TOA P3 Wardens skulls new "spam skip" tech
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
- www.twitch.tv/inn_bread
With a non-melee weapon equipped, stand on any tile I have marked on the left or right. Spam click a skull at least 2 tiles away inwards, and you will perfectly skip over the explosion once the skull disappears
This works with any non-melee weapon, as long as the skull you're clicking is in range. Note that for 3rd/4th skulls you need to dodge boulders. Just wait for the boulder to trigger then go into position and start spam clicking
This method is a significant improvement over the previous skull skip method - no timing, no precise clicks, and no real chance of failure. No risk, high reward
Why skip skulls at all? Successfully doing skulls in P3 damages the boss, but doesn't give points. If you fail to do so, you'd normally get hit for massive damage, and in most cases die. Instead, you can mitigate this damage with a skull skip so you can deal the damage yourself, resulting in approx. 5% more points per raid. This is worth doing because Warden P3/P4 have very high point multipliers, so you want to generate as much points as possible on P3/P4
Ground markers: pastebin.com/AP3KPATP
Shoutout to my day 1 homies Yo G and BlumKFN
By popular request, here are the ground markers: pastebin.com/AP3KPATP
To import, copy entire text to clipboard, then right click your world map icon in-game and import
You can set shift left click or normal left click to examine on the skulls with the entry swapper plugin. So it even works when you have for example the keris in your hands.
Saw this video pop in my reccomend like 4 times already. Good work the algorithm loves you.
Im the same way. Its only a matter of time until you give in and watch.
Thank you for this, I plan on always doing this every solo now, thank you very much. Gonna try n get my team on this wave.
Dude, I genuinely did not believe this would work. Did it first try. Doing this every time now. Thanks man!
bro, this is absolute genius. gonna start using this every raid!
finally a method where i can do it consistent, thank you!
im trying to learn insanity but my clicks are shit and keep missing skulls, this is such a life saver
Thanks for sharing this method! Got it first try and will be doing it on all solos. Near-tick perfect skulls was my only weakness on insanity
Thank you so much for this. I’m anxious to use this, this deserves a sub like and comment. Hopefully it doesn’t get patched.
far easier than normal skulls, which were the only thing stopping me from doing insanity consistently. This is BEYOND a game changer.
Oh wow it works a treat. I hope this doesn't get patched, makes insanity way more consistent :D
you are a genius thank you
Thanks for this, finally going to start learning to solo ToA soon and this is going to be a big help when I turn it up to insanity
If learning insanity you should probably start by just doing the skulls regularly. These kind of skull skip strats are just for getting extra points in the raid, duo to forcing you to do more damage on the warden.
@@ross8824 That's my opinion of the original skull skip, but this method is different. It has no chance of failure AND is efficient for points. I see no reason to even try doing regular skulls if this method exists, because you can still fail skulls regularly, whereas with this it's really hard to die to skulls
This method is broken because it completely mitigates the risk of doing skulls at all
@@Inn_Bread yeah this. Going to enjoy this while it lasts lmao
@@Inn_Bread it can be slightly Sketchy once baba boulders & zebak attacks are coming in aswell, you may need to Just eat a hit to ensure you dont screw yourself on the timing. But yeah overall fairly low Risk
@@rickpijnenburg5391 you can check my twitch vods for how I deal with Zebak/Baba during the skip, after a few attempts you should get a feel for the windows where you dodge and pray switch
Helped a lot, thanks
appreciate this 1 king
Thanks, gonna go into entry mode and try this.
Yo G here - GZ on your feature on Chronicles :D
that's really neat! Thanks for sharing!
so simple yet so genius
does this have to be done with staff, or could i use like my acb?
how do u do it on last skulls with boulders? if u can uplaod a clip[ of those
What plugin are you using to highlight interactions?
Woow thank you for that, you're so amazing mister sandwich
Actually massive. I've been putting off Insanity but may just try this out
i've been doing it by visualy timing it for month! I can now turn off my brain and close my eyes! This now is so easy and makes so much sense it's so dumb reeeeeee.
This actually is cracked lowkey, thanks for the free points
camelstanding theorycrafting gang, verruckt was there when the game changed
Dang. I might actually start skull skipping now
How do you have the lines under your inventory?
This seems relatively simple, make sure skull is in range when you are standing on these select tiles, spam click with non melee, and when the skulls dissappear you just run to middle because you are clicking there, ill be sure to try this later!
This is fucking sick, thank you so much
This is wild.
does this only work with the insanity invo on? I tried it during a raid without insanity and it kept failing. Not sure why tho.
Plenty of people have told me it works even without Insanity, so you're probably doing it wrong
Is it required to be on the same line as the skull you're spam clicking?
No, you just need the farthest dimension to be inwards rather than up/down. Your character will prioritize the inwards travel before the up/down if it's farther
How do you make the boss hp bar so short? Its such an annoying overlay cause its always huge
in general game settings, search "health"
I haven't tried this method yet, but my future self has, and it worked perfectly! Thanks for the tip =)
Do this work with sang staff ? Doesn’t matter what staff you use right ?
any non-melee weapon, check description for full explanation
How do you get the hp bar at the top so small or am I just high?
in your general game settings, search "health" and you can modify your health overlay in a couple ways, including size
What are the chances of the staff killing the skull? Does it need to be timed at all like wait a few seconds before hitting with staff?
I don't think you can kill skull without melee
it's impossible to kill a skull with a non-melee weapon, this method requires no timing aside from dodging boulders on the 3rd/4th skull
@@Inn_Bread does this method gain more points than killing 3 skulls and leaving one for the skip?
@@jammy077 no it doesn't, that method is just safer Incase you mess up the skip.
@@jammy077 The only reason to kill some skulls is in case of failure. This method has no chance to fail so killing any skulls is just wasted effort and increases chance to misclick
goated .. thank you
Does this work with insanity on?
could you please post your invocations? i was looking at your vod on twitch hoping to find them but no luck =x
here are my casual 420 invocations + gear setup, I average 32-33 min with this, about 1/10 purple chance with 3 down and skull skip
imgur.com/a/NV8CBcA
Wassup bread, on to the 8th pet ! - Twizz
thanks
does this work even without insanity?
How does your client show the tiles in the floor. I have mine on the highest quality and I can't ever make it do that
not exactly sure what you mean, but in my 117 HD settings I have "Ground Blending" turned off so I can see tiles better
@@Inn_Bread I've been looking for this setting for so long. You're a lifesaver
(Edit: Unfortunately I still can't see individual ground tiles without hovering over it.)
perfect skip strat
does this work in duos?
how did you make your inventory larger on resizable mode
Stretched Mode plugin
How do you know exactly when to start spam click the skull?
there's no timing, you just have to be clicking while it explodes so that you click the ground once it disappears
also you have to be wary of boulders dropping on you
@@Inn_Bread Awesome, thanks so much!
what are the numbered tiles for?
Those were the tiles I prefer to start on for skulls when I do them normally. I only do this to heal with keris by killing skulls
Does it only work with shadow staff ??
any non-melee weapon, check description for full explanation
would this work with any non melee weapon? Tbow?
nevermind i see the description
ez thanks man!
what if you have a 7 distance staff?
read the description
Lets say you average 2.5% purple rate per raid.
How much does it go up if you do this skull skip?
Depends on your invos but likely somewhere between 4.5-5.5% more points. I get 5% more at 425 w/ WTP + Pathseeker
It gives about 0.25% more purple at 400 about from 8.75 to 9%
This doesnt work with the shadow staff, whenever i try to spam click the skull far away on the other side it drags my player out and i get one shot by the skulls
You're pulling in because of weapon range. Either change your attack style to Long Range or click a closer skull
Any chance of killing skull and moving early? Or does the shadow just never kill it?
impossible to kill a skull with a non-melee weapon
Does this work with other weapons beside the shadow? Thank you.
yes any non-melee weapon
@@vomma8466 ty
Does this work in groups aswell?
If everyone does it, can’t see why not
Does this still work
Has anyone tried this in duos or more people? I imagine you have to spam click for a good while longer in them. Is it even worth it in that case?
This method is useful because the timing is much tighter in solos. That isn't the case in duo+, so its not as useful.
I'm sure you could do it with any amount of players, but even with insanity turned on, you have so much time in groups that it would probably be way faster to just hit the skulls.
@@stevieoneder8091 for people who are already good at skull phase this method is not actually for that. You get extra points when you don’t kill at least one of the skulls. Its because when you destroy all of the skulls they damage warden for 100hp, but if u skip a skull it doesnt do that damage. You don’t get points off the damage the skulls deal to warden, so skull skipping gives warden more hp that you can get points from.
woah almost🎉 free 50points now
I think it's probably just easier long term to learn the timing and just click.when you see the explosion. I think it's easier to avoid kephri/baba bombs by getting familiar with the timing.
The timing on the skull explosions is the exact same every time, so you get pretty familiar after a few attempts. I’ve done it for 50+ raids and haven’t been hit by a boulder for a while, you can check my latest twitch vod to see how I deal with boulders
I don’t recommend doing it the normal way simply because it has a chance of failure
can this be done with tbow aswell?
description
@@Inn_Bread oh, ty
thanks for teaching about skip can u please give me the tiles
pastebin.com/AP3KPATP
Nice find, ill probably start doing this after killing all but 1 skull. That way if I fuck up it's not the end of the raid.
The main benefit of doing this over the other skull method is that there's no chance of failure. The timing is never off (unless there are network/server issues?)
Personally I think killing all but 1 skull is just a waste of clicks and increases your chance of failure, which is counterproductive
@@Inn_Bread Gotta mitigate against Jagex's server quality. Haha.
@@EnlightenedOne90 To be fair, if the servers are going to shit, you're probably going to die while killing skulls + reposiitoning for the skip anyway
I always died on 4th round of skull. I spam on middle one and I died. I wore shadow. I dont understand what is going on. I followed everything i see what you did.
@2tick rick help me understand pleasem
Do you have a clip or something? Can't tell you what's wrong without an explanation or seeing it. It's a very simple tech that's hard to fuck up
1. Are you dying to boulders or praying incorrectly while waiting for the skulls to explode?
2. Are you spam clicking until after the skull explodes, so that you actually walk after?
3. Are the dimensions between you and the skull you're clicking correct? Remember you need to move at least two tiles inwards on the first tick if you're using these markers
looks like you need to be on longrange. I'm trying it on my 1 def account but it keeps getting dragged out of position. Range on ZCB/Trident is same as shadow, but I don't want to put it on long range ofc, and I see you're getting def exp.
pretty sure you can spam click the close range skulls you only need to run 2 tiles to skullskip
You literally only need to move 2 tiles, click a closer skull
You could prob take off your ammo and it’d do the same
@@jaredperry8954 While I'm sure this works, I don't see the point of doing it. Just click a closer skull
@@Inn_Bread thanks both - this did work, I thought was the exact skulls in the vid but yeah thanks.
It's also great for more unique % becuase you do more damage and get more points
damn i did it first try tyvm
Not patched or anything?
@@darthchowder2023 nope, dont imagine it ever will be.
@@adamburke5397 Dude, im already pulling more purples haha this is great.
@@darthchowder2023 right?! i know its only 4.5% at 400 invo but man i got a b2b, b3b, and another b2b within about 50 kc. insane
i see this guy in w361 all the time getting his gear out the chest after a wipe... cool vid tho
Insanity free in 2023 lfg
Is this not a net loss because you are missing out on 3-4 attacks worth of dmg (100) by not killing the skulls?
read the description
how long till this gets patched?
idk let me call mod ash
To anyone that was like me and didn't fully understand the purpose of this: All this is doing, is making your character run over the tile shockwave made by the skulls going boom. Although it makes the skull phase much less tedious, without having to kill each one anymore, it still can be harder to pull off with timings depending on if you have the invocation 'Insanity" and all the other warden invocations too. IMO Insanity makes this method much easier to pull off, as you are spending less time having to watch any overhead prayer switches and also your health. After trying to test it out on an Entry mode, I ended up taking more damage than I normally would, simply because I didn't understand the timing of when the skull would explode.
TL;DR: Just put all the warden invocations on and do this method, it works the best with the warden invocations and ironically is harder to pull off in a 0 invocation Entry raid. Attack a skull within range and preferably on the same horizontal tile line as you are. You should expect a solid skip! Good luck nubs
excuse me LOL
Bug abuse?
Not really a bug, just using game mechanics to our advantage
1. Mage/ranged weapons can't break skulls, this is intended
2. You can run over the explosion the tick after the skulls explode, given the right positioning. This is intended, people have been doing it for months
3. You can spam click something to ensure you do an action the moment it's available, this has never been an issue
wadafak how lool
You can't attack skulls with non melee weapons and keep clicking them will allow you to move when the clickbox dissapear
@@Zehiret as in how does it make the skulls just go back, its a bug right? gonna get patched?
@@ExtremeMith5 they have a limit time to be destroyed, if you don't destroy them at time just explode and return to the boss but he doesn't suffer damage and that means more points for the raid
@@Zehiret I see thx
The ground AOE that kills you when you fail skulls doesn't hit every square at once. It hits all the tiles in the center of the room in one tick, then all the tiles in the outside edges in the next. If you cross over that boundary at the exact right tick, then, you take no damage. This is a method of consistently timing that run.
good tech but god damn thats the ugliest inventory i've ever seen
won't disagree with you, though i did change it (you can see the current setup in my twitch vods). It works for me, especially the colours are extremely useful
Remember that killing the skulls does dmg to the boss as well. This skip might result in less dps.
But that damage doesn’t count for you so it doesn’t increase your points. Doing the skip let’s you do that damage yourself which will increase your points.
it got patched on thursday
Edit: Clanmate confirmed that it still works as of 3pm EST Feb 2
Thursday as in today? Can anyone else verify? I don't see any mention
what got patched, its not a bug, its just abusing broken game mechanics like tile skipping. most of the end game content involves tile skipping or prayer flicking. Both obviously bugs, and both obviously accepted and used as difficulty tools.
Can you do this skip with the BofA?
@@drummerjeff92 any non-melee weapon
@@Inn_Bread i used it 5mins ago, still works
Eh, bit pointless trick. You miss out massive blow to warden.
1. Completely mitigates risk of doing skulls
2. Allows you to gain additional points and is time efficient
Yes very pointless
Yeah didn’t work for me may 16 2023, must be patched
still works, you're doing it wrong