4ms - DLD / Dual Looping Delay

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

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  • @RedMeansRecording
    @RedMeansRecording 3 роки тому +7

    just ordered one of these. excited.

  • @liquidacoustics8329
    @liquidacoustics8329 8 років тому +20

    Great overview man. I can't stop singing this modules praises either as I'm sure all other proud owner's of the DLD are.
    It's definitely easier watching your video to figure out a module than it is to read a manual.
    Maybe I'm just too old, either way .... Great job man.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      Thanks :) always nice to hear positive things. I prefer to watch videos and get ideas.

  • @Pladdz12345
    @Pladdz12345 7 років тому +5

    So nice! Really digging these creative stereo modules and I'm always in search of them. Thanks DK!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  7 років тому +2

      Yeah me too, exploring the stereo space as well as all the other bonkers sonic territory modular allows for.

  • @onceuponasynth
    @onceuponasynth 7 років тому +3

    Awesome demo/tutorial! I've had this module recommended to me many times now so I might just have to take the plunge and get it. It certainly sounds lovely in your vid.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  7 років тому +1

      It's stunning, I've said several times on camera that it's the best module I've ever used. "Best" is a loaded word that I don't like but it sort of gets the point across. It would go great as a stereo effect for looping and delay over your sample based set up.

  • @terrybailey2015
    @terrybailey2015 8 років тому +2

    Pretty high praise for a module, coming from you Ben! Thanks for the review and demo!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  7 років тому +3

      I think this is one of the best bits of gear I've ever touched. So impressed with it.

    • @khaledadams4329
      @khaledadams4329 6 років тому

      This is the comment that made my mind up. Means a lot coming from you.

  • @BlueWolfSe7en
    @BlueWolfSe7en 8 років тому +2

    Really good vid on the DLD, top module, love mine! Hats off for incorporating a bit of Zappa :-)

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому +1

      Yeah thought some Zappa deserved a bit of time, that said was worried UA-cam police would mark as copyright and pull it down. We'll see. I EQ'd pretty heavily to try and stop that happening.

  • @orangewiggler6838
    @orangewiggler6838 8 років тому +1

    Great sound on 17:40. And it even gets better with the sequence on top of it!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      great! :) thanks

  • @ipassenger
    @ipassenger 8 років тому +1

    Brilliant demo and it is such a lovely clean delay sound.... damn, this is going to have to go on the shopping list.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      it's a massive standout module for me.

  • @cryptout
    @cryptout 2 роки тому

    I'm rediscovering this great module with the help of this awesome video.

  • @Nachtdwaler
    @Nachtdwaler 7 років тому +2

    Holy shit, that's one powerful module.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  7 років тому +1

      absolutely stunning!

  • @sysexstudio
    @sysexstudio 8 років тому +1

    Spectacular demo Ben. I must add this thing to my rack!

  • @NedRush
    @NedRush 8 років тому +3

    Mine's coming tomorrow. Looking forward to it. Great video.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      A month on how are you getting on with it?

    • @NedRush
      @NedRush 8 років тому +1

      DivKidVideo ah. Well I've not had much time with Christmas and I've been ill with a virus last week so I've not had much time for patching. I'll be up and running soon and posting videos on my channel. I'll report back then. ;)

    • @NedRush
      @NedRush 8 років тому +1

      Having a play now. Trying to wrap my head around entering the system settings to change the delay feed cv jack to control the mix on B, but not having a huge amount of luck. Until then, currently settling on using A as a master send delay, then running it into B as a HOLD beat repeater master delay looper thing as the end of the chain. Its cool.

    • @NedRush
      @NedRush 8 років тому +1

      Ok. Got the delay feed to mix cv working. Happy days.

  • @jasevaughan7829
    @jasevaughan7829 8 років тому +1

    Thanks for this Ben. Shed night tomorrow, gonna give that sound on sound a go

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      Nice one! How did you get on?

  • @mylespotters
    @mylespotters 8 років тому +1

    Damn, I have this one and there's loads in here to try! Thanks for this.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      great stuff! Hope it's brought on some fun patching.

  • @RayMcNamaraMusic
    @RayMcNamaraMusic 5 років тому

    Holy bazookies. Is this the deepest delay ever made? It's got features I've never even conceived of before.

  • @salsoulkid
    @salsoulkid 8 років тому +2

    Bang on fela. I've had this a few months, and basically every thing I do runs through Clouds and this! You've showed me some new tricks though ;-)

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому +1

      Love how clean the DLD is. Makes for a great processor for acoustic instruments and software too.

  • @walrtbstudios5430
    @walrtbstudios5430 2 роки тому

    Dammit, there are strong arguments to be made for having this, the Mimeophon AND the Echophon in the rack- they just do different things, brilliantly.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  2 роки тому

      that's the problem with delays, they all do things differently enough and like a lot of people with filters - you end up with loads of them!

  • @saturnine1979
    @saturnine1979 8 років тому +1

    gorgeous Rings patch! great video :)

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      Yeah the melodic stuff with it is awesome! Did more of that in the DLD and SMR video from a few days ago.

  • @NicWolf
    @NicWolf 8 років тому +1

    Wow thanks! I've been using this pretty much exclusively as an end-of-chain effect. I knew I could get more out of it, but wasn't really sure of the context. You're giving me a lot of homework on this one ;)

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      Nice one! Hope you've had some fun playing around with it.

  • @TerekkiTerekki
    @TerekkiTerekki 6 років тому +1

    Great demo Ben

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  6 років тому

      Cheers Derek.

  • @killahkay2112
    @killahkay2112 6 років тому +1

    yea i have to agree with you on this one .
    It's Amazing .

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  6 років тому

      really great delay :)

  • @Landman_sounds
    @Landman_sounds 2 роки тому

    Holy moly the stereo image I’m getting through my phone speakers!!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  2 роки тому +1

      the idea of stereo image on a phone at first seemed a joke but with speakers at the opposite ends of them you can definitely hear the width on things like this.

    • @Landman_sounds
      @Landman_sounds 2 роки тому

      @@DivKid yea no joke here. I know its not the ideal format for stereo but it comes through real well in landscape!

  • @precarious333
    @precarious333 8 років тому +1

    Really nice.

  • @jacco1967
    @jacco1967 7 років тому +1

    Great module and thnx for the good demo

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  7 років тому +1

      cheers Jacco

    • @jacco1967
      @jacco1967 7 років тому

      DivKidVideo got in my rack but
      didn't give it much time yet.

  • @eiermann1952
    @eiermann1952 4 роки тому +2

    i will hock it up to pamela´s new workout, might be fun.

  • @olexpono
    @olexpono 6 років тому +5

    The Borg sequence really sounds like Anti War Dub by Digital Mysticz, classic dubstep.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  6 років тому

      Don't know that one I'll check it out.

    • @mynewcolour
      @mynewcolour 5 років тому

      It was on Hyperdub I think. Total classic. Nice module but also really nice sequences too :)

    • @brandonhill688
      @brandonhill688 4 роки тому +1

      @@mynewcolour it was released on DMZ w. HAUNTED on the B-Side - Digital Mystikz own imprint! Rare 12" and a CLASSIC indeed!! Also used in CHILDREN OF MEN - fun fact! Hails!

  • @Matkins85
    @Matkins85 8 років тому +1

    "Almost like hitting a bit of drain pipe". Love it.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      well ... it is :)

  • @solaryzer
    @solaryzer 7 років тому +1

    After mentioned on sonictalk 499 came for a look ,, ya brill bit of gear ,, sounds fab .

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  7 років тому

      Nice one Sean appreciate you coming over to check out my videos too.

  • @soundofruins0sor861
    @soundofruins0sor861 8 років тому +1

    Great !
    Are you gonna make a vid for "Knob"?
    Cheers

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      Knobs has a video by me on the Future Music magazine channel. I add them to this playlist on my channel (but I don't think you'll get notified). ua-cam.com/play/PLIWGcb0CxSCGclDKjJp9JGRY3eOL2a-Fg.html

  • @acdnrg
    @acdnrg 3 роки тому

    A full :zoviet*france: performance in 20 hp innit. And it took me only 5 years to get one :D Can´t wait what this will do for a techno rumble BD application. Need more time to play. Thanks Ben!

  • @MadelnMachines
    @MadelnMachines 6 років тому +2

    Another beautiful timeless riff. What names do you produce under? You create some amazing riffs. A delay you can play in musical scales? I've never heard of such a thing. Nice trick! What are your favourite delays?

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  6 років тому +1

      There's music under my real name around, most of it privately in libraries and things outside of what I do here. I'll have some more music to release publicly as DivKid though in the future. Favourite delays ... long list, too many to name really. Hardware, software, modules. There's a lot of good stuff around.

  • @kevindowney6403
    @kevindowney6403 8 років тому +1

    Nice video Ben as always. Sorry for the noob question but can you share how you got that bass sound at the beginning please? Cheers!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому +2

      Bass sound at the beginning was Mutable Instruments Tides. I sequenced it with the Audio Damage Sequencer 1 and use the stepped random modulation mode on the extra 3 CV outputs on the Sequencer 1 to modules wave shape, wave skew and folder/filter on Tides. Never a question too "noobie" so fire away anytime :)

  • @Utilisateur.2
    @Utilisateur.2 5 років тому

    Hi, at 4:32, if it 2 different Rings modules in each delay entry? If Left and Right is from the same Rings, how did you sent notes left and right and split the signal? Thank you for your videos, very helpful

    • @GeorgeLocke
      @GeorgeLocke 4 роки тому

      Rings has limited polyphony. If you set it to two voice poly and connect both outputs, alternating triggers go to alternating outputs.

  • @davemaier8350
    @davemaier8350 8 років тому +1

    Very nice, thanks! One question about windowing: you were holding down the hold button and turning the feedback knob; but if you were to do that with CV, would you send a gate into the hold CV rather than a trigger (to mimic holding the button down rather than simply pressing and releasing for a toggle)? Or would you have to hold it down manually?

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому +1

      Hi Dave, I'd have to check the manual and try that out again. I haven't found myself using that in current jamming/projects between videos. I don't think you have to hold it down manually. If you ask 4ms directly (email, Facebook, twitter etc) I'm sure they'll answer anything that I can't directly. Just looked at the manual and here is your answer ...
      "Using CV with Windowing
      The Feedback CV jack also allows you to window using external CV control. To enable the CV jack, you must first manually
      hold down Infinite Hold and turn Feedback, even just a small amount. The Feedback CV jack will now control the window.
      If you turn the Feedback knob at any time without holding down Infinite Hold, the Feedback CV jack will no longer control
      the window."

    • @davemaier8350
      @davemaier8350 8 років тому

      Thanks Ben!

    • @Flec8
      @Flec8 8 років тому

      Did you find an answer to this?

  • @jonathangrover3176
    @jonathangrover3176 6 років тому +1

    Thanks so much for this! I'm just cracking to the wide world of modular synthesis and your channel has been super helpful. One thing I'd really appreciate your insight on - what's your output chain in this video? Are you going straight out from a mixer/VCA into your interface, or do you use an output module? Thanks again :)

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  6 років тому

      Hi Jonathan not sure exactly what this was as the video is from some time back. But for convenience I use the Praxis (Sure I did back when I filmed this too) Snake Charmer which is an 8 output balanced line driver output onto DB25 snake. I then have a snake cable taking the DB25 from the modular side to 8 XLRs on my interface. I've shown off a couple of nice Vermona outputs on my channel TwinOut - ua-cam.com/video/Y89P74fYZrk/v-deo.html and the TAI-4 - ua-cam.com/video/q7gqTDrBpNE/v-deo.html . You don't need to use an output module at all you can come out of the last module in the chain into your other gear. Just be aware eurorack levels are typical 10x hotter than line level. So you might clip things, but your gear might have the headroom to take it and be fine. But they're convenient often dealing with level control, getting signals onto the right cables, sometimes with headphone amps/drivers and outputs too.

    • @jonathangrover3176
      @jonathangrover3176 6 років тому +1

      Thank you kindly, I appreciate the thorough and informative reply!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  6 років тому

      no worries at all.

  • @deanivan3951
    @deanivan3951 Рік тому

    Great video, can this be used as a standalone unit to say play audio samples from my sp404 through it to make unique loops?

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  Рік тому

      Hi Dean, if you can get a good high level out of the external gear then it could be used on it's own. You need a case and power for it though.

    • @deanivan3951
      @deanivan3951 Рік тому +1

      @@DivKid Thanks For the Reply 👍

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  Рік тому +1

      No worries, I try to respond to as much as I can.
      If you're not getting good results straight out of the SP, then a stereo input module would be what you need. There's a website called Modular Grid which is a huge module database with the facility of building up virtual cases and layouts. You can check on there under the modules section and search by functions etc. Might be helpful when looking at what's out there. www.modulargrid.net

  • @tapastro
    @tapastro 5 років тому

    Noticed the Keychain in this video, and tried to find it on the web. It seems to have never made it to production - anyone know what became of it?

  • @NedRush
    @NedRush 8 років тому +1

    Ive just noticed there appears to be no cv for the dry wet mix. Did this have you running into any issues when patching?

    • @NedRush
      @NedRush 8 років тому +2

      When I say issues, I mean would you have preferred to have it there, doesn't seem like theres anyway to momentarily bring in the full mix other than with the dials.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому +1

      Hey Ned, no issue at all for me with no DRY/WET CV input. I use the Delay Feed CV to bring in the delay when I want.

    • @NedRush
      @NedRush 8 років тому +1

      DivKidVideo that's cool. I thought I'd be able to cv the dry/wet and delay feed together to create a full wet beat repeat type thing, though it's not immediately possible, a skim through the manual reveals that in the system settings you can set the delay feed cv in to also control the dry wet as well! So happy days all round. (Haven't tied it yet though)

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      oh cool, I haven't tried that yet.

    • @simonpeck
      @simonpeck 6 років тому

      there's no need for it. use the delay feed CV instead. get to know the module to see what i mean

  • @GeorgeLocke
    @GeorgeLocke 2 місяці тому +1

    It's very unimportant to remember that the "Karplus-Strong" method has a filter in the feedback loop. So, like, without the filter, it's kind of illegal and definitely going to cost you a lot of money.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  2 місяці тому

      unimportant, illegal and costly! Noted :D

  • @svnlto
    @svnlto 6 років тому +1

    And I thought only mine has the click sound on hold. Are there ways around that?

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  6 років тому +1

      don't think so, maybe a firmware up to make a quick and subtle crossfade with it on and off. But if you loop/freeze audio at a non zero crossing point you'll get a click either way.

    • @svnlto
      @svnlto 6 років тому +1

      Just did a firmware update before commenting. May have to just play around with it.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  6 років тому +1

      I just meant (typo in there too sorry) that a firmware update might be able to fix it ... if they make new firmware.

  • @kevinseidel1575
    @kevinseidel1575 8 років тому +1

    Hey Ben,
    Awesome video as usual with any of your demo vids! Have you tried pinging your DLD with the Ultra Random Analog clock out? I've tried with mine to no avail, also the EOS output on my Phonogene and a square wave from a Batumi, both also not working.The ping pushbutton works however as do all the clock outs on the DLD. I'm thinking there's something else afoot!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому +1

      Hey Kevin,
      I'm sure at one point in this video it was the URA clock output. If not I've definitely done that loads, so I'd say something was wrong. Contact 4ms :)

    • @kevinseidel1575
      @kevinseidel1575 8 років тому +1

      Thank you sir! I've contacted the guy I got it in trade from (works at Darkplace) so I've already got another on its way to me :)

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      perfect!

  • @housemachine509
    @housemachine509 5 років тому

    So no trigger record or playback? If not what other delay module can do this? Figured it was standard

    • @roboslobonator
      @roboslobonator 4 роки тому +1

      Sounds like you may be leaning more towards samplers/granular. 4ms Stereo Triggered Sampler, Morphagene, Lubadh, Arbhar, Assimil8or.

  • @no-crumpetition
    @no-crumpetition 7 років тому +3

    17:53 the past inside the present...

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  7 років тому +1

      yeah it's lovely bringing these things back round in the looper.

  • @richardkeys6680
    @richardkeys6680 3 роки тому

    DivKid, is it easy enough to sync the town delay lines so it can function as a basic stereo delay? I just saw someone on a forum complaining about having difficulties doing this, although it seems it would be part of the modules basic functionality. Thanks for your hard work!

  • @digby474
    @digby474 4 роки тому

    wonderfully helpful video.. thankyou :)

  • @morismateljan6458
    @morismateljan6458 7 років тому +6

    This one truly goes to eleven.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  7 років тому +4

      Run some content in D minor into it and it'll be the saddest of all the delays too! :)

    • @MichaelDowComposer
      @MichaelDowComposer 6 років тому

      absolute Mach piece. I'd lick it's love pump

  • @DesertFishHQ
    @DesertFishHQ 8 років тому +1

    nice one! where do you get those glowing patch cables?

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      with the LEDs in the jacks? They're from here (although I don't think they're available anymore) - actually I can't find the link. Site must have been taken down.

  • @mixolydian2010
    @mixolydian2010 8 років тому +1

    very cool cheers

  • @filo1210
    @filo1210 5 років тому

    Really great video , making me want to buy one . I’m also looking at Strymon Magneto , how do the two compare ?

    • @GeorgeLocke
      @GeorgeLocke 4 роки тому +1

      The magneto is all about the character whereas the DLD is more about the modulation.

    • @PandaPotPies
      @PandaPotPies 4 роки тому +2

      @@GeorgeLocke this

  • @vampiresforesl
    @vampiresforesl 2 роки тому

    "and little dub delay trails off over CV." What does this mean?

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  2 роки тому

      give me a timestamp (i.e. 3:12) for that part and I'll go listen and go through it.

  • @Llouwelyne
    @Llouwelyne 8 років тому +1

    possible to use DLD as gate/rec or looper for TRIG/GATE pease?

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      I haven't tried running CV / gate/ trigger through it so I don't know. That certainly wasn't the intention of the product. Check the manual to see if the inputs are AC / DC coupled.

  • @respondermusic2543
    @respondermusic2543 8 років тому +1

    nice!

  • @dr.feelicks2051
    @dr.feelicks2051 3 роки тому

    There was a delay in my acquisition of this delay in my.....

  • @barlobarlo303
    @barlobarlo303 7 років тому +2

    Frank Zappa vs Robert Novack through a DLD - my guess only Zappa would find it appealing!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  7 років тому +1

      Possibly audience limited content ... but this is a modular demo, it's already audience limiting with it's niche in niche vibe.

    • @barlobarlo303
      @barlobarlo303 7 років тому +1

      Novack was a stogy character who thought that only music made in the 18th century was music. Zappa on the other hand did amazing work in many genres. He did an electronic album "Jazz from Hell" that was done entirely on the synclavier. If he had had a DLD in those days I'm sure he would have used it on that album with great finesse after watching this video on what can be done with the DLD.
      Thanks for the video. Now I've got to get one!

  • @calderwood9641
    @calderwood9641 5 років тому

    This or Magneto?

    • @eroslivieratos272
      @eroslivieratos272 5 років тому

      I'd go with this. I'm selling my Magneto and Mimeophon and grabbing one.

    • @arpmoog
      @arpmoog 9 місяців тому

      IMHO, you need all you can afford. They are the colors of your artist’s palette. The Spice must flow!

  • @tiltedstudio
    @tiltedstudio 7 років тому +1

    16:15 Chortle...

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  7 років тому

      "knobs"?

    • @tiltedstudio
      @tiltedstudio 7 років тому +1

      "I'm fully wet..."
      - Thoroughly Juvenile.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  7 років тому +1

      :) haha hope whatever led to that was worth it!

    • @tiltedstudio
      @tiltedstudio 7 років тому

      Sleep deprivation - almost always worth it!

  • @jsogman
    @jsogman 7 років тому +1

    @5:27: gorgeous

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  7 років тому

      thank you

    • @piotr803
      @piotr803 6 років тому

      DivKidVideo beautiful. Remember which module created the sound?

  • @micyclebicycle
    @micyclebicycle 3 роки тому

    great vocal loop lol

  • @wackenthaljef
    @wackenthaljef 7 років тому +1

    Waoow!...Thats a double delay with reverse...thats it Kid?..I try to do it with my Bigsky and DD20, but its not exactly the same..:( ahah!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  7 років тому

      CV over the parameters here is the real key to how good it is. Fantastic module! Hybrid looper/delay that steps between both of those functions perfectly.

  • @banyek314
    @banyek314 8 років тому +2

    you dubbed it out with the borg man O/

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  8 років тому

      yeah they pair up really nicely!

  • @swamplifecontrol
    @swamplifecontrol 7 років тому +1

    No cv on the mix.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  7 років тому +1

      There isn't but there is on delay feed, so CV over input level can give the affect of CV over mix.