In the OG Price treated Soap like a son which makes it even more impactful, And thinking Price's first words to Soap when he joined the SAS was "How'd a muppet like you pass selection" and his last being "I'm sorry" before Soap died in his arms made me remember all they've been through from CoD4 MW to MW3, R.I.P Soap and the rest of Task Force 141.
Makes me curious about how 2020s Yuri would play in the role of taking down Makarov. World War 3 is going to happen in MWIV, which they gotta flush out Makarov as a character. It felt rushed regarding his reintroduction.
@@Ramxie35agree but what did you expect? They got ambushed just like the old soap death but this time he died faster and can't even leave a final word before dead
In the new version Soap died like a side character in the original version he died like he wrote the damn story because he actually did after he killed Zakhaev and he made a man that survived Gulag to cry and mourn his death like he lost his own son.
There are so many things wrong with Soap's death in the 2023 version. First Makarov and a group of his men just come out of nowhere and take Soap and Price completely by surprise. Then Soap gets up in front of Makarov's men and stabs Makarov in the right side of his neck, but Makarov is somehow able to not only survive this, but also shrug it off, and then overpower and shoot Soap in the head with his right arm. Then it turns out while all of this was happening, Ghost and Gaz were just a few feet away and could've just shot Makarov while Soap and Price were on the ground. After all of this, Makarov just runs away as if he didn't just have a knife sticking out of his collarbone a few seconds ago.
No. It’s said literally at the beginning of the mission makarov and his men had taken over a train in the tunnel and had bombs planet, you were both making your way towards each other. Soap stabs makarov in the shoulder, not neck, and gaz and ghost arrive just seconds too late as makarov and his goons make their escape. It happens really fast, like in 6 seconds. By the skin of their teeth he got away
@@ZetsuboNoShima In this situation, the difference between neck and shoulder is minimal at best. Makarov isn't a massive guy. People with his physique don't just shrug off being stabbed in the upper/middle trapezius area like that. Suffering a laceration to the muscles in that area is a debilitating injury and would make it impossible for someone to move their upper arm or at least severely limit its movement, yet somehow Makarov was able to fight off Soap and shoot him with his right arm. Makarov was also stabbed with a 4-5 inch long blade, so he should've been bleeding profusely, we even see blood gush out of him when the knife goes in. Pain tolerance is one thing, but no matter much willpower someone has, they can't overcome damage to their motor functions. As for Gaz and Ghost's arrival, the crossover platform they were on was quite long. If you look at gameplay, you can see the bomb, which is where Makarov would've been standing completely in the open, from the entry point into the platform. You even shoot at Makarov's men standing around the bomb from the entry point before you actually enter the platform proper. For Gaz and Ghost to be literal feet away from Price the second Soap hits the floor from being shot in the head means that Gaz and Ghost would've been on the platform with everyone else or at the very least at the entry point when Soap and Price were on the ground before Soap gets up to stab Makarov. There are no obstructions between the entry point and the bomb, so Gaz and Ghost would've had a clear shot. Even if they didn't want to risk friendly fire, they could've just shot one of Makarov's men or even just fired warning shots, to get Makarov to shift his attention and probably flee because he's standing out in the open. It doesn't make sense for Gaz and Ghost to do nothing when they were clearly in a position to do something. It also doesn't make sense that Makarov didn't even seem to realize that they were approaching.
4:34 Most people don't realize the significance of this moment. The pistol that Price lays on Soap's chest is the same pistol that he slid over to Soap just as Imran Zakhaev was about to execute Price at the ending of MW!...It's the same pistol Soap returned to Captain Price when they rescued him from the Gulag in MW2! It's sad to think it probably ended up in the hands of some scumbag Russian after they stormed the position. Soap's body also stayed behind :(
Don't waste your time explaining, kids these days don't understand what call of duty used to be and why it was the most sold out games of their primes each year, the multiplayer was something but the story mode was worthy of hollywood not the trash we have now with 3h of a DMZ tutorial and sold for 70 bucks
MW3(2011)'s version of Soap' s death was better because it was unexpected, but MW3(2023)'s version was the completely unintended, unexpected. Bro died because of disarming a bomb, while the other got bombed
@@KooperMustom-xu3kmit makes no sense to have ghost and gaz and even price survive longer than soap in such a way. Remember, price was originally suppose to die in mw1 with soap as the lone survivor, mw2 was originally gonna be soaps own road. They honestly could have did more on their original ideals. We don’t even have Ramirez, foley, Griggs, sandman + delta force, etc.
@@agentlinrov1474the old one had more important to call of duty they made people fall in love with the characters. The deaths were way much impactful because you grow with the characters.
The only thing I didn't like about Soap's death is that in the new version, there was no emotion, sadness, regret, crying for Soap's death. He is simply shot in the forehead and those in front just stared. When they mourn him, they just remember how he was, that's all. I didn't feel much of a sense of loss in his death. In the old version, the fact that Price regrets his death, suffers, cries and tries not to let him go, makes you much more emotional. As if I wasn't saddened enough by his death, I felt even more sorry to see Price regretting it. No matter what I say, the old one is better 💔
@@chantalh.v.9989 Eso es verdad. Como dijo Sheperd: En la guerra no hay amigos, solo enemigos. Y eso es verdad, hacerse amigo de alguien solo te dara mas dolor mental por que tarde o temrpano lo veras morir.
@@chantalh.v.9989exacto SUS COMPAÑEROS en este caso fue un amigo, fue muy absurda la muerte del nuevo soap, si lees comentarios más arriba de este te darás cuenta que no tiene de realista nada, y no vas venir a decir " hay es realista por qué fue rápida y cruda bla bla bla " se sintió una muerte muy rápida como si fuera de un soldado más no bro es soap, prácticamente un protagonista esa muerte fue muy mal digo si lo hubieran ejecutado mejor estaría bien pero, porfavor
I like 2011's scene because the game gives you this sense of impending doom that hits like a truck; you're fighting through endless waves of enemies to try and save a dead man walking, only to see just how bad it is once you lay him on the table. On the other hand, 2023's scene is interesting because it kind of leaves you...I guess, shell-shocked? It happens so fast, you hardly have time to process it until after you've dealt with the more pressing issue at hand.
It's funny that Gaz and Ghost literally did nothing to cover them as if they were just waiting for something big is about to happen. They just came out of nowhere. Most campaign of all time. 👏
Meh. There was literally no significant reaction to his death in the new on other than that. It felt like they just threw in ghosts little pet name in there to illicit sadness from normies.
It's tearjerking because only Ghost calls him Johnny. He calls him Johnny in a playful manner, because he knew Soap hated it. It happened from the entirety of MW2 (2022) to MW3 (2023). Also, your paragraph was very difficult to understand, so if you could rephrase, that would be much appreciated. @@thehamburgler2267
@@thehamburgler2267yeah you’re forgetting the scene where they spread his ashes but ok. There’s no time for emotion in the middle of combat, they still had a bomb to disarm
I get your point, but remember they are soldiers at the end of the day, They can't be emotional during a mission, that can get them killed. Regardless of what i said, the OG its better.
I don't understand. Why in MWIII doesn't have a Revenge Mission to kill Makarov for Soap's death. That's the make us don't get it. This game instead end with Closing Credits. But in post-credit scene. We only watch Price assassinating Shepherd on cutscene. Not Makarov. Just like that. And the Price leave. And continue the closing credits.
Random TF-141 member: Hey Soap aren't you gonna wear a helmet? Soap: Nah man i'm good. A few days later at Soap's funeral: Random TF-141 member: Should've wore a helmet.....
In my opinion, I think soaps death in the 2011 game is much better than the 2023 one because let's be real why tf would they do soap like that shooting him in the head like he's trash, but the way they go about soaps death is more impactful in the 2023 version [talking about the scene where they're on the cliff pouring out soaps ashes]
2023 is better 2011 they treated him like a side character like they could have stop the bleeding and saved him on his this is more realistic he had him in a arm lock plus he was injured they didn’t treat him like trash 2011 they did he fighting makarov 2023 face to face
@@ghost_face1pr137 You are on some serious meds man. Soap's death in MW3 2023 felt meaningless, whereas in MW3 2011 was just perfect, meaningful and sad. Hit like a truck.
@@thatsmolbirb2519Though 2023 is absolutely realistic every day every one dies in a battle I wasn't really shocked when he died tbh both 2011 or 2023. But here Soap makes one mistake and does not disarm Makarov and it costed it his life. Unlike in 2011 where he needed a dramatic long entry to die if that moment was realistic Soap would've already died half way getting himself to Price due to blood loss
@@TheMentallyTiredI agree, it was realistic, however, let's not forget that this game is supposed to be a "cinematic experience". Now tell me which one felt more cinematic...soap's death in 2011 or 2023? The game wasn't even realistic for 90% of it, where the characters one man army through the enemies. When presenting a cinematic product there are two things that sit at the top of the list: A compelling story and good character development, neither of which this product had. "Realism" can be left to games like SQUAD or other mil-sim type products. This is only my opinion and I'm no keyboard warrior so, I respect your opinion and have a nice day/night
The new one makes it feel like he kinda died for nothing. Obviously he protected Price, but still. I appreciate how they scattered his ashes in Scotland, that was a nice touch.
This feels like yuri's death but with soap. In 2011 you fought what seemed like endless waves of enemies while escorting a dying soap trying to save him but in 2023 he just gets shot in the face by makarvov just like yuri
It's a bit diffrent yuri in the original game walked up from a long distance after a devastating building through the gut injury and then managed to save price for a bit
Thing is Yuri sacrificed himself since he knew he wasn't gonna make it, he showed his loyalty to stopping Makarov. He finally went down after 2 shots, and you see his Character arc is finished with redeeming himself by putting his life on the line so Makarov could die.
Now why does Modern Warfare gotta make me cry like this 14 (ish) years later, it wasn't as hard hitting as the original but... still. I can't believe he died again!
@@weplo1597 the main problem is that IW was so scared of killing any character from mw2019 and mwii. alex should've never survived mw2019 and why would trained soldiers like soap and ghost not confirm graves' body? it just doesnt make any sense.
@@IMysticCobaltInah ghost and gaz need to die, same with price (price was originally suppose to die in mw1). The original story plan was that soap becomes a captain and finishes the bads after mw1 with his taskforce. We haven’t even gotten griggs, foley and Ramirez, plus delta force. Makarov and soap plus yuri was suppose to be the final battle in the original.
The OG Mw3 had the emotion and music as well. Starting from the moment when SOAP and Yuri forcefully had to jump out of the building, which was surprising and shocking as well. I was shocked to think SOAP is gone. But I was glad to see him alive. On the way to the safehouse, i was thinking all his moments and how he survived Shepherd's stabbing and everything. But i also felt it's the end as i saw him getting lifeless and losing his life slowly while entering the safehouse. After his death, Price going back to MacMillan was even more emotional because it was about an old man seeking his revenge for his fallen comrade and companion.
What the remake lacks of are the intensity and tension that the predecessors had. At the time, CoD campaigns were so intense that we got dragged to what was happening around the world and how we made bonds with the characters; CoD campaigns now doesn't quite have that intense feeling we all felt because somehow we got disconnected to what is happening and not much bonds are made in the process of the campaigns. Also lack of Hans Zimmer soundtrack :)
Soap's death in 2011: OMG my brother in arms I knew you so well, you was such cool character I've spend a lot of years with you and now you leaving me im crying Soap's death in 2023: who the hell was that
I like the soap scene in the game released in 2011, the scene where we defend our best friend until they reach their destination, even though it's in vain, it really makes a very deep wound, while the 2023 one is more of a drama and makes us shocked.
@@lussurio2325but it's a video game. And there was zero reaction in the new one. Just a stupid short clip on "he was a good man" The new cod tells the story through cutscenes. Dogshit.
The thing about the old one is that we assumed Soap was unstoppable. We played as him in the first game and in the second he got stabbed, ripped out the knife, and threw it at Shepherd. So by the time we got to the third the entire time during that mission I never thought he would actually die until he was on that table. In the new one (I’m refusing to play the campaign because I’m so mad at how short it is) we don’t have that same connection with him. Yeah he was awesome (and hot) in the second game but we didn’t know him in the first game so we already don’t have the same connection to him. Given how short this new game is I highly doubt we get much more of that connection. I’m just disappointed that they had a great template for an awesome story and they threw it all out the window for their greed.
2009: Soap injured by a Makarov's bomb trap and then died from his wounds beside his friend Price, giving him last word before his death on the battlefield. 2023: Soap got shot by Makarov, still beating Makarov whilst injured and then got shot to death in the head. His friends spread his ashes on the British coast. Both versions, Soap died like a soldier beside his friend, killed by Makarov.
@@WrathfulCrane10 he meant that he died from makarovs bomb trap because of his injury in the stomach that shepherd stabbed it on him that his injury wasnt recovered yet so in makarovs bomb trap happened he died because of blood loss
You can tell Soap was never meant to die in the 2023 version This was definitely a last minute decision as the game was probably planned to be a DLC and not a whole game
I remember the first time my little brother played the original, he bawled his eyes out to his this game. Even now, he still finds the original death heartbreaking
This is actual weight to the game and how to handle the death of a beloved character. OG MW3 knew how to give a main character a ceremonial death. New MW3 just had him die like a another NPC and give him a cheesy funeral with even more cheesy dialogue.
The problem with modern warfare is that it is a whole new different game compared to OG MW Trilogy. If they didn't used characters and some plot elements from the original trilogy , i dont think anyone would be comparing it that much. I still like both versions. The feel of loss in 2011 version is immediate and intense while the feel of loss is created through the later cinematics and cutscenes. Apples and oranges.
OG modern warfare: You're fighting a cunning villain who uses deception and trickery to get the upper hand, the event catches you off guard in a manner that isn't contrived or unreasonable, the death is as unexpected as it is emotion wrecking. You couldn't have seen it coming, and it was at least moderately grounded in authenticity. Soap was a player character and companion that's been with you for all three of the games; you feel it with the emotional music score and all the subtle and not so subtle- *meaningful*- details in how the other characters deal with his death. Years later, you still feel the gravitas of that moment. new modern warfare: you're fighting a stereotypical OP action movie supervillain apparently who can just magically sneak up on you with a full squad of men and shrug off (what should be) a disabling stab wound into his right shoulder/collarbone to uno reverse card judo bullshit shoot Soap in the head. There's nowhere near the same level of reaction from other characters Soap's death is completely contrived and treated as cheap and easy shock value more than anything else. man, I could rip the new MW3's Soap death scene seven different new assholes if I had the time and consideration for being more articulate in just how terrible they did it. As is, I just don't care enough about the remake or the franchise to give more than enough of a shit to say much more than this, and to simply say it's god awful.
Price in the original MW3: There's a clocktower in Hereford, where the names of the dead are inscribed. We try to honor their deeds, even as there faces fade from our memory. Those memories are all that's left, when the bastards have taken everything else. Price in MW III: Mission acomplished, oh, and also there is one KIA, but honestly, who cares, LMAO.
The original is hard hitting and in your face. You have to process it as you are fighting for your life. The newer one is more subtle, yet sudden. More poetic. Like how life can hit in the blink of an eye and once that blink is over, everything has changed forever.
Arif, what was special about the original version was that the huge price was affected by the death of the soap, to the point that in the last mission of the game he said at the beginning, “This is for the soap.”
The thing is og mw3 felt more impactful because in the original trilogy it was a nonstop massacre of main characters like soap, roach, gaz, ghost, etc. This campaign however only one main character died, the rest are ok (as for now), no risks taken, no high stakes and no emotion whatsoever, everything was just a snoozefest.
Thing is your right and your not in the orginal Modern warfare series we start with call of duty 4 the main 2 villains die and some of your troops, MW2 ghost, Roach, and TF141 along with general Shepherd die, private Allen and others, MW3 Yuri, soap, sandman and some of delta team, Makarov
2009: "NOOOOOOOOOOOO! SOAAAAAAP!" *dramatic music and last breath* 2023: "One KIA" *Gets shot without any music and drama* Let's say - one is like an opera. And second - is like close to reality. Similar to ordinary days in PMC/Military during the war conflict. Is it bad? Up to you. But I like it. Or more like - I agree with this death concept. Well it won't be memorized like his previous death, but... At least you can feel it through his teammates who felt that loss.
An interesting thing to note about the original, the mission up to Soap’s death almost mirror’s CoD4’s “One Shot, One Kill” mission, where Price had to snipe Zakhaev and escape carrying MacMillan. There, things despite the dire circumstances of the escape end up working out alright. Here though, things go south before you even take a shot as rather than being met with a target, you see an ally since game 1 strapped to a chair rigged with explosives, and despite Soap’s initial wound not seeming so bad, as the mission progresses you see his condition deteriorate. I love how all the original MW trilogy titles manage to find new ways to use missions they had setup before and play on what you expect in a clever way, instead of just either doing the exact same thing again or throwing everything interesting about the original idea out in a cheaper idea of subversion. Or to put it more succinctly, MW3’s campaign was a lot cooler than it got credit for.
I feel like Soap's death in MW23 was just too early for that. But Soap's death in MW3 (2011) was surprisingly and emotionally well to show the story continuing in past 3 original Modern Warfares.
i think the 2023 was more heavy because it came out of nowhere, it felt more real and soap just dropped cold on the floor, the 2011 one was way more theatrical so it didn't hit me as hard as this one did. Damn, Soap and Ghost was the best duo for me in this series, the next mw titles wont be the same without him.
@@PiinkkBunnyy16 i don't know, following all context from mwii It felt like ghost's reaction was as good as price in the og trilogy. Ghost didn't really care about team mates as the way he did after the bond created with soap in Mexico, dude was on his knees helpless lamenting what happened to Johnny, a thing that you wouldnt see from him before this bond.
@@xXFlameHaze92Xx yes and no. What happened is the same, someone prevents Makarov from shooting price in the face and gets shot, but i think that not only we created a sympath with this soap more than og Yuri, but in yuri's case there is the slow motion and even the Headshot is more like what you see in movies, is heroic, he is thrown backwards and shit, with soap the thing is just a quick tragedy, he gets shot and "turns off", like in real life, i think it had more shocking value, but thats just my opinion.
EVERYTHING about the new trilogy (except for MW19 which is great) is more theatrical than the original trilogy. The way he died in mw3 2023 is just dumb. In the original MW3 he falls off from a fucking building, you can feel price's despair because of his death, and his death has consequences and makes you want to kill Makarov so bad. In the new trilogy "oh he's dead whatever". I see what i mean with the fact that he just dies and "turns off" in an instant like many deaths in the last of us part 2, which gives it more shock value, but they could have done it way way better.
My biggest problem with the new games version is how he was barley a character before he died he got introduced in mw2 2022, then he only really got one character building scene which was the stealth mission with ghost price and him never interacted then he dies i dont even know him and prices relationship or the one that was starting with ghost you can kill a character off fast and brutal but man do the character work first so i actually feel it, they are trying to go off earlier cod games so we are like "soap no" but the dude aint even the same character
By the way it's also worth mentioning that soap was technically still injured because of the stab wound he got from general Shepherd and in the beginning of the MW3 they performed surgery (i think) which why you had protect him in the third mission but he wasn't at 100% because his wounds hasn't fully healed
What makes the original MW3 so striking is how they drop a plot point that Makarov was associated with Yuri, then literally drop you into the action before that can really sink in. When you have the chance to really consider the information and believe Soap could survive, he succumbs to the wounds. Price leaving the 1911, the same pistol Soap returned back in MW2 with Soap's body also gives that personal touch since he was the last of the original SAS squad Price had.
Although 2009 Soap is more impactful, 2023's Soap is somewhat bittersweet. Both died tryna do good but 2023 gave him proper goodbye. RIP to one of the best
At 2023 they gave him a somewhat bittersweet goodbye while at 2011 makarov mocked it at prices face what about mac tavish tell me price price how much did it took him to die ? I destroyed your world piece by piece its only a matter of time until I find you Well you don’t have to look far
@@CopperheadAirsoftexactly! the OG Makarov was a cold-blooded mastermind, provoking ww3 for two times (the second time being an attack on europe) and almost destroying all his enemies. the new Makarov is just a psycho, who's like "should I kill one of my most experienced soldiers because he made a minor mistake? hell yeah!", plus being OP in the first half of the game and then acting as an absolute idiot in the second half. like not changing the plan after your significant allies who know a shit ton about you get captured, etc. the COD writers are worse and worse each year, tbh
@@antiprime295not to mention makarov only got his hands dirty at the start to begin his plan. After that, he truly just mastermind the rest of it. It really added to the always lurking and scheming throughout mw2- mw3
At the end of the day they're soldiers, they had a job to do they knew what they were getting themselves into and that they might not come back. So naturally in the new one they were fairly emotionless, however by the tone of prices voice and the mood of the scene you can tell they all felt it. Where as in the old one they use visual emotion to get across the point. I personally preferer none, as i appreciated the reality of the new one, but also remember the old one which made me really feel his death. Edit: To anyone saying they did soap dirty and made him look like trash, well no sh**, to Makarov he was a piece of trash. Nothing but an obstacle in the way of his plan, one which needed to be thrown away like trash although he wasn't that. At least this time soap had a flighting chance and wasn't blown up from a distance.
4:05 shows how much hell Price was going through after Soap's death in MW3 2011 and if and when we get mw3 2011 remastered and we see this scene again, i'm gonna be bawling my eyes out again after witnessing soap's death again 😢
The 2011 and 2023 version are awesome but for different reasons. 2011: More Hollywood style drama action approach. You feel you're in a Michael Bay film and Soap's death is far more emotionally heavy especially the way Price reacts to it. 2023: A very realistic and mature approach to how modern warfare is actually like and the way soldiers deal with grief of their fallen brothers is depicted very accurately with the real world. Price, Gaz, and Ghost give a very stoic reaction to Soap's passing because that's how real soldiers deal with death as they face it every day in battle. So so called lack of emotional response is less dramatic but more accurate to how soldiers process death in the real world. Both at 11/10s for me in their own way.
@@eyyowtf7159 I thought the story was really good tbh. I know a lot of people are giving it hate but I played the trilogy back in the day and the story in 2023 lives up to that legacy pretty well imo. And the approach has matured to be more accurate to soldiers and how they deal/react to war IRL
OG Price: *Completely breaks down losing his brother in arms* Reboot Price: Damn, that's rough, brother. I like Barry Sloane's performance as Price, but at least put some emotion into it. Billy Murray went all out on his scene.
I can finally decide im droping this MW version..they kill soap like these.. ..they Clear dont understand how much importance soap mactavish to the players he was the OG ..
In 2009s mw3 there's alot of build up with the friendship between these characters, as early as 2006, the man had excellent fruit killing skills😂.. i grew up seeing these guys go thru it all for 2 games until the only one left was price.. it was beautifully tragic story where every character felt like he had a purpose and role, even if minor to push the story foward.. its why i will always like the old school games. They were passion projects with alot of time put into it, now we just get yearly releases like their iPhones, no ambitious ideas just cut and copy paste elements and assets with new names slapped umder a nicely wrapped 70 dollar price tag..
I think it's kinda personal to Ghost, who is naturally more reserved and aloof. Gaz and Price just treat it as a normal fallen comrade but Ghost practically becomes brother in arms with Soap because of their solid relations
@@quakethedoombringer This. Literally the point of them being together in Mexico was to establish them as being much more well bonded than in the prior trilogy. Also makes me wonder if Soap's replacement in the next game is gonna be Roach.
@@HeyThisIsGale more likely to be Yuri. Yuri actually have proper relations with Makarov/TF141. Roach is just a player-insert character Ghost may detest Yuri at first for obvious reason but will soften up
@@quakethedoombringer The only reason why I think Roach will be coming in, maybe along with Yuri even, is that the players are gonna wanna feel that insert again. You do bring up an excellent point, however.
I’m a new COD fan and have only been watching since Modern Warfare 2 and felt nothing for the 2023 Soap when he died even tho he was my favorite character. I watched a CLIP of 2011 Soap dying and that had more impact for some reason
See yall this is why I stopped following the plot for COD games they are a quantity over quality game like NBA 2k. Back then COD was a good mix of both which was awesome but now its meh.
They missed a perfect opportunity with the second attempt to use the words inscribed on the clocktower at Hereford 22 SAS HQ. "we are the pilgrims master, we will always go a little further. It may be beyong that last blue mountain barred with snow, across that angry or shimmering sea." It's how many fallen SAS members are honoured during services.
OG Soap has an entire mission dedicated to his death, you have to watch him slowly die out through the entire mission, trying to hopelessly save him, 2023 just dies forgetting he has a pistol.
I think everyone loves the actiony, charm that old MW had down to the ambience and music just listen to soap and Yuri when he’s scoped in, the music and ambience made everything 1000000xs better
I like both of them, 2011's was very long and drawn out, slowly losing hope, which made it more sad. 2023's felt more realistic, he died fighting, and there was no final words or final goodbyes.
Which Soap’s death do you prefer?
Prefered none but it is what it is.
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Change the tittle too 2011
Original.
2011**
2023 soaps death looks like just happend not too much effort 2011 better
@@bilobaha it happened too fast that's the problem
In the OG Price treated Soap like a son which makes it even more impactful, And thinking Price's first words to Soap when he joined the SAS was "How'd a muppet like you pass selection" and his last being "I'm sorry" before Soap died in his arms made me remember all they've been through from CoD4 MW to MW3, R.I.P Soap and the rest of Task Force 141.
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This is why I still play MWR, you get to play as Soap.
It's kinda sad how soap realises that yuri could be a potential traitor, yet his first instinct was to save him.
Makes me curious about how 2020s Yuri would play in the role of taking down Makarov. World War 3 is going to happen in MWIV, which they gotta flush out Makarov as a character. It felt rushed regarding his reintroduction.
@@Shawn6751 not just Makarov. Half the campaign is reused warzone assets and the other half is non-existent. At least it can't get worse from here.
Atleast we got a cool ass cutscene@@nick_panag
@@nick_panagbut not this one this is cheeks
- YES. 🙏🙏
The OG actually had emotion and heart. I get teary eyed Everytime I watch it back. Especially when Price calls Macmillan crestfallen.
Like bro I cried nonstop back then but when you look in 2023 they didn’t put any effort tbh
yeah, this new one was muhhh, didnt give a fuxk
@@Ramxie35agree but what did you expect? They got ambushed just like the old soap death but this time he died faster and can't even leave a final word before dead
It's a more realistic death, no music, no nothing.
@@thatbasedfeliscatus577 You must love The Last of Us 2 then. Realism is no excuse for making a once literally iconic character death feel soulless
In the new version Soap died like a side character in the original version he died like he wrote the damn story because he actually did after he killed Zakhaev and he made a man that survived Gulag to cry and mourn his death like he lost his own son.
I think the cutscene did him justice.
There are so many things wrong with Soap's death in the 2023 version. First Makarov and a group of his men just come out of nowhere and take Soap and Price completely by surprise. Then Soap gets up in front of Makarov's men and stabs Makarov in the right side of his neck, but Makarov is somehow able to not only survive this, but also shrug it off, and then overpower and shoot Soap in the head with his right arm. Then it turns out while all of this was happening, Ghost and Gaz were just a few feet away and could've just shot Makarov while Soap and Price were on the ground. After all of this, Makarov just runs away as if he didn't just have a knife sticking out of his collarbone a few seconds ago.
No. It’s said literally at the beginning of the mission makarov and his men had taken over a train in the tunnel and had bombs planet, you were both making your way towards each other. Soap stabs makarov in the shoulder, not neck, and gaz and ghost arrive just seconds too late as makarov and his goons make their escape. It happens really fast, like in 6 seconds. By the skin of their teeth he got away
... and there's no suspense nor music for this.
copium
@@ZetsuboNoShima In this situation, the difference between neck and shoulder is minimal at best. Makarov isn't a massive guy. People with his physique don't just shrug off being stabbed in the upper/middle trapezius area like that. Suffering a laceration to the muscles in that area is a debilitating injury and would make it impossible for someone to move their upper arm or at least severely limit its movement, yet somehow Makarov was able to fight off Soap and shoot him with his right arm. Makarov was also stabbed with a 4-5 inch long blade, so he should've been bleeding profusely, we even see blood gush out of him when the knife goes in. Pain tolerance is one thing, but no matter much willpower someone has, they can't overcome damage to their motor functions.
As for Gaz and Ghost's arrival, the crossover platform they were on was quite long. If you look at gameplay, you can see the bomb, which is where Makarov would've been standing completely in the open, from the entry point into the platform. You even shoot at Makarov's men standing around the bomb from the entry point before you actually enter the platform proper. For Gaz and Ghost to be literal feet away from Price the second Soap hits the floor from being shot in the head means that Gaz and Ghost would've been on the platform with everyone else or at the very least at the entry point when Soap and Price were on the ground before Soap gets up to stab Makarov. There are no obstructions between the entry point and the bomb, so Gaz and Ghost would've had a clear shot. Even if they didn't want to risk friendly fire, they could've just shot one of Makarov's men or even just fired warning shots, to get Makarov to shift his attention and probably flee because he's standing out in the open. It doesn't make sense for Gaz and Ghost to do nothing when they were clearly in a position to do something. It also doesn't make sense that Makarov didn't even seem to realize that they were approaching.
@@gaydonaldtrump Lol if you're gonna disagree, come prepared to back it up.
4:34 Most people don't realize the significance of this moment. The pistol that Price lays on Soap's chest is the same pistol that he slid over to Soap just as Imran Zakhaev was about to execute Price at the ending of MW!...It's the same pistol Soap returned to Captain Price when they rescued him from the Gulag in MW2! It's sad to think it probably ended up in the hands of some scumbag Russian after they stormed the position. Soap's body also stayed behind :(
True
Sad
Don't waste your time explaining, kids these days don't understand what call of duty used to be and why it was the most sold out games of their primes each year, the multiplayer was something but the story mode was worthy of hollywood not the trash we have now with 3h of a DMZ tutorial and sold for 70 bucks
@@KamiKazeD I was born in 2001. But I never got to play cod in the golden age. Parents didn't have that kinda money.
didnt have or didnt have for you?@@thelordofthelostbraincells
MW3: Impactful, dramatic, truly let's you know that Price has lost a comrade he's known for years
2023: My goldfish just died, rip in dip buddy
wut
Ikr! 😂
2011: SOAAAPPPPPPP!!!!!!!! I'm gonna kill that bloody Makarov!!!!!!!!!!!
2023: Oh, well. He died, I supposed.
LMAO
"shit now I gotta get a new soap"
😂@@AgentMk07
MW3(2011)'s version of Soap' s death was better because it was unexpected, but MW3(2023)'s version was the completely unintended, unexpected. Bro died because of disarming a bomb, while the other got bombed
But we do see ghosts emotions when he saw soap’s dead body not responding so it’s a win/lose type of death
@@KooperMustom-xu3kmbad excuse tbh
no, emotion;ess, impactless, trust me in mw4 his death is not mentioned and hes no longer a character there
@@KooperMustom-xu3km
@@KooperMustom-xu3kmit makes no sense to have ghost and gaz and even price survive longer than soap in such a way. Remember, price was originally suppose to die in mw1 with soap as the lone survivor, mw2 was originally gonna be soaps own road. They honestly could have did more on their original ideals. We don’t even have Ramirez, foley, Griggs, sandman + delta force, etc.
Unexpected but really rellevant to the plot
It’s a shame to even compare the new MW with the original
It’s spitting on the face of the original trilogy
@@reb-dom1neAre you sure about that?
Well the OG was more emotional
@@agentlinrov1474the old one had more important to call of duty they made people fall in love with the characters. The deaths were way much impactful because you grow with the characters.
They are both good imo
The only thing I didn't like about Soap's death is that in the new version, there was no emotion, sadness, regret, crying for Soap's death. He is simply shot in the forehead and those in front just stared. When they mourn him, they just remember how he was, that's all. I didn't feel much of a sense of loss in his death. In the old version, the fact that Price regrets his death, suffers, cries and tries not to let him go, makes you much more emotional. As if I wasn't saddened enough by his death, I felt even more sorry to see Price regretting it. No matter what I say, the old one is better 💔
Pues lo que más les duele es que es una reacción realista, son soldados, deben saber como lidiar con eso.. siempre ven a sus compañeros morir
I don't think they had time to give him his moment of sadness with a bomb that's going to explode.
@@chantalh.v.9989 Eso es verdad. Como dijo Sheperd: En la guerra no hay amigos, solo enemigos. Y eso es verdad, hacerse amigo de alguien solo te dara mas dolor mental por que tarde o temrpano lo veras morir.
They had a job to do tf
@@chantalh.v.9989exacto SUS COMPAÑEROS en este caso fue un amigo, fue muy absurda la muerte del nuevo soap, si lees comentarios más arriba de este te darás cuenta que no tiene de realista nada, y no vas venir a decir " hay es realista por qué fue rápida y cruda bla bla bla " se sintió una muerte muy rápida como si fuera de un soldado más no bro es soap, prácticamente un protagonista esa muerte fue muy mal digo si lo hubieran ejecutado mejor estaría bien pero, porfavor
No it's not 2009, it's 2011. Better change the title in time.
Edit: it's war in the replies i guess
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You'll all get over it lol
@@StorageGuyGuns what's that meant to mean?
@@Postaldude2002 it means it most likely was a typo and y'all will get over it
The time took part was in 2016 for the OG one
I like 2011's scene because the game gives you this sense of impending doom that hits like a truck; you're fighting through endless waves of enemies to try and save a dead man walking, only to see just how bad it is once you lay him on the table. On the other hand, 2023's scene is interesting because it kind of leaves you...I guess, shell-shocked? It happens so fast, you hardly have time to process it until after you've dealt with the more pressing issue at hand.
I agree, it's just like real death
Rip soap
2011 is more dramatic, 2023 more realistic
We sure want cod to be realistic
@@firstnamelastname1640 Clown. The whole campaign of 2023 isn't "realistic."
It's funny that Gaz and Ghost literally did nothing to cover them as if they were just waiting for something big is about to happen. They just came out of nowhere. Most campaign of all time. 👏
The fact Ghost called him "Johnny" was actually kinda tearjerking.
Meh. There was literally no significant reaction to his death in the new on other than that. It felt like they just threw in ghosts little pet name in there to illicit sadness from normies.
It's tearjerking because only Ghost calls him Johnny. He calls him Johnny in a playful manner, because he knew Soap hated it. It happened from the entirety of MW2 (2022) to MW3 (2023). Also, your paragraph was very difficult to understand, so if you could rephrase, that would be much appreciated. @@thehamburgler2267
Ok
Keep crying 😂
@@thehamburgler2267yeah you’re forgetting the scene where they spread his ashes but ok. There’s no time for emotion in the middle of combat, they still had a bomb to disarm
The one they Spreading his ashes while ghost wears a goofy mask? And others dressed in casual jackets? That was funny as shit
Nothing can beat the original MW, because original MW story, music and campaign designs were toooooooo goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
The MW3 "remake" is just a MW2 DLC,
that's why it sucks and yea original MW is better
@@CelesteTheso, u don't wanna reuse ur bundles from u got first one? Thats only the way to keep bundles...
@@majachristensen3712it's not the only way. Activision is greedy, that's all.
And I rather have a new game then keep my cosmetics.
I think OG is better
Price OG:oh no no no no! Soap!!!!! (and he put back 1911 from COD4:MW to soap)
Price 2023: NO...!! (and One KIA...)
OG does not compare... They did this mw 2023 dirty... This is not mw3
IMO..Bcs in 2023 they're not as close as in the og
I get your point, but remember they are soldiers at the end of the day, They can't be emotional during a mission, that can get them killed. Regardless of what i said, the OG its better.
I don't understand. Why in MWIII doesn't have a Revenge Mission to kill Makarov for Soap's death. That's the make us don't get it. This game instead end with Closing Credits. But in post-credit scene. We only watch Price assassinating Shepherd on cutscene. Not Makarov. Just like that. And the Price leave. And continue the closing credits.
@@leaderofmine6293 Which means, he might've started with Shepherd...
Random TF-141 member: Hey Soap aren't you gonna wear a helmet?
Soap: Nah man i'm good.
A few days later at Soap's funeral:
Random TF-141 member: Should've wore a helmet.....
Ben carmine: the helmets are cool
Dom: helmets killed your brother.
In my opinion, I think soaps death in the 2011 game is much better than the 2023 one because let's be real why tf would they do soap like that shooting him in the head like he's trash, but the way they go about soaps death is more impactful in the 2023 version [talking about the scene where they're on the cliff pouring out soaps ashes]
2023 is better 2011 they treated him like a side character like they could have stop the bleeding and saved him on his this is more realistic he had him in a arm lock plus he was injured they didn’t treat him like trash 2011 they did he fighting makarov 2023 face to face
@@ghost_face1pr137 nahhhh bro you are joking hahahahhaha
@@ghost_face1pr137 You are on some serious meds man. Soap's death in MW3 2023 felt meaningless, whereas in MW3 2011 was just perfect, meaningful and sad. Hit like a truck.
@@thatsmolbirb2519Though 2023 is absolutely realistic every day every one dies in a battle I wasn't really shocked when he died tbh both 2011 or 2023. But here Soap makes one mistake and does not disarm Makarov and it costed it his life. Unlike in 2011 where he needed a dramatic long entry to die if that moment was realistic Soap would've already died half way getting himself to Price due to blood loss
@@TheMentallyTiredI agree, it was realistic, however, let's not forget that this game is supposed to be a "cinematic experience". Now tell me which one felt more cinematic...soap's death in 2011 or 2023? The game wasn't even realistic for 90% of it, where the characters one man army through the enemies. When presenting a cinematic product there are two things that sit at the top of the list: A compelling story and good character development, neither of which this product had. "Realism" can be left to games like SQUAD or other mil-sim type products. This is only my opinion and I'm no keyboard warrior so, I respect your opinion and have a nice day/night
I really didn't feel bad about soap's rebooted death but to think about ghost, you can feel the pain in his voice. They were such a good duo
dude you had me do a double take thinking “when tf did i comment on this video” lmaooo
Was there someone's before comment that just vanished@@supahas3821
alright, WHICH ONE IS THE REAL ONE?
@@kaantheanimator me ofc
@@supahas3821 LOL
The new one makes it feel like he kinda died for nothing. Obviously he protected Price, but still. I appreciate how they scattered his ashes in Scotland, that was a nice touch.
This feels like yuri's death but with soap.
In 2011 you fought what seemed like endless waves of enemies while escorting a dying soap trying to save him but in 2023 he just gets shot in the face by makarvov just like yuri
It's a bit diffrent yuri in the original game walked up from a long distance after a devastating building through the gut injury and then managed to save price for a bit
Unlike Foap's death, Yuri in 2011 still feels impactful. It was the tension, atmosphere and the music that makes up for it
Idk what you're talking about, yuri dying is still sad ash
Don't disrespect Yuri like that
Thing is Yuri sacrificed himself since he knew he wasn't gonna make it, he showed his loyalty to stopping Makarov. He finally went down after 2 shots, and you see his Character arc is finished with redeeming himself by putting his life on the line so Makarov could die.
Really pisses me off they made Makarov an op in MW 2.5.
The old "gives time to say goodbye" the new leaves you with shellshock and mourning
The original hits different since we was with Soap in all 3
Soap is always in our hearts no matter what Call of Duty it is.
F to pay respects.
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Exactly👍
Now why does Modern Warfare gotta make me cry like this 14 (ish) years later, it wasn't as hard hitting as the original but... still. I can't believe he died again!
@@simonriley6374We said they had no balls. We wanted task force 141 to die but not lame like this. Gaz should've died in that first.
@@weplo1597Nah, we needed more Gaz
@@weplo1597 the main problem is that IW was so scared of killing any character from mw2019 and mwii. alex should've never survived mw2019 and why would trained soldiers like soap and ghost not confirm graves' body? it just doesnt make any sense.
@@IMysticCobaltInah ghost and gaz need to die, same with price (price was originally suppose to die in mw1). The original story plan was that soap becomes a captain and finishes the bads after mw1 with his taskforce. We haven’t even gotten griggs, foley and Ramirez, plus delta force. Makarov and soap plus yuri was suppose to be the final battle in the original.
@@gtvn2775dude Griggs is so underrated he deserved better but he got killed around the same time gaz did which was a way more popular character
The OG Mw3 had the emotion and music as well. Starting from the moment when SOAP and Yuri forcefully had to jump out of the building, which was surprising and shocking as well. I was shocked to think SOAP is gone. But I was glad to see him alive. On the way to the safehouse, i was thinking all his moments and how he survived Shepherd's stabbing and everything. But i also felt it's the end as i saw him getting lifeless and losing his life slowly while entering the safehouse. After his death, Price going back to MacMillan was even more emotional because it was about an old man seeking his revenge for his fallen comrade and companion.
I like both versions of Soap, but 2011 soap death definitely way more hard-hitting.
Edit: changed 2009 to 2011. you guys get the point.
2011*
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2011
@@dariusEduardo1997 MW2 released in 2009, and was the first time you truly met Soap.
@@phantomwraith1984 MW2 released in 2009, and was the first time you truly met Soap.
2011's Soap is always in our hearts ❤
@@LongLiveJuneLongLiveKobebro. He's serious. Not a joke
What the remake lacks of are the intensity and tension that the predecessors had. At the time, CoD campaigns were so intense that we got dragged to what was happening around the world and how we made bonds with the characters; CoD campaigns now doesn't quite have that intense feeling we all felt because somehow we got disconnected to what is happening and not much bonds are made in the process of the campaigns. Also lack of Hans Zimmer soundtrack :)
I know Alejandro is going to be pissed when hears what happened to Soap
Yea.
He's going to help ,hell that might not even happen considering how poorly the MW3 story was
Rest in peace you amazing soldier damn Markov that bastard is not getting away with this
Price better be torturing him
Soap's death in 2011: OMG my brother in arms I knew you so well, you was such cool character I've spend a lot of years with you and now you leaving me im crying
Soap's death in 2023: who the hell was that
2011:He's gone... You screwed up hard, Makarov...
2023:Damn, one K.I.A I guess
If soap would have lived and died in the future mw4 I would be less mad. This ending is such bullshit.
It is, well at least he Carried rebooted MW2 and MW3.
@@G-741-SNow Ghost and Price are left to carry it 💀
@@ishottheserf6715 My bad
Mw3(old):have a music have emotions
Mw3(new):no music and emotions
I like the soap scene in the game released in 2011, the scene where we defend our best friend until they reach their destination, even though it's in vain, it really makes a very deep wound, while the 2023 one is more of a drama and makes us shocked.
Unfortunately death has no intended timing, it can happen anytime, any place, any second
@@MyNameRich Bad take.
@@Helldog6wdym bad take? he's actually right, death is unpredictable
@@lussurio2325but it's a video game. And there was zero reaction in the new one.
Just a stupid short clip on "he was a good man"
The new cod tells the story through cutscenes. Dogshit.
The thing about the old one is that we assumed Soap was unstoppable. We played as him in the first game and in the second he got stabbed, ripped out the knife, and threw it at Shepherd. So by the time we got to the third the entire time during that mission I never thought he would actually die until he was on that table. In the new one (I’m refusing to play the campaign because I’m so mad at how short it is) we don’t have that same connection with him. Yeah he was awesome (and hot) in the second game but we didn’t know him in the first game so we already don’t have the same connection to him. Given how short this new game is I highly doubt we get much more of that connection. I’m just disappointed that they had a great template for an awesome story and they threw it all out the window for their greed.
Soap in MW3 2023 died so fast like wtf there's no last words or nothing he just fcking dropped like a fly
Yeah that's what happens when you get shot in the face
@@InsertSomethingStupid2002I don't know why, but this comment had me Rollin.
Sometimes you don't get to hear the final words of a fallen soldier.
2011 is emotional, 23 is realistic
mf its a video game if i wanted realism id fucking join up@@bobdaniels9056
@@InsertSomethingStupid2002 getting stabbed in the neck tho
2011 had more emotions, 2023 was rushed
I can hear the pain in ghost's voice
2009: Soap injured by a Makarov's bomb trap and then died from his wounds beside his friend Price, giving him last word before his death on the battlefield.
2023: Soap got shot by Makarov, still beating Makarov whilst injured and then got shot to death in the head. His friends spread his ashes on the British coast.
Both versions, Soap died like a soldier beside his friend, killed by Makarov.
Soap died from his internal Injury after General Shepherd Stabbed him using a Knife deeply.
@@gamersonicmk1885 no tf he didnt?
@@WrathfulCrane10 he meant that he died from makarovs bomb trap because of his injury in the stomach that shepherd stabbed it on him that his injury wasnt recovered yet so in makarovs bomb trap happened he died because of blood loss
@@WrathfulCrane10 That bomb set by Makarov, re-opens soap's wound from MW2
You can tell Soap was never meant to die in the 2023 version
This was definitely a last minute decision as the game was probably planned to be a DLC and not a whole game
Yess, and didn't ghost die at MW2? and here is still alive
@@Bluepanizza ghost died in 2009 mw2
@@Bluepanizza Ghost played a better role in the new MW2.
I remember the first time my little brother played the original, he bawled his eyes out to his this game. Even now, he still finds the original death heartbreaking
I always had wanted Yuri, Ghost & Soap to fight side by side.
This is actual weight to the game and how to handle the death of a beloved character. OG MW3 knew how to give a main character a ceremonial death. New MW3 just had him die like a another NPC and give him a cheesy funeral with even more cheesy dialogue.
Honestly, I feel just as sorry for 2023 Soap as I do for 2011 Soap's death. Evokes similar emotions.
Well, sorry but you're just wrong 🗿
Objectively wrong 🗿
brothers just can't accept reality
@RajkaporDipshiet Yeah, because it's better 🗿
@RajkaporDipshiet no, just realistically better. Portrayed better
Press f to pay respect
Soap/Johnny may you rest easy soldier you were with us our whole journey sleep easy pal you will be missed
5:47 Soap 2022: L.T., there’s something you must know “Makarov Knows Yuri”
Who Dares Wins- Captain John Price
😭😭😭😭I can’t believe I had to watch him die again. RIP Soap
The problem with modern warfare is that it is a whole new different game compared to OG MW Trilogy. If they didn't used characters and some plot elements from the original trilogy , i dont think anyone would be comparing it that much. I still like both versions. The feel of loss in 2011 version is immediate and intense while the feel of loss is created through the later cinematics and cutscenes. Apples and oranges.
OG modern warfare: You're fighting a cunning villain who uses deception and trickery to get the upper hand, the event catches you off guard in a manner that isn't contrived or unreasonable, the death is as unexpected as it is emotion wrecking. You couldn't have seen it coming, and it was at least moderately grounded in authenticity.
Soap was a player character and companion that's been with you for all three of the games; you feel it with the emotional music score and all the subtle and not so subtle- *meaningful*- details in how the other characters deal with his death.
Years later, you still feel the gravitas of that moment.
new modern warfare: you're fighting a stereotypical OP action movie supervillain apparently who can just magically sneak up on you with a full squad of men and shrug off (what should be) a disabling stab wound into his right shoulder/collarbone to uno reverse card judo bullshit shoot Soap in the head.
There's nowhere near the same level of reaction from other characters
Soap's death is completely contrived and treated as cheap and easy shock value more than anything else.
man, I could rip the new MW3's Soap death scene seven different new assholes if I had the time and consideration for being more articulate in just how terrible they did it.
As is, I just don't care enough about the remake or the franchise to give more than enough of a shit to say much more than this, and to simply say it's god awful.
this video is literally hurting me both physically and mentally...
Price in the original MW3: There's a clocktower in Hereford, where the names of the dead are inscribed. We try to honor their deeds, even as there faces fade from our memory. Those memories are all that's left, when the bastards have taken everything else.
Price in MW III: Mission acomplished, oh, and also there is one KIA, but honestly, who cares, LMAO.
The original is hard hitting and in your face. You have to process it as you are fighting for your life. The newer one is more subtle, yet sudden. More poetic. Like how life can hit in the blink of an eye and once that blink is over, everything has changed forever.
detail: when Soap dies on MW3, Price will death stare to yuri, like: ''you are dead now''
Arif, what was special about the original version was that the huge price was affected by the death of the soap, to the point that in the last mission of the game he said at the beginning, “This is for the soap.”
The thing is og mw3 felt more impactful because in the original trilogy it was a nonstop massacre of main characters like soap, roach, gaz, ghost, etc. This campaign however only one main character died, the rest are ok (as for now), no risks taken, no high stakes and no emotion whatsoever, everything was just a snoozefest.
exactly 141 was against the world at a time
Thing is your right and your not in the orginal Modern warfare series we start with call of duty 4 the main 2 villains die and some of your troops, MW2 ghost, Roach, and TF141 along with general Shepherd die, private Allen and others, MW3 Yuri, soap, sandman and some of delta team, Makarov
2009: "NOOOOOOOOOOOO! SOAAAAAAP!" *dramatic music and last breath*
2023: "One KIA" *Gets shot without any music and drama*
Let's say - one is like an opera. And second - is like close to reality. Similar to ordinary days in PMC/Military during the war conflict.
Is it bad? Up to you.
But I like it. Or more like - I agree with this death concept. Well it won't be memorized like his previous death, but... At least you can feel it through his teammates who felt that loss.
When i hear ghost say "johnny" , it hurt me so much:(
An interesting thing to note about the original, the mission up to Soap’s death almost mirror’s CoD4’s “One Shot, One Kill” mission, where Price had to snipe Zakhaev and escape carrying MacMillan. There, things despite the dire circumstances of the escape end up working out alright. Here though, things go south before you even take a shot as rather than being met with a target, you see an ally since game 1 strapped to a chair rigged with explosives, and despite Soap’s initial wound not seeming so bad, as the mission progresses you see his condition deteriorate. I love how all the original MW trilogy titles manage to find new ways to use missions they had setup before and play on what you expect in a clever way, instead of just either doing the exact same thing again or throwing everything interesting about the original idea out in a cheaper idea of subversion.
Or to put it more succinctly, MW3’s campaign was a lot cooler than it got credit for.
I feel like Soap's death in MW23 was just too early for that. But Soap's death in MW3 (2011) was surprisingly and emotionally well to show the story continuing in past 3 original Modern Warfares.
Soap: "I wanna be just like you when I grow up LT."
Ghost: "Be better than me Jhonny"
R.I.P Soap 😞
Dude the music cutting right as Price punches Yuri makes the moment so tense.
In both timelines, the soap has been dropped
7:00 You see that little icon on the right side of the gun as it's firing? Makarov is wearing literal PLOT armor. 😂
i think the 2023 was more heavy because it came out of nowhere, it felt more real and soap just dropped cold on the floor, the 2011 one was way more theatrical so it didn't hit me as hard as this one did. Damn, Soap and Ghost was the best duo for me in this series, the next mw titles wont be the same without him.
I felt like 2023 ghost didnt have as much of a heartfelt reaction compared to 2011 price and soap.
dude, its literally the 2023 Yuri Death... just with Soap
@@PiinkkBunnyy16 i don't know, following all context from mwii It felt like ghost's reaction was as good as price in the og trilogy. Ghost didn't really care about team mates as the way he did after the bond created with soap in Mexico, dude was on his knees helpless lamenting what happened to Johnny, a thing that you wouldnt see from him before this bond.
@@xXFlameHaze92Xx yes and no. What happened is the same, someone prevents Makarov from shooting price in the face and gets shot, but i think that not only we created a sympath with this soap more than og Yuri, but in yuri's case there is the slow motion and even the Headshot is more like what you see in movies, is heroic, he is thrown backwards and shit, with soap the thing is just a quick tragedy, he gets shot and "turns off", like in real life, i think it had more shocking value, but thats just my opinion.
EVERYTHING about the new trilogy (except for MW19 which is great) is more theatrical than the original trilogy. The way he died in mw3 2023 is just dumb. In the original MW3 he falls off from a fucking building, you can feel price's despair because of his death, and his death has consequences and makes you want to kill Makarov so bad. In the new trilogy "oh he's dead whatever". I see what i mean with the fact that he just dies and "turns off" in an instant like many deaths in the last of us part 2, which gives it more shock value, but they could have done it way way better.
thank you for being such a reliable source of fun and learning!
We got Ghost, and Gaz back but at what cost....
I'm not gonna compare the deaths but the funeral scene in the remake is beautiful. Saying to someone you love and respect is difficult
Like the one where ghost spreads soaps ashes in a goofy mask? That was the funniest scene
My biggest problem with the new games version is how he was barley a character before he died he got introduced in mw2 2022, then he only really got one character building scene which was the stealth mission with ghost price and him never interacted then he dies i dont even know him and prices relationship or the one that was starting with ghost you can kill a character off fast and brutal but man do the character work first so i actually feel it, they are trying to go off earlier cod games so we are like "soap no" but the dude aint even the same character
The new one felt like the devs said (oh shit we forgot to kill soap, just do it right there)
By the way it's also worth mentioning that soap was technically still injured because of the stab wound he got from general Shepherd and in the beginning of the MW3 they performed surgery (i think) which why you had protect him in the third mission but he wasn't at 100% because his wounds hasn't fully healed
OG he died with tragedy. New was died with honour.
Keep in mind in the OG soap died at the end of the second act, in the reboot soap died literally right before the credits roll
Soap really can’t escape his cannon event🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
What makes the original MW3 so striking is how they drop a plot point that Makarov was associated with Yuri, then literally drop you into the action before that can really sink in. When you have the chance to really consider the information and believe Soap could survive, he succumbs to the wounds. Price leaving the 1911, the same pistol Soap returned back in MW2 with Soap's body also gives that personal touch since he was the last of the original SAS squad Price had.
Although 2009 Soap is more impactful, 2023's Soap is somewhat bittersweet. Both died tryna do good but 2023 gave him proper goodbye. RIP to one of the best
At 2023 they gave him a somewhat bittersweet goodbye while at 2011 makarov mocked it at prices face
what about mac tavish tell me price price how much did it took him to die ? I destroyed your world piece by piece its only a matter of time until I find you
Well you don’t have to look far
@@solidparas1925 makarov in the old mw3 was so much better than this new one he was a lot more evil and heartless as a villain
@@CopperheadAirsoftexactly! the OG Makarov was a cold-blooded mastermind, provoking ww3 for two times (the second time being an attack on europe) and almost destroying all his enemies.
the new Makarov is just a psycho, who's like "should I kill one of my most experienced soldiers because he made a minor mistake? hell yeah!", plus being OP in the first half of the game and then acting as an absolute idiot in the second half. like not changing the plan after your significant allies who know a shit ton about you get captured, etc. the COD writers are worse and worse each year, tbh
@@antiprime295not to mention makarov only got his hands dirty at the start to begin his plan. After that, he truly just mastermind the rest of it. It really added to the always lurking and scheming throughout mw2- mw3
The OG one is history. But someone's gotta say it. What in the hell is that Stormtrooper aim after you've picked up Soap😂
At the end of the day they're soldiers, they had a job to do they knew what they were getting themselves into and that they might not come back. So naturally in the new one they were fairly emotionless, however by the tone of prices voice and the mood of the scene you can tell they all felt it. Where as in the old one they use visual emotion to get across the point. I personally preferer none, as i appreciated the reality of the new one, but also remember the old one which made me really feel his death.
Edit: To anyone saying they did soap dirty and made him look like trash, well no sh**, to Makarov he was a piece of trash. Nothing but an obstacle in the way of his plan, one which needed to be thrown away like trash although he wasn't that. At least this time soap had a flighting chance and wasn't blown up from a distance.
I like your opinion
4:05 shows how much hell Price was going through after Soap's death in MW3 2011 and if and when we get mw3 2011 remastered and we see this scene again, i'm gonna be bawling my eyes out again after witnessing soap's death again 😢
The 2011 and 2023 version are awesome but for different reasons.
2011: More Hollywood style drama action approach. You feel you're in a Michael Bay film and Soap's death is far more emotionally heavy especially the way Price reacts to it.
2023: A very realistic and mature approach to how modern warfare is actually like and the way soldiers deal with grief of their fallen brothers is depicted very accurately with the real world. Price, Gaz, and Ghost give a very stoic reaction to Soap's passing because that's how real soldiers deal with death as they face it every day in battle. So so called lack of emotional response is less dramatic but more accurate to how soldiers process death in the real world.
Both at 11/10s for me in their own way.
the new mw was not that good bro this whole game was a lazy mess
@@masturch33f66 I was talking about the story and writing. I didn't play the game, just watch this video in full because Im in it for the story
Stoic lol its called mehhh we got nothing to say because the writer is run out of idea
@@eyyowtf7159 I thought the story was really good tbh. I know a lot of people are giving it hate but I played the trilogy back in the day and the story in 2023 lives up to that legacy pretty well imo. And the approach has matured to be more accurate to soldiers and how they deal/react to war IRL
@@bamaboy2711 There’s nothing good about it, it’s just a fast and furious movie.
OG Price: *Completely breaks down losing his brother in arms*
Reboot Price: Damn, that's rough, brother.
I like Barry Sloane's performance as Price, but at least put some emotion into it. Billy Murray went all out on his scene.
The new Cod's soap death just doesn't feel the same, it's so cold and heartless
I can finally decide im droping this MW version..they kill soap like these.. ..they Clear dont understand how much importance soap mactavish to the players he was the OG ..
exactly, everyone who says its "realistic" doesnt understand the weight behind them. At the en of the day its fiction it doesnt need to be realistic.
From Price crying over Soap's coarpse to Price saying "One KIA"
In 2009s mw3 there's alot of build up with the friendship between these characters, as early as 2006, the man had excellent fruit killing skills😂.. i grew up seeing these guys go thru it all for 2 games until the only one left was price.. it was beautifully tragic story where every character felt like he had a purpose and role, even if minor to push the story foward.. its why i will always like the old school games. They were passion projects with alot of time put into it, now we just get yearly releases like their iPhones, no ambitious ideas just cut and copy paste elements and assets with new names slapped umder a nicely wrapped 70 dollar price tag..
Og Death felt like New Ghost hitted you will full force in face
New Death felt like getting shot 1 time in GTA
he'll probably come back in season 1 with two christmas themed skins, for 20 dollars each of course.
Og mw 3 graphics still hold up to this day
The pain on Ghost's voice....
it's kinda heartbreaking. He was the only one emotional, the others were dry as hell
I think it's kinda personal to Ghost, who is naturally more reserved and aloof. Gaz and Price just treat it as a normal fallen comrade but Ghost practically becomes brother in arms with Soap because of their solid relations
@@quakethedoombringer This. Literally the point of them being together in Mexico was to establish them as being much more well bonded than in the prior trilogy. Also makes me wonder if Soap's replacement in the next game is gonna be Roach.
@@HeyThisIsGale more likely to be Yuri. Yuri actually have proper relations with Makarov/TF141. Roach is just a player-insert character
Ghost may detest Yuri at first for obvious reason but will soften up
@@quakethedoombringer The only reason why I think Roach will be coming in, maybe along with Yuri even, is that the players are gonna wanna feel that insert again. You do bring up an excellent point, however.
"Shit!" Famous last words gaz
2011: 😢😢😭💔
2023: 🥱🥱😴😴😑😒
Possible sweet double headshot at :36 seconds. Reliving my CS Source days there.
I’m a new COD fan and have only been watching since Modern Warfare 2 and felt nothing for the 2023 Soap when he died even tho he was my favorite character. I watched a CLIP of 2011 Soap dying and that had more impact for some reason
See yall this is why I stopped following the plot for COD games they are a quantity over quality game like NBA 2k. Back then COD was a good mix of both which was awesome but now its meh.
They missed a perfect opportunity with the second attempt to use the words inscribed on the clocktower at Hereford 22 SAS HQ. "we are the pilgrims master, we will always go a little further. It may be beyong that last blue mountain barred with snow, across that angry or shimmering sea." It's how many fallen SAS members are honoured during services.
OG Soap has an entire mission dedicated to his death, you have to watch him slowly die out through the entire mission, trying to hopelessly save him, 2023 just dies forgetting he has a pistol.
Roses are red violets are blue 5:08
I think everyone loves the actiony, charm that old MW had down to the ambience and music just listen to soap and Yuri when he’s scoped in, the music and ambience made everything 1000000xs better
I like both of them,
2011's was very long and drawn out, slowly losing hope, which made it more sad.
2023's felt more realistic, he died fighting, and there was no final words or final goodbyes.
Red wire