Both me and my wife own r7s, they are perfect for us as we photograph wildlife and birds. The autofocus is awesome, and it is a hardy camera. 150mm of rain and it never missed. Now just need to save for RF lenses, but in the meantime all our old lenses, even Tamron and Sigma rock in this system. Great vid as usual 🙂
I personally dont like the "beginner/Professional" labels. I have been shooting with a 7Dmii for 6 years and am definitely not a beginner. I do not work professionally as a photographer as its my hobby only. I think something needs to be said as to the cost of a camera and what one can afford as a hobbyst vs the necessities of the professional. I bought the R10 for my wildlife photography because simply I could not afford anything more and it is still an upgrade from the DSLR's. I think as a hobbyst you definitely don't need to pay an extra $1000 more (in Australia) for an extra card slot and bigger battery. What it came down to for me, was that the cameras below the R10 in price were significantly worse, but the cameras for an extra $1k (R7) were not delivering that much more. Perhaps in the northern hemisphere there is not much price difference between the R10 and the R7??
I don’t like the labels either personally. A camera is what you make of it but the proline of things (R6 and up) definitely have some perks that pros need
I have 2 M6 bodies and they are amazing, I want to upgrade but I am not trusting Canon. They made a great camera and mount and then abandoned it. Canon the most intuitive camera and menus but I trust Nikon more. It is sad in 2024 you cant trust Canon.
The technology is just moving so fast they have to choose what lines to concentrate on. But I hear you - I’m a HUGE fan of the m50 mark II and that’s a “dead” line
@@VanessaJoy it's just frustrating I have a dead camera system that I love it's life span will be seriously cut short because of Canon's decision. I want so much to buy into the more professional R system but thats atleast 20k and I am afraid to. Anyway, love the videos Vanessa and much appreciate the reply.
Using the R3/R5 plus an M5 for a pocket camera. Picked up the R7 to add the 1.6X crop but was hoping it would also fit in my pocket, it doesn’t. Plan B in the works…
I nearly bought the R10 but I decided to save up a little longer and get the R7. For only a (relatively) small amount of extra cash you're getting a more complete camera that the extra features just make it feel more professional for me (e.g. IBIS, dual card slots, bigger battery).
@@VanessaJoy let you know when I buy it 😂 I can buy the r10 now but decided to wait based on all these videos. I'll save up a little and get the r7 and take the step up.
I know she directed this video more towards photographers... But be aware if your looking at buying either of these camera's for video only... They will overheat on you if your shooting in 4k60. Especially if your shooting in direct sun during the summer months. Canon camera's are well known to overheat... Including the r5.
Hello!! I got the R10 a week ago and I really like it so far.. but I’m still debating if a should exchange it for the R7. The only thing that concerns me about the R7 is the no built- in flash. is that really important?? Or should I keep the R10 and get a better lenses? I’m not a pro and I just want the camera for traveling I have some nice pictures as a memories!
Both Good Venessa Joy. You also have to remember that not everyone has the Money to be able to afford the best. 99% of your viewers are not pros and just want a good Photo. As you know you can Capture a Fantistic Image with a 80d with good good Glass xox
Sure - that’s why I have the Budget Gear Shootout: ua-cam.com/play/PLsXiwWyXBJiZwOF18htYx888B0M9ZIR37.html&si=qC_s3dCaHaxOJsKh But that’s not what this video is about 😉
Great to hear your thoughts on these as the R7 is a potential upgrade after 8 years on my canon 700D however with the R8 now released im torn about finally going to full frame but i dont have budget for new lenses and im not even sure with an adaptor if my apsc lenses would do R8 justice or should stick to apsc for my portrait/fashion and product shoots - would you or your viewers have any wisdom on this? best regards from London UK
im a bit confused i hope you can explain to me. aps-c got a crop factor on canon cameras of 1.6 but i heard that when you get the canon r10 4k 60 fps. there is a crop factor . is when i use the 4k 24fps has zero crop factor, or the 4k 60fps has an additional crop factor to the basic 1.6?
I recently bought the r10, feeling like the lack of IBIS is making a difference. Almost want to exchange for a r7. Any lenses that you would suggest if I kept my r10 for better stabilization?
Really any lens that has IS will definitely help - depends on your budget of course but here are some: RF24mm 1.8 macro IS RF35mm 1.8 macro IS RF85mm 1.8 macro IS
when i search for canon r10 videos on youtube most of the youtubers have compared both canon r7 and r10 videos by showing mostly r7 vidoes and photos and only 3-4 photo samples of r10.
My only complaint about my R7 is the "feel" of the camera which comes off as not as solid as my R. But, if it stands up to hard work (e.g., going on a hike), I guess that's all good.
Not for photographers who are shooting with an R5/R3/R6 for their main camera. Lol I didn’t mount it, I just put it on the dash and didn’t make any sudden moves 😂
I think it's just a ghost from the past to think along the old lines of "professional" and "not professional" with regards to modern cameras. Especially since most "non professionals" have moved to phones long ago, and the "enthusiast" segment has always craved the old "semiprofessional" line (same as the professionals often chose, because it was easier on the wrists and bank). Your example of Canon is good. Both of these are fully usable as professional tools, as long as you remember to add good glass. Similarly, in Nikon-land we have the z5, z6, z7, z9 lines in the full frame, and z30, z50, zfc in crop. z5 is the only clear "enthusiast" grade. Both z6 and z7 are the typical "workman's tools" (filling the old D7xx and D8xx lines), and the Z9 is the "flagship" model. z30 is a camera stripped of the viewfinder for only a display, making it as compact as possible. I'd say this is the only pure "consumer" grade in the lineup (while still being fully usable for the professional vlogger making more money than us). The z50 and the zfc are the oddballs, replacing the entire crop camera lineup of enthusiast D cameras, including the D500. But only the Zfc has any attempts at weather sealing, making it the only camera really useful outdoors on anything but sunny days. Professional or Amateur camera? Look at the glass. I've done jobs with both Z7ii and Zfc (a smaller camera is less scary for a kid, because the kid can still see the human behind it). I think attaching a professional or not label to the camera houses we're having today makes no sense. They are tools. We had better be asking ourselves "is this the right tool for the job infront of me?", and if the answer is no, "in that case, which tool should I use?". My current toolchest solves the following: High resolution and dynamic range for when I have good light available or can use flash (Z7ii), Lower resolution but low noise on high iso for events and other places barely lit where I can't bring flash (Alas, still on mirrored, D750). Small, light body, I can bring with me everywhere that doesn't scare toddlers (Zfc). Of course, I'd want a Z9 and a chest full of exotics. But they wouldn't increase my income over what I already have.
Do you do any street photography? I’m based in San Antonio would love to grab coffee, pick your brain about wedding photography and do some street photography ☕️📸
The R7 is better for those of us with bear claw hands... and I prefer the bigger battery. Plus the "auto level" feature in the R7 is just fantastic, for both stills and video.
Vanessa, VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION because I'm gonna buy TODAY but if you only shoot VIDEO (I'm learning photo but) I only shoot video. If YOU were ME would you buy the R7 or the R8? Same price BUT R7 has ibis and 2 card slots but the R8 is full frame. Thanks for all your gold. Bo
I started shooting with film. Double card slots make me laugh. If you can't sleep without duo card slots are you really a pro? Two cards do not make for a pro. Knowing what you are doing makes the pro. I am not saying backup is not good just that it does not mean professional. Plus duo slots allows one for video and one for photo and there goes backup out the window.
That’s like saying you started on a horse and buggy and if I professional driver can’t live without gasoline then are they really a pro… with new tech comes raising the bar in the professional standards and to me dial cards slots is now a professional standard. Also, starting shooting on film does not give you a badge of honor. I started on film as well, but that is absolutely irrelevant to this conversation.
I am sorry. I thought you new about photography. You see we had one iso and one film speed for a given roll of film. We also captured great images. Not a badge of honor just not spray and pray. Your saying you need Two card slots to have pro equipment. I said a pro can shoot on any good camera system even with one card slot and get and deliver pro results. Get real all cameras have compromises the least of them being two card slots. If you do not know what you are doing 3 card slots will not help. If you do one will work fine. And I believe I said two are nice to have so grow up and play with the big boys.
@@anotherintrospekt6596 you are making yourself look bad. I made a statement of fact. I also agreed with her. You are stirring the pot to your detriment. Just facts.
nice thumbnail
thanks buddy :-)
Jared is a man of culture.😂
Even if the subject is of no interest, there's always Vanessa. 👍
Im confused guys, is this the gen z snapchick?
Both me and my wife own r7s, they are perfect for us as we photograph wildlife and birds. The autofocus is awesome, and it is a hardy camera. 150mm of rain and it never missed. Now just need to save for RF lenses, but in the meantime all our old lenses, even Tamron and Sigma rock in this system. Great vid as usual 🙂
It's not the camera that is pro or consumer......it's the photographer! Put any camera in the hands of a pro and you will get pro level photographers.
I personally dont like the "beginner/Professional" labels. I have been shooting with a 7Dmii for 6 years and am definitely not a beginner. I do not work professionally as a photographer as its my hobby only. I think something needs to be said as to the cost of a camera and what one can afford as a hobbyst vs the necessities of the professional. I bought the R10 for my wildlife photography because simply I could not afford anything more and it is still an upgrade from the DSLR's. I think as a hobbyst you definitely don't need to pay an extra $1000 more (in Australia) for an extra card slot and bigger battery. What it came down to for me, was that the cameras below the R10 in price were significantly worse, but the cameras for an extra $1k (R7) were not delivering that much more. Perhaps in the northern hemisphere there is not much price difference between the R10 and the R7??
I don’t like the labels either personally. A camera is what you make of it but the proline of things (R6 and up) definitely have some perks that pros need
Great cameras and reviews!! Good for events or some product photography also.
Totally agree!
As a hobbyst /enthusiast, non Professional, trying to choose between r10 and more lenses, or r8 full frame with one lens to begin with...
Hmmm that is a tough choice. I’m a believer that your lenses outlive your camera bodies, so personally I’d go for more lenses
I have 2 M6 bodies and they are amazing, I want to upgrade but I am not trusting Canon. They made a great camera and mount and then abandoned it. Canon the most intuitive camera and menus but I trust Nikon more. It is sad in 2024 you cant trust Canon.
The technology is just moving so fast they have to choose what lines to concentrate on. But I hear you - I’m a HUGE fan of the m50 mark II and that’s a “dead” line
@@VanessaJoy it's just frustrating I have a dead camera system that I love it's life span will be seriously cut short because of Canon's decision. I want so much to buy into the more professional R system but thats atleast 20k and I am afraid to. Anyway, love the videos Vanessa and much appreciate the reply.
Waiting for the r7 n r8 video, cameras than are both entry level at the same price. Cheers
They could have gone retro for some of the cameras though, don't know why canon won't do, especially on the APSC front.
Oooo that would be fun
Using the R3/R5 plus an M5 for a pocket camera. Picked up the R7 to add the 1.6X crop but was hoping it would also fit in my pocket, it doesn’t. Plan B in the works…
plan b?
I nearly bought the R10 but I decided to save up a little longer and get the R7. For only a (relatively) small amount of extra cash you're getting a more complete camera that the extra features just make it feel more professional for me (e.g. IBIS, dual card slots, bigger battery).
Nice!! Are you loving it?
@@VanessaJoy let you know when I buy it 😂 I can buy the r10 now but decided to wait based on all these videos. I'll save up a little and get the r7 and take the step up.
I know she directed this video more towards photographers... But be aware if your looking at buying either of these camera's for video only... They will overheat on you if your shooting in 4k60. Especially if your shooting in direct sun during the summer months. Canon camera's are well known to overheat... Including the r5.
Video capability particularly useful nice R7 sample Very informative 8mins do like the R7.
Glad it was helpful!
I'm mostly a Sony guy, just want to add a thanks to you for all the great info you've shared related to photography in general. Keep on rockin'
I appreciate that!
Hello!! I got the R10 a week ago and I really like it so far.. but I’m still debating if a should exchange it for the R7. The only thing that concerns me about the R7 is the no built- in flash. is that really important?? Or should I keep the R10 and get a better lenses? I’m not a pro and I just want the camera for traveling I have some nice pictures as a memories!
I would personally stick with the R 10 and like you said get some good glass
@@VanessaJoy which lenses would you recommend for good portraits, landscapes, etc?
I read that the flash on the R10 is not very good quality.@@JorgeLopez-yj3is
Both Good Venessa Joy. You also have to remember that not everyone has the Money to be able to afford the best. 99% of your viewers are not pros and just want a good Photo. As you know you can Capture a Fantistic Image with a 80d with good good Glass xox
Sure - that’s why I have the Budget Gear Shootout: ua-cam.com/play/PLsXiwWyXBJiZwOF18htYx888B0M9ZIR37.html&si=qC_s3dCaHaxOJsKh
But that’s not what this video is about 😉
I bought my daughter an R10 and she loves it, now im looking at getting the R7 for myself
Fun!
Great to hear your thoughts on these as the R7 is a potential upgrade after 8 years on my canon 700D however with the R8 now released im torn about finally going to full frame but i dont have budget for new lenses and im not even sure with an adaptor if my apsc lenses would do R8 justice or should stick to apsc for my portrait/fashion and product shoots - would you or your viewers have any wisdom on this?
best regards from London UK
I use my R7 for wildlife. It works great for that.
nice!
R7 vs R8
next up! once I get my hands on the R8 anyway... don't like doing reviews without even having touched the camera
@@VanessaJoy the so called prePREview
im a bit confused i hope you can explain to me.
aps-c got a crop factor on canon cameras of 1.6
but i heard that when you get the canon r10 4k 60 fps. there is a crop factor .
is when i use the 4k 24fps has zero crop factor, or the 4k 60fps has an additional crop factor to the basic 1.6?
It has an additional crop factor ☺️ crops on the sensor that’s in the camera
Thank you for sharing information on the caneras The R7 seems to have more robust features IBIS & 4k 60 etc which fit with my uses
You bet!
I recently bought the r10, feeling like the lack of IBIS is making a difference. Almost want to exchange for a r7.
Any lenses that you would suggest if I kept my r10 for better stabilization?
Really any lens that has IS will definitely help - depends on your budget of course but here are some:
RF24mm 1.8 macro IS
RF35mm 1.8 macro IS
RF85mm 1.8 macro IS
when i search for canon r10 videos on youtube most of the youtubers have compared both canon r7 and r10 videos by showing mostly r7 vidoes and photos and only 3-4 photo samples of r10.
Well for me personally, I just like shooting with the r7 more than the r 10 so therefore there are more pictures with the r7 🤷🏻♀️
My only complaint about my R7 is the "feel" of the camera which comes off as not as solid as my R. But, if it stands up to hard work (e.g., going on a hike), I guess that's all good.
yeah I'm big on the feel of a camera too. Love a good sturdy feeling camera
Hi Vanessa, Canon just released R8 & R50, may be this R7 vs. R10 was an old clip? If you happen to have video for R8 & R50, love to see that!
Coming soon!
6:28 seems a bit overkill for backup camera?? Idk, perhaps show us how you mounted it on your car. 🤔
Not for photographers who are shooting with an R5/R3/R6 for their main camera.
Lol I didn’t mount it, I just put it on the dash and didn’t make any sudden moves 😂
thanks for the concise comparison. BTW, your very young model is adorable.
Oh thank you!
R8 or no , be my first Canon camera , been on Pentax 80s , minolta , Nikon 90s 2000s , Panasonic up too now
I haven’t messed with it yet so not sure 🤷🏻♀️
I think it's just a ghost from the past to think along the old lines of "professional" and "not professional" with regards to modern cameras. Especially since most "non professionals" have moved to phones long ago, and the "enthusiast" segment has always craved the old "semiprofessional" line (same as the professionals often chose, because it was easier on the wrists and bank).
Your example of Canon is good. Both of these are fully usable as professional tools, as long as you remember to add good glass.
Similarly, in Nikon-land we have the z5, z6, z7, z9 lines in the full frame, and z30, z50, zfc in crop. z5 is the only clear "enthusiast" grade. Both z6 and z7 are the typical "workman's tools" (filling the old D7xx and D8xx lines), and the Z9 is the "flagship" model. z30 is a camera stripped of the viewfinder for only a display, making it as compact as possible. I'd say this is the only pure "consumer" grade in the lineup (while still being fully usable for the professional vlogger making more money than us). The z50 and the zfc are the oddballs, replacing the entire crop camera lineup of enthusiast D cameras, including the D500. But only the Zfc has any attempts at weather sealing, making it the only camera really useful outdoors on anything but sunny days.
Professional or Amateur camera? Look at the glass. I've done jobs with both Z7ii and Zfc (a smaller camera is less scary for a kid, because the kid can still see the human behind it). I think attaching a professional or not label to the camera houses we're having today makes no sense. They are tools. We had better be asking ourselves "is this the right tool for the job infront of me?", and if the answer is no, "in that case, which tool should I use?". My current toolchest solves the following: High resolution and dynamic range for when I have good light available or can use flash (Z7ii), Lower resolution but low noise on high iso for events and other places barely lit where I can't bring flash (Alas, still on mirrored, D750). Small, light body, I can bring with me everywhere that doesn't scare toddlers (Zfc). Of course, I'd want a Z9 and a chest full of exotics. But they wouldn't increase my income over what I already have.
ha - you're very right in those lines blurring quite a bit
@@VanessaJoy Those lines are as blurred as the horizon line behind a headshot at f/1.2
Do you do any street photography? I’m based in San Antonio would love to grab coffee, pick your brain about wedding photography and do some street photography ☕️📸
I don't :-) lol I'm too afraid I'll get punched in the face
@@VanessaJoy hahah 🤣
Cool
thanks for watching :-)
Which one is better in low light high iso?
The r7
Nice video goodlookin Vanessa. Im gonna buy the R7 but im not 100% sure... Have a eos R5 and i love it.
Enjoy it :-) It's a good backup for the R5
@@VanessaJoy Ok thx for your answer, Its going to be the R7 😀
Awesome and informative as usual! Good luck Vanessa and thank you so much!
Thanks for watching!
Vanessa you are my joy
Vannessa is our Joy
Vanessa is Joy
haha thanks
I had to rewatch the video a second time - didn’t hear one word on the first viewing.
Costco has a great auditory center
Nothing wrong with my hearing. 😄
can u show R10 1080p 60fps?
I’ll have to do that!
I love r7 is powerfull and small.
Yes!
I would love to create with the R7!
it's fun one!
...glass glass glass cit.
huh?
The R7 is interesting, and at its price point under $2k, makes anyone still considering a 5D mk iv to think twice.
I just skipped a 5d4 sale for the R7 for £100 more!
The R7 is better for those of us with bear claw hands... and I prefer the bigger battery. Plus the "auto level" feature in the R7 is just fantastic, for both stills and video.
ha yeah me included!
"Bear claw hands..." LOL!
Glad to see Canon giving APS-Cs some love too. Not every camera needs to cost an arm and a leg!
BTW you remind me of a young Winona Ryder here! ^_^
Thanks for watching! Haha love Winona
i think that if a person has a 5d4 they would move to the r7 after all 5d4 is a pro level camera
thats a good thought
Vanessa, VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION because I'm gonna buy TODAY but if you only shoot VIDEO (I'm learning photo but) I only shoot video. If YOU were ME would you buy the R7 or the R8? Same price BUT R7 has ibis and 2 card slots but the R8 is full frame. Thanks for all your gold.
Bo
hmmmm I haven't used the R8 so I don't like to recommend cameras I haven't even touched... prob the R7 just for the IBIS
@@VanessaJoy I appreciate it. by the way, you are a beautiful human. (politely and respectfully)
I’d bet a Yankee dime Jared will be the only one she replies to! 😂😂
you clearly didn't look - I've responded to ever comment... even the rude ones.
@@VanessaJoy Well good for you. 😎
I started shooting with film. Double card slots make me laugh. If you can't sleep without duo card slots are you really a pro? Two cards do not make for a pro. Knowing what you are doing makes the pro. I am not saying backup is not good just that it does not mean professional. Plus duo slots allows one for video and one for photo and there goes backup out the window.
That’s like saying you started on a horse and buggy and if I professional driver can’t live without gasoline then are they really a pro… with new tech comes raising the bar in the professional standards and to me dial cards slots is now a professional standard.
Also, starting shooting on film does not give you a badge of honor. I started on film as well, but that is absolutely irrelevant to this conversation.
I am sorry. I thought you new about photography. You see we had one iso and one film speed for a given roll of film. We also captured great images. Not a badge of honor just not spray and pray. Your saying you need Two card slots to have pro equipment. I said a pro can shoot on any good camera system even with one card slot and get and deliver pro results. Get real all cameras have compromises the least of them being two card slots. If you do not know what you are doing 3 card slots will not help. If you do one will work fine. And I believe I said two are nice to have so grow up and play with the big boys.
Put your brain in gear and reread it.
Why do people stir up argument? Just enjoy the video and go home.
@@anotherintrospekt6596 you are making yourself look bad. I made a statement of fact. I also agreed with her. You are stirring the pot to your detriment. Just facts.
Love my R7 for wildlife; )
definitely nice having that lens "boost"