Man this is getting hilarious at this point every Archon release is the same story like some of the people in the genshin community really have yet to fully develop their brains....Why do u need to doom post when after her release everyone and their grandma are going to give praises like it has happened every single freaking time....She is going to be the first dedicated DPS archon how can people not get exited is beyond me, we just got an insane support Xilonen.
Remember ppl said Furina only works with FT characters and she had the worst archon kits? Have you ever seen ppl who complain about Furina kits after her release? Cannot wait for Snezanaya when ppl will complain Tsaritsa only works with Snezanaya characters.
@@AdroSlice And before her we had Yoimiya ...and before her we had Hu Tao.... and before her we had Diluc so what's the point here????? just play or pull for the character if they have a fun gameplay that's it this isn't some rocket science just a video game🤣🤣
Nah having off field pyro without relying on burst is already a big win. Xiangling is so ass to play. And i haven’t been relying on bennett’s atk buff for a very long time now. You can clear content without it, i’d rather not be restricted to circle impact lol. Off field pyro on skill with cinder city sounds pretty good to me.
Congrats, you now have your unit that is handier than a 4* from 1.0. And it has to be an archon. I personally didn’t wait for her and putted Raiden’s weapon in Xiangling years ago. Getting a unit that do more damage will just shorter my abyss’s rotation from 1min to 55 seconds. Let’s celebrate…
But she can't replace xiangling. Mavuika directly depends on having natlan teammates, xilonen in particular, and she doesnt apply nearly as much pyro as xiangling.
Since all Natlan characters need each others to function optimally, I'm starting to think about skipping the whole region. I already got Xilonen which is a good as universal support and for exploration, but I may use the 5.x version to pull for constellations on rerolls. I think the natlan meta is made for new players, which is kinda sad.
Good for you I guess, I like all the design especially kinich, chasca and mavuika so I am gonna go for them, also finally some exploration ability that is actually good
@@reynerestebanb.h4014 Its not about the numbers, "She's bad because instead of killing a hilichurl in 2 seconds its 3". Its about the fun factor, how much fun is it to you to one shot everything in .5 seconds and just stand there waiting for respawn times? You're paying to not play the game.
you can completely ignore ER as a a stat AAAAND you can run the scrolls set. Mavuika is just better than XL Also XL fast pyro application is NOT wanted in burgeon teams because she eats up the hydro aura too fast
I'm super happy with an op dps archon. Was about time. Also all the comments about not powercreeping xiangling are quite funny. She hits way harder and has zero energy issues. She will find uses outside of Furina jail. Right now it's Furina impact so it's about time we figure out some alternative teams. Natlan is still young so the future her will be even more amazing. I have a feeling most of this angst comes from all the people feeling their precious arlecchino and hu tao lost their shine. I have both c1 but don't give a damn, welcome to these evil gacha games. Time to wake up from your silly dreams of Hoyo looking out and wanting the best for you.
Honestly, I agree. Xiangling is amazing but having an easier access to dmg from a skill press is sm better. Mavuika is really the convenience archon despite having that slight Natlan character reliance
Also the Hutao and Arlecchino stuff you said is so true. Like I personally love playing Hutao more cause I find she’s more fun but I love Arle’s dmg output while liking her playstyle slightly less than Hutaos
i mean, the problem is that arlecchino was released like 6 months ago XD hu tao is understandable to be powercrept, it's been ages since she came out (she has been powercrept by arlecchino already technically) and we have wayyy too much pyro dps nobody asked for, that's the problem with mavuika, we only need 2 slots for DPS, and 6 for support characters, and it's annoying mavuika as a dps she is not even gonna have 100% synergy with all natlan characters, only the ones that will SUPPORT her, rather than the other way around :/ as for xianling... i mean, what's the problem powercreeping a character older than hu tao and arlecchino? and a 4* on top of all that. her biggest flaw is her ER issues, so that makes her too locked in teams that revolve around said issues, if you think about it, she is just another dps, but off field 💀
@@KiwiiLoka We need her to be a DPS it doesn't matter if we have a ton of Pyro DPS. Like when is the last time we gotten a DPS archon? They can just buff the supports stuff and still maintaining her on field too
the cycles are always the same : drip release > most player dislike > archon OP > everybody's waiting for her rerun. i just copy paste from some comments
@@maddasher8471I'd much rather wait for capitano than get another pyro dps who isn't that good without xilonen. If anyone who has arlecchino will benefit more by pulling for citlali.
Lol to be honest Mavuika look like good in burgeon triggered + she from Natlan, Mavuika can use OP set "Scroll of Heroes" that gives 40% Elemental DMG bonus. Mavuika can use EM build + Cinder city set If you use her in DPS she quite good too, she can burst in every rotation with Xilonen.
@@tubin_hg IFA is the rumor pyro unit in Natlan, I don't think he was DPS but don't assume Capitano will be playable, just saying. You will definitely cry if Capitano will died
Boi she can do gazillion damage for all I care, other archons are OP because they're very universal and can work with multiple team, this piece of shit only work very well in a Natlan team, not only it's very unfriendly with other team by being niche, being only a Damage unit will make her getting powercrept really fucking easy. Since damage is all she has. And how many damage pyro unit we already have ? Quite a fucking lot. If counting on in Natlan, she's not even uniquely strong, Xilonen is a very universal support that can literally do everything, because of that, I expect the damn archon to be even better than that, but look at this crap
since you compare the bonus shred of xilonen , kazuha and citlali. these 3 have different role instead of being a debuffer. Xilonen can debuff longer plus heal, Kazuha can debuff also plus CC, and for Citlali , she's a shielder/debuffer and applies cryo for pyro dps to MELT and do more dmg. She's basically a best support for forward melt comps
For me at least, She needs to be a Main DPS since she IS the god of war and we have gotten DPS archon since Raiden even if we have a ton of main dps pyro. I do agree they can make her off field and buffs better but her on field stuff should be the main focus.
This pretty much solidifies it for me. I'm pulling for Arlecchino instead. The only QoL that Mavuika will bring is mobility and a different main DPS playstyle if you don't like Arlecchino.
I wanted a 5-star Bennett (without circle impact) for a long time. I first thought Dehya might be the one; when I realised that wasn't the case, I immediately thought the pyro archon _must be_ it. So 'disappointed' is putting it really mildly. She may be the 'strongest' pyro dps, but when even the old one like Hu Tao is still good enough, why do I want just another pyro dps (I already have loads of them)? As it is, I'll probably pick her up on rerun eventually (for the collection) but for now, I'm going to go for Citlali who seems to be lot more interesting & useful for my account (Did I tell you I already have _loads_ of pyro dps? _They_ will definitely appreciate the cryo support/buffer/sub dps).
They probably could've done a def reduction percent instead of dmg percent tbh, therefore making her useful in every type of team that needs pyro, basically making her become pela in genshin like a 40% def ignore when you have 200 energy points stacks
I think your opinion is very fair and balanced. The fact that you looked past her power creep to state she isn't needed if you have Arlecchino and don't plan to vertically invest. The fact that you recognized her pull value can be low in many scenarios. The fact you stated she's broken, but may not be worth pulling anyway. Bravo. Seriously. Very open-minded.
@@yoiko89Ahem God of Wisdom is a child, Furina only works with FT dps. Every archon,every boss theme, every character,every nation,there is always those ppl.And then there is also ppl with title" I was wrong about X character''after X character is released...
I think Ciatali is gonna be really good. She's like a 5 star Chev/ oronon. It's good when they buff certain reactions or not used comps with a character focused on it.
This is both a relief and a disappointment. Like, I’m able to save primos, and her design just didn’t hit it for me, so I’m quite grateful. But dang, what a missed opportunity to sidegrade/replace Bennett or Xiangling.
Bro said as a main-dps and sub dps/support in one character she has low pull value... You can't make this up. It's one thing that she doesn't bring anything new to the game but to say she's low pull value when she's 3 characters in one is quite funny.
If you make her DPs you need Xilonen. If you make her support she can't use her burst (You can just use her as Burgeon Triggered + Cinder city) She is low value if you don't have Natlan character or you need C1 at least she function.
@@yoiko89 Luckily, you can get Xilonen on her rerun considering she's one of the best characters in game. The fact that she's already a Dehya Pro Max that can use cinder city and buff with her passive is enough of a reason to use her as a sub dps/support. The only ones affected are new players.
I pulled Casca because she have huge future potential, i already have enough Pyro Charector like Bennett, Xiangling, Hu Tao, Arlechinno, I even have Thoma, i invest so much on thease charector i didn't need any more pyro
NO! DO NOT CHANGE HER PERCENT INTO FLAT DMG!!!! in fact if anything, she should get more to that percent damage if anything. Don't ruin this character for me. She is good already. I do not need another fking Bennett. I need her to be both suport and DPS as she is now.
Ngl.. If pyro traveler works with kinich, I'm skipping mavuika.. 1. I dislike her bike.. 2. I dislike the bike attack animation.. 3. I want male on field dps 4. I want to swap xiangling, but since she cant, i skip
Not going to lie an of field pyro sub dps with zero energy needs, no stolen Bennet uptime for snapshot and a 90% damage buff who's also stronger than Arlechinno as a dps sounds kinda broken...
Hoyoverse give us chance to pull but you just ignore it. Now suffer you can't use Mavuika without Natlan character. All player who has Natlan character we're eating good. With Xilonen, my Mavuika can burst every rotation.
Sad her Pyro application isnt enough on its own.. 🤔 but what IF i run full Support Xiangling + Pyro archon + Kazuha/Xilonen with a Hydro attacker.. would I be able to forward vape every attack?? 👀👀👀
I'm not even going to complain about the kits of Natlan, my problem is the designs. They are all trash. They don't belong in Genshin, they look like taken straight out of ZZZ or some other game and every time I look at them it pisses me off. Where is the warrior nation aesthetic with ANYONE!? This is the worst nation by far.
I'm incredibly disappointed in mavuika tbh. i was so scared she'd be a main dps and boom-- She is a main dps. I feel like there has never been so much riding on an archon being a support as the pyro archon. Really no idea what hoyo is thinking, Pyro main dps is such a crowded position and we just got lyney and arlecchino which are both insane dmg dealers... The only reason i'm thinking about getting her is for my kinich who really needs some other support than dehya or xiangling-- But ideally i would have been able to replace benny instead of dehya cuz man it sucks trying to shoot your canon from bennys circle when your character swings around the field-- x'D I'm more excited for Citlali and Lanyan. I've really been enjoying the niche characters
@@yoiko89I have played forward melt with Diluc + C6 Kaeya for a long time (with Bennett and Xianyun / Kazuha) and I'm quite happy with the setup in terms of damage. The only problem is, Kaeya's burst lasts just 8 seconds and he has no support capabilities unlike Xingqiu or Yelan. So Citlali definitely sounds more interesting. Since Mavuika turned out _not to be_ the Bennett replacement I had hoped, I'll probably skip her and get Citlali instead.
5:33 Mavuika is not buffing Ganyu. She barely improves any of Ganyu's teams. She replaces XL in 80% teams. The remaining 20% is internat and some rev melt teams lol
She can't buff ganyu but she work in ganyu for Melting. Ganyu have issue in Xiangling having need a lot of energy unlike Mavuika you just one Tap skill your ready to use her Off field pyro.
I skipped a lot of DPS and PYRO characters to get Arle and she is a beast. Now we have Mavuika who is also a DPS and PYRO beast. While this may somehow powercreeps father, I'm still pulling coz having a second DPS/Support in the pyro archon will surely help my abyss and IT selections.
Love Mav! I see her as a second Arlo that uses different supports - so it's easy to run one on each side of the abyss. I miss Bronya's bike from Honkai Impact, so I am loving that one is coming to Genshin. Hope we get Honkai Impact's horse too (Durandal Equinox). Also, I like the idea that Mav is a reincarnation of Himiko from Honkai Impact and she really looks the part now with her bike and big sword! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I said ill ship natlan cuz designs suck, didnt expect game actually do that too. The lack of supports, lack of anemo buffer, lack of cryo dps, lack of reruns, fixing artifact transmuters, bad character design, old models, oversexualisation and lack of gender equality makes me wanna skip genshin for good. Not to mention how little there is to do in game
An ARCHON a little better than Xianling that only works with natland characters... the easiest SKIP in history, Venti no longer the worst. Apart from Xilonen support, nobody uses natlan dpss, that's why mavuika comes in, to force the use of the worst characters and expansion in genshin.
She replaces xl in every team aside from maybe neuv vape(still better for neuv overall) and doesnt need second natlan as subdps, and is the best dps in game. But its ok to be wrong.
no, but she has enough app for every char other than neuvilette forward vape, is effortless on E, deals more damage and she has 25-50% decaying buff. No downsides i see.
In support build Mavuika she doesn't need Natlan character. You forgot she also gained Night soul by tap your skill and consuming your Off field pyro application. You can build her with Cinder city + Full EM if you build her Burgeon. If you build her in Kinich team, you just need Deepwood set + Full EM. As of now she doesn't look like have DPS build artifact. Maybe crimson witch since the DPS artifact in Natlan won't work in burst duration. It's like the time when Raiden Shogun beta testing a lot of people, saying she isn't good.
I was honestly expecting Mavuika to have a skill where the Tap is faster with dmg and application, and the hold attacks more slowly but deadly. I feel like her buffs are fine considering her dmg output but a lil disappointing how reliant she is on Natlan supports on and off field. Overall, I would’ve just liked her to be more open with her off field application
Also to add on, I hate how she doesn’t gain any fighting spirit points from charge/plunging atks. Really dampens the potential she had with characters like Lyney and Ganyu without the help of Xilonen to aid them. Just shows how reliant she is on the Natlan characters and etc
Oh i knew it. Not just me who is going to skip natlan. Xilonen was summoned because she has same birthday as me. But design wise? Meh they all worst and hurt the eyes. Citlali much better than any of natlan character. Idk what mihoyo thinking to add that weird cornea in their design or clothing design which not on my cup. Glad natlan is useless, so i can save more for capitano and dainsleif 😂
Citlali is slightly disappointing to me considering she only buffs pyro and hydro. It feels like they just left out electro simply because it’s weird element for cryo to work with as well as the fact its related to physical. I also just wanna say Citlali who scales off EM, could’ve done decent dmg with the recently buffed superconduct reaction if she did stuff for electro dmg. Another thing I wanna add is an old change made in the 5.0 beta to the Cinder Cities artifact set is the fact that it no longer buffs physical dmg. This would’ve been specifically nice for Citlali considering there was a chance for her to work with electro and physical teams. I’m aware physical is weak as a whole but this just would’ve been nice for those who wanna use units with physical dmg potential 🤷🏻
People complain > People Skip > Looser Regreters > People Complain, This game is easy with just a full team of basic 4 stars, pull for the Fun Factor. This "Value to your account" bs needs to stop Its illegal to sell your account anyways so the true value is in how much you enjoy playing said Char not what char makes you play the game less.
I wish she provides atk buff like Bennett. Dmg% nowadays are oversaturated ngl (Furina, Kazuha, some C6 4 stars, artifacts, etc) I’m pulling her anyway bc she’s xiangling alternative but YEAH… I hope they buff her off-field/nuke numbers. We don’t lack pyro onfield dps, we need more pyro sub dps/support 😢. At least player can run atk scaler dps on both side.
Flat ATK buffer like Bennett is not enough. We want a universal flat DMG buffer. I was hoping it would be Mavuika but her current kit is kind of expected as the Archon of the nation of war. I’m still hopium for that universal flat DMG buffer during 5.7 or 5.8 tho
Yeah, I have been saving for Mavuika but now am no longer sure I will pull. Not interested in a pyro dps and so far any support she may offer is underwhelming…. Maybe I will skip her and just keep saving.
More circle impact. Just when I thought mavuika would be a better version or a sidegrade of both Benny and xl. But no, copy paste Nola from tower fantasy with raiden and yelan kit. WOW really hoyoverse
Xilonen- rubbish, Ororon-rubbish, mualani-meh, kachina-rubbish, kinich-notbad, Citlali-meh, Mavuika-Nice, but the phlogiston limitations is the most crucial factor in whether i will pull for Natlan chars even after trying them out in the test run.
I'm more disappointed that her burst ended up using BS mechanic than actual energy, there goes my plan for Mavuika and Raiden overload team. Atleast add a passive that convert energy into BS burst stack ffs
Three ways to gained fighting spirit 1. Natlan character use night soul points or use Mavuika Skill : automatic consume it every 2sec. 2. 12 or 13 Normal attack you gained fighting spirit. 3. Pull c1
The possibility to revitalize the melt meta with Citlali is way more exciting than anything Mavuika has to offer sadly. I will only pull her during her rerun if nothing better shows up and only for the archon collection.
And this is why you people always end up hocked when deapute the "overwhelming" dislike of certain things in genshin, it makes no actual difderence for the numbers that do matter.
It's understandable if she becomes too op then it'll be hard for hoyo to sell future pyro characters without powercreeping. She has her fair shares of pros and cons as she should and will be further optimised through 4 weeks more. As of now i love her bike tbh 😂🫶
Here lies all of my hopes and dreams ☠
Man this is getting hilarious at this point every Archon release is the same story like some of the people in the genshin community really have yet to fully develop their brains....Why do u need to doom post when after her release everyone and their grandma are going to give praises like it has happened every single freaking time....She is going to be the first dedicated DPS archon how can people not get exited is beyond me, we just got an insane support Xilonen.
Remember ppl said Furina only works with FT characters and she had the worst archon kits?
Have you ever seen ppl who complain about Furina kits after her release? Cannot wait for Snezanaya when ppl will complain Tsaritsa only works with Snezanaya characters.
People arent excited because we just got arleccino not too long ago...
you just got an insane Xilonen support. i lost my 50/50. and Mavuika seems to need Xilonen quite a bit.
@@AdroSlice And before her we had Yoimiya ...and before her we had Hu Tao.... and before her we had Diluc so what's the point here????? just play or pull for the character if they have a fun gameplay that's it this isn't some rocket science just a video game🤣🤣
Because it's hard to get excited over 50th on field pyro dps while all we wanted was to be freed from oppa
Nah having off field pyro without relying on burst is already a big win. Xiangling is so ass to play. And i haven’t been relying on bennett’s atk buff for a very long time now. You can clear content without it, i’d rather not be restricted to circle impact lol.
Off field pyro on skill with cinder city sounds pretty good to me.
You can use Mavuika as your own Burgeon triggered Full EM with Scroll of Heroes set.
I couldn't say it better tired of xiangling that needs 1M recharge and always relying on bennet or 3 favs to recharge her ult
Congrats, you now have your unit that is handier than a 4* from 1.0. And it has to be an archon.
I personally didn’t wait for her and putted Raiden’s weapon in Xiangling years ago.
Getting a unit that do more damage will just shorter my abyss’s rotation from 1min to 55 seconds. Let’s celebrate…
@@wmedo59 okay, good for you and have fun! And yes i will celebrate! Finally an off field pyro without dogshit ER requirements.
But she can't replace xiangling. Mavuika directly depends on having natlan teammates, xilonen in particular, and she doesnt apply nearly as much pyro as xiangling.
Since all Natlan characters need each others to function optimally, I'm starting to think about skipping the whole region.
I already got Xilonen which is a good as universal support and for exploration, but I may use the 5.x version to pull for constellations on rerolls.
I think the natlan meta is made for new players, which is kinda sad.
Same lol, I don't even like any of their designs (besides citlani), Snezhnaya, here we come 🫡
Chasca doesn't.
citlani 🤣@@amrradwan1055
Not necessarily needing other natlan (only mualani and mavuika)
Good for you I guess, I like all the design especially kinich, chasca and mavuika so I am gonna go for them, also finally some exploration ability that is actually good
As someone who doesn't have the hydro dragon or "father", the fact that the pyro archon is on par with them is a plus for me 👍🏻
It's ok to have wrong opinion
You hate math right 😂😂😂
@@reynerestebanb.h4014some people just can't handle objective reality.
This comment proves you can’t tell a Genshin fan anything, lol
@@reynerestebanb.h4014 Its not about the numbers, "She's bad because instead of killing a hilichurl in 2 seconds its 3". Its about the fun factor, how much fun is it to you to one shot everything in .5 seconds and just stand there waiting for respawn times? You're paying to not play the game.
It's fine some Genshin player can't read and understand how her kit works.
you can completely ignore ER as a a stat AAAAND you can run the scrolls set. Mavuika is just better than XL
Also XL fast pyro application is NOT wanted in burgeon teams because she eats up the hydro aura too fast
I'm super happy with an op dps archon. Was about time. Also all the comments about not powercreeping xiangling are quite funny. She hits way harder and has zero energy issues. She will find uses outside of Furina jail. Right now it's Furina impact so it's about time we figure out some alternative teams. Natlan is still young so the future her will be even more amazing.
I have a feeling most of this angst comes from all the people feeling their precious arlecchino and hu tao lost their shine. I have both c1 but don't give a damn, welcome to these evil gacha games. Time to wake up from your silly dreams of Hoyo looking out and wanting the best for you.
Honestly, I agree. Xiangling is amazing but having an easier access to dmg from a skill press is sm better. Mavuika is really the convenience archon despite having that slight Natlan character reliance
Also the Hutao and Arlecchino stuff you said is so true. Like I personally love playing Hutao more cause I find she’s more fun but I love Arle’s dmg output while liking her playstyle slightly less than Hutaos
i mean, the problem is that arlecchino was released like 6 months ago XD hu tao is understandable to be powercrept, it's been ages since she came out (she has been powercrept by arlecchino already technically) and we have wayyy too much pyro dps nobody asked for, that's the problem with mavuika, we only need 2 slots for DPS, and 6 for support characters, and it's annoying mavuika as a dps she is not even gonna have 100% synergy with all natlan characters, only the ones that will SUPPORT her, rather than the other way around :/
as for xianling... i mean, what's the problem powercreeping a character older than hu tao and arlecchino? and a 4* on top of all that.
her biggest flaw is her ER issues, so that makes her too locked in teams that revolve around said issues, if you think about it, she is just another dps, but off field 💀
@@KiwiiLoka We need her to be a DPS it doesn't matter if we have a ton of Pyro DPS. Like when is the last time we gotten a DPS archon? They can just buff the supports stuff and still maintaining her on field too
I think Mavuika can use Furina in her vaporize team. But you still need Xilonen in order to burst every rotation.
I think some people forget that some people just don’t want her and are only debating getting her based on what she can provide to our account….
Dude, don't get her then... If you just want your account to be stronger, get cons on characters you actually like.
@@Squashua2727 yep. The ones that don’t like her are louder than those that do. Just let people play the game however they want.
the cycles are always the same :
drip release > most player dislike > archon OP > everybody's waiting for her rerun.
i just copy paste from some comments
just wait and watch all these dogs will come back wagging their tail when they see mavuika showcases
@@maddasher8471I'd much rather wait for capitano than get another pyro dps who isn't that good without xilonen. If anyone who has arlecchino will benefit more by pulling for citlali.
Lol to be honest Mavuika look like good in burgeon triggered + she from Natlan, Mavuika can use OP set "Scroll of Heroes" that gives 40% Elemental DMG bonus. Mavuika can use EM build + Cinder city set
If you use her in DPS she quite good too, she can burst in every rotation with Xilonen.
@@tubin_hg IFA is the rumor pyro unit in Natlan, I don't think he was DPS but don't assume Capitano will be playable, just saying. You will definitely cry if Capitano will died
Boi she can do gazillion damage for all I care, other archons are OP because they're very universal and can work with multiple team, this piece of shit only work very well in a Natlan team, not only it's very unfriendly with other team by being niche, being only a Damage unit will make her getting powercrept really fucking easy. Since damage is all she has. And how many damage pyro unit we already have ? Quite a fucking lot. If counting on in Natlan, she's not even uniquely strong, Xilonen is a very universal support that can literally do everything, because of that, I expect the damn archon to be even better than that, but look at this crap
Giving her an attack instead of a damage pecent buff would be really cool!
Would make her too nieche tho
Attack is easy to get in this game, dmg buff is mostly better
since you compare the bonus shred of xilonen , kazuha and citlali. these 3 have different role instead of being a debuffer. Xilonen can debuff longer plus heal, Kazuha can debuff also plus CC, and for Citlali , she's a shielder/debuffer and applies cryo for pyro dps to MELT and do more dmg. She's basically a best support for forward melt comps
It's really nice to know everyone can have their own opinions, even if those opinions are wrong
they really dont listen to their community we been asking for a xianling powercreep for ages -.-
Next stream:
- Crocodile tears along with how they will listen to the players in the future
- Keep ignoring the players after this again
Sometimes it is better to not listen.
Weren't fans crying over skin colour and representation nonsense.
@@malacoda9421 Agree on that one xD
She powercreeps her in like 90% of teams
For me at least, She needs to be a Main DPS since she IS the god of war and we have gotten DPS archon since Raiden even if we have a ton of main dps pyro. I do agree they can make her off field and buffs better but her on field stuff should be the main focus.
This pretty much solidifies it for me. I'm pulling for Arlecchino instead. The only QoL that Mavuika will bring is mobility and a different main DPS playstyle if you don't like Arlecchino.
I wanted a 5-star Bennett (without circle impact) for a long time. I first thought Dehya might be the one; when I realised that wasn't the case, I immediately thought the pyro archon _must be_ it. So 'disappointed' is putting it really mildly.
She may be the 'strongest' pyro dps, but when even the old one like Hu Tao is still good enough, why do I want just another pyro dps (I already have loads of them)?
As it is, I'll probably pick her up on rerun eventually (for the collection) but for now, I'm going to go for Citlali who seems to be lot more interesting & useful for my account (Did I tell you I already have _loads_ of pyro dps? _They_ will definitely appreciate the cryo support/buffer/sub dps).
They probably could've done a def reduction percent instead of dmg percent tbh, therefore making her useful in every type of team that needs pyro, basically making her become pela in genshin like a 40% def ignore when you have 200 energy points stacks
I think your opinion is very fair and balanced. The fact that you looked past her power creep to state she isn't needed if you have Arlecchino and don't plan to vertically invest. The fact that you recognized her pull value can be low in many scenarios. The fact you stated she's broken, but may not be worth pulling anyway. Bravo. Seriously. Very open-minded.
remember at the end of the day go with what you want guys don't let a video or someone tell you who to pull for or not just go with what you want
Until now, we got archons that could fit in a lot of teams. Mavuika will be strong in only one team, her team. That’s so sad.
It is not the first time someone has called an archon disappointing LOL
Ahem Raiden Shogun same treatment back then
@@yoiko89Ahem God of Wisdom is a child, Furina only works with FT dps. Every archon,every boss theme, every character,every nation,there is always those ppl.And then there is also ppl with title" I was wrong about X character''after X character is released...
I think Ciatali is gonna be really good. She's like a 5 star Chev/ oronon. It's good when they buff certain reactions or not used comps with a character focused on it.
This is both a relief and a disappointment. Like, I’m able to save primos, and her design just didn’t hit it for me, so I’m quite grateful. But dang, what a missed opportunity to sidegrade/replace Bennett or Xiangling.
Tho keeping all these aside ,she's the most beautiful waifu in game and all archons have diff roles it was bound for us to get a DPS archon one day
Bro said as a main-dps and sub dps/support in one character she has low pull value... You can't make this up. It's one thing that she doesn't bring anything new to the game but to say she's low pull value when she's 3 characters in one is quite funny.
If you make her DPs you need Xilonen.
If you make her support she can't use her burst (You can just use her as Burgeon Triggered + Cinder city)
She is low value if you don't have Natlan character or you need C1 at least she function.
@@yoiko89 Luckily, you can get Xilonen on her rerun considering she's one of the best characters in game. The fact that she's already a Dehya Pro Max that can use cinder city and buff with her passive is enough of a reason to use her as a sub dps/support. The only ones affected are new players.
@@yoiko89 You absolutely do not need Xilonen.
I 100% sure if she was a dude, more people would get disappointed with her kit.
I love the Xiangling art you used for her comparison. She looks more mature but not sexualized.
I cant wait for mavuika burgeon or dehya replacement for kinnich teams
Just use full EM Mavuika but you need Deepwood set instead using Cinder city
I pulled Casca because she have huge future potential, i already have enough Pyro Charector like Bennett, Xiangling, Hu Tao, Arlechinno, I even have Thoma, i invest so much on thease charector i didn't need any more pyro
We all know y'all gonna fold the day she drops. Been happening since Raiden Shotgun .
NO! DO NOT CHANGE HER PERCENT INTO FLAT DMG!!!! in fact if anything, she should get more to that percent damage if anything. Don't ruin this character for me. She is good already. I do not need another fking Bennett. I need her to be both suport and DPS as she is now.
Ngl.. If pyro traveler works with kinich, I'm skipping mavuika..
1. I dislike her bike..
2. I dislike the bike attack animation..
3. I want male on field dps
4. I want to swap xiangling, but since she cant, i skip
Have you seen pyro mc leaks
No one cares
I think pyro traveler don't have off field his/her application only apply on self.
Traveler pyro is like Main DPS who infused pyro
Not going to lie an of field pyro sub dps with zero energy needs, no stolen Bennet uptime for snapshot and a 90% damage buff who's also stronger than Arlechinno as a dps sounds kinda broken...
Me too I'm still not sure wether pulling Mavuika 100% or not
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Hoyoverse give us chance to pull but you just ignore it. Now suffer you can't use Mavuika without Natlan character.
All player who has Natlan character we're eating good. With Xilonen, my Mavuika can burst every rotation.
she's not a disappointment but i agree with her buffing atk instead of dmg %
Wouldnt giving mavuika atk buff would make people use both mavuika and bennet on the same team which would make balancing way harder ?
Sad her Pyro application isnt enough on its own.. 🤔 but what IF i run full Support Xiangling + Pyro archon + Kazuha/Xilonen with a Hydro attacker.. would I be able to forward vape every attack?? 👀👀👀
I'm not even going to complain about the kits of Natlan, my problem is the designs.
They are all trash. They don't belong in Genshin, they look like taken straight out of ZZZ or some other game and every time I look at them it pisses me off. Where is the warrior nation aesthetic with ANYONE!?
This is the worst nation by far.
I'm incredibly disappointed in mavuika tbh. i was so scared she'd be a main dps and boom-- She is a main dps. I feel like there has never been so much riding on an archon being a support as the pyro archon. Really no idea what hoyo is thinking, Pyro main dps is such a crowded position and we just got lyney and arlecchino which are both insane dmg dealers... The only reason i'm thinking about getting her is for my kinich who really needs some other support than dehya or xiangling-- But ideally i would have been able to replace benny instead of dehya cuz man it sucks trying to shoot your canon from bennys circle when your character swings around the field-- x'D I'm more excited for Citlali and Lanyan. I've really been enjoying the niche characters
I ask you we have already pyro who like Melt or Forward Melt ?
@@yoiko89I have played forward melt with Diluc + C6 Kaeya for a long time (with Bennett and Xianyun / Kazuha) and I'm quite happy with the setup in terms of damage. The only problem is, Kaeya's burst lasts just 8 seconds and he has no support capabilities unlike Xingqiu or Yelan.
So Citlali definitely sounds more interesting. Since Mavuika turned out _not to be_ the Bennett replacement I had hoped, I'll probably skip her and get Citlali instead.
Idc abt Mavuika, all I wanna know if her weapon is new BiS for C6 Gaming 😋
5:33 Mavuika is not buffing Ganyu. She barely improves any of Ganyu's teams. She replaces XL in 80% teams. The remaining 20% is internat and some rev melt teams lol
She can't buff ganyu but she work in ganyu for Melting. Ganyu have issue in Xiangling having need a lot of energy unlike Mavuika you just one Tap skill your ready to use her Off field pyro.
I skipped a lot of DPS and PYRO characters to get Arle and she is a beast. Now we have Mavuika who is also a DPS and PYRO beast. While this may somehow powercreeps father, I'm still pulling coz having a second DPS/Support in the pyro archon will surely help my abyss and IT selections.
Love Mav! I see her as a second Arlo that uses different supports - so it's easy to run one on each side of the abyss. I miss Bronya's bike from Honkai Impact, so I am loving that one is coming to Genshin. Hope we get Honkai Impact's horse too (Durandal Equinox). Also, I like the idea that Mav is a reincarnation of Himiko from Honkai Impact and she really looks the part now with her bike and big sword! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I said ill ship natlan cuz designs suck, didnt expect game actually do that too.
The lack of supports, lack of anemo buffer, lack of cryo dps, lack of reruns, fixing artifact transmuters, bad character design, old models, oversexualisation and lack of gender equality makes me wanna skip genshin for good. Not to mention how little there is to do in game
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Whatever you are on I need some. There has never been more to do in genshin. And all the new natlan characters are super fun to play
An ARCHON a little better than Xianling that only works with natland characters... the easiest SKIP in history, Venti no longer the worst. Apart from Xilonen support, nobody uses natlan dpss, that's why mavuika comes in, to force the use of the worst characters and expansion in genshin.
She replaces xl in every team aside from maybe neuv vape(still better for neuv overall) and doesnt need second natlan as subdps, and is the best dps in game. But its ok to be wrong.
@@doggypoofy1390 is mavuika pyro app better than xiangling's?
no, but she has enough app for every char other than neuvilette forward vape, is effortless on E, deals more damage and she has 25-50% decaying buff. No downsides i see.
Her best team only needs one Natlan unit...
And Venti is far from the worst Archon.
In support build Mavuika she doesn't need Natlan character. You forgot she also gained Night soul by tap your skill and consuming your Off field pyro application.
You can build her with Cinder city + Full EM if you build her Burgeon.
If you build her in Kinich team, you just need Deepwood set + Full EM.
As of now she doesn't look like have DPS build artifact. Maybe crimson witch since the DPS artifact in Natlan won't work in burst duration.
It's like the time when Raiden Shogun beta testing a lot of people, saying she isn't good.
I was honestly expecting Mavuika to have a skill where the Tap is faster with dmg and application, and the hold attacks more slowly but deadly. I feel like her buffs are fine considering her dmg output but a lil disappointing how reliant she is on Natlan supports on and off field.
Overall, I would’ve just liked her to be more open with her off field application
Also to add on, I hate how she doesn’t gain any fighting spirit points from charge/plunging atks. Really dampens the potential she had with characters like Lyney and Ganyu without the help of Xilonen to aid them. Just shows how reliant she is on the Natlan characters and etc
@@GolfyMalfy in contrary to furina and nahida, she is not even enabling any character that really needed the xiangling upgrade
I love that she's gonna be the new dps ceiling. It just fits.
Oh i knew it. Not just me who is going to skip natlan. Xilonen was summoned because she has same birthday as me. But design wise? Meh they all worst and hurt the eyes. Citlali much better than any of natlan character. Idk what mihoyo thinking to add that weird cornea in their design or clothing design which not on my cup. Glad natlan is useless, so i can save more for capitano and dainsleif 😂
Citlali is slightly disappointing to me considering she only buffs pyro and hydro. It feels like they just left out electro simply because it’s weird element for cryo to work with as well as the fact its related to physical. I also just wanna say Citlali who scales off EM, could’ve done decent dmg with the recently buffed superconduct reaction if she did stuff for electro dmg.
Another thing I wanna add is an old change made in the 5.0 beta to the Cinder Cities artifact set is the fact that it no longer buffs physical dmg. This would’ve been specifically nice for Citlali considering there was a chance for her to work with electro and physical teams.
I’m aware physical is weak as a whole but this just would’ve been nice for those who wanna use units with physical dmg potential 🤷🏻
I’m actually very happy she only supports two elements because I feel like that’s too much and we still have a cryo archon who needs to release
@@nomore8497that’s what I’ve been considering too, plus I’m sure Citlali with the Cryo Archon is gonna be a good comp ^_^
People complain > People Skip > Looser Regreters > People Complain, This game is easy with just a full team of basic 4 stars, pull for the Fun Factor. This "Value to your account" bs needs to stop Its illegal to sell your account anyways so the true value is in how much you enjoy playing said Char not what char makes you play the game less.
I wish she provides atk buff like Bennett. Dmg% nowadays are oversaturated ngl (Furina, Kazuha, some C6 4 stars, artifacts, etc) I’m pulling her anyway bc she’s xiangling alternative but YEAH… I hope they buff her off-field/nuke numbers. We don’t lack pyro onfield dps, we need more pyro sub dps/support 😢. At least player can run atk scaler dps on both side.
Skipping Natlan 🙂
Flat ATK buffer like Bennett is not enough. We want a universal flat DMG buffer. I was hoping it would be Mavuika but her current kit is kind of expected as the Archon of the nation of war. I’m still hopium for that universal flat DMG buffer during 5.7 or 5.8 tho
I was expecting a base atk buffer. She does buff base atk at c2 but it's only for her.
Yeah, I have been saving for Mavuika but now am no longer sure I will pull. Not interested in a pyro dps and so far any support she may offer is underwhelming…. Maybe I will skip her and just keep saving.
More circle impact. Just when I thought mavuika would be a better version or a sidegrade of both Benny and xl. But no, copy paste Nola from tower fantasy with raiden and yelan kit. WOW really hoyoverse
I'm not dissappointed but I did want a support for my favorite characters.
Thank you Pyro MC.
I think
Not only are all the natlan character designs so disappointing but also their kits it’s annoying
These have actually been my favorite characters by far
thank you very much for the open-minded thought. don't mind most comments, they are usually on the dimmer side of life.
Xilonen, Ororon, and potentially Citlali are the only relaible supports and off-fielders in Natlan.
Yeah, because they're the only support from Natlan at this point, everyone is a Main DPS.
Xilonen- rubbish, Ororon-rubbish, mualani-meh, kachina-rubbish, kinich-notbad, Citlali-meh, Mavuika-Nice, but the phlogiston limitations is the most crucial factor in whether i will pull for Natlan chars even after trying them out in the test run.
Found the dislike button
well muvikA make your actt easier by giveing you big pp dmg lol
I'm more disappointed that her burst ended up using BS mechanic than actual energy, there goes my plan for Mavuika and Raiden overload team.
Atleast add a passive that convert energy into BS burst stack ffs
She builds burst stacks via NA too even if she's off field..
Three ways to gained fighting spirit
1. Natlan character use night soul points or use Mavuika Skill : automatic consume it every 2sec.
2. 12 or 13 Normal attack you gained fighting spirit.
3. Pull c1
God forbid the actualy innovate. How dare they??? /s
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The possibility to revitalize the melt meta with Citlali is way more exciting than anything Mavuika has to offer sadly. I will only pull her during her rerun if nothing better shows up and only for the archon collection.
Im worried. 😢
At least Chasca is amazing!!
Well she's only human after all
First time here but I saw your video after 53 seconds.
I just typed : "mavuika disappoint" on search bar, so I guess I'm at the right place.
And this is why you people always end up hocked when deapute the "overwhelming" dislike of certain things in genshin, it makes no actual difderence for the numbers that do matter.
It's understandable if she becomes too op then it'll be hard for hoyo to sell future pyro characters without powercreeping. She has her fair shares of pros and cons as she should and will be further optimised through 4 weeks more. As of now i love her bike tbh 😂🫶