It gives you a nice view of how badly the rails need to be trued. (Track work has been deferred for decades and trains are limited to 30mph due to the poor condition of the tracks.)
Yup,you can just see how damm slow the trains are even underground.Plus when the trains go outbound,they literally "bounce and wobble" abit.The rails are kind off squiggly too.
@@Cloudkirb BART is a different system that was built at a different time and is in a very different technical state than Muni. Muni has 100-year-old tunnels and track. Also, BART has been doing track repairs for a while now, so they are gradually addressing the problem.
I would agree. They used to run 3 car trains with the Boeings but the Bredas can only do 2 car trains. I have heard the new cars can do 3 car trains again so that will be interesting to see
@@m0istl0la97 Theoretically, the Central Subway can accommodate three-car trains. But they did not plan for it to happen until much later, so some station remodeling will be needed to accommodate that. Muni thinks that this extra capacity won't be needed for at least another 20 years, and probably after the new Siemens trains are ready to be retired.
@@TohaBgood2 to be fair the ridership they projected were super exaggerated and we are definitely not gonna get “3-car needed” for the central subway until after we get a Washington Square extension
@@m0istl0la97 Plus they can also double or triple the frequency of the T. They can create a shuttle to Caltrain. There are many other options for increasing capacity. Three-car trains are not at all mandatory to dramatically increase capacity.
I like the old breda LRV propulsion better then the new ones because they sound more soothing. If people that live there report that there annoyed then they might change the traction system.
Yeah, but the Bredas are a complete mess in every other way. They have completely atrocious reliability rates, about 1/4th of the new Siemens trains. In fact, the fat unreliable Bredas are such a disaster of an LRV that you can trace most of Muni's problems to them (equipment delays, rapid track degradation due to weight, signaling issues, etc.) We will all be better off when Muni finally gets rid of them, even if it is somewhat nostalgic to see them go.
Forest Hill turned 100 this year! This station was always one of my favorites.
Def agreed
This is cool. I heard this is the oldest subway station west of Chicago.
Yep it’s pretty damn old it was built like early 1900s I think.
Yep. It's actually the oldest subway station outside NYC, Boston or Philly.
Oldest outside of the Northeast. Chicago's underground tunnels were built a little later than the first Muni tunnels.
The M Is Now Finally Back To Its Light Rail Form!
When I was little I used to get on the L line to the zoo when we got off to go to the escalator I would say "bye train"
Omg when I was waiting for a specific train, then I would see a train that was not the one I was riding pass by and I would say the EXACT SAME THING😂
That dynamic brake resistor buzz is niceeee
Muni Metro is one of my favorites in Bay Area
That's an interesting track base.
I know, right? This station used to be served by streetcars before it was upgraded to light rail in the 70's.
I've seen the abandoned Eureka Valley station! It's kinda creepy. I hear they use it as an emergency exit now.
My favorite train is the n Judah it goes near my house I live in cole valley
It gives you a nice view of how badly the rails need to be trued. (Track work has been deferred for decades and trains are limited to 30mph due to the poor condition of the tracks.)
Yup,you can just see how damm slow the trains are even underground.Plus when the trains go outbound,they literally "bounce and wobble" abit.The rails are kind off squiggly too.
Yea you can feel on the train how terrible the tracks are. Everything's a bit wobbly especially on Bart
@@Cloudkirb BART is a different system that was built at a different time and is in a very different technical state than Muni. Muni has 100-year-old tunnels and track.
Also, BART has been doing track repairs for a while now, so they are gradually addressing the problem.
Hi y’all.A lot has changed after 5 years right?
How many cars can the underground stations hold? It seems to be at least 3-4 of them
I would agree. They used to run 3 car trains with the Boeings but the Bredas can only do 2 car trains. I have heard the new cars can do 3 car trains again so that will be interesting to see
Forest hill and the new central subway can only handle 2 cars
So if we were to ever see 3 car or 4 car trains it would be J or N
@@m0istl0la97 Theoretically, the Central Subway can accommodate three-car trains. But they did not plan for it to happen until much later, so some station remodeling will be needed to accommodate that. Muni thinks that this extra capacity won't be needed for at least another 20 years, and probably after the new Siemens trains are ready to be retired.
@@TohaBgood2 to be fair the ridership they projected were super exaggerated and we are definitely not gonna get “3-car needed” for the central subway until after we get a Washington Square extension
@@m0istl0la97 Plus they can also double or triple the frequency of the T. They can create a shuttle to Caltrain. There are many other options for increasing capacity. Three-car trains are not at all mandatory to dramatically increase capacity.
I like the old breda LRV propulsion better then the new ones because they sound more soothing. If people that live there report that there annoyed then they might change the traction system.
Yeah, but the Bredas are a complete mess in every other way. They have completely atrocious reliability rates, about 1/4th of the new Siemens trains. In fact, the fat unreliable Bredas are such a disaster of an LRV that you can trace most of Muni's problems to them (equipment delays, rapid track degradation due to weight, signaling issues, etc.)
We will all be better off when Muni finally gets rid of them, even if it is somewhat nostalgic to see them go.
Where even are you?, the trains look like the ny trains but with less cars, nice vid doe.
This was taken on the San Francisco Muni Metro. It's a light rail system but some stations are underground.
Tech and Transit oh nice 👍🏻
It don’t look like nyc
BART has more cars and are longer, they operate a maximum length of ten cars and run on wide gauge tracks.
@@antglizzy7720 Well... they both have wheels I guess¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Muni go 1CAR K CAR L CAR NEW MUNI AND BART SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO
Tech and transit why aren't you at New York?
I was visiting family. I'm back in New York now.
Tech and Transit ok