SnowPiercer (2013) MOVIE REACTION! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Hello and Welcome back to Cinema Rules! we are getting very much into our Sci-Fi playlist and today we are excited to see some more work from Bong Joon Ho (Parasite Director). We've heard a lot of great things about Snowpiercer, lets hope it lives up to the hype
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This movie is so underrated when it came out. After parasyte, I'm glad people are looking more at bong-joon ho work and this film started getting recognition. I didn't know this was based on a French sci fi graphic novel.
My favorite part about this movie is the “Steampunk” feet it has to it. I really wish we had more steampunk movies to watch. We have Cyberpunk movies but steampunk never gets its respect
This movie wasn't underrated at all a bunch of people loved it. Was the movie everybody said people had to see. Why are people rewriting history like this?
I agree..................... But did they HAVE TO cast Ed Harris for the big reveal at the end???? lmao
Literally ANY other actor would have been better.............
@@YodatheHobbit Calm your tits, nobody is "rewriting history". It´s just commonly known, that not that many people know about this movie. Just because EVERYONE who saw this movie said "Oh, you MUST SEE this one!", doesn´t automatically mean, that a lot of people DID see it eventually! Critically acclaimed doesn´t always mean popular and vice versa......
parasyte is the anime
Yikes!! The reaction was so fun to watch you guys.
Fun (not really) fact:
Apparently, in the scene where they look into the machine and see the roaches being ground up into food, they weren't originally supposed to be roaches. It was originally supposed to be the feces of the rich. The people at the back of the train were supposed to be literally fed rich people's shit. But they were told they had to change it to something a little less revolting for audiences, so they switched to roaches. You can actually see if you look closely and pause that the stuff in the fact looks kind of like shit and they just added some digitized roaches on top to cover it up in post.
You think that's Sci fi ? ....what do you think is being planned for humanity right now? Yes it does include eating shit and drinking piss...just look what Bill gates said about this.
That makes so much more sense. I was thinking “why is he so horrified about bugs when he’s literally said he knows what babies taste like?”
🤮🤮🤮
That makes so much more sense in the context of the scene. I remember thinking why are they so freaked I'd rather eat bugs than humans
that makes no sense tho, like shit has very low nutritious value since ... you know ... the whole point in digestion is taking everything good out of the food 😅
This movie was an unexpected joy.
Tilda Swinton is good in everything.
Yeah she's brilliant. Imo she's the best along with Catt Blanchett and Toni Collette. But Swinton is one of my favorites
This movie is incredible. This is Chris Evans’s best performance to date in my opinion, the monologue towards the end about how he knows what people taste like is unforgettable.👍
@Lion Hunter I agree, Sunshine is a criminally underrated film…..love Danny Boyle.
Definitely his best role
I love this movie, the monologue from Chris Evan's during that one scene broke me😭
I never realised that people didn't necessarily love the ending, I think it's perfect (and actually more radically hopeful than a traditional happy ending) ; Curtis refusing to perpetuate the system and sacrificing his life to give an actual chance to the future generation was the right choice.
Perfect ending
I love but hate the ending at the same time. Like I love Curtis sacrificing himself it’s just they’re like “wow life can live out here now” but the only humans left is a 17 year old girl and like a 5 year old
I bought this recently to watch it for a 2nd time, love it 9/10
Also, the reveal of why Chris Evans character feels he's not worthy to lead his people, hearing his history on the train made my jaw hit the floor... Dark, HEAVY and heart breaking stuff 😲😢
I was the only one my friends (all of whom I dragged to the theater to see this with me) who loved the ending. You can't overthrow an entrenched system from inside it; you have to go outside of it to look for solutions. So blowing up the train just felt right to me. My favorite analysis of the film looks at it from an economics perspective - Wisecrack's "SNOWPIERCER: Can We Build a Better World?" ua-cam.com/video/2ydHL5wkmJo/v-deo.html
"How did she survive that?" well if you look at the scene before the explosion, both nam-goong and curtis hugged the girl and the child front and back as if to shield them.
I literally refer to this movie as "That movie where Captain America eats babies." It really confuses people.
i think your ratings are definitely fair! it's an interesting film because i think it's not the BEST dystopian story and it's a bit heavy-handed, yet somehow the imagery and ideas REALLY stick with me and horrify me more than other films. like i wouldn't give this film a 10/10, maybe an 8, but it's still just so iconic to me for its uniqueness
Saying an allegory is heavyhanded is redundant lol. It's not a valid criticism. It would be like saying "wow they chose the tortoise to represent slow and steady and the hare to represent quickness? Bit heavyhanded."
I agree this movie is very unique and thats what I like about it.
You should check out more of Bong-Joon Ho's other works! The Host and Memories of Murder are great picks!
The Hossssst, yes!
Memories of Murder is a classic.
@Miles Doyle you are weird as hell
Dont know what the directors view of the ending might be but for me its like.. sometimes it might just be best to try out something drastic and different, towards the unknown with a sliver of hope, rather than continue with the same old shit thats clearly not working well. Its a risk, last of humanity will likely just die with it in the context of the story but was their existence humane in the first place? Life adapts and goes on even without humans.
Dunno if I missed it but the korean guy with the daughter is the dad from Parasite. That actor and the daughter are also in Bong's monster movie The Host.
Oh really!? Surprised I didn’t recognise him, he was brilliant in parasite
I remember renting this when it came out and recieving this incredibly deep sadness and confusion, but also a vague "that sounds about right for us as a species" there, too. One or two misguided assholes can make everything miserable for a lot of people. Thanks for covering and talking about it. It's nice to get some latent validation to what I felt back then. This one just makes me so depressed.
@nateman10 you had doubts about a reply?
Watch district 9, it's a great Sci fi movie.
You’re in luck, our reaction to district 9 is coming soon
I love Tilda Swinton's performance in this film.
She's such a great actress!
If you didnt seen Parasite pls react to it . I could have sworn you watcht parasite on your channel . Mandela effect ?
Also nice : Memories of Murder ;The Host ;Mother
Nice reaction as always .
One of the best sci-fi movies in the last twenty years. Creating a contained and fully fleshed out world on a train is inspired. It stands up to a rewatch. As always: finish Carpenter's Apocalypse Trilogy: 2) Prince of Darkness and 3) In the Mouth of Madness.
Prince of Darkness is criminally overlooked.
It's not recent, but another great sci-fi film that also stars Ed Harris is The Abyss. It's a long movie but it's a fun 80s James Cameron film.
This is one of my favorite films! I recently rewatched it on new years with my mom, because it is a new years movie after all.
You should look into the Willy Wonka theories about this movie, they're quite interesting whether you believe them or not.
That one video is sooo good, I'm sold on the theory
Love this film, glad you've watched it.
"That's what they've been eating!"
Just remember that scene the next time you see an article about how eating insects this going to be the next big thing/way to tackle climate change.
PS - Yes, the polar bear at the end would be looking for a way to get to them & eat them. So it's really not a happy ending.
This is one of my favorite movies of all time!
Just watched your Arrival reaction and when I clicked back on your channel just now I see another masterpiece! What an awesome treat! Love your discussions and reactions and cant wait to check out more on your channel.
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Sorry not really relevant to this video, but will you guys be reacting to the rest of the James Bond films? Seems like you've given up on them
The part that most people miss in this film is that most of the people in the tail of a train were never suppose to be there. They stormed the train, the rich helped finance the train being made when they saw that the chemical would destroy the world, they prepared for when the “Global warming nuts” killed everyone. So, when they forced their way on there was not food for them. They had to come up with a way to let them survive, so they grew a food source for the poor to eat. But not till the numbers were low enough to sustain them, which is why all the time passed at the start with no food or water.
@Miles Doyle TLDR
Governments should always be afraid of the citizenry...
If you guys haven't seen them, you should definitely see "Soylent Green" and "THX 1138."
Hello Cinema Rules,
It became a TV series which is equally just as excellent. I suggest you watch it.
It just started the new season😀
This movie is truly amazing imo. The deeper you dive into the messages and meaning/metaphors etc of alot of this movie is fascinating. I actually like that it's a dark movie, more realistic in a way. Every movie doesn't need the cliche happy ending/happy tones throughout to be good, it makes you feel different emotions. I wish there was more movies like this just for something different. It's a shame harvey weinstein really ruined the release of this movie but i'm so glad people are finally seeing it after the success of Parasite. Great director
This movie was a wonderful satire of class inequality. Technically, if the train had adopted a more equitable distribution of resources, the people would have lived better. True, the First Class would have become less, but the Tail Section would have become more. A balance would have been achieved.
What the First Class in any society doesn't understand is that they can only enjoy their elevated status for only so long before the oppressed class revolts. This has happened in every civilization since the dawn of time.
@Reactance I don't think ever seen someone not get anything they are talking about so spectacularly. It's genuinely impressive.
I'm still waiting for you guys to discover the sci-fi horror greats IN THE MOUTH OF MADNESS (1994) by John Carpenter and Larry Cohen's 1976 GOD TOLD ME TO. Mind-bendingly great!
Bong Joon Ho is one of favourite filmmakers working today. Snowpiercer was the first of his films I saw and I have since seen Okja and Memories of Murder, both really brilliant, really dark and really funny.
I love this film, the comic is very interesting too and you should definitely watch the series. Dystopian worlds are my favourite genre of entertainment & this world is just so different from the usual stories.
I think the world building and story is phenomenal. Although I don’t necessarily love the ending, I get why it ended that way and I love the movie as a whole.
Sounds like you have the same opinion as us :)
@@CinemaRules 100%
You should watch Avalon(Poland/Japan) & Children of Men
When I first saw this film, I already had a strong aversion to cockroaches. This movie didn't really help me to shake off those feelings.
If there's a polar bear, it means life can survive :)
It's not supposed to leave you satisfied, it's supposed to make you think. It's supposed to make you think about society. Watch Parasite, too. It's an allegory. It's a critique of humanity. It's thought provoking.
Thanks, Tom! Thanks, Shaun! 🚄+❄=💥
It’s a fun, entertaining and unsubtle critique of capitalism
The communist director intended it to be an unsubtle critique of capitalism, but inevitably ended up criticizing his own horrible ideology ^^
Any other delusions you’d like to share with the class?
@@MM-hc1cq As a former resident of Soviet occupied Romania, I can tell you a lot of fun stories about the ideology that your university professors are so in love with.
I went to university in the former Soviet Union and my professors at Leonid Brezhnev community college taught us to love capitalism by performing sex acts with life size blowup dolls of Reagan and Thatcher.
@@MM-hc1cq And here I thought they were only sucking off the ghosts of folks like Marx, Foucoult or Derrida - guess you can always learn something new.
the scariest part about this movie is that we're living in this exact society, we just don't see or think about the back end of the train because we're all in the front half.
Hi! You probably won't see this but I massively recommend that you check out the tv show Snowpiercer, its incredibly well dont and hardly anyone has given their thoughts on it.
At the very least I hope you check it out in your spare time sometime 😊👍
I love his movie The Host.It’s one of the best monster movies I have ever seen.There’s even a bit of humor here and there so things don’t get oppressively depressing.
It’s a rare occasion where I think a movie could have benefitted from a few more characters surviving, or at least lasting a bit longer. Jamie Bell’s character needed to die, that choice needed to happen but I think it could have happened a bit later and maybe have someone like Octavia Spencer’s character last till the end. Losing them all in that sauna scene was like you said deflating.
Also my ONE gripe is that we never see a sleeping cabin, we see saunas, jacuzzis, nightclubs, drug dens but never once where the rich people sleep. I get we can’t see EVERY cabin but we know they went through it. I just think if your going to try and make this train idea “realistic” you can’t miss that, even if it’s just a glimpse.
Guys, friendly Sci-Fi Drama recommendation: PREDESTINATION !! You can thank me later! :-)
btw i would give SP a 7/10 i don't think it's anything special per say
I think the whole fish blood thing wasn't so that they get infected with anything i think its like a "I've got blood on this now i HAVE to get a kill" kinda deal. great reaction though lads 👍🏻
Now watch the "Snowpiercer is a sequel to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" and be blown away.
Wait this is like the netflix show but came earlier? I never heard of this movie. Curious to see it
Such an epic film.
Nobody saw this movie when it came out like nobodyyyyyy.
I like this movie. I just watched it. It was interesting
A not very subtle metaphor of how our world works XD
Chris Evans rocked in this movie so well.
If you had asked me what I thought of the film half a decade ago when I first watched it, I'd have given it a similar rating you guys gave it because the dialogue was super choppy and the plotholes were plenty, but if you had asked me now in 2023, I'd give it a 10/10 simply due to the standards of films declining over the past couple of years. I mean people these days thought Peacemaker was a good show despite its atrocious dialogue, acting, and story. Also, no, the TV show for Snowpiercer is really bad. They took the mystery and the consistency of the film and tossed it out the window and supplemented it with extremely boring scenes, characters, and dialogue.
I didn't see anyone else mention it, but I didn't go through all the comments. You guys should check out the youtube video "Why SNOWPIERCER is a sequel to WILLY WONKA and the CHOCOLATE FACTORY." It's seems crazy, but the more you watch his video the more it seems plausible haha. Love the channel guys.
The whole movie is made up of metaphors. The train means the social hierarchy, and the engine may be the system itself that is the origin of this structure or the power to maintain this structure, like capitalism or whatever...
Everyone is saying "the engine(the system) is eternal! you can't survive without the it." Can't we survive if we leave the engine? The polar bear survived. So wouldn't we be able to do it, too?
Is it a revolution that only people's positions change in the existing structure?
Perhaps there are other options...such as going out of the train? whatever it means...
I first saw this movie close to when it came out and have only seen it a few times since but it definitely has stuck in my mind. I would actually consider it one of my favorites even though it does have flaws. Will keep you thinking long after watching
Since you're on a sci-fi kick, you should absolutely watch the World of Tomorrow Trilogy: three animated short films that make up one of the most viscerally magnificent sci-fi stories ever told. According to Wikipedia, the film has won 42 awards as of 2016. It's magniflorious!
I hope this doesn't turn you off from his previous films. Definitely agree that there's some clunkiness in the korean to english adaptation. Felt that with Okja as well.
His 3 films in the 2000's are much better than his 3 in the 2010's. Those 3 are better than Parasite imo.
Watching this movie makes me realize: "Holy CRAP, new episode of Snow piercer is on tonight!" Lol!
Loooooove this film!
Lab grown meat is now very popular if you like Beyond Meats and similar brands…it’s not from cockroaches but close
beyond meat is derived from plants. they don't really have any lab grown meat on the market yet. you can get it but its limited, as it's still in development stages. they need to be able to mass produce it to get the price down before you start to see it in stores.
Love this film. Such a cool concept. The TV show wasn't great.
"My friend, you suffer from the misplaced optimism of the doomed." That's a hell of a line.
That was depressing
Only saw this once before this. Must have blacked out the cannibalism aspects… 🤯 I was just as shocked as you guys were. It started out so good too! I almost ran out and recommended my roomies and I watch it immediately. Nvm… 🙊🥴
Yayyyy!!!
I think I t’s closer to The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas than Wily Wonka. It’s a story where…basically people live in this utopian society that can only function due to the constant pain and misery of a child
my names curtis :)
Memories of Murder and Zodiac are the two ultimate crime films you should react to.
The Day After Tomorrow is a good example of a nature based apocalypse. And I find those more engaging than man made apocalypse because it's a far more unpredictable circumstance and it really is out of your hands. Something man made, at least you can follow the steps to fixing something but you really can't do that with nature.
Terrible film
"Good"? Day After Tomorrow has zero value. Not interesting, not smart, and not well-made or memorable in any way other than what it fails at.
@@molehansman247 Yeah, that movie is shit.
"Babies taste best", best line in the movie!
When the fanatic teacher started singing on that rotating piano, I burst out laughing.
If you get a chance, look up a video that puts forth the theory that this is a sequel to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. It sounds crazy, but the arguments are surprisingly convincing. :)
Blew me away when I watched it. I think the problem (which you guys had) was the lack of a positive payoff after so much suffering. Nooo the hero died. But he died for a good reason. It's a similar ending to Train to Busan, but a whole lot bleaker.
I felt dismay that so much of the train was completely destroyed coupled with the implication that only two people survived. I'd give them 5 days before they die, but who knows.
I’m a big fan of Steampunk and I loved the steampunk elements in this movie. I really wish we had more Steampunk action movies. We get cyberpunk with movies like The Matrix, Bladerunner, Elysium but man could we use more Steampunk films.
Does anyone know of any good steampunk films? Any with action?
I think Mad Max: Fury Road is steam punk(?)
Mortal Engines is steampunk I believe. It's not that great but I did enjoy moments of it and the designs of the giant moving countries.
Wild West? Not that good, but steampunk vibes and action.
Babies taste best
You do know this is a Sequel to the 1960's version of Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory right?.....There's a video explaining this...After watching this movie I believe it is a Sequel!
Your review is insulating, as its definitely a 9-10 rating id say 9.9 for sheerly that the only soar spot is cgi bug grinder, they look very fake, so it has room to improve and its easily patchable in post.
Why 9.9 out of 10? Well its got some of the strongest world building ive seen, every question is answered… this happens very little in a film. Shooting through the trains windows, you see that the guards immediately start sealing the bullet holes, after the guy, so many little things, that just make this film great. The ending were the rave people come in to fight, its because its the cronol adicts that they just stole from, finally getting ip from their stupor, and making good on their threats.
The movie wizzes by is perfectly cut, and is a break neck pace beginning to end.
The messaging that in the extreme, it takes extreme measures, that this train may be this perfect bunker, but it was ment for x-number of passengers, and cant sustain more, its a dark tale.
Check out the UA-cam video that suggests that SNOWPIERCER is a direct sequel to 1971’s WILLIE WONKA AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY. The video actually makes some surprisingly good points in favor of this CRAZY IDEA.
Actually the best video about Snowpiercer on UA-cam is "Snowpiercer-Left or Right?" by the channel Every Frame a Painting. In fact, all of Every Frame a Painting is good.
Also I think the dystopia guess is right. The film is a critique of capitalism, just like basically all of Bong's other films.
That reminds me, watch all of Bong's other films! Okja, Parasite, Memories of Murder, The Host, Mother, watch all of them!
I feel like a lot of the components of this film would’ve been more successful if it was Bong’s vision fully realized. unfortunately parts of it were scrubbed by the production company (might’ve been Weinstein? I’m not sure). I even heard Bong had to fight to keep that fish gutting scene in by lying and saying that it was an homage to his father who was a fisherman lol
Consider watching this video about the similarly between Snowpiercer and Willly Wonka, it's uncanny. There is a follow up video also. ua-cam.com/video/jEX52h1TvuA/v-deo.html.
Coolest thing is the fact that the film is rumored to be the sequel to charlie and the chocalate factory
Forget the Snowpiercer show, proceed directly to MEMORIES OF MURDER, one of the all-time great serial killer police procedurals.
The movie is based on the real Malthusian theory of over population and food production.
Another fun Frozen post-Apocalyptic movie, is called “The Colony “, with Lawrence Fishburne.
Check out the SP series, guys, it's really good and really fleshes out the society, world, and characters.
Yo, I think you guys "get" it - for just the off the cuff thoughts immediately after the first viewing, you guys did great! I've noticed something after watching a few vids on your channel though that I think might be unnoticed by some who will criticize your scores: I think you guys give generally low scores to things across the board - in other words, you don't really grade on a curve and appear to reserve really high scores for like the best of the absolute best in film. I and many others (not everyone, obviously) don't really take this approach. I would give this film a score somewhere in the 9's because well, I legitimately think it quite easily sits in the 99th percentile of all films in terms of objective quality. I am just assuming you guys reserve your "9 and ups" for a very very select few films that make a HUGE impression on you, which is not necessarily wrong - just a different way of grading!
Anyway, glad you liked the film. There's lots of cool youtube video essays about it that dive into the themes and stuff. Cheers :)
I'll just leave this here for anyone who isn't already in the know...
ua-cam.com/video/jEX52h1TvuA/v-deo.html
Shhh.
You wanted a post-apocalyptic (and it is not dystopian, well the train it is, not the world) to have an hopeful ending? Y'all need to watch ''The Road'', talkin' 'bout dark and depressing....
17:25 “I know babies taste best!” Endorsed by captain America.
Imagine Chris agent back then telling ppl about Chris big role as captain America. Then they look up his film history, brings up snowpiercer and scenes like that and his agent just sweating there trying to keep Chris rep good.
Honestly I don't think Yona & Timmy are the only survivors of the train crash. Considering how condensed the back of the train was, like a shield, I think some people may have survived. I think a lot of people in the middle of the train died due to how spacious the cars were.
This leads in to why you boys need to hit some 70’s dystopian stuff, like Logan’s Run and A Boy and His Dog.
That Willy Wonka connection UA-cam Theory Video's a great watch, you should watch it.
The film is also a commentary on our world today. We live in nations all over the world that claim civilization and enlightenment while buying products made with what amounts to human slave labor in poorer nations just to save a few dollars. We buy and buy and buy while a huge number of people live in disease ridden poverty, forced to work for Penny's to get us the newest iPhone. The dystopian setting isn't a sci Fi future; it's human nature. The few at the top are burning the world and everyone under them for a few years more wealth and luxury.
You can't compare your rating with IMDB, their range of good ratings is from about 6 to 8.5 due to the averaging of user scores run through whatever formula they use... there are no movies rated in the 9's. The point of the ending is that trying to continue in this insane class system we live is bad and it's better to blow it up and start over. The optimism is that even though humanity might destroy the world, nature will eventually fix it and life will continue and the children will hopefully make a new order to live under.
If you liked it I would recommend the series. It's a prequel of course, showing more about the origin story of the SnowPiercer and the evolution of what transpires to get them to this point. It's actually pretty good.