My Three-Module Delay Chain
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2019
- I've been through several delays in my live performance modular case looking for a combination of performance flexibility and interesting sound that hit my personal aural sweet spot. I've finally found it: a three-module patch including an Intellijel Mixup, WMD Overseer, and a 4ms Dual Looping Delay. Here's a run-through of each module as well as the overall patch, including numerous examples of the sounds it can produce.
My patrons also have access to a long companion post that details the thought process that went into creating this, including all of the options I tried and rejected over the past year: / mgc-episode-13-3-28700420
I wish this was a television channel.
That’s a really nice patch.
Really enjoyed that. Short, sweet and very useable!
Getting some genuine early Autechre vibes there towards the end.
Neat, those are the kinds of beats I am after, thanks for showing me a way to do it.
One of my favorite fields to play in is the stereo one!
Nice combo. So many possibilities.
Many thanks for this brilliant video, inspired me to have a go with the same ideas.
Master at work here.
excellent video
Nice patch!
Spectacular!
Makes me wish tapographic delay from 4ms had stereo input)
Wonderful!
Thx so much for ALL your online teachings. Considering the wmd overseer. Any thoughts?
Great video, thanks man.
Just a note: 5 and 9 aren’t irrational numbers but odd numbers. Irrational numbers are like square root of minus one.
While I was saying that, my brain was going "that's not the right word..." I asked it "so what is the right word?!?" and it said "I can't remember" - so I fumbled along. Sorry! ;-)
Nice Chris - very creative use of delay to create instant pattern variation. Would you envisage actually 'playing' this setup in a live environment? ie changing patterns in a deliberate way to create specific rhythms?
Hi, Brian - yes, I definitely play with this in a live setting to change the "feel" of a pattern, or to pre-set a pattern for the next piece. Note that Time is also CV-able on the 4ms DLD.
BTW, another trick I enjoy is playing with the Reverse buttons and gate inputs. I can gate changes into those on, say, every 2nd or 4th measure for fun.
Great video
Thank you - I really appreciate it. I still use this set-up, and others respond well when I demonstrate it to them.
Picking up and trying this trio makes for some awesome fun 👌👌
Sick high hat sound bro!
I love that WMD allowed the Crucible to sound sick; I prefer non-standard sounds (that still do the job of the usual sounds) when I can get them.
You mention that the input for the delay is via your mixer? is that out of shot and what is it? external to case?
My WMD Performance Mixer is out of shot below it. Aux Send 2 from the PM goes to channel 1 on Mixup. The stereo outputs of the 4ms DLD go into a stereo channel on am PM Channels expander, so I can also then use Aux Send 1 to go to the reverb. (Note that I also use Aux Send 2 on the delay's mixer channel to create the feedback loop, instead of using Mixup - but unfortunately the PM makes the send assignments mutually exclusive, and I want to be able to send to the reverb as well.)
Chris - would the DLD send/return trick work with a stereo mixer like the WMD Axys where you cross-fade instead of mixing in the send L/R in at a different level?
It kind of would, but the problem with crossfading (well, depending on the crossfader - more on that in a sec) is that it would be fading down one input - such as your main sound source - in order to fade up the repeats. In this application, you want to keep the main signal at a steady level (usually full) while you play with the level of the second signal to set the feedback amount you want.
However, there are some crossfaders that keep one signal at full level for half of their movement while they fade up the other, meet in the middle at full volume, and then start fading down the first signal as you keep going. That type would work okay. I don't known enough about the WMD Axys to know if it does that kind of fade.
@@LearningModular Thanks for the explanation! I figured that'd be the likely issue. I will investigate further the cross-fading curve of the Axys and see if that could work. Just got a DLD and this patch is definitely something I'd like to experiment with.
I was wondering, why do you take the send from the DLD. To mix the feebacks from A & B ?
Yes - the send/return connectors are an external version of its own internal feedback path, in case you wanted to alter the feedback - which I did, with the filter. (Send is also a copy of the Out, so I didn't need to use a mult to both send it to the final master mixer as well as use it for feedback). The issue with Send/Return is it that it comes into play after the first repeat, and I wanted the filter in there for the very first repeat as well - so I needed to move the filter to before the delay, and then loop the feedback to before the filter (which was the job of the Mixup).
@@LearningModular Cool idea, love it ! I'm using my DLD via a send return of my external mixer thanks to the 1U Audio.
@@LearningModular So does that mean the Send out is not affected by the DLD feedback controls?
Very nice setup! Now I'm curious if I can set up something similar with Rainmaker. The benefit with your arrangement is that it's very hands on and accessible. I think with Rainmaker I would set Mod A and B to control L&R Tap#, and then I could use the Feedback Tone as the filter control but there's no resonance like you have with the Overseer.
@ScottMFR yes, the Send Out (and Return In) is independent of the feedback controls on the front panel of the DLD. You can think of it as a second, independent feedback loop, if you patch Send to Return. (Or Send back to the normal input, as I am here.)
Hey, just curious about that 1hp module you have in that case. What is that?
A schenk.work Pequeño Interruptor - a set of small switches attached to jumpers on the back. I use it to switch modes for the Ladik Probability module.
@@LearningModular thanks for the quick reply
I see you're using only the send on your dld, how does that work?
The send is going to the mixer, through the filter, and back into the normal input on the DLD.
Hi there, can you elaborate on the patch between the Mixup and the dld... thanks
Mono send from main mixer to mono input on Mixup. Stereo out from Mixup to A/B channels of DLD. A/B outputs from DLD to stereo input channel on mixer. A/B sends on DLD to stereo input on Mixup.
@@LearningModular Thanks!