MRS Tree Climbing, Self Tending Closed Hitch System
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Today we go over how to make a Self Tending Closed Hitch System. enjoy!
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I've been doing tree work for over 20 years now. I climbed for 11, then ended up with a bucket truck.... I gained like 120 Lbs since then. I've recently started climbing again, but man its tough learning new tricks. I feel like this may help me get back into it and lose some much needed weight. Thanks for the video. My co-worker Dylan is trying to help me, so I sent this to him. Wish me luck lol
Cool you can do it, Good luck!
You might try using a foot ascender if you have a kernmantle rope. It can help on your ascents. Take care!
My Office buys everybody the tachyon ash. What hits would you recommend so that the knot doesn't slip like you spoke of? I used to use the taughtline. I tried the VT, but I don't think I like it..
*hitch
@@rickyvonbergenjr7975 Sometimes adding an extra wrap may help or find the hitch that works well for you. We have a play list of climbing hitches you may find one you like best.
There’s a book called plant paradox that helped me lose a lot of weight without trying very hard. Premise is simple: just like tigers and bears will evolve bigger claws and Become faster so that they reproduce. Plants will also evolve mild toxins and so they are less likely to be eaten. I switched from brown rice and whole grains to white rice and largely avoided alcohol and wheat. Lost about 30lbs over a year. Ate as much as I wanted. I know everybody is different, but I thought it was worth sharing.
Best of luck man!
you are genuinely the best instructor on youtube, between actually showing the techniques along with the camera work on top of your ability to explain, you are unmatched. thank you for taking the time and effort to explain what you know.
Wow, thanks!
I’m 52, and have been climb for many years, with some long gaps between. I’m checking out some new tricks and this is what I was looking for. Great video. Thanks!
True the new stuff compared to a taught line hitch and a bench seat saddle is awesome. Take care!
@@BinoH Ken Palmer showed me the Blake in 1995. I attended some Arbormaster training and did a lot of jamboree stuff, then didn't climb much for years. I'm getting back into it, and adding some new techniques. I'd love to order a Notch Jet Step, but don't want to get into mechanical devices in place of a knot. I still hip thrust a lot, but this system here looks like I can combine some new things. My legs can help me advance, and this will tend my slack. Together, this will help me rope climb, especially when I use a throw bag to set a line, instead of climbing up the backside of the tree's lean. Great vids. We even have the same saddle!
Great tip! Could have used this before i finally sorted out the floating prussik. This is much simpler and should make quicker advancement to new anchor points. Thank you
Thank you, that Floating Prussik is a good technique too! Take care!
I am extremely glad to find this ingenious never would have came up with it on my own but I learned on a Blake’s hitch and trying to tend my slack was a funny sight to see. This will be a great I may just finally be able to take the Samson true blue out of the truck
I'm glad you like it. Thank you!
Your videos are like my favorite movies! I like to watch them multiple times and each time I pick up on something that I missed previously. Thanks Bino!
Wow, thank you!
Used today with an Alpine Butterfly. Worked pretty well. Definitely good advice concerning running hitches.
Glad to hear it worked well. I first started using the butterfly but it did'nt hold the carabiner in place so I felt the a mid line clove hitch was safer. Thank you!
thanks for this, it has made hip thrusting so much easier!
Great to hear, Take care!
completely transformed my climbing, saved me a ton of time and energy, so much more efficient now!!!! who needs a zigzag lol.....thx mate
Nice, you're welcome take care!
Bino must be your tree in your yard. Good looking tree.
Sure is a nice tree it's a Holly Oak. It's not mine though. take care!
Thank you for making my job easier 😊👍🏼
You're welcome!
Awesome, mate! Been wondering if there was a tending technique for MRS for a while. Hadn't come across any till now. Did you come up with this idea? Appreciate the effort.
Cheers, from AUS 👍
Thank you!
Wow bino your amazing ! I’ve been in tree work for over 20 years and I’ve seen the Blake to Blake and double taught line. And then you come around with what we already have adding a clove hitch you’re super awesome thank you for being in exceptional addition to tree workers around the world like myself who appreciate you putting together a great video to help us learn more to enhance our work ethics in our industry..
Thank you Joe
very thank you for this video, so match for low budget like me, I'm on training to be an arborist, you got new subscriber man
Thanks for the sub and you're welcome. Take care!
Thanks bino! Muito obrigado 🙏
I"m from Brazil 🇧🇷
You're welcome and thanks for watching!
At about 4:30, perhaps worth mentioning you are safe to dismantle main line because lanyard provides fall protection.
I use this system only instead of a clove hitch I use a half inch swivel eye trigger snap and a small carabiner like a key chain size connect it to my 3 hole hitch climber pulls and I run the working end around my bridge and back to the bottom hole on my hith climber pulls you can adjust it to the height you want it for a good long pull with a hand ascender .....works for me.....Thx for the vid never thought of a clove hitch
Sounds interesting. Thanks
Very cool. Thanks for teaching
Thanks for watching!
Nice technique, do you prefer a knee or foot ascender over this? I love the knee ascender now. Thanks for sharing, God bless
I like both and SRS.
Bino just wana say I appreciate your vids b safe little man ❤️uk 🌳🌳🌳
Thank you!
Bino, first off, thank you very much for the awesome vid. Secondly, could you eloborate a bit more on the part where you said the hand over hand system may cause some friction hitches to run? I’m new to climbing and am interested which hitches/why they would run when doing that versus the hip thrusts.
Thank you
You're welcome. When you body thrust your hitch goes up a short distance and then your body weight rests on it so it locks. Sometimes hitches may run if you go upward as you do hand over hand and rest. There are a lot of different things that can cause that to happen. the length, diameter of your cord , diameter of your rope and the way you tie your hitch. The best thing to do is to practice your hitch in the method low to the ground.
I just discovered your channel and am enjoying your style and content. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Awesome, thank you!
My instructor showed me something similar, but instead of a sow hitch he used a tiny Prusik with a key ring to tend the slack.
Did he use it with a closed hitch system?
Thanks! Great teacher. Love your videos! 💯👍
Thank you!
Great idea. .Thank you. Greetings from Poland!
Glad you liked it! Take care!
30 seconds in and I love you and your video. This is great content
Thank you!
Like that self tending system, again great video Bino.
Thank you
Whats the song called in the beginning man? Thanks for the info as well. I practiced your technique today. Very enjoyable.
I will try this tomorrow Bino. I have a 1/2” Yale fire rope that is to thick for me rope wrench and your setup will work great. I can’t wait to try it out. Stay safe
Thank you, take care!
I haven't gone up in a while but if footlocking isn't possible. This is hands down the next best method to get up
Thank you!
Thanks Bino!
You're welcome!
Nice!
Thanks!
Good job.. be safey always
Thank you!
Another great video Bino, thanks for sharing ,
You're welcome, Take care!
Nice demo
Thanks!
Thank you bro helping a lot
Happy to help
Your videos are extremely interesting and informative. I'm curious where you buy your equipment that you're using. What you do is fascinating! Curious if you're in Southern California?
I buy a lot of the stuff I use from Bishop Company. It's in California. Yes I am in Southern California.
Thank you Bino! I'm here in So Cal too. More specifically in the South Bay in the city of Los Angeles. Looking forward to more of your videos!
@@stevebrough304 I'm in Orange County. Thank you!
Is it possible to use an ascender (jumar) fixed with a personal lanyard to the harness, instead of using a friction rope machard/prusik) ?
Your great
Thank you!
Wow... Good one. Thanks for sharing.. 👍
You're welcome!
I like it. Thanks. I have an uncle Bino.
You're welcome. That's cool you have an Uncle with the same name.
Hey bino,, problem... my distel hitch always gets to tight coming down.. it cinches up and keeps on cinching til i can hardly pull it down.. is it the material of my hitch, or diameter, or loops, I'm using 1down 4 up loops on my distel.
Yes the type of rope and diameter can make a difference on the way the hitch performs. When I used the Distel it would be too tight sometimes for me. One of the reasons I explored other hitches. I like the Michoacan and the Knut. What length is your cord?
@@BinoH about 24 to 28 inches.. i made my own chord with 8mm, 16 strand static.. with fisherman's knots on the ends to connect to the caribiner. The total length looks like yours in the video.. hey, on a different direction, i love using my rescue figure 8 below the hitch climber pulley.. i gives me confidence as a secondary belay device plus gives you the action of a rope wrench.. i know,, it's in a drt system,, but confidence and security are key to manuverability.. your clove hitch set up allows the room fir the figure 8.. and the figure 8 does more than the rope wrench, it also allows you the lock off.. peace of mind,, low tech
Also, I'm a retired fireman, 28 years.. that's where i cut my teeth on all things rope.. so i found a place to use all that stored up knowledge in arborist work
@@tyhnbgtyhnbgt It sounds like your using 5 wraps on a 28 inch cord. If I'm using a 24" cord I use four wraps but is it's longer than 24" I will use five.
@@tyhnbgtyhnbgt Cool how do like arborist work?
Could I do a closed system self tender with a DMM ECCENTRIC HitchClimber? When wearing a double bridge saddle I use a tending prusik on my tail end when I MRS climb with just a Blake's hitch. That system i use more for bowhunting, not for arborist work.
I have not used a DMM ECCENTRIC Hitch Climmber Pulley but it I believe you are able to use in that system.
Thanks for the video Bino. Is the clove hitch in this setup considered your backup fall protection? Meaning, will it catch you if for some reason the prusik hitch fails to catch?
No it does not take the place of a prusik. You are creating a longer bridge with your rope so the closed hitch system will tend as you pull.
Bino: what kind of saddle are you using? I notice that you have a large ring on the bridge of your saddle: what kind of ring is that? Is it ok to clip into the ring with your MRS carabiners? What do you think about placing a swivel on your bridge instead of a large ring?
The saddle in this video is a Buckingham Master 5.0. The large ring comes with the saddle I believe it's a Buckingham ring. Yes you can use carabiners on the ring. Some people use a swivel on their bridge. Hope this was helpful.
Are those belt loops meant for suspending your weight? I had no idea, if they are.
Yes they are Buckingham makes some of their saddles that way.
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Can you use a foot ascender?
I don't believe it works very well with this system. It would be better to use the the regular MRS.
Thank you 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇬🇧
You're welcome!
You said the hitch was a French prusik in the beginning of the video. I’ve looked for tutorials and what I’m finding on UA-cam appears to have more wraps. Is it possible you mis-spoke or can the French be tied with a varying number of wraps? Thanks great video
I made a video named Tree Climbing Prusik Cords. In this video I talk about long and short cords and 4 wraps and 5 wraps.
Could someone on the ground technically pull on the end of the rope you’re pulling to ascend as well with this method?
Yes if you are using a pulley tending system.
Guys! Here’s an even easier technique with the same equipment. Pulley and friction hitch on “down” side of rope, “up” side of rope attached to the same carabiner to tend instead of adding clove. Add an ankle ascender or foot prusic below your pulley and all you have to do is stand up and pull your “down” leg.
Are you saying to use a ascender or Pussik loop with an MRS/ Ddrt system?
@@BinoH Yes. I usually opt out because I'm young and lightweight but for any run above like 45 ft I put on a foot prusik below my pulley to give me extra lift and tend slack for me as i go. If not, I'm hauling myself up the rope with both arms, locking off with one arm, and tending slack. But I always keep my other length of rope connected to my device in order to pull it up the rope as I go. However I have experienced side-loading in this system, and if you're working a small branch it can be quite hard on your hands.
Yes that is another good technique. Thank you!
Good job I tried it and it works great for me thanks again.
@@robertstroh4803 you're welcome I'm glad you liked it.
congratulations!!
Thank you!
What type of rope do you use or recommend for MRS ?
The one I've been enjoying right now it the Blue moon and you can use it for MRS and SRS.
Thx!
You're welcome!
hola Bino...cual es diametro de las cuerdas que usas
The Climbing line is 11mm and the Prusik cords are 8mm and 24 inches long.
What kind of hitch ?
The one in the video is a Michoacán
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Thank you!
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Thank you!
Learn Srt...problems solved.
Yes SRT/SRS is a great system but there are a lot of climbers who like MRS/Ddrt. Take care.
- Well, you openly call yourself a junkie, so we can't be surprised when you exhibit junkie behavior.
I almost stopped the video because of the useless music before the title and anyone spoke....
I don't I why all these guys love pulling themselves up into a tree up a rope?. I climb everyday and i just get my 26 foot extension ladder and use that to get up into a tree. Then i just throw my life line up into my high point tie off and I'm gone. Climbing up a rope that way just looks like a big waste of energy. Im not talking down on people who choice to do this but we usually make fun of people that like doing it that way. You better be really good with the throw bag or you got 5 ground guys looking at you waiting for you to start dropping limbs js
A ladders works but some crews have to trim 50 trees in a day some short some very tall. It would take a lot a effort to take a ladder to that many trees also depending on the job, they may have to work on slopes and uneven ground. There are a lot of climbers using MRS so if there is higher climb this could help make it easier.
This is a great technique! I don't see others teaching it. Thanks for the awesome content, Bino!
Glad you like it, Thank you!
This is so simple and so smart and doesn't require any extra gear. Thanks for sharing
Glad you like it! Thank you!
good job thankyou
You're welcome and thank you for watching!
Man you really bless.me.with your knowledge and the simple way you explain things. I really don't need a lot of fancy gear after all. That is expensive. God bless you my friend.
Thank you I'm glad you enjoyed the video, take care!
Not mentioned but I feel this technique could also be good for returning from a limb walk. I feel once you get to a safe part in your limb walk, you set this up, that way as your returning you don't have to underhand tend the hitch. Like you mentioned it would require to do hand over hand witch causes the hitch to loosen up and might be a technique for a more advanced climber and not a beginner.
Also not mentioned, but maybe is in another video, is using a termination knot could interfere with the hitch capturing the rope if they get close together. I watched and not once in your video does this happen, but it could. Worth e mention I feel.
Appreciate your videos Bino.
I never used this technique comming back in from a limb. I always just used it for ascending and when I reach the canopy I switched it back. True I haven't had the termination knot hang up on the fiction hitch. Thank you!
I've been trying to start my own tree business for past year or so and I've been studying to become an Arborist, so I've been trying to learn all the knots and different techniques to use to make things safe and secure. I must say I enjoy watching your videos more then any other. Can't really say why, really. I just enjoy the way you explain how to do things and what equipment you need to do it.
Thank for the great comment. Take care!
Nice video.....👍..... How long does a rope last? As its running over the tree and does it do much damage to the tree where the rope runs?
Depends on how rough the bark is how often you use it. It normally does not harm the tree but it also depends on how strong the bark is some trees may peel. On thin bark tree using a friction saver would stop the bark from peeling.
Very good movie you explane very well also i am italian and not understan all word hello
Hello, Thank you for watching!
wheres the friction saver?
I didn't use it on this video.
I just used this and it was really cool! It was fun. Thank you so much for your videos Bino!
Cool thank you!
would be nice to see a close up of that ascender and even a link. Thanks.
what harness are you using?
I am using the Buckingham Master 5.0
Hey Bino, so the rope rubbing against the tree bark when you are hip thrusting doesn't damage the rope?. I always use a friction saver, but it seems like the ability to toss it up and advance it farther like you do in this video could come in handy . Especially if you can't get a good angle to get your friction saver up to the branch you really want to tie in to from the ground. I mainly climb oaks, which the bark isn't anywhere near as smooth as the tree you're climbing here. That's why I'm not sure if going without a friction saver would be a good idea or not.
No it has not damaged the rope or the tree. This is a Holly Oak (Quercus ilex). You could always work your way up the tree to final tie and then set up your friction saver. It is always nice if you can throw to a high point with a shot bag and set up a friction saver.
You need to explain how tie the cloves and your ropes I seen none here in Texas although I know you could buy them on line but not having any experience the names of these tools you use I and others wouldnt know what there call or known which are need show i
More vids. Please
Will do! Thank you!
Hey Bino. I've bene using the clove hitch as you say in this video. It's working really good and makes ascending easier. However, when I get to height I have a real hard time with the clove hitch. I try to just open up the carabiner and slide the hitch off so it will fall apart. however the clove gets so tight that it won't move. I have to take off my gloves and spend a long time messing with the knot to get it loose enough to move off the carabiner. Any advice? I'm using arbor-plex rope.
When I fist started to use this technique I was using the alpine butterfly but there is a chance that the carabiner can side load. That's why I feel like the clove would be better to use.
This guy is really the best at climbing tutorials for beginners …. Very imformative
I appreciate that!
Thanks Bino. 👍🏼
You're welcome!
Hi Bino. I've considered setting up a MRS system with a pulley at the top of the system to eliminate friction. I would clip a carabiner to the pulley and pull it up with a rope tied to the carabiner at one end, and to the bottom of the tree at the other end (similar to SRS). The pulley would hang below a tree crotch and would be hoisted with a rope for MRS. I haven't seen this method used, but it seems safe enough, maybe? Would you have any concerns here? The pulley wouldn't be tied around the tree, but hanging and tied off like a SRT system, but for MRS. Sure would save a lot of money spent on the ART ropeguide to use with my Spiderjack. I'm guessing there is a good reason that people don't do this, but I can't think of it. Any ideas?
So before there was SRS we used to practice something like what you are talking about but for palm tree rescue. We set up a false crotch over a Mexican Fan Palm. we threw a rope over the top of the palm connected a pulley set our MRS rope in it pulled it up once it was at the top we set a pulley with a sling on our running end. Normally you would body thrust to the top but because he had the pulley at the base couple of guys began pulling the climbers line and he was able to fly to the top. It can work but more set and someone needs to pull the running end.
Thanks Bino
You're welcome!
Hi Bino, will the friction knot still works when wet?
The last time I was using a wet rope about 4 years ago my knot jammed on me and I had to retie it worked but it was very tight. I was using an MRS system and firefly rope with and 8mm HRC cord. I don't climb very often in wet condition. Different cord and rope might have differnt reaction.
This should work with the zigzag, correct??
He’s a big guy for a climber.
Tried this today and it works great and made a world of difference in ascending. Thanks for the video...well done!
Great to hear and thank you!
Awesome technique I’ve tried today will use it always thank you
I'm glad you liked it. Thank you!
Well another good video and if your willing to take the time to make them, i am always going to watch them because the content is packed with good info. Ty
I appreciate that!
Bino, do you have a video on when to decommission ropes or more specifically the prusik loops or eye to eye prusiks? It always makes me nervous to rely on the prusik cord as my only attachment to my climbing line. Often I'll throw a loop of webbing and attach that above my prusik with an auto block or klemheist as a backup to my prusik cord.
That said, we should hope to never be in a situation where the prusik cord fails or your main line breaks. Perhaps I should be anchoring my backup webbing, lanyard, or tether to the tree separately rather than back to the rope?
I don't have one yet but I will keep it in mind.
How is this on your rope wear not having a limb/rope saver
Not bad and it's not harming the tree but it is a smooth barked tree. It be a hole different story if it was a rough barked tree.
Wow this is great Bino. Its just what I've been looking for. I've been using double Blakes recently to make my ascents . I've been just starting to experiment with XT and VT hitches but the pulling overhead can get annoying . I was wondering with the system you demonstrate in this video does it matter if the hitch is VT XT or Distel or will any three of those work ?
I think as long as the knot is tied correct it should work but if you try to do the hand over hand some knots may run on you when you rest. I would be best to use them low before you take it high.
@@BinoH Kool. Thanks Bino. The reason why I asked is because my prusik is little different than the one in your video. I have a 30 inch where the eyes have to be tied and adjusted manually. I may have shorten it down if I decide to use the French prusik. Even if I do VT or XT I'll just do a lot of experiment with the low and slow like you said. Thank again Bino I like all your stuff and learn a lot keep it up 👍
@@billthebushman551 Bino taught me the michoacan... now my go to, happy space for majority of hitch needs.
So is that the Michoacán hitch he is using?
Hola Bino que pasa si el sistema lo conecto al punto central del arnes? Con solo una micro polea simple
That will work as long as you have a double locking carabiner.
Top! Bino! Parabens! Tecnica Pratica e rapido! Abraço👏👏
Thank you!
What if sometimes some of these friction hitchs may run on you?
Check this video out it may help.
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Is it allowed to hang on positioning lugs only without main rope? they are only for positioning, not for fall rescue. as manuals
I always believed that for MRS we need at least 2 main ropes
When you say lugs do you mean a lanyard? It depends where you are here in America one life line and a lanyard is proper. In some places they may require two life lines.
@@BinoH sorry. English is not my native language. I mean the rings on the sides of the harness. These rings are for positioning, not fall prevention as from harness manual which I read. only for positions lanyard and requires main safety rope usage during work at height
Does this work for mechanical prusiks or do you have any other tips for self tending mechanical devices?
Thanks mate good method 🇦🇺🍻
@@jackevans5279 you're welcome
beautiful video. thanks
So nice of you! take care!
This is a really good video 👍🏽
Glad you liked it
What saddle are you using
In this video I'm using a Buckingham Master 5.0 I also have a Buckingham Navigator
Awesome good fun I feel like a kid again
Yes lots of fun!