This and the old pre-recorded stop announcements bring back good memories of riding Caltrain up from the south bay, and then Line N to the beach on the Bredas. ✌
Grew up with these announcements. I loved them, but I'm glad that they were changed. Inbound, outbound, and announcing the final stop instead of the line itself could have been confusing to folks not from SF. I do miss them though
Gonna miss the muni lady. So iconic. I always liked when the N announcements came because it was a “two car NN”which made no organizational sense to repeat the “N” I do like the new announcements though they’re much better.
It's because the original idea was to couple trains from different lines through the subway and uncouple them when they left it. So you could have "two car LM" and know you should get on the second car to stay on the M when it got to West Portal or "three car NNJ" and know to stay on the first two cars to continue on the N at Duboce. This ended up being abandoned very early on, so we got the announcements that made "no organizational sense" for years.
@@Rubycon99 Actually - the coupling of different lines was done in the 80's / 90's with the Boeing cars. You two car K-M cars that split at West Portal and Sloat or K-L lines that split at West Portal. But I didn't think about the fact that changed when the new cars were introduced.
@@ckildegaard Oh, come on! Sure, the old Muni ones were serviceable and could have lasted a little longer. But the BART ones genuinely suck. They're 70s sounding robotic voices that are genuinely unclear some of the times. Why do some people let nostalgia undermine service quality on our transit systems? It's such a silly tendency in general. These are transit systems that are supposed to serve people! Shouldn't we want them to be as good as they can possibly be? Why turn off riders with crappy old nostalgia technology when these systems are already severely challenged and my not even be there in the future? I just don't get it.
There's no four car trains. It basically just means it's a 2 car train. In the past with the old Boeing cars, they could run 3 car trains that could branch off on different lines after exiting the subway. My guess is that the announcements were fitted for the possibility of the breda cars becoming 3 car trains. Never happened though since the breda cars are kinda crappy.
@@Qazwsxedc165 Oh, yeah! Make no mistake, a lot of the reasons why Muni has had trouble with its infrastructure, vehicle reliability, fewer cars and fewer trains than needed - all of this stuff was due to the Bredas having trash reliability and tons of mechanical issues. The new Siemens trains have 4x to 5x better than the Bredas! Even when the Siemens trains were brand new and were going through their customary teething issues, they were already more reliable than the Bredas! Muni really got shafted with the Bredas. We should all be elated that they are finally gone!
Muni is a much safer and friendlier transit system in San Francisco, especially the cable cars. Also their vehicles are a lot cleaner apart from the buses. As for BART though, most of the train lines are sketchy and very unfriendly, and a lot of BART’s trains are very dirty and beat up. The stations are also very dirty and rough, especially the Fruitvale and Civic Center Stations. Also, drugs, crime, homelessness, and uncalled-for activities are commonly seen on their stations. If you ride the Muni metro light rail, you will feel a lot safer than on BART.
I don't know about that. BART seems a lot safer almost everywhere throughout its system than Muni. Any crazy person can jump onto Muni. BART at least has some security. Muni is basically as messed up as the given neighborhood that it passes through with no barriers for the "nastiness" to penetrate the system. Plus, unlike Muni, BART is at least trying to improve the situation with new fare inspectors, security guards/ambassadors, and some more cops patrolling inside the system. Muni does almost none of that.
This and the old pre-recorded stop announcements bring back good memories of riding Caltrain up from the south bay, and then Line N to the beach on the Bredas. ✌
Great video, I will forever miss those announcements.
I still kind of miss the early 2000s announcements on Muni Metro.
5:52 The slow acceleration sounds like San Diego and Valley Metro Siemens S700.
Awww man! I loved those announcements... What do the new ones sound like?
The new ones are very similar although the not say how many cars.
Grew up with these announcements. I loved them, but I'm glad that they were changed. Inbound, outbound, and announcing the final stop instead of the line itself could have been confusing to folks not from SF. I do miss them though
Gonna miss the muni lady. So iconic. I always liked when the N announcements came because it was a “two car NN”which made no organizational sense to repeat the “N” I do like the new announcements though they’re much better.
It's because the original idea was to couple trains from different lines through the subway and uncouple them when they left it. So you could have "two car LM" and know you should get on the second car to stay on the M when it got to West Portal or "three car NNJ" and know to stay on the first two cars to continue on the N at Duboce. This ended up being abandoned very early on, so we got the announcements that made "no organizational sense" for years.
@@Rubycon99 Actually - the coupling of different lines was done in the 80's / 90's with the Boeing cars. You two car K-M cars that split at West Portal and Sloat or K-L lines that split at West Portal. But I didn't think about the fact that changed when the new cars were introduced.
I love these announcements.
I miss this I grew up in SF 1989 live in Boston now
I miss them already. Bart is planning on doing the same for George and Gracie 😔😔😔.
Nooooooo!!
@@ckildegaard BART actually stated that they have no plans to get rid of them right now.
@@ckildegaard Oh, come on! Sure, the old Muni ones were serviceable and could have lasted a little longer. But the BART ones genuinely suck. They're 70s sounding robotic voices that are genuinely unclear some of the times.
Why do some people let nostalgia undermine service quality on our transit systems? It's such a silly tendency in general. These are transit systems that are supposed to serve people! Shouldn't we want them to be as good as they can possibly be? Why turn off riders with crappy old nostalgia technology when these systems are already severely challenged and my not even be there in the future?
I just don't get it.
@@TohaBgood2 there's a thing called foamers, whenever they see something new, they shun the hell out of it...also don't forget the boomers as well
I miss this old announcement audio too!
What does it mean when they repeat the line letter twice, like "Four car M-M in three minutes?"
There's no four car trains. It basically just means it's a 2 car train. In the past with the old Boeing cars, they could run 3 car trains that could branch off on different lines after exiting the subway. My guess is that the announcements were fitted for the possibility of the breda cars becoming 3 car trains. Never happened though since the breda cars are kinda crappy.
@@Qazwsxedc165 Oh, yeah! Make no mistake, a lot of the reasons why Muni has had trouble with its infrastructure, vehicle reliability, fewer cars and fewer trains than needed - all of this stuff was due to the Bredas having trash reliability and tons of mechanical issues.
The new Siemens trains have 4x to 5x better than the Bredas! Even when the Siemens trains were brand new and were going through their customary teething issues, they were already more reliable than the Bredas! Muni really got shafted with the Bredas. We should all be elated that they are finally gone!
@@TohaBgood2 They’re still a classic to have around.
Nice video!
-Kyle
I think Buffalo NY should get these new trains
I will miss them but where are the bredas?
The first clip had a Breda train.
3:18 Something?
Where was the location that have this?
@@rachelfox4999 Cool.
Cool thumbnail
Muni is a much safer and friendlier transit system in San Francisco, especially the cable cars. Also their vehicles are a lot cleaner apart from the buses. As for BART though, most of the train lines are sketchy and very unfriendly, and a lot of BART’s trains are very dirty and beat up. The stations are also very dirty and rough, especially the Fruitvale and Civic Center Stations. Also, drugs, crime, homelessness, and uncalled-for activities are commonly seen on their stations. If you ride the Muni metro light rail, you will feel a lot safer than on BART.
I don't know about that. BART seems a lot safer almost everywhere throughout its system than Muni. Any crazy person can jump onto Muni. BART at least has some security. Muni is basically as messed up as the given neighborhood that it passes through with no barriers for the "nastiness" to penetrate the system.
Plus, unlike Muni, BART is at least trying to improve the situation with new fare inspectors, security guards/ambassadors, and some more cops patrolling inside the system. Muni does almost none of that.
I’m surprised they didn’t go for a gender neutral announcer. OMG....Pat from SNL would have been excellent!
End of an era.
The keep the woman voice on the inbound trains still!