Thanks for making this video. Just a couple of comments from my experience. I had a battery on the shifter go flat on first use. I charged it expecting to get 20 or so hours on a wilderness trail in New Zealand's southern mountains. It expired after about 10 hours defaulting to a single speed but fortunately mid range on the cassette. I've subsequently been advised that SRAM AXS activates and turns itself on using a movement sensor so if the battery is attached then every bump experienced while the bike was on our transport trailer (an 8 hours vehicle commute) triggered and consumed battery energy. I've learned that removing the battery while the bikes being transported is prudent. It's also important that the battery and the shifter battery connection face are protected from moisture road grime etc. These days I carry a spare battery because I am yet to be convinced on replacing a perfectly good dropper post. More kit to misplace isn't ideal and some sort of master switch would be nice but that aside I like the AXS system.
I agree with you on the battery removal for transport. I put a piece of blue tape over the contact points for my spare battery and also when transporting batteries not on the bike. Keeps the contacts clean and is small and light.
Hi. I read about this when I was looking at my new SRAM. You shake the bike to wake up the shifter so I guess a car ride will keep the shifter from dozing off!
I recently flipped to AXS on my gravel bike and couldn't be happier. I don't even pay attention to the battery levels before leaving. If one dies, it's been the rear derailleur. I have 2x, so I just put the front derailleur into the small chainring and flip the batteries. Also, my computer tells me when the battery is low. I've had to charge mine roughly every 2 months. In that same time period I bet I've charged my lights and my computer a dozen times, and my phone goes on the charger every night. People who are worried about having to charge things are forgetting that they already have things in their life that need to be recharged, and at a much higher frequency than how often these batteries need to be charged. If you are the type of person that rarely has a phone run out of battery, then you can manage this just fine. For my 2x setup, I have mine set up to automatically manage the front derailleur. As I flip through the gears in the rear, it will automatically change the front derailleur to prevent cross chaining and at the same time it shifts the rear derailleur so I'm in a similar gear ratio to what it was before the shift. Its basically like having a 1x derailleur setup. I just shift, it does the rest.
This is really good feedback and an awesome point that we charge our bike computers, phones, headphones and everything else, so it's not a big deal. I'm with you...I don't have to charge for every ride....far from it. I only do full charges when I'm heading out for an overnight or something really big.
Thanks for this. I have had the same hesitations about electronic anything on my bikes for the same reasons you mentioned. But I can see it happening soon
Thx Rebecca so much...I finally upgraded after 15 yrs and even went to the bike I purchased website and they didn't even have the info on these batteries. You would at least figure that they would..anyway thx for the info. The best 3 things that have happened in all my years of Mtn biking is (1) tubeless tires,(2) electronic shifting and (3) electronic seat post. Have fun and thanks again.
The CR2032 battery will last for up to 2 years. You can check if you have enough charge manually by watching the green light flash when you move the shifter lever. However, it's easy to forget to check the shifter charge, and I've been caught out on rides twice with the shifter battery finally dying. Now I install new CR2032 batteries in each shifter during my January annual bike maintenance. You can carry a spare CR2032 w/you (very easy to do), BUT you have to be sure you'll be able to get the battery cover off, which on some SRAM models required a very tiny screwdriver, on others just a quarter coin will do, but either way, you'll need a tool to make the change. Just having the battery is not enough. A question I have is about what's the best strategy for rotating batteries when charging them (FD gets charged and placed on RD, and vice versa?), is it best to run the battery charge all the way to zero before charging? Or OK to go halfway and then charge? Or always charge to full after each ride?
Thanks for the great video. The SRAM App is fantastic. very handy for micro-adjustment. By the way, what kind of saddle roll bag was used in the video?
Thanks and glad it was helpful for you! yes the SRAM app is great! The seat bag is the Revelate Designs Shrew www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/seat-bags/Shrew
SRAM FORCE E-TAP AXS is my shifter i took battery off charged it when i insert it back on i see the green light go on, but i can't shift at all now even with the battery appearing to be fully charged. any thoughts on what to try for this? if the only option is a new battery (and maybe this is it but i don't use the bike crazy and have only recharged the thing perhaps 10x ever) is it expensive? if it is more then the battery i have owned the bike approx 2 years would this be out of warranty>
Sounds like either you need to re-pair the shifter with the derailleur, OR the shifter battery might be dead. SRAM has a great youtube videos to help with both of these things. Don't worry, it's not hard to re-pair or swap the shifter battery!
@@RebeccaRusch hey there thanks so much for the post i was in a panic last night as i go out for the ride after charging and nothing happens! so i was so torn up about it as i had to ride in the hardest gear. I have since educated myself that you can double tap the ax button on rear derailer and it will shift up, or single tap to shift down! Anyways you are correct the left shifter despite the app saying the battery is ok (misleading) was dead i replaced the battery in the unit and its all working again! thanks so much for replying though its good to know there's folks out there that like helping out others! I had no idea until I started researching that these shifters even had batteries!!
@@dreaderus oh good! So happy I could help! The same thing happened to me out in the wild and I didn't know about the shifter batteries until it happened to me and I texted my mechanic from the woods! now I carry a small round battery for those in my basic bike toolkit so I always have a spare. They last forever, but at least I have one just in case. I wrap it in tape so it is protected in my toolkit. Happy trails.
I always pair the AXS when I've replaced the CR2032 coin batteries in the shifters, I also pair the system if the RD or FD aren't working after being charged
She definitely meant to say 24 grams. It kind of shows you how strong Rebecca really is when she doesn't even think about weight. If I didn't know how badass Rebecca was from knowing about her before I watch this video, I would have dismissed anything further she had to say. She definitely knows what she's talking about
Another tip for you guys, sometime the SRAM battery refuses to charge, it stay in RED LED light. So what you do is tap the battery a few times as in connect the battery and disconnect the battery in the charger a few times, it can goes up to maybe 10 times or more or sometimes less. So it goes like when the Red comes On you pull it slanted and its Off, so it's On/Off, On/Off until you get the Orange LED and you know it is charging. This type of thing happen when the battery is fully flat and you forgot to charge it for months or weeks.
I must be unlucky. I’ve been stranded twice with AXS. Light was green last night. By ride time the next day, battery was 100% dead. Maybe I have a bad battery.
I am currently using AXS on Adriatic to Baltic XC route 2600km. I have had the bike up to the top of the tyres in water and mud. I have three batteries plus the charger ( packed away ) I can do 8 days maybe depending on gear shifts. I used it on North Cape 4000 race too. It’s awesome and has never let me down. It’s so easy to swap gear and your do not get numb hands by endlessly switching gear up and down. Effortless. It was recommended to me by Pro riders so I switched and it’s not been a problem ever. It’s my number one piece of kit less my SPOT GPS satellite tracker . Yes you do have to check how much battery power you have but if you can’t be bothered then your fundamental issue isn’t bikes it’s because your lazy by nature.
HA! This is great feedback and I'm with you...AXS far exceeded my expectations with battery life! And the spares are so light it's not a big deal to have one in your repair kit. So cool you're doing such long stuff with these and no issues!
I finished the off road route just a few days ago. First person to do it North to South. Weather in Slovenia was atrocious and TCR rides had trouble in storm on safe passage. 15cm rainfall for days. I was fine and the AXS was again faultless. If it ever went wrong I would likely be stuffed but it never has. Totally in love with it. Helps my hands and fingers too as I must have done 12,000 shifts in that 27 days ( and 2 hours )……. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED for any endurance. Maybe on hard MTB downhill stuff I wouldn’t as the likely hood of destroying it with accidents and falls, rocks bashing it maybe but everyone else will benefit.
This is the only video i have seen that mentions the cr2032 in the shifter. Much appreciated.
Thanks for watching!
This caught me out last week. Wish I'd watched this first!
I have always carried a extra coin battery and AXS battery
Thanks for making this video. Just a couple of comments from my experience. I had a battery on the shifter go flat on first use. I charged it expecting to get 20 or so hours on a wilderness trail in New Zealand's southern mountains. It expired after about 10 hours defaulting to a single speed but fortunately mid range on the cassette. I've subsequently been advised that SRAM AXS activates and turns itself on using a movement sensor so if the battery is attached then every bump experienced while the bike was on our transport trailer (an 8 hours vehicle commute) triggered and consumed battery energy. I've learned that removing the battery while the bikes being transported is prudent. It's also important that the battery and the shifter battery connection face are protected from moisture road grime etc. These days I carry a spare battery because I am yet to be convinced on replacing a perfectly good dropper post. More kit to misplace isn't ideal and some sort of master switch would be nice but that aside I like the AXS system.
That's a great tip! Remove the batteries before transport!
I agree with you on the battery removal for transport. I put a piece of blue tape over the contact points for my spare battery and also when transporting batteries not on the bike. Keeps the contacts clean and is small and light.
Hi. I read about this when I was looking at my new SRAM. You shake the bike to wake up the shifter so I guess a car ride will keep the shifter from dozing off!
Thank you! Just went for first ride on my first AXS bike, learning all I can. I appreciate you sharing your experience!
Woohoo! Welcome to the world of AXS!
I recently flipped to AXS on my gravel bike and couldn't be happier. I don't even pay attention to the battery levels before leaving. If one dies, it's been the rear derailleur. I have 2x, so I just put the front derailleur into the small chainring and flip the batteries. Also, my computer tells me when the battery is low.
I've had to charge mine roughly every 2 months. In that same time period I bet I've charged my lights and my computer a dozen times, and my phone goes on the charger every night. People who are worried about having to charge things are forgetting that they already have things in their life that need to be recharged, and at a much higher frequency than how often these batteries need to be charged. If you are the type of person that rarely has a phone run out of battery, then you can manage this just fine.
For my 2x setup, I have mine set up to automatically manage the front derailleur. As I flip through the gears in the rear, it will automatically change the front derailleur to prevent cross chaining and at the same time it shifts the rear derailleur so I'm in a similar gear ratio to what it was before the shift. Its basically like having a 1x derailleur setup. I just shift, it does the rest.
This is really good feedback and an awesome point that we charge our bike computers, phones, headphones and everything else, so it's not a big deal. I'm with you...I don't have to charge for every ride....far from it. I only do full charges when I'm heading out for an overnight or something really big.
This was very informative video. Thanks for taking the time to make the video. Take care, Al
Glad you liked it! Be Good
Thanks for this. I have had the same hesitations about electronic anything on my bikes for the same reasons you mentioned. But I can see it happening soon
So glad this helped ease your mind and hesitations!
Thank you so much for explaining how this works…. Just bought a bike with electric shifter and had so many questions….. you answered them all ! …
Oh that's so great to hear! Glad it helped and congrats on your new electronic shifting!!!
Just got this system and saw your video! I remember you from Rockreation LA way back in the day! Great video.
Just bought my new Stump Jumper with AXS shifting and dropper. Thanks for the tips!!
Enjoy!! Nothing beats new bike day!
Great suggestions and excellent review. I have been very impressed with SRAM AXS for my gravel bike and will soon have that setup on a road bike.
Thanks for watching, Paul!
So awesome to hear you're upgrading the road bike. I love getting rid of the cables.
Thx Rebecca so much...I finally upgraded after 15 yrs and even went to the bike I purchased website and they didn't even have the info on these batteries. You would at least figure that they would..anyway thx for the info. The best 3 things that have happened in all my years of Mtn biking is (1) tubeless tires,(2) electronic shifting and (3) electronic seat post. Have fun and thanks again.
I’m with you on those top three MTB equipment tech upgrades
Thank you very helpful information
Love the vids . So informative
Glad you like them!
The CR2032 battery will last for up to 2 years. You can check if you have enough charge manually by watching the green light flash when you move the shifter lever. However, it's easy to forget to check the shifter charge, and I've been caught out on rides twice with the shifter battery finally dying. Now I install new CR2032 batteries in each shifter during my January annual bike maintenance. You can carry a spare CR2032 w/you (very easy to do), BUT you have to be sure you'll be able to get the battery cover off, which on some SRAM models required a very tiny screwdriver, on others just a quarter coin will do, but either way, you'll need a tool to make the change. Just having the battery is not enough.
A question I have is about what's the best strategy for rotating batteries when charging them (FD gets charged and placed on RD, and vice versa?), is it best to run the battery charge all the way to zero before charging? Or OK to go halfway and then charge? Or always charge to full after each ride?
Thanks for the great video. The SRAM App is fantastic. very handy for micro-adjustment. By the way, what kind of saddle roll bag was used in the video?
Thanks and glad it was helpful for you! yes the SRAM app is great! The seat bag is the Revelate Designs Shrew www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/seat-bags/Shrew
Love your outfit ❤
SRAM FORCE E-TAP AXS is my shifter i took battery off charged it when i insert it back on i see the green light go on, but i can't shift at all now even with the battery appearing to be fully charged. any thoughts on what to try for this?
if the only option is a new battery (and maybe this is it but i don't use the bike crazy and have only recharged the thing perhaps 10x ever) is it expensive? if it is more then the battery i have owned the bike approx 2 years would this be out of warranty>
Sounds like either you need to re-pair the shifter with the derailleur, OR the shifter battery might be dead. SRAM has a great youtube videos to help with both of these things. Don't worry, it's not hard to re-pair or swap the shifter battery!
@@RebeccaRusch hey there thanks so much for the post i was in a panic last night as i go out for the ride after charging and nothing happens! so i was so torn up about it as i had to ride in the hardest gear. I have since educated myself that you can double tap the ax button on rear derailer and it will shift up, or single tap to shift down!
Anyways you are correct the left shifter despite the app saying the battery is ok (misleading) was dead i replaced the battery in the unit and its all working again! thanks so much for replying though its good to know there's folks out there that like helping out others!
I had no idea until I started researching that these shifters even had batteries!!
@@dreaderus oh good! So happy I could help! The same thing happened to me out in the wild and I didn't know about the shifter batteries until it happened to me and I texted my mechanic from the woods! now I carry a small round battery for those in my basic bike toolkit so I always have a spare. They last forever, but at least I have one just in case. I wrap it in tape so it is protected in my toolkit. Happy trails.
I always pair the AXS when I've replaced the CR2032 coin batteries in the shifters, I also pair the system if the RD or FD aren't working after being charged
Good information. What’s your thoughts on aftermarket non SRAM axs batteries. They are 1/3 the cost of actual SRAM.
You know. I haven't actually tried those!
Does the battery last 25 hours of shifting or 25 hours once it’s off the charger?
25 hrs of shifting!!!!
"I do really long rides". Even that is an understatement😅
Sometimes I do short rides too...
I charge batteries after every ride. Probably not good for the batteries but they’re still going okay after 15,000km
I'm not that diligent about charging after every ride and have never had an issue...they're unbelievably long lasting and durable!
So one battery weighs 24 ounces or 24 grams?
She definitely meant to say 24 grams. It kind of shows you how strong Rebecca really is when she doesn't even think about weight. If I didn't know how badass Rebecca was from knowing about her before I watch this video, I would have dismissed anything further she had to say. She definitely knows what she's talking about
Another tip for you guys, sometime the SRAM battery refuses to charge, it stay in RED LED light. So what you do is tap the battery a few times as in connect the battery and disconnect the battery in the charger a few times, it can goes up to maybe 10 times or more or sometimes less. So it goes like when the Red comes On you pull it slanted and its Off, so it's On/Off, On/Off until you get the Orange LED and you know it is charging.
This type of thing happen when the battery is fully flat and you forgot to charge it for months or weeks.
I must be unlucky. I’ve been stranded twice with AXS. Light was green last night. By ride time the next day, battery was 100% dead. Maybe I have a bad battery.
I think you mean it weighs 24g, not 24 oz (which would be 1.5 pounds!).
HA! SO TRUE and thank you for the correction! I never was good at math!
Haha
I am currently using AXS on Adriatic to Baltic XC route 2600km. I have had the bike up to the top of the tyres in water and mud. I have three batteries plus the charger ( packed away ) I can do 8 days maybe depending on gear shifts. I used it on North Cape 4000 race too. It’s awesome and has never let me down. It’s so easy to swap gear and your do not get numb hands by endlessly switching gear up and down. Effortless.
It was recommended to me by Pro riders so I switched and it’s not been a problem ever. It’s my number one piece of kit less my SPOT GPS satellite tracker . Yes you do have to check how much battery power you have but if you can’t be bothered then your fundamental issue isn’t bikes it’s because your lazy by nature.
HA! This is great feedback and I'm with you...AXS far exceeded my expectations with battery life! And the spares are so light it's not a big deal to have one in your repair kit. So cool you're doing such long stuff with these and no issues!
I finished the off road route just a few days ago. First person to do it North to South. Weather in Slovenia was atrocious and TCR rides had trouble in storm on safe passage. 15cm rainfall for days. I was fine and the AXS was again faultless. If it ever went wrong I would likely be stuffed but it never has. Totally in love with it. Helps my hands and fingers too as I must have done 12,000 shifts in that 27 days ( and 2 hours )……. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED for any endurance. Maybe on hard MTB downhill stuff I wouldn’t as the likely hood of destroying it with accidents and falls, rocks bashing it maybe but everyone else will benefit.
Are you sure the batteries weigh 24 oz?
24 GRAMS! Was a slip up and we put text copy over what I said...but yeah, good catch. They are extremely light!
battery weight is 24 GRAMS not Ounces.
😂 thanks for the update. Whoops
26 ounces?
Thank you. But I will stick with my mechanical SRAM and Shimano
To each their own! I still use my mechanical stuff in the winter on my expeditions.
battery weighs 24 oz ?????? Yikes that is 1.5 pounds per battery !!!!
ha ha! nope! my mistake in filming. 24 grams!
24 ounces?? I don't think so.
GRAMS!! Yes that was a slip up and so many people have corrected me! Sorry about that!
24 oz. 😂😂😂
yeah no one is perfect! made that mistake in the audio but put the correct weight in the graphic...my bad!