it could represent the isolation mary may have felt in her parent’s house or what happened in it whatever did happen, it is heavily connected to the four monsters within possibly childhood trauma?
It's more likely a reference to the fact that it's her mind. I mean, a mind of a person is the construct of the person's parents. A 'copy' of their parents, if you will
I think it's interesting that her internet name is "Mary Mary", it reminds me of the nursery rhyme Mary, Mary, quite contrary, how does your garden grow? With silver bells and cockle shells and pretty maids all in a row. I'm not sure if her name is a reference to this, but it could be a clue...
It’s also of note that that rhyme is about death, specifically about Mary, Queen of Scots or “Bloody Mary” and how she ordered the killings of Protestants to have England be Catholic again. The “garden” that is being referred to is a grave yard since all the flowers listed are funeral flowers.
Secondary note: Mary mentions the house is her parents', which could (theoretically) either mean that -her mental health issues stem from some type of trauma related to her parents and/or that house, so her mind traps her there due to the bad memories or -she felt safest/happiest when she lived in or visited that house, so her mind places her there to give familiar surroundings during all of this or to taint the memories and make her feel more alone because her parents are never home
Yeah defiantly thinks it's a good note to keep in mind. Also, one thing is when pictures are shown in the house. The picture gets all glitched. This is probably calling back to some drama she mad in her childhood.
@@justaweeb9883 I mentioned on another video, I don't think the day/night cycle is meant to be *literal* day/night. I think it's meant to represent her feelings. It's day time when she feels okay or happy and night time when she feels upset. She mentions that it's always day in the garden early on, which wouldn't make sense realistically, *unless* taking into account the theory that the garden is where she goes when she's doing drugs, it could be day time if that means she feels good because that's what drugs do. Which also explains why, as her body gets used to them and she starts needing more than normal, the garden slowly gets darker, because the drugs are no longer giving her that same good feeling.
I'd hate to suggest this but im going to warn this in case anyone is going through/went through this. What if her regret and the reason she is in the parents house the same? i would give more to this, but i need to know if anyone is interested in hearing why i think this.
I just realized the veiled lady being able to physically hurt Mary is a metaphor for self harm due to worsening depression. This series has so many layers and is such a jaw dropping representation of mental health issues. I feel like more people without mental health issues should watch it, because the imagery and content here is fantastic at conveying the feelings behind depression, making up for where words may fail
By comparing the two pairs of seemingly glitched images, here's the message I found: (1st Pair: posted March 16, 2018 and May 20, 2018) "stay out of the garden" (2nd Pair: posted June 11, 2018 and June 13, 2018) "get her to actually speak with you all LIVE during the night. we must convince her to stay with us. the longer she runs, the stronger they get."
For anyone who hasn’t checked in for awhile or just doesn’t know. Mary made it out. She confronted her” demons “ and is leaving the house and getting help because she finally realized that you cant fight these kinds of demons all alone. She told us all that she’ll help us fight our own demons. She reminded us that we aren’t alone and to always keep fighting. The video brought a lot of tired fighters to tears of happiness and relief. While saving herself she helped all of the viewers as well. Thank you mary 😁💖 and to all the fighters? Keep fighting! We’re all waging wars and we are all here to help.💖💖
@@waifuwaffles7697 I mean it could just be a very very creative way of staging a suicide attempt. Which might make sense in the context of posting these short videos and seeing people's reaction to them. Since they've been positive, Mary starts finding meaning in life and tries to stop her addiction. Or this could just be her trying to make a point with a short video series about substance abuse. Either way, there is much more to this than the surface level reading.
@@waifuwaffles7697 i assume he's speaking within the narrative of the series. I am thinking there is a challenge for the audience to save Mary, the series made it "interactive".
somebody said this but it got lost in the comments so i'm gonna say it again: the last video was titled "last 8 months" and it was uploaded on june 18, 2019. eight months from that date is this february 18, 2020. when matpat said it's a race against time, he means we have basically four days to find the message.
my sister has depression, i can say that this is accurate. Matpat didnt cover the new two episodes but at the last episode mary says “i know she’ll come back, but i know how to defeat her now”, that’s so accurate. my sister still has panic attacks and she still goes to therapy, but shes better.
For those wondering the creator of HIMM, has a Tumblr and said a couple months ago that Matpat’s first theory isn’t 100% correct. That in her words: “It’s about half and half, if not more like 40%. There’s a lot of depth that has not been explored, as well as some of the monster meanings can be switched around. For the record, mirror lady is 100% right, but she’s definitely the easiest to understand.”
can we talk about how this is one of a very few pieces of horror media that doesn't demonize mental illness? often, the monsters are the ones that we would say as having mental illness and they're scary because they exhibit those behaviors. but here, they're just personifications of something horrible, the monsters are what these issues can do to the person who has to live with them, as opposed to the person being the monster, if that makes sense. it's refreshing.
“Can we talk about how this is one of a very few pieces of horror media that doesn’t demonize mental illness?” *meanwhile, the mental illnesses in the forms of demons:* Jokes aside though, you’re right.
@@thephony1651 they're not demons, though. they're personifications, and the difference matters to the analysis of whether this is just another story being carried by cringey tropes or if it's doing something different.
well, it doesn't demonize mental illness in that it doesn't say that people who suffer from it are evil. it demonizes the issues, which is honestly how it feels sometimes: like you're being tortured by things inside of you
As someone whose older sister died from heroin.... this is hitting me hard. Your theory about her story sounds completely correct. Whoever is behind this channel is amazing and deserves the attention.
I just thought of something Realize how Mary wakes up in her PARENT’S house, instead of hers Since the house is representing the mind, it implies that the problems from her mind stem from her parental influences Either through abuse or projected trauma
Don't tell anyone but the "garden" is actually the past and her "waking up" in her "parents house" is more of like the movie precious but with more of demons representative of the well if u seen the movie I think u can get at where I'm going if not I'd suggest it loosely based on it
Whoever wrote this narrative and made this series deserves an award because it is honestly brilliant I’m a sucker for symbolic horror and metaphors and oh my gosh this is truly gold. Props and cudos for being a straight up genius.
Ok, so here's my thought: in the blog, Mary mentions this friend whom she treated really badly but was super close to, and one of the audio recordings shows that she went looking for this friend after ditching her, right before the series started. Maybe we need to find this friend and have her go to the house, show Mary that her friend does still care about her?
Maybe the message has to be relayed to said friend, then have said friend relay it to Mary herself before it's too late. I'm thinking if we don't, Mary ends it all herself. And if the theory on how all of this is a view into her mental health and its deterioration, there's one way she could end this herself and I don't want that. We need this friend to help then.
@@leahflops9425 of course I know that but I also know it won't help me to feel sad and cry about it so I control my emotions and tell myself 'why should I care?' I know it sounds heartless but I don't really care
Okay idk who’s gonna see this but at 5:51 there’s a vomiting sound effect that’s pretty nasty sounding so if you have emetophobia or are just grossed it by that kinda thing, be warned
I'm normally not too grossed out by that (I've been pregnant, vomiting is a part of life sometimes) but that was a whole other level of wrong. Definitely not the sound I was expecting and could have done without ever hearing.
So, just a thought I had while listening to this. Mary drowning in her forest could be a symbol of her overdosing and surviving, because H overdoses can be akin to asphyxiation.
My guess is he was hoping something else would come out on the channel before making the second episode. But seeing as they haven't uploaded in 7 months. He got tired of waiting.
As someone who as delt with mental illness and drug use this series has made me so happy because it makes me feel like I’m not the only one who is struggling with this and it’s something that a lot of people need to be aware of
thomas roy Cool, so you're superior to everyone in the comment section. That's what your statement was trying to imply, right? Then we'll all give you that round of applause you want. Have a good and fulfilling life.
I've been interested in this series for a while, but considering my own mental health issues I've been avoiding it like the plague. Don't be confused, I am getting the help I need and doing much better, but its still clearly an incredibly fragile balance of self care and medication. So thank you MatPat, for giving me a look into this fascinating series that I can safely digest without getting too attacked by my own demons. It might seem silly but this really does mean a lot to me. Seeing myself and my struggles represented in a way that accurately depicts how they feel helps me feel like I'm not crazy, just sick. Understanding this and seeing it in forms of media where my illness isn't just an unstoppable destructive force of insanity with no way out, but something that can be managed and addressed really does help. Even if I have to see it through cultural osmosis instead of being able to experience it for myself.
And also if it doesn't end on a good note none of us will ever know if it was our fault at all like even if we find the message and send it to her we'll never know if we did something wrong of if we were supposed to do something else and that's why we got the bad ending and the remnants of the series will just sit there on the internet forever alongside this video reminding us that we might've been able to do better and we just didn't try hard enough.
I just realized that I had been turning to drugs to escape my own fears and mental illness. I only stopped now, because an injury has made me need to take medication that would react badly with the drugs. This story scares me so much, because I'm Mary Mary. At first it was every once in a while, and was literally an accident. Just a little too much, and I found myself in the garden. Then every weekend, then every day for months on end. There's no real help for my issues, but maybe I can get help for my anxieties that are caused by my issues. I don't know what else to say. Thank you.
This series is not ended yet...her “behind the scenes” tumblr says 2 more episodes are left, and matpat.....U BETTER FRIGGIN COVER THEM WHEN THEY’RE OUT
How Sel she posted something on may 22nd on that behind the scenes tumblr page (which can be found at whyhellomynameismary.tumblr.com), and said “You know what to do. It’s up to you now. See you in a week ;)”
When he said that “the first time was basically an accident” I had a moment when I realized that Shane madejs worst fear of being injected with heroin against his will isn’t completely irrational 😂😂
MAT PAT WE NEED TO HURRY, I did some further digging and you were wrong about the darkness, the darkness is the looming thought of suicide and if we don't hurry soon Mary will blow her head off, the mirror and paper doll are the key you have to see it from depressions gate to find out
To quote Mary Mary's last posted video from now 9 months back. the video was uploaded with the following message: "im gonna give up. dont wanna continue. feel so bad inside and out. like im a corpse instead of a person. very very very alone. think im gonna ask her to end it. don't know how that'll go but hopefully it will end. don't know when yet. but i can't keep doing this. posting just in case someone finds it. maybe there will be people if im not here anymore." And the fact we didn't solve this in time, and that there have been no further posts.. well.. It means... Gosh its so hard to say it - but StarTrek's Dr. McCoy said it best so i'll quote him now: "She's Dead Jim"
I think that the fact that she appears to be living in a version of her parents house might be hinting to the idea of some kind of abuse from her parents. I think it could be verbal, saying that she isn’t good enough, which causes the existence of a monster like Beauty, but your reasoning about Regret in the previous episode makes me think that there was some kind of s**ual abuse involved with some other member of her family. I don’t know how that would play out, maybe it’s something completely different, we can’t be sure. I also think that the garden supports the idea of abuse from her family because literally getting out of the house would be a way for her to escape the hurt happening at home. It was probably when she was out of the house, avoiding the horrors in her home where she turned to drug use. The fact that she is safe from the monsters when she is in the garden could also represent how she is safe from any abuse when she isn’t in the house with her family. Edit: grammar
10:18 *If you’re hearing this, then congrats! You made it to Night 2! Most people don’t get this far, they usually move on.. to other things... I’m not implying that they died, that’s not what I meant. Anyways-* I appreciate the FNaF reference!
A UA-cam show for people to actively help someone through depression, anxiety, addiction and mental breakdown? This...this is unexpected and so endearing. I hope we as viewers can help steer this story to a happy ending. To give hope to those who suffer the same as Mary.
Me: "Hey I wonder if this video will get monetized." Matapat: "The garden represents Mary's turn to drug use." Me: "We could tell UA-cam it's Calpol or something?" Matpat: "Heroine specifically." Me: "Oh well, there goes that."
As someone who struggles a lot with mental health this series fascinates me. Because it truly feels like this. Mental illness is terrifying. And even when there are hundreds reaching out, you still feel so alone. Thank you for covering this. It’s so important that people see it.
Me: *watching part 1* Matpat: “ I have hotlines if you need them” Me: “that wasn’t that scary” Me: watching part 2 Matpat: “I think Mary is a heroin addict” Me: “ok this is much scarier”
Amazing. This series sounds exactly like something I would never want to watch, as I also struggle with these issues and am very susceptible to psychological horror. But the amount of effort and ingenuity that went into it is amazing, and I really hope it will get the recognition it deserves. Thanks for covering it, guys, without you I'd me missing out on a lot of amazing stuff - I love your work!
DUUUDE I so badly want to see MatPat do a theory on Daisy Brown and Alan. I would love to see his takes! I was obsessed with it a few years ago, its really similar to HiImMaryMary!!
A random tidbit, but the rhyme her name comes from "mary, mary, quite contrary" also mentions a garden and is about torturing women. Bit more evidence that the garden is bad for her.
It is actually about religious persecution, the English Queen Mary Tudor “ Bloody Mary” torturing and killing Protestants. The garden refers to a body count or cemetery, Silver Bells and Cockle Shells were names of torture tools.
@@kycool8684 also not true. It's about bloody Mary yes but not about religion . Its ridiculing her misvarorges and how she changed the religion and how she was unpopular. Ill explain more if you want
UrbanRose well if you look up the real meaning all you find is stuff speaking of religious persecution in England (against Catholics by Protestants mostly, I don’t think I said it was the other way around, sorry about that)
The latest video is titles “last 8 months” and was uploaded June 18th. On February 18th it will be 8 months since then. I theorize that’s when the next vid will release
I had the impression the garden was representative of suicide. What's the most common outcome of severe untreated mental health issues, after all? 8:22 She's rubbing not her ARM, but her WRIST, where self harm is most often practiced (I don't think anyone inject drugs into their wrist, unless they're running out of veins. But I'm not an expert on this) Cutting, like a drug is a distraction from the pain. But it doesn't make things better, it only makes it worse over time. And the "regret" (I think of it as GUILT) grows because she knows it's wrong. Also, a lot of people say the house being her parents means she was abused by them, but I think since this is a COPY of the house where _Mary's_ demons live, it's possible that it's representing her mental health being a result of genetic predisposition. Like schizophrenia, depression can also be hereditary. I think this is supported by the ending, she yells "get out of _my_ house!". This may be a copy of her parents house, but it's also _hers._
@@spiritp.d5551 I never said she’s not doing drugs, just that you wouldn’t inject them into your wrist. Also, eating disorders can also make your hair fall out and ruin your teeth.
Her answer is the same as anyone else’s going through a similar experience.. she’s trapped because she’s fighting all these things, she’s literally her own worst enemy. To be able to leave the prison she’s made for herself she has to make peace with her demons. Accept herself flaws and all, answer the fear and hate with love and understanding and learn to use them to her advantage instead of to beat herself up with. To channel it in a healthy way, which is what I theorize she’s actually done here. I’m thinking this whole thing is something she’s made to show what she already went through to work these things out in herself. Her journey. Maybe whenever she’s feeling sad or frustrated or lonely or afraid or any of the things that used to drive her to use, she works on a video instead of doing something self destructive to keep her hands and mind busy. Maybe this is her way of trying to help others going through it and showing how she made it in an original way. If I’m totally wrong and she’s still going through it.. I’ve got the best message for anyone to hear: No matter what you’ve been told or what you believe about yourself right now, you are worth the things you want in life, you can have them if you try hard enough and never give up, and if you throw your life away, you’ll miss out on whatever tomorrow might bring. A persons entire life can change in a single phone call, a single knock at the door.. but you have to be brave enough and strong enough to stick around and answer. Pandora’s box may have released all the evils of the world but it also released the one thing that combats them all.. Hope.
Actually, pandora shut the box immediately, luckily keeping hope inside. Great message btw. Sometimes, if the problem is to much for you to handle, seek help from parents and friend rather then the internet. The more you scroll, the more you depressed. I personally have to take pills to help myself.
dude I am so glad I wasn't the only one. I'm literally trying to eat and i heard matpat say 'she gets sick' and the pure speed I threw down my fork and covered my ears with
I actually talked to "k.", the creator and star of hiimmarymary, to ask her for advice on how to make my own series that's similar in tone and style to this, and she told me to make the symbolism obvious, but to make the story and monsters unpredictable. I'm basically confirming MatPat's theory. It was such an honor to speak with her via email, and I've been planning my own series in a similar tone for years now.
@@Lily_of_the_valle You mean the series? If that is what you're talking about, I've had to rewrite and rewrite it. I'm working on casting people in the roles, but I need to figure out some other things about the series.
@@Lily_of_the_valle You're welcome. The current idea is to make it an anthology series where each monster represents mental health struggles and the series would be called "Harmless Horrors" since while mental health can harm you if you let it and is scary no matter what, if you know how to manage it successfully, it's more harmless than harmful (at least in my experience).
Um... I don't quite remember what episode it was I believe it was the first one but I found it odd how she mentioned it was her parent's house. I don't think this matters to the theory but it could help explain the root of her problems. Maybe something happened while she was there that planted the "house" inside of her
could also be to represent her childhood. the house being the worse parts of her childhood and the garden the innocence of childhood, I know better than anyone that drugs can be an escape to try to bring back that lost childhood
I don't know, but I get feelings of things that are 95% to 100% accurate, so when I got a feeling of this being ultimately tied with trauma, specifically sexual trauma, I was very depressingly unsurprised. And if that's the case, maybe someone in her life had truly violated, even just by pressuring her into doing something or anything bordering intimate and uncomfy. Like someone she was dating who did the bad things, or maybe it was even her parents (one or the other, maybe even both), or just someone she's related to who came over to "visit" (like a sibling of a parent babysitting, or substitute it with any other relative title for a number of cases). But in any case, it could be in her house because they came to her, by gaining her trust then used it against her in the most vile and putrid way.
I mean it is possible that she simply never moved out of her parent’s house.Some people don’t leave it until they are much older.Maybe it’s just the only house she lived in
Beauty: anorexia/bulimia, or body dysmorphia The darkness: anxiety The shadow: PTSD The Veiled Lady: schizophrenia, depression The Garden Girl: memories of before her mental illness Peaceful Mary: addiction Maybe PTSD is from a toxic relationship? Maybe her parents abused her, so that's why shes stuck in their house? Mary is probably starting to die, that's why everything is getting worse.
i keep thinking about a voice memo from her website where she talks about how “she’s gone and i f*cked up” maybe she was around when someone died..? overdose perhaps?
ok y’all “last 8 months” probably refers to what happened in between episode “gone” and last eight months. because mary took an 8 month break from uploading then. so we probably have more time then just 3 days
EVERYONE TODAY IS THE DAY THE CODE IS Stay out of the garden Apparently in one of the secret messages it says talk to her LIVE in the night guys that means she may be going live on youtube in the night now we know what to say and how to tell remember The Code Is : Stay out of the garden
@@Noradimitrijevic2706 But if the demons represent mental illness, they'd want to do anything and everything possible to keep her trapped under their control. Even if the garden was harmful to her, it made her feel better, which would go against what the demons wanted. They want her to suffer.
@@Noradimitrijevic2706 My point is that if the "demons" keep her out of the garden then there's no need to tell her to stay out of the garden since she already has no access. Sounds pretty logical.
She has tried to answer the door. She screams as and cries for them to help her out, and she litterally gets as high pitched squealing doorbell in response.
I’ve personally found these videos to be really helpful bc it’s helps me put a “face” to things and to realize deep down “this is not normal, this is just a thing and I don’t need to listen to it” It’s different for everyone but I’m thankful that it could help me and maybe some others
Me: "oh theres a vomiting sound, cant be that bad" *hears sound* Me: "ah..." Edit: it's a really gross noise and its sounds very realistic. Idk if you'll see it but skip to 5:53 if you dont wanna hear it.
Issac Newton it’s the creators tumblr. @whyhellomynameismary ! she posts behind the scene footage + episode progress. next episode is almost halfway done, but the current runtime for it is 24 minutes, so it’ll be long. I encourage you to check it out! :)
I know I'm really late to this, but I found something important. Another message written in the source code. Under the picture of the hand that Mary traced. "So we failed. It's ok. I did too. I'll have to think on what we can try to do next to help her. This is harder than I thought. She just keeps pushing us out. We have to get her to figure it out. No instructions for now, but you all know how to recognize my calling card. They're getting stronger and it's making me weaker again. I'm scared for her and I hope you are too. But we can do this, we need to. In other news, it's funny she would choose to draw a picture of that one. I can't really go into details, as I barely understand that one myself. I know it's more powerful, possibly the most, but I'm still not entirely certain of its intentions. --->" It's a possibility that there is a sixth entity. The strongest out of all of them. That has been represented by the squiggly lines in the palm of the hand that Mary traced. Here's the link: hiimmarymaryblog.blogspot.com/
I have a feeling that this problems may have hinted at how they started in the beginning. Such as her stating that she in in her parents house means possibly her parents are what caused these problems to start, ANND WORSEN to the end.
The MaryMary series is finished, while you're waiting for Matpat to release his video on the ending, the channel Night Mind did a very good video on it :>
I’m here to share a trick for people with any type of anxiety. I want you to imagine you’re on a cloud. Now, imagine the landscape. Make it as peaceful as you want it. Now, imagine the sounds. Now, imagine you’re sinking into your cloud. The sounds disappear and you’re wrapped in warmth and softness. Now, the cloud disappears.
Here's a film theory: Frozone, in the scene where he's mistaken for a bank robber, freezes a bullet in midair and completely stops it's movement. I mean, it's obvious that he had to have reacted in a split second to pull that off and Death Battle has helped me learn about how cold things would need to pull off such a feat but, what kind of implications would that have on the environment? Is frozone the deadliest superhero in the movie?
NEVERMIND Y'ALLLL She fought back!!! She is ok she left the house!! Thank you @Aamina @Urbanrose and @Kate Clouse for bringing it to my attention!! Old News: to anyone watching this vedio. i'm sorry but it was too late. she had a live stream where people were able to tell her the message "don't go to the garden" in the end she had a poll and 54% said garden. she left. it was too late for us to save her. this most likely means she overdosed. it was too much to handle.
As of May 19, the HIMM BTS tumblr "neither confirmed nor denied" the possibility for another chance to save her/ interact with her, so we gotta stay hopeful
Lies: The creator of Mary Mary said on twitter that two more episodes are left, the next around halfway done, and will have a runtime of around 24 minutes when complete.
I haven't seen the actual channel but I'm happy that Mary is okay. However, I will say that I have recently come out from depression myself and I something have thoughts if self harm or worse and sometimes shadowy figures flash before my eyes. I'm doing much better now but that doesn't mean my demons are gone. I still struggle sometimes but I'm dealing with it. Thank you to whoever read this and thank you Matthew for covering something so serious and something I've dealt with myself. Without drug use though.
I think i dodged a bullet because part 1 was in my watch later list so i didn't wait long for this part two lol. Couldn't imagine waiting 6months. He was probably trying to find the hidden message to tell us to help her. But didn't get there.
I watched part 1 last night and I’m pretending that I affected the fact that this episode exists now even though I can basically guarantee that is not what happened
There is a tumbir page called "iamlookingformary" and it seems like someone else had this profile taken away from them .... it the blog was made three day after { last 8 months} video that was last uploaded on youtube the very first comment was " LEAVE" im just looking at the rest of the comments
@@davtan3865 nah dont worry, this is a show. Its just a game, noones really getting hurt. This is fiction that feels real and we just want a nice ending to that game
another thing this iamlookingformary has a twitter with the same name and has private messaged people it seems to be the moralaty or goodness of mary the part that has hidden mesages in the source code but it could indeed just be a gamejacker
what's disturbing is that it's her parent's house specifically. That provides whole new possibilities of this girl's dark past
Possibly but she did say it was a "copy" meaning it could just be her interpretation of her home in her mind.
it could represent the isolation mary may have felt in her parent’s house or what happened in it
whatever did happen, it is heavily connected to the four monsters within possibly childhood trauma?
It's more likely a reference to the fact that it's her mind. I mean, a mind of a person is the construct of the person's parents. A 'copy' of their parents, if you will
The shadow just got worse
I truly think she has childhood trauma.
I think it's interesting that her internet name is "Mary Mary", it reminds me of the nursery rhyme
Mary, Mary, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?
With silver bells and cockle shells and pretty maids all in a row.
I'm not sure if her name is a reference to this, but it could be a clue...
Everyone like this get mat to notice this
ooo nice you might want to save that
It does mention a garden. You're definitely on to something!
A Random Star Trek Nerd OMG AND ONE OF THE VIDEOS SAID “I found my garden”
It’s also of note that that rhyme is about death, specifically about Mary, Queen of Scots or “Bloody Mary” and how she ordered the killings of Protestants to have England be Catholic again. The “garden” that is being referred to is a grave yard since all the flowers listed are funeral flowers.
Secondary note: Mary mentions the house is her parents', which could (theoretically) either mean that
-her mental health issues stem from some type of trauma related to her parents and/or that house, so her mind traps her there due to the bad memories
or
-she felt safest/happiest when she lived in or visited that house, so her mind places her there to give familiar surroundings during all of this or to taint the memories and make her feel more alone because her parents are never home
Yeah defiantly thinks it's a good note to keep in mind.
Also, one thing is when pictures are shown in the house. The picture gets all glitched. This is probably calling back to some drama she mad in her childhood.
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People need to like this so MatPat can see
@@justaweeb9883 I mentioned on another video, I don't think the day/night cycle is meant to be *literal* day/night. I think it's meant to represent her feelings. It's day time when she feels okay or happy and night time when she feels upset. She mentions that it's always day in the garden early on, which wouldn't make sense realistically, *unless* taking into account the theory that the garden is where she goes when she's doing drugs, it could be day time if that means she feels good because that's what drugs do. Which also explains why, as her body gets used to them and she starts needing more than normal, the garden slowly gets darker, because the drugs are no longer giving her that same good feeling.
I'd hate to suggest this but im going to warn this in case anyone is going through/went through this. What if her regret and the reason she is in the parents house the same? i would give more to this, but i need to know if anyone is interested in hearing why i think this.
I just realized the veiled lady being able to physically hurt Mary is a metaphor for self harm due to worsening depression. This series has so many layers and is such a jaw dropping representation of mental health issues. I feel like more people without mental health issues should watch it, because the imagery and content here is fantastic at conveying the feelings behind depression, making up for where words may fail
I don't have a mental issue:)))
great idea i am too terrified
@socialjusticewarrior6027 good of you I guess
@@kristynamiklendova6830 hello kind sir would you please explain to me what socialjusticewarrior6027 said please and thank you
@@kristynamiklendova6830 thanks girl from the Internet:)
Remember it’s ok to ask for help. Anyone that tells you otherwise is afraid what help will bring
So true, Would like but it’s on 69
@@BobBob-qg4lo Be quiet. There is no need for a immature joke on a serious comment.
@@danieladiaz6800 aftef tears comes smiles so let him do his thing
Matpat have you seen Dead Sound’s Autodale series?
@@danieladiaz6800 there's nothing bad about the comment it's just a meme. Plus your on the internet what do you expect.
By comparing the two pairs of seemingly glitched images, here's the message I found:
(1st Pair: posted March 16, 2018 and May 20, 2018) "stay out of the garden"
(2nd Pair: posted June 11, 2018 and June 13, 2018) "get her to actually speak with you all LIVE during the night. we must convince her to stay with us. the longer she runs, the stronger they get."
... why does this not have more likes?
Guys, read this!!!! Its important!! MajorSeven just gave you all a whole bunch of amazingly useful info right here!!!!
everyone needs to like this
Ayyyy look a dis dudeee
I’m adding comments to put this higher
The internet: Ooh, Valentine's day, who's your valentine?
MatPat: tHis GirL iS tOrtUred bY hEr MIND
Well,he has a wife
(please don't r/whoooosh me)
Thomas Wade LMAO
Brian Griffin R/whaaaash
Thomas Wade it just turned 12:03 am for me hi from the U.K.
@@Rzra ya r/WAAAAAAAAASH 😉
For anyone who hasn’t checked in for awhile or just doesn’t know. Mary made it out. She confronted her” demons “ and is leaving the house and getting help because she finally realized that you cant fight these kinds of demons all alone. She told us all that she’ll help us fight our own demons. She reminded us that we aren’t alone and to always keep fighting. The video brought a lot of tired fighters to tears of happiness and relief. While saving herself she helped all of the viewers as well. Thank you mary 😁💖 and to all the fighters? Keep fighting! We’re all waging wars and we are all here to help.💖💖
Wait are you thinking that she really was an addict I am very sure she was trying to make a point not actually a druggie
@@waifuwaffles7697 I mean it could just be a very very creative way of staging a suicide attempt. Which might make sense in the context of posting these short videos and seeing people's reaction to them. Since they've been positive, Mary starts finding meaning in life and tries to stop her addiction. Or this could just be her trying to make a point with a short video series about substance abuse. Either way, there is much more to this than the surface level reading.
@@waifuwaffles7697 i assume he's speaking within the narrative of the series. I am thinking there is a challenge for the audience to save Mary, the series made it "interactive".
Thanks for spoilers
@@waifuwaffles7697 I like to think that it was her trying to bring awareness by showing us a dramatization of what actually went on in her head
somebody said this but it got lost in the comments so i'm gonna say it again: the last video was titled "last 8 months" and it was uploaded on june 18, 2019. eight months from that date is this february 18, 2020. when matpat said it's a race against time, he means we have basically four days to find the message.
I'm not smart enough to figure out how to go through code...but I know how us Theorists can be. I hope we find it.
ohshit
Well rip marry you'll be missed
There has to be something. Has anybody checked the source code for the videos themselves? Maybe there is something there.
She says she's been around for awhile but mary couldn't perceive her. That means she could have been here from the beginning
I'd recommend "This Room Does Not Exist"
It's definitely a fun watch and good to theorise about.
Welp I know what I'm doing later lol, I'll update on what I think I guess
Edit 1: a few vids in and we definitely need a theory or two about this
69 likes. Nice
@@jamielou9226 I'll be waiting mate.
Yeah I've watched a few videos from that channel and it looks like a great material for theory making
a channel called Nexpo did a video on that one, you should check it out
MatPat: Says it is a race again time.
Also MatPat: Lets delay the second episode for four months.
Craftfredo you mean 5
Almost 6
u mean a decade
I mean FINALLY.. right?
matpats episode pauses are longer than the series
my sister has depression, i can say that this is accurate. Matpat didnt cover the new two episodes but at the last episode mary says “i know she’ll come back, but i know how to defeat her now”, that’s so accurate. my sister still has panic attacks and she still goes to therapy, but shes better.
good for your sister hope she gets better then she already is
Hope she gets better
I hope your sister gets better!
Editors: What should we do for our Valentine’s Day special?
MatPat: HiImMaryMary
Editors: But that’s really creepy
MatPat: And?
100th like!
Not even valentines day but ok
MatPat: That's what this channel is for. Ruining everything one video at a time.
Drage Enzeru and childhoods
Matpat: Did I stutter?
**UPDATE:** Mary is free, we got through. She’s finding help. She got out of the house and is going to get help. We helped her win. She heard us!
We did it! We did it, We did it yeah, Lo hesimos! We did it! we did it! We did it, Oh yeah!
Mat has to make a video on this
*GASP* :O
:D
Please everyone like this so matpat can see!
YEEEEEEEEEE
For those wondering the creator of HIMM, has a Tumblr and said a couple months ago that Matpat’s first theory isn’t 100% correct.
That in her words: “It’s about half and half, if not more like 40%. There’s a lot of depth that has not been explored, as well as some of the monster meanings can be switched around. For the record, mirror lady is 100% right, but she’s definitely the easiest to understand.”
TheAngelofFate17 ha yeah
Hi I have seen you everywhere on YT lol
Does she explain in her Tumblr the meanings behind the other monsters?
Why would she do that? Take away all room for speculation?
TheAngelofFate17 link?
can we talk about how this is one of a very few pieces of horror media that doesn't demonize mental illness? often, the monsters are the ones that we would say as having mental illness and they're scary because they exhibit those behaviors. but here, they're just personifications of something horrible, the monsters are what these issues can do to the person who has to live with them, as opposed to the person being the monster, if that makes sense. it's refreshing.
“Can we talk about how this is one of a very few pieces of horror media that doesn’t demonize mental illness?”
*meanwhile, the mental illnesses in the forms of demons:*
Jokes aside though, you’re right.
@@thephony1651 they're not demons, though. they're personifications, and the difference matters to the analysis of whether this is just another story being carried by cringey tropes or if it's doing something different.
It really is
well, it doesn't demonize mental illness in that it doesn't say that people who suffer from it are evil.
it demonizes the issues, which is honestly how it feels sometimes: like you're being tortured by things inside of you
Honestly, as someone with Anxiety, depression, and body image issues, I really do like how they are portrayed in this
As someone whose older sister died from heroin.... this is hitting me hard. Your theory about her story sounds completely correct.
Whoever is behind this channel is amazing and deserves the attention.
Too bad the resources aren't working, I even put all of the videos into a spectogram, and I didn't see any characters, letters, or numbers anywhere
balance 234 Stupid suggestion, but maybe you could be overthinking certain videos. Some things are straight in the open without us realizing it
Ow, my feels. One of my greatest fears put into words.
Hope you and your family is okay!
all jokes aside.. im so sorry
I just thought of something
Realize how Mary wakes up in her PARENT’S house, instead of hers
Since the house is representing the mind, it implies that the problems from her mind stem from her parental influences
Either through abuse or projected trauma
OH MY GOD THIS NEEDS ATTENTION
And also said that it was a copy, this might lead to something...
Holczy it might be depression since she got abused and she learned that she was adopted since its a "copy"
Don't tell anyone but the "garden" is actually the past and her "waking up" in her "parents house" is more of like the movie precious but with more of demons representative of the well if u seen the movie I think u can get at where I'm going if not I'd suggest it loosely based on it
Maybe because of regret being something about sexuality, maybe she was sexualaly abused by her parenta
"Today's Theory Is A Race Against Time"
*So THATS Why The Intro Is Gone...*
Beeg brain
yep
Film theory Theory
Wow!
I thought something was wrong but didn’t put my finger on it
Whoever wrote this narrative and made this series deserves an award because it is honestly brilliant I’m a sucker for symbolic horror and metaphors and oh my gosh this is truly gold. Props and cudos for being a straight up genius.
I think it’s just her telling the story of what she(or possibly someone else she knows/knew) went through
If this series actually gets a happy ending I'll literally cry , This is something that I need to happen.
well, let’s think about how many people who went through drug addiction and mental illness and see if they had a happy ending...
I want a dramatic and shocking ending. Id be dissapointed if they dulled it down by ending with a positive conclusion
I want an end that isn’t bad or good it’s just neutral
@@thevirtualpanda7864 it seems every fictional story has a "happy" ending which is boring and in this case innacurate
@@Zean1123 that sounds extra boring
Hey look at that, he took something dark and showed us some light, instead of, y’know, taking something light and showing us the darkness within
How about we make this into a UA-cam community event,bring in powerful youtubers to help us ..like mr. beast,odd1out,etc
Well yes, but actually -no- *YES*
Ok, so here's my thought: in the blog, Mary mentions this friend whom she treated really badly but was super close to, and one of the audio recordings shows that she went looking for this friend after ditching her, right before the series started. Maybe we need to find this friend and have her go to the house, show Mary that her friend does still care about her?
Maybe the doorbell ringing was her you might be on to something
Maybe the message has to be relayed to said friend, then have said friend relay it to Mary herself before it's too late. I'm thinking if we don't, Mary ends it all herself.
And if the theory on how all of this is a view into her mental health and its deterioration, there's one way she could end this herself and I don't want that. We need this friend to help then.
Me: plays Minecraft
Matpat: the garden gets all rainy
My Minecraft world: rains
Me: Listen here you little bi-
Lol
Lmao underrated comment
@@Pizzalover21 thx XD
creepy coincidence
😂😂
Ok, this isn't even scary any more. I'm literally crying. This series is one of the most tragic things I've ever watched.
It's just a show plus it's not like this is your fault or has anything to do with you
@@frankwoods1531 its still sad, this is a hard subject for so many people
@@leahflops9425 of course I know that but I also know it won't help me to feel sad and cry about it so I control my emotions and tell myself 'why should I care?' I know it sounds heartless but I don't really care
@@frankwoods1531 some people can't pull themselves out of it. Like mary
@@frankwoods1531 let's not argue
Love how this title says “Can We Save Mary?” when she said she’s going to end it literally 8 months ago-at the time the vid was released.
I’m eating up my words now...
@@Cy-Fi oof
No it's the last 8 months of the series
It ended 2 month ago i think
@@e.t.75 Yah.
Okay idk who’s gonna see this but at 5:51 there’s a vomiting sound effect that’s pretty nasty sounding so if you have emetophobia or are just grossed it by that kinda thing, be warned
May Flowers - thank u so much!!!
i skipped to the exact sound i hate life
Thanks.
I'm normally not too grossed out by that (I've been pregnant, vomiting is a part of life sometimes) but that was a whole other level of wrong. Definitely not the sound I was expecting and could have done without ever hearing.
Thanks for the heads up man.
So, just a thought I had while listening to this. Mary drowning in her forest could be a symbol of her overdosing and surviving, because H overdoses can be akin to asphyxiation.
Matt: We need solve this quickly, it's a race against time!!!
Me: It's been half a year Matt, HALF A YEAR!
Shush
Don’t you mean over a decade ago?
@@PlayBoX-qq9kr I mean we'll probably see a new HIMM episode in another half year
sorry i forgot your comment
My guess is he was hoping something else would come out on the channel before making the second episode. But seeing as they haven't uploaded in 7 months. He got tired of waiting.
As someone who as delt with mental illness and drug use this series has made me so happy because it makes me feel like I’m not the only one who is struggling with this and it’s something that a lot of people need to be aware of
No-one struggles alone. I hope you get the help you deserve.
Hope you gets better
stay strong and hope u get better soon
Stay strong I really hope you get better 💜
I hope you will get better and I hope you will be happy again
This show is genius whoever created the show is truly aware of drug use and mental illness cudos to you
you're so basic it's not that hard to see thats what it's about.
thomas roy some people are better at figuring stuff out than others, don’t need to be rude
thomas roy some people aren't as "intelligent" as you
A show like this wouldn't have been made anywhere else than UA-cam.
thomas roy Cool, so you're superior to everyone in the comment section. That's what your statement was trying to imply, right? Then we'll all give you that round of applause you want. Have a good and fulfilling life.
I've been interested in this series for a while, but considering my own mental health issues I've been avoiding it like the plague. Don't be confused, I am getting the help I need and doing much better, but its still clearly an incredibly fragile balance of self care and medication. So thank you MatPat, for giving me a look into this fascinating series that I can safely digest without getting too attacked by my own demons. It might seem silly but this really does mean a lot to me. Seeing myself and my struggles represented in a way that accurately depicts how they feel helps me feel like I'm not crazy, just sick. Understanding this and seeing it in forms of media where my illness isn't just an unstoppable destructive force of insanity with no way out, but something that can be managed and addressed really does help. Even if I have to see it through cultural osmosis instead of being able to experience it for myself.
Yet again, another thing that I have never heard of that I will *STILL* watch because it's quality content.
MOOOOOD😂
How do you make words darker
YO I GOT THE HUNDRETH LIKE BRO YO
I watch the film theory so I still get the content with less nightmare fuel
Same
Mary calling it the “garden” is probably just symbolism. The literary archetype of garden usually represents a sort of safe haven.
eden's garden much
The realm of Elysium is portrayed as a garden. It is the neutral realm of the dead in greek mythology.
Hey, Steven universe has problems with gardens.
This series wrecked me. I was heartbroken at the end of the last episode. I really really want it to end on a better note.
Cat B Same here
And also if it doesn't end on a good note none of us will ever know if it was our fault at all like even if we find the message and send it to her we'll never know if we did something wrong of if we were supposed to do something else and that's why we got the bad ending and the remnants of the series will just sit there on the internet forever alongside this video reminding us that we might've been able to do better and we just didn't try hard enough.
Mad Mar I’m not crying you’re crying 😭
There are two episodes left
@@ouchanrrul1591 bow do you know?
I just realized that I had been turning to drugs to escape my own fears and mental illness. I only stopped now, because an injury has made me need to take medication that would react badly with the drugs. This story scares me so much, because I'm Mary Mary. At first it was every once in a while, and was literally an accident. Just a little too much, and I found myself in the garden. Then every weekend, then every day for months on end. There's no real help for my issues, but maybe I can get help for my anxieties that are caused by my issues. I don't know what else to say. Thank you.
This series is not ended yet...her “behind the scenes” tumblr says 2 more episodes are left, and matpat.....U BETTER FRIGGIN COVER THEM WHEN THEY’RE OUT
shes stated shes attempted suicide and has never been active since.... I think your wrong on this one
How Sel she posted something on may 22nd on that behind the scenes tumblr page (which can be found at whyhellomynameismary.tumblr.com), and said “You know what to do. It’s up to you now.
See you in a week ;)”
@@Mia.852 omg thank you I did not know that there was a bts
@@fandomweebsvsmemes9803 Yeah, no problem
Only one video left
3:15 really love that cinema sins reference. But for you
"Reading"
*ding*
Thank you !!! Ive been looking for another person to talk about it 😂
daniel Torres Lol, I was wondering what that was about. I didn’t even realize what it was for.
“Narration. Or Pat-tration?”
I was wondering if it's a part of an AR game. This video looks like one of Mattpat's AR videos on Game Theory.
When he said that “the first time was basically an accident” I had a moment when I realized that Shane madejs worst fear of being injected with heroin against his will isn’t completely irrational 😂😂
I see you are a men of culture as well
Oh dear
Eleanor C I cant believe I found another shaniac here very cool
I did not expect to so this 😂
Ahhhh, civilised folk I see. Hello fellow Shaniacs and Boogaras.
The veiled lady hurting Mary appears like self harm to me
Matpat: so Mary has found the garden
Me: Yes! She's esca-
Matpat: *She's on drugs*
Me: I don't follow-
Matpat: *heroin*
XD
Golden Guide for Gaming lol
pretty much
@Studio Autio 'how can feathers be heavier than steel ? :( '
@@tusrualoneanqel4755 If you have enough feathers.
MAT PAT WE NEED TO HURRY, I did some further digging and you were wrong about the darkness, the darkness is the looming thought of suicide and if we don't hurry soon Mary will blow her head off, the mirror and paper doll are the key you have to see it from depressions gate to find out
Maybe it’s kinda both
But that’s just me
@@certifiedgarbage3295 I AGREE AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA
To quote Mary Mary's last posted video from now 9 months back. the video was uploaded with the following message:
"im gonna give up. dont wanna continue. feel so bad inside and out. like im a corpse instead of a person. very very very alone. think im gonna ask her to end it. don't know how that'll go but hopefully it will end. don't know when yet. but i can't keep doing this. posting just in case someone finds it. maybe there will be people if im not here anymore."
And the fact we didn't solve this in time, and that there have been no further posts.. well.. It means...
Gosh its so hard to say it - but StarTrek's Dr. McCoy said it best so i'll quote him now:
"She's Dead Jim"
GIVE THIS UPVOTES SO MAT CAN SEE IT
I think that the fact that she appears to be living in a version of her parents house might be hinting to the idea of some kind of abuse from her parents. I think it could be verbal, saying that she isn’t good enough, which causes the existence of a monster like Beauty, but your reasoning about Regret in the previous episode makes me think that there was some kind of s**ual abuse involved with some other member of her family. I don’t know how that would play out, maybe it’s something completely different, we can’t be sure. I also think that the garden supports the idea of abuse from her family because literally getting out of the house would be a way for her to escape the hurt happening at home. It was probably when she was out of the house, avoiding the horrors in her home where she turned to drug use. The fact that she is safe from the monsters when she is in the garden could also represent how she is safe from any abuse when she isn’t in the house with her family.
Edit: grammar
I kinda agree with your theory. I mean why would her troubled brain be symbolized by her parents' house. There are definitely some deep family issues.
How did you type this much hes to dangerous go be left alive
@@@gianinaenciu207 what
Ella McNulty maybe the door she opens is her safe space in the house like a family members room
i said about the same thing but i dont think drugs have anything to do with it
10:18 *If you’re hearing this, then congrats! You made it to Night 2! Most people don’t get this far, they usually move on.. to other things... I’m not implying that they died, that’s not what I meant. Anyways-*
I appreciate the FNaF reference!
Yes lmao
A UA-cam show for people to actively help someone through depression, anxiety, addiction and mental breakdown?
This...this is unexpected and so endearing.
I hope we as viewers can help steer this story to a happy ending. To give hope to those who suffer the same as Mary.
Yes!! I agree absolutely.
This is why I wish the capital "i" had seriffs or something.
Every time I read these titles I see "HILM MARY MARY"
fonts for UA-cam when
same
Alec Dickens BRO ME TOOOO
Same
Oh good, I'm not the only one 😂
Me: "Hey I wonder if this video will get monetized."
Matapat: "The garden represents Mary's turn to drug use."
Me: "We could tell UA-cam it's Calpol or something?"
Matpat: "Heroine specifically."
Me: "Oh well, there goes that."
No
@@davtan3865 stfu
@@davtan3865 Why are you commenting this everywhere, it's just annoying
@@davtan3865 man ur everywhere
Calpol is my drug of choice tbh
As someone who struggles a lot with mental health this series fascinates me. Because it truly feels like this. Mental illness is terrifying. And even when there are hundreds reaching out, you still feel so alone. Thank you for covering this. It’s so important that people see it.
Me: *watching part 1*
Matpat: “ I have hotlines if you need them”
Me: “that wasn’t that scary”
Me: watching part 2
Matpat: “I think Mary is a heroin addict”
Me: “ok this is much scarier”
There are also hotlines in this video
Is it concerning that I can closely relate to this? Except for the heroin thing, since I’m literally only 12...
LMAOO I CANT-
@@insertusernamehere8324 Yes it is. Are you getting help or talking to people about this? Don't do drugs or self harm, please.
Me
me: *had a terrible nightmares after the first chapter*
me: *see the second one*
also me: oH yEs SuRe WhY nOt
#releatable
Same lmao
Yeah, I run up stairs in my own house at night. I can't unsee it to be honest.
Yeah..... Same. WHY DO I KEEP WACHING THESE.
See, you can't have nightmares if you don- OH GOD WHAT WAS THAT!
On UA-cam: scary events of creepy monsters at night.
In reality: a girl and her roommates having fun scaring people.
Yeah I guess that sounds right same for Roblox myths and stuff like that
Though it makes me curious as to how she is pulling it off. Got to admit it is pretty well thought out
Logan Lopez What do you mean? How do directors make horror movies?
How about we make this into a UA-cam community event,bring in powerful youtubers to help us ..like mr. beast,odd1out,etc
Amazing. This series sounds exactly like something I would never want to watch, as I also struggle with these issues and am very susceptible to psychological horror. But the amount of effort and ingenuity that went into it is amazing, and I really hope it will get the recognition it deserves. Thanks for covering it, guys, without you I'd me missing out on a lot of amazing stuff - I love your work!
“This is a race against time” *makes a video 5 months later*
Bah dum tshhh
Me: * goes off to make a sandwich *
Mat: * plays Mary's vomiting *
Me: yeah, I changed my mind, I dont want that sandwich
Was also eating, stopped after that
Feelsbad
Yeah, I was eating tacos. Kinda ruined them.
Of all the things we need to hear. I am actually one of those people that gags and feels nauseous when I see/heard vomitting .
@@connywolf Man and I was gonna eat candyyyy
I think "female MattPatt" voice was the scariest part of this episode.
How about we make this into a UA-cam community event,bring in powerful youtubers to help us ..like mr. beast,odd1out,etc
That was scary
He surely can become a successful horror movie character😂👏
@@davtan3865 stfu
@@davtan3865 You have a promising future in leading Cults.
DUUUDE I so badly want to see MatPat do a theory on Daisy Brown and Alan. I would love to see his takes! I was obsessed with it a few years ago, its really similar to HiImMaryMary!!
YES. OH MY GOD YES. FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT!!!! IT'S SUCH A GREAT SERIES FR.
A random tidbit, but the rhyme her name comes from "mary, mary, quite contrary" also mentions a garden and is about torturing women. Bit more evidence that the garden is bad for her.
It goes
Mary Mary quite contrary
How does ur garden grow
With silver bells and cockle shells
And pretty maids all in a row
It is actually about religious persecution, the English Queen Mary Tudor “ Bloody Mary” torturing and killing Protestants. The garden refers to a body count or cemetery, Silver Bells and Cockle Shells were names of torture tools.
It doesnt mean torturing women
@@kycool8684 also not true. It's about bloody Mary yes but not about religion . Its ridiculing her misvarorges and how she changed the religion and how she was unpopular. Ill explain more if you want
UrbanRose well if you look up the real meaning all you find is stuff speaking of religious persecution in England (against Catholics by Protestants mostly, I don’t think I said it was the other way around, sorry about that)
The latest video is titles “last 8 months” and was uploaded June 18th. On February 18th it will be 8 months since then. I theorize that’s when the next vid will release
Sooo. We're screwed basically?
4 days is not enough time to figure this out.
So basically we have four days before it's over.
Anna S that’s what I think!
AzureHorizon 448 probably😂
we need to hurry then
MatPat, the series is now over... did you watch the two final episodes?
They're AMAZING
Will we hear your take on what really went down?
Where do we find the final two episodes!? Idk where thet are
@@stoopid2249 they're on Mary's channel
It's been a year so I don't think so
@@50paper47 he said he will someday cover Petscop's finale so I try not to lose hope 😅
Is the last episode a scary one or her explanation on the character
I had the impression the garden was representative of suicide. What's the most common outcome of severe untreated mental health issues, after all?
8:22 She's rubbing not her ARM, but her WRIST, where self harm is most often practiced (I don't think anyone inject drugs into their wrist, unless they're running out of veins. But I'm not an expert on this)
Cutting, like a drug is a distraction from the pain. But it doesn't make things better, it only makes it worse over time. And the "regret" (I think of it as GUILT) grows because she knows it's wrong.
Also, a lot of people say the house being her parents means she was abused by them, but I think since this is a COPY of the house where _Mary's_ demons live, it's possible that it's representing her mental health being a result of genetic predisposition. Like schizophrenia, depression can also be hereditary.
I think this is supported by the ending, she yells "get out of _my_ house!". This may be a copy of her parents house, but it's also _hers._
But this doesn't explain her hair loss and teeth falling out.
@@spiritp.d5551 I never said she’s not doing drugs, just that you wouldn’t inject them into your wrist. Also, eating disorders can also make your hair fall out and ruin your teeth.
@@GippyHappy ah I see.
Her answer is the same as anyone else’s going through a similar experience.. she’s trapped because she’s fighting all these things, she’s literally her own worst enemy. To be able to leave the prison she’s made for herself she has to make peace with her demons. Accept herself flaws and all, answer the fear and hate with love and understanding and learn to use them to her advantage instead of to beat herself up with. To channel it in a healthy way, which is what I theorize she’s actually done here. I’m thinking this whole thing is something she’s made to show what she already went through to work these things out in herself. Her journey. Maybe whenever she’s feeling sad or frustrated or lonely or afraid or any of the things that used to drive her to use, she works on a video instead of doing something self destructive to keep her hands and mind busy. Maybe this is her way of trying to help others going through it and showing how she made it in an original way. If I’m totally wrong and she’s still going through it.. I’ve got the best message for anyone to hear: No matter what you’ve been told or what you believe about yourself right now, you are worth the things you want in life, you can have them if you try hard enough and never give up, and if you throw your life away, you’ll miss out on whatever tomorrow might bring. A persons entire life can change in a single phone call, a single knock at the door.. but you have to be brave enough and strong enough to stick around and answer. Pandora’s box may have released all the evils of the world but it also released the one thing that combats them all.. Hope.
Actually, pandora shut the box immediately, luckily keeping hope inside. Great message btw. Sometimes, if the problem is to much for you to handle, seek help from parents and friend rather then the internet. The more you scroll, the more you depressed. I personally have to take pills to help myself.
She could try to love her demons and accept them, if she does she could get help from the people outside
A therapist would also help
I got a message to, if you are on this planet right now and you are living a life right now, you are worth it.
Its a good theory
Maybe hugging all of the entities will help
*discussion of deep psychological issues and horror*
Me: I sleep
*sound of someone vomiting*
Me: *cries in emetophobia*
dude I am so glad I wasn't the only one. I'm literally trying to eat and i heard matpat say 'she gets sick' and the pure speed I threw down my fork and covered my ears with
@@Charlie-pz7ps Yeah I think I threw my headphones across the room the first time I watched it XD
Same, I wasn't expecting that and I feel anxious after listening to it🤯
What's emetophobia?
@@lord__pasta Google it
0:00
"Today's episode is a race against time."
*It's been five months since part one.*
_Uh-huh._
Evan Kauffman DEADASS, exactly what i thought!
Someone in the comments theorized that there are four days left, as the 8 Months Later was posted on June 18
Evan Kauffman it’s because the next vid comes out the 18th
I actually talked to "k.", the creator and star of hiimmarymary, to ask her for advice on how to make my own series that's similar in tone and style to this, and she told me to make the symbolism obvious, but to make the story and monsters unpredictable. I'm basically confirming MatPat's theory. It was such an honor to speak with her via email, and I've been planning my own series in a similar tone for years now.
How is it going?
@@Lily_of_the_valle You mean the series? If that is what you're talking about, I've had to rewrite and rewrite it. I'm working on casting people in the roles, but I need to figure out some other things about the series.
I did mean your series and thanks for the update!!
@@Lily_of_the_valle You're welcome. The current idea is to make it an anthology series where each monster represents mental health struggles and the series would be called "Harmless Horrors" since while mental health can harm you if you let it and is scary no matter what, if you know how to manage it successfully, it's more harmless than harmful (at least in my experience).
That’s really interesting!
Um... I don't quite remember what episode it was I believe it was the first one but I found it odd how she mentioned it was her parent's house.
I don't think this matters to the theory but it could help explain the root of her problems. Maybe something happened while she was there that planted the "house" inside of her
Maybe her abusive parents are at fualt
I like yis
could also be to represent her childhood. the house being the worse parts of her childhood and the garden the innocence of childhood, I know better than anyone that drugs can be an escape to try to bring back that lost childhood
I don't know, but I get feelings of things that are 95% to 100% accurate, so when I got a feeling of this being ultimately tied with trauma, specifically sexual trauma, I was very depressingly unsurprised. And if that's the case, maybe someone in her life had truly violated, even just by pressuring her into doing something or anything bordering intimate and uncomfy. Like someone she was dating who did the bad things, or maybe it was even her parents (one or the other, maybe even both), or just someone she's related to who came over to "visit" (like a sibling of a parent babysitting, or substitute it with any other relative title for a number of cases). But in any case, it could be in her house because they came to her, by gaining her trust then used it against her in the most vile and putrid way.
I mean it is possible that she simply never moved out of her parent’s house.Some people don’t leave it until they are much older.Maybe it’s just the only house she lived in
Beauty: anorexia/bulimia, or body dysmorphia
The darkness: anxiety
The shadow: PTSD
The Veiled Lady: schizophrenia, depression
The Garden Girl: memories of before her mental illness
Peaceful Mary: addiction
Maybe PTSD is from a toxic relationship? Maybe her parents abused her, so that's why shes stuck in their house?
Mary is probably starting to die, that's why everything is getting worse.
Or her parents were nice and she suffered a terrible breakup with her very toxic boyfriend.
Maybe this is a live action of 177013
Her memory was wiped if you watched the first film theory of thsi
Could also be slow death via disease if not addiction.
i keep thinking about a voice memo from her website where she talks about how “she’s gone and i f*cked up” maybe she was around when someone died..? overdose perhaps?
The fact that she wears long-sleeved clothing and checks her arms might also be an indicator of self-harm, not necessarily heroin use.
What about losing her hair and teeth?
Mulberry also is the key. she probably self harms and uses heroin.
Self harm can manifest as eating disorders that would effect hair and teeth
That’s what I was thinking as well. Although I think the heroin use is also true.
maybe it's both
Oh so when “mary” does drugs and cries about it she gets a theory, but when i do that i’m “ruining my mom’s birthday” and “need to leave” :/
Double standards smh
ok y’all “last 8 months” probably refers to what happened in between episode “gone” and last eight months. because mary took an 8 month break from uploading then. so we probably have more time then just 3 days
That's what I thought too, but everyone seems to think it's a countdown.
ua-cam.com/video/zhhp3qtwz0g/v-deo.html I don't know, but she posted a livestream!
It’s been 10 months.....
EVERYONE TODAY IS THE DAY THE CODE IS Stay out of the garden
Apparently in one of the secret messages it says talk to her LIVE in the night guys that means she may be going live on youtube in the night now we know what to say and how to tell remember
The Code Is : Stay out of the garden
Okay but didn't she lose access to the garden already? In the last clip the door wouldn't open into the garden anymore
Mel Ody maybe the demons in the house have changed the door, because they did not want her to go to the garden? Sounds pretty logical.....
@@Noradimitrijevic2706 But if the demons represent mental illness, they'd want to do anything and everything possible to keep her trapped under their control. Even if the garden was harmful to her, it made her feel better, which would go against what the demons wanted. They want her to suffer.
@@Noradimitrijevic2706 My point is that if the "demons" keep her out of the garden then there's no need to tell her to stay out of the garden since she already has no access. Sounds pretty logical.
Our chance is gone, and she already did a livestream.
Me: Wants to solve mystery
Also me: Just not smart enough to
Ditto
Same
I'm sure if you try you'll find yourself much more competent than you make yourself sound.
Same
Or Me: just too scared to
It worked. We get through. She's happy. She's finding help
UA-cam Notification: Can we SAVE Mary?
Me: *Has a heart attack* YES YES YES YES
Phillipe young I see, another man of culture
Ohhhhh shheeeettt
I hate that I don't understand this
What if the message is answer the door
good point
She has tried to answer the door. She screams as and cries for them to help her out, and she litterally gets as high pitched squealing doorbell in response.
maybe she has to let them in in here mind
I Agree with you
Drugs,cults,and more on game/film theory! Totally not going to get flagged.
*'A mystery that needs to be solved'*
**Opens popcorn**
This is gonna be *good*
I’ve personally found these videos to be really helpful bc it’s helps me put a “face” to things and to realize deep down “this is not normal, this is just a thing and I don’t need to listen to it”
It’s different for everyone but I’m thankful that it could help me and maybe some others
I love when you show us new channels to check out! These channels are why I started watching UA-cam
Me: "oh theres a vomiting sound, cant be that bad"
*hears sound*
Me: "ah..."
Edit: it's a really gross noise and its sounds very realistic. Idk if you'll see it but skip to 5:53 if you dont wanna hear it.
As someone who's vomited before, it sounds more like a burp with water hitting the ground.
Hippy Inu thank you for this, literaly any time I hear a vomit noise I go into a huge meltdown. So this was very helpful
That sound mostly like a pass out or someone who is choking and now they tried to burp it out
Thank you for the skip
Of course that's the one part of audio from the series that he decides to include.
I’m so happy this is finally up! I loved part one!
its raw, its unfiltered ITS UNFICTION fictional stories presenting themselves as reality, im so glad you covered this brilliant project
From her Tumblr - "Two episodes left my friends, the series is not over yet"
Amy Mitman how reliable is this?
Issac Newton it’s the creators tumblr. @whyhellomynameismary ! she posts behind the scene footage + episode progress. next episode is almost halfway done, but the current runtime for it is 24 minutes, so it’ll be long. I encourage you to check it out! :)
@@fia7763 if i could ask,, what is it like behins the scenes??
man, i wish she wouldn't have revealed the secrets
Rosemoes2003 they are out
I know I'm really late to this, but I found something important. Another message written in the source code. Under the picture of the hand that Mary traced.
"So we failed. It's ok. I did too. I'll have to think on what we can try to do next to help her. This is harder than I thought. She just keeps pushing us out. We have to get her to figure it out. No instructions for now, but you all know how to recognize my calling card. They're getting stronger and it's making me weaker again. I'm scared for her and I hope you are too. But we can do this, we need to.
In other news, it's funny she would choose to draw a picture of that one. I can't really go into details, as I barely understand that one myself. I know it's more powerful, possibly the most, but I'm still not entirely certain of its intentions. --->"
It's a possibility that there is a sixth entity. The strongest out of all of them. That has been represented by the squiggly lines in the palm of the hand that Mary traced.
Here's the link: hiimmarymaryblog.blogspot.com/
isnt the drawing of the darkness? from when she caught it with her hand?
𝙔'𝘼𝙇𝙇 𝙉𝙀𝙀𝘿 𝙏𝙊 𝙇𝙄𝙆𝙀 𝙏𝙃𝙄𝙎 𝙎𝙊 𝙈𝘼𝙏𝙊𝘼𝙏 𝘾𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙀𝙀 𝙏𝙃𝙄𝙎-
Having seen the new video - Congratulations! You were right!
Lin Wong Wait actually...?
@@linwong1494 wait so there is a sixth entity
“Today’s theory is a race against time”
Yes.......and it took 5 months
I have a feeling that this problems may have hinted at how they started in the beginning. Such as her stating that she in in her parents house means possibly her parents are what caused these problems to start, ANND WORSEN to the end.
Mabye the message is
We love you
She needs to know she is loved and that drugs aren't the way but that love is
i was thinking that but i feel like its too obvious
69 likes nice
The MaryMary series is finished, while you're waiting for Matpat to release his video on the ending, the channel Night Mind did a very good video on it :>
“Long awaited part 2”
*laughs in Dr Who theory*
Me:laughs in fnaf theory
He already did that didn't he?
Me, waiting for Mass Effect Indoctrination part 2.
Pyrocynical fans waiting for petscop 2
pov: this video was actually good so you came back
Now we just need the PetScop conclusion over on Game Theory and I’ll be satisfied
Intro: this is a race against time
Me: y wait till febuary
\(^0^)/ Hooray Lord Helix, you have came back to us
@@davtan3865 Dude. Stop spamming.
Mat: This is one of the most terrifying things on UA-cam.
Me having big brain: *watching this while home alone*
Isabelle Luna I’m doing that too😂 we’re very smart
I made that mistake. At night. I got freaked out by my own coat rack in the dark.
I watched it home alone at night
Very good decision for someone paranoid as f*ck
Im already a ghost so for me its normal
At 2 am/middle of the night
I’m here to share a trick for people with any type of anxiety. I want you to imagine you’re on a cloud. Now, imagine the landscape. Make it as peaceful as you want it. Now, imagine the sounds. Now, imagine you’re sinking into your cloud. The sounds disappear and you’re wrapped in warmth and softness. Now, the cloud disappears.
Here's a film theory: Frozone, in the scene where he's mistaken for a bank robber, freezes a bullet in midair and completely stops it's movement. I mean, it's obvious that he had to have reacted in a split second to pull that off and Death Battle has helped me learn about how cold things would need to pull off such a feat but, what kind of implications would that have on the environment? Is frozone the deadliest superhero in the movie?
that scene has such racist undertones it's crazy
@@Farfalla17 why do you think that?
@@jov4369
"I just wanted some water."
Just kidding I found it funny.
Mcdang
@@jov4369 police brutality
I literally just rewatched the part 1 yesterday. Pretty spooky that part 2 came out today🤔
Creepy, I just watched part 1 because I hit the i. In the beginning of the video
NEVERMIND Y'ALLLL She fought back!!! She is ok she left the house!! Thank you @Aamina @Urbanrose and @Kate Clouse for bringing it to my attention!!
Old News: to anyone watching this vedio. i'm sorry but it was too late. she had a live stream where people were able to tell her the message "don't go to the garden" in the end she had a poll and 54% said garden. she left. it was too late for us to save her. this most likely means she overdosed. it was too much to handle.
I dont even know this girl but jesus I have tears in my eyes
@@sunflowerbee7998 It is a very sad ending to the story but I do wonder how the creator is doing now. I wonder what she will make next.
As of May 19, the HIMM BTS tumblr "neither confirmed nor denied" the possibility for another chance to save her/ interact with her, so we gotta stay hopeful
Lies - two more episodes.
Lies: The creator of Mary Mary said on twitter that two more episodes are left, the next around halfway done, and will have a runtime of around 24 minutes when complete.
I haven't seen the actual channel but I'm happy that Mary is okay. However, I will say that I have recently come out from depression myself and I something have thoughts if self harm or worse and sometimes shadowy figures flash before my eyes. I'm doing much better now but that doesn't mean my demons are gone. I still struggle sometimes but I'm dealing with it.
Thank you to whoever read this and thank you Matthew for covering something so serious and something I've dealt with myself. Without drug use though.
Next week he said,
Literally 6 months later
I think i dodged a bullet because part 1 was in my watch later list so i didn't wait long for this part two lol. Couldn't imagine waiting 6months. He was probably trying to find the hidden message to tell us to help her. But didn't get there.
@@raukuracave4714 been waiting 2 years for the mass effect indoctrination theory part 2
I watched part 1 last night and I’m pretending that I affected the fact that this episode exists now even though I can basically guarantee that is not what happened
@@oakley6889 How about Doctor Who Part 3?
@@river_the_nb XD, I sure he produced and released this video in 12 hours just because you watched it
There is a tumbir page called "iamlookingformary" and it seems like someone else had this profile taken away from them .... it the blog was made three day after { last 8 months} video that was last uploaded on youtube
the very first comment was " LEAVE" im just looking at the rest of the comments
@@davtan3865 nah dont worry, this is a show. Its just a game, noones really getting hurt. This is fiction that feels real and we just want a nice ending to that game
It's a gamejacker. An account that doesn't know the whole plot of the ARGs.
what does "u wzjx xek wau wgzd kfqm" mean?
another thing this iamlookingformary has a twitter with the same name and has private messaged people it seems to be the moralaty or goodness of mary the part that has hidden mesages in the source code but it could indeed just be a gamejacker
@@Blindtea_01 The behind the scenes of HIMM said that the only official HIMM things are the youtube channel, the twitter account and the blog.
I won’t lie I laughed when the fnaf “hello hello” came
Same
me to kinda fnaf is literally in his brain now
Fnaf?
Corban Patrick five nights at freddys if you like horror and lure go take a look at gametheory one of his other channels it’s most know for fnaf
"OmG cAlL pOlIcE"
-my dumba** a year ago