring more and more soldiers. We don't need those many. What we need is a limited number of soldiers with advanced weaponry, and that's not possible unless we cut down on the size.
Well said !
Modi should do it then ... BUT he will not
Agniveer will strengthen indians . If we are attacked our family members will be capable to protect us if they join agniveer and get retired.
He is clearly telling a lie because for officers currently their salary started from 1 lacks + and goes upto 3/4 lack per month. And for soldiers strted from 30/33k per month and goes upto hardly 80/90k after serving their nation for 20/22 year’s.
And the facilities and everything is far better for officers than jawans.
Bhai toh pdhke officer lag jao
ranvir bhaiya pls talk about this conversation in your Hindi podcast too becuz most of the people who joins Indian army on agnipath scheme don't know English language and they are getting brainwashed with false information or interpretation or propoganda
21000 में शाहदत देने वाले अग्निवीर की शाहदत को भी याद कर लिया करो 🙏😥😭
जिसकी शाहदत की कीमत 1 करोड़ रूपए है 🙏😥😭
a tight slap on the face of that hypy para bicycle guy 😂😂😂....finally a real indian army guy with real knowledge.... 😁😁😁
Who ? 🤔
5:31 it will reduce after 2-3 years just see. Since the people who have already invested their time into preparing have no other choice. Who's gonna recruit the other 75% people? Amount of officers leaving after short service is not even more than a thousand. Since they are graduates have a good background they would get some other jobs. and there would be thousands of agniveer who are jobless after 4 years. They will have no degree in their hand, even if they do they would struggle so much finding new jobs.
I dont feel colonel is right about this agniveer !!! Major sushants concern were very genuine
You are wrong here my friend
Completely agree with you Major sushant was very right about this policy
My friend serving in the Army also shown concern on this policy
Have u heard about National Cadet Corps?
@@AmitJha-ow2sr beta ye koi tere gaon ki mnrega scheme nhi h jo tuje job guarantee degi ...armed forces are a highly sensitive responsibility which need passion driven youth not a job driven kid like u 😁
@@rajatdeshmukh1827 ok buddy
Indian army is voluntary service not like other government jobs.
Youths should not misuse indian army service for government jobs.
Why are Gorkhas not joining the Indian Army after the Agniveer scheme was launched?
Emotional motivational is alright, but a greater percentage of people in any country join forces as a career option, and no one likes to have a career uncertainty.
Another blunder by the government is delaying joining of personnels due to their incompetent delays and waiting qualifying ages of soldiers.
If you think of army job is a regular rozgaar than better dont join.. said by an Army chief
Army is not a employment generation program
@@kittupathak9930Be pratical.Don't live in fantasy.Everyone has family to earn livelihood for them.
@Keshab_Kumar_ if u want livelihoods do other work army job is not meant for that
@@kittupathak9930do armymen do their work for free then ? Voluntary work toh free hota hai ryt
Due respect to the personal opinions but the very fact that people and officers working in the army are against it. It is better to not blame but address the problems and the concerns of those who are having problems.
He is comparing his SSC to that of an ordinary soldier. Considering the amenities the officers get is far better than a soldier. Their payments is to the lesser extent you could imagine when they start. This is just purest form of bootlicking. 😂
He is working for the army why would he go against their decisions. That's why i didn't agree to his opinion at all.
First of all Army isn't a money making platform
Post Army there are many options and perks that are given.. Commenting for sake of commenting mate is not fair.
@@Raph-xu5iw A SSC officer doesn't get pension or any other facility after his service. So your point that he is working for them is just wrong.
An Agniveer would get a total of 23 lakh in his 4 years of service and an SSC officer gets 27 lakh for the first 4 year of his service. So it is very much opt to compare them both. And it's fine if u don't agree with his opinion but respect his title.
@@gagann5399 first and foremost salary and benefits aren't the perks India soldiers enroll atleast as Officer level. More than salary Army teaches them how to live a life. Those who have served or serving in Army will tell them even if Agniveer once the course is over if they are eligible will be full time enrolled and things will change for better If modifications are needed to the rule. Let's not go with the politicians criticise a policy until few years and batches are done. If it's not a good scheme Army it self will reject it in future.
Sir aap bahut achha Kam Kar Rahe ho,apse Hume khub Jakari milta hai .aise hi chalte rehna.
Sorry to say sir my whole family serving army and no one supporting this decision... specially persons who join Army as a constable and go up to JCO amd captian have more experience and knowledge than you ..they are not supporting this scheme...in 3-4 years you do not become complete soldier for war....you should feel ashamed to say that they have corporate jobs ...after serving indian army ..they had to work as security guard... every boy who join Army as a soldier... belongs to poor families or from Villages ...in today's time no one gives you job with 10,12 qualification.Sab ko pta hai india me next level unemployment hai ..aur jo bache bass army ke liye jij rhe the unke pass ab kohi option nhi hai ..har jagha exploit kiya jaa rha hai
Right
There are no free lunches. Army is not your personal security policy. Besides, this country cannot afford life pensions of army personnel. Already done away with for central and many state govt employees. Today most of the security budget is spent on salaries and pensions, can't find this in any other country. Time to come to terms with the economic reality
Agar nhi pta kuch to zeher bhi mat fenko.. apne jaise 10 aur ka dimaag mat khraab kro..
If you are open to debate on this, let me know your any ID and I will proove you wrong in all aspects of your knowledge about it.
I myself belong to an army family and none in the family is opposing it.
Ye jo bekwoof waali baat likhi hai tumne ye tumhe deshbhakt nhi desh ki naukri krne k liye bol rhi hai..
In army, you are not pain for your job, you are paid for your devotion towards the nation.
@@vaibhavgupta7076 devotion ko ghar walo ko khaana nhi milta ? Ye baatin unke liye achi hai jinke baap dada piche chhod gye ho ....ek sepoy jaane wala ladka jiske upar responsibility hoti hai uske maa baap ki ane wale time pe wife ki bacho ki ..ghar be nhi bana hota.. uska dil bass desh bhakti se nhi brta hai. Dil me bazbaa jarur hota hai aise he Army ki tyaari nhi ho jaati ...lekin sirf desh bhakti se ghar nhi chle ga ..humare yaha pe bacho ne kabhi college dekha he nhi ..bahut mushkil se schooling hue hai. Uske baad agar tum use bolo ki hum tumhe ghar bej denge. Dusri job dundte rehna ..toh uske liye problem bann jaye gi ....humare yaha unemployment itni hai skills nhi hai isliye 4 saal ke liye be line lagi hai. Otherwise sabko pta hai ki 4 saal toh ek acha soldier banne me lag jaate hai. Desh ko kya serve kre ga wo .. practically dekho. Kitaabo se nhi ..jo pad ke bade officer lage hote hai unko sirf gyan dena hai ..ek -do nokar apni wife ko ..ek -do bacho ke liye chahiye..aur parties krni hai yahi toh center me trend hai aur kya. Unko bass nokar ki kammi nhi honi chahiye desh ko acha soldier mile ya na mile ...30 to36 ka soldiers sabse jada experienced aur efficient hota hai. Ye 22-23 wale bichare ek posting ke baad ghar aa jaye ge.
@@sachinsharma3999 abhi vo kya kr rhe hai??
Abhi limited seats hai, army mein nhi hua to vo kya krenge??
Abhi ghar bna liya?
Maa baap bhai bhen ki shaadi, biwi bche dekh liye?
Bhai kamse kam bol rhe ho to socho or fir bolo!!
Kitni seats hai abhi? Aur Agnipath mein kitni seats hai??
Abhi jinka nhi hota vo kya kr rhe hai??
Kya krte hai??
Army mein life ki guarantee do ge tum 15 saal ki??
Kmse kam kuch soch k bolo bhai, ye hawa mein teer chli baatein mat kro
Hey Ranveer loved the full podcast but why this part is not present in the entire podcast? Is it a part of episode 2 or have you folks purposely edited it?
Ook only for your knowledge this is not there in full episode
And i rechecked whole podcast to know which segment I missed
I have given 12 SSB interviews, couldn't make it, feels bad. But still loves the army
Screen out or conference out?
@@Nikhil-ih6ee I have got every possible outcome, screened-out, conference out, document out and my best and last attempt medical out from 18 ssb Allahabad, 24 July 2015.
@@shreyb1409 I am fresher any tips for me ?
Go natural, they are very good at catching artificially trained/coached guys, and try to maintain your cool during process. And last just enjoy your time.
In few year we will see whether this scheme will help the nation or not . I just hope you don't remove this video in case it fails.
What if it succeeds
@@SurajMishra1- If it suceeds then I'll accept the truth.
😍😍😍 we have greatest army so proud 😊❤️🙏......
He says politicians have no right to speak against. I guess he doesn't know that politicians only brought this scheme to play.
I don’t know what logic he implied here
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